Man in the shadows Wrote:
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> Hyper-partisan idiot in the spot Wrote:
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> > Actual history shows that he was the one who
> began
> > the withdrawals very shortly after entering
> > office, along with 'Vietnamization,' ended the
> > draft, changed strategy, and backed us out
> honor
> > or not. By the time Ford was there it was a
> long
> > done deal.
>
> Your actual posts show that you don't know very
> much about actual history. Vietnam was a long arc
> and your focus is very short and shallow.
Here's the arc again:
>
> > As I said versus the warmongering Dem
> establishment.
>
> Party affiliation doesn't always mean so much, you
> know. The racists all used to be Democrats, and
> now they are all Republicans. But they have
> always been racists. It was the left who raised
> the alarms against the racists, as well as against
> the warmongers of every party. Some more actual
> history for you to learn about there.
>
It does when we're talking about warmongering Democrats. And there are plenty of racist Democrats now. Your dumb drone talking points don't change the reality of either.
> > Actually I was one of them and not a fan of
> Nixon.
> > There's more than enough things that you can
> blame
> > on him. But the Vietnam war isn't one of them.
>
> Your Shylock impersonation is a failure. Just as
> bad as Brian's. Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, and
> Nixon all played a role in Vietnam. For that
> matter, so did Harry Truman. But like George W
> Bush, Nixon cannot escape responsibility for the
> things he was actually responsible for, and one of
> those things was deliberately expanding and
> prolonging the war, resulting in much unnecessary
> death and destruction. If there were a Hell,
> there would be every reason to believe that Nixon
> would be rotting in it today as the result. Might
> have been other indictments involved as well of
> course.
Trying to stretch some related role for moral equivalence just doesn't work in this case. Sorry. Vietnam was Kennedy and Johnson's baby. That Nixon had to take over their Iraq/Afghanistan doesn't make it his any more than you'd assign the latter to Obama. Yeah, yeah, I know... but that's different. lol