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Posted by:
chuckhoffmann
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Date: January 29, 2014 05:06PM
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2014 05:28PM by chuckhoffmann.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2014 05:28PM by chuckhoffmann.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
Priapus
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Date: January 29, 2014 05:09PM
So I guess those fuckers will do the daily weather/crime/bs cut and paste here every stinking day.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
itt
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Date: January 29, 2014 05:16PM
Fairfax City Patch is gone too. Doesn't matter. Nobody was reading it anyway.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
itt
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Date: January 29, 2014 05:24PM
itt Wrote:
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> Fairfax City Patch is gone too. Doesn't matter.
> Nobody was reading it anyway.
Forgot to mention, I read this on Facebook but there's no mention on the website.
Nobody reads that one either.
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> Fairfax City Patch is gone too. Doesn't matter.
> Nobody was reading it anyway.
Forgot to mention, I read this on Facebook but there's no mention on the website.
Nobody reads that one either.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
Patched
()
Date: January 29, 2014 05:25PM
AOL sold off all of the Patch papers earlier this month and they're laying a bunch of people off.
"Just two weeks ago, AOL announced that it was handing over the majority stake in Patch, its troubled local news enterprise, to Hale Global, an investment company that specializes in turning around troubled companies through technological innovation. Hale said at the time its intention was to keep operating all of Patch’s 900 sites and that no staffing decision had been made.
On Wednesday morning, the decision became evident when hundreds of Patch employees were laid off in a reorganization.
Neither Hale Global nor AOL would comment on the layoffs."
"Just two weeks ago, AOL announced that it was handing over the majority stake in Patch, its troubled local news enterprise, to Hale Global, an investment company that specializes in turning around troubled companies through technological innovation. Hale said at the time its intention was to keep operating all of Patch’s 900 sites and that no staffing decision had been made.
On Wednesday morning, the decision became evident when hundreds of Patch employees were laid off in a reorganization.
Neither Hale Global nor AOL would comment on the layoffs."
Every Patch Circling the Drain
Posted by:
Not Steve Case
()
Date: January 30, 2014 02:31AM
Stopped reading the Patch garbage a year ago.
A bunch of 20 something journalism school grads who were to lazy and unconnected to the community to anything more than cut and paste press releases from local agencies.
A waste of an idea.
A bunch of 20 something journalism school grads who were to lazy and unconnected to the community to anything more than cut and paste press releases from local agencies.
A waste of an idea.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
Comrade Fidel
()
Date: January 30, 2014 04:38AM
Fools. The market for leftwing propaganda was already oversaturated.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
Laughing Now
()
Date: January 30, 2014 04:51AM
So glad the libturds at Patch will have to get real jobs. Who knows, maybe they'll finally get a dose of reality and snap out of their trance-like Obama worship!
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
EU
()
Date: January 30, 2014 06:24AM
Laughing Now Wrote:
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> So glad the libturds at Patch will have to get
> real jobs. Who knows, maybe they'll finally get a
> dose of reality and snap out of their trance-like
> Obama worship!
The only "real" jobs they could get are already filled by illegals.
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> So glad the libturds at Patch will have to get
> real jobs. Who knows, maybe they'll finally get a
> dose of reality and snap out of their trance-like
> Obama worship!
The only "real" jobs they could get are already filled by illegals.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
Aye Aye Patchy
()
Date: January 30, 2014 09:47AM
Expect a flood of new posts to FFXU from new sources as Patchies discover the value of information on this website. I know its recently been helpful in identifying super hot EMTs and school closing schedules.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
ozone
()
Date: January 30, 2014 09:59AM
Aye Aye Patchy Wrote:
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> Expect a flood of new posts to FFXU from new
> sources as Patchies discover the value of
> information on this website. I know its recently
> been helpful in identifying super hot EMTs and
> school closing schedules.
Flood of Patchies? You gotta be kidding. I'll bet there weren't more than a dozen people who even bothered to read Patch. Look back at some of their articles and count how many reader comments and they were on FFU too. No big "flood".
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> Expect a flood of new posts to FFXU from new
> sources as Patchies discover the value of
> information on this website. I know its recently
> been helpful in identifying super hot EMTs and
> school closing schedules.
Flood of Patchies? You gotta be kidding. I'll bet there weren't more than a dozen people who even bothered to read Patch. Look back at some of their articles and count how many reader comments and they were on FFU too. No big "flood".
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
RollingThunder2013
()
Date: January 30, 2014 10:29AM
Hello Patchies!
Posted by:
chuckhoffmann
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Date: January 30, 2014 10:51AM
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2014 05:29PM by chuckhoffmann.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2014 05:29PM by chuckhoffmann.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
Aye Aye Patchy
()
Date: January 30, 2014 05:08PM
And didn't they do some sort of consolidation last year, too? I noticed some that I used to visit would redirect me to another one that was nearby.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: January 30, 2014 05:48PM
Tell me exactly how in the hell you can have a quote "local" news source when the same editor evidently has to be in Chantilly, Fairfax Station, Lotron, Oakton, Mount Vernon, Tyson's Corner, and Lord only knows which other towns all at the same time, and know what is going on in each small community, and the myriad differences in each? Impossible.
Posted by:
chuckhoffmann
()
Date: January 30, 2014 06:51PM
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2014 05:31PM by chuckhoffmann.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2014 05:31PM by chuckhoffmann.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
Chantilly Resident
()
Date: January 30, 2014 07:02PM
chuckhoffmann Wrote:
> Chantilly Patch - Rachel Hatzipanagos
>
> If they don't just pull the plug on all the
> Fairfax Patch sites, I suspect they're going to
> consolidate them under Mary Ann Barton.
>
> The problem I can see is that they just had too
> many people on the payroll. If they were paying
> $35K - $40K to each editor, that means they were
> paying $280-$320K per year to run all the various
> Fairfax Patches to editors alone, not considering
> the cost of freelancers and salespeople.
Interesting. I have lived in Chantilly since 1999 and have never even heard of "Chantilly Patch". Guess their business model sucked all this time. I spend a ton of time on the internet looking for local news. Oh well, since I never knew it existed, I guess I should not care it is gone.
> Chantilly Patch - Rachel Hatzipanagos
>
> If they don't just pull the plug on all the
> Fairfax Patch sites, I suspect they're going to
> consolidate them under Mary Ann Barton.
>
> The problem I can see is that they just had too
> many people on the payroll. If they were paying
> $35K - $40K to each editor, that means they were
> paying $280-$320K per year to run all the various
> Fairfax Patches to editors alone, not considering
> the cost of freelancers and salespeople.
Interesting. I have lived in Chantilly since 1999 and have never even heard of "Chantilly Patch". Guess their business model sucked all this time. I spend a ton of time on the internet looking for local news. Oh well, since I never knew it existed, I guess I should not care it is gone.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
Aye Aye Patchy
()
Date: January 30, 2014 09:11PM
Maybe they'd have done better if when writing up crime reports from FCPD they gave the full story, rather then sanitizing it because people of a certain race are over represented in committing crimes in this country.
Here is but one example: http://greateralexandria.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/police-investigating-robbery-in-mount-vernon-area
Here is but one example: http://greateralexandria.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/police-investigating-robbery-in-mount-vernon-area
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
Hernstonite
()
Date: January 30, 2014 09:20PM
After Bob Bruhns was gone, there was little reason to read the local papers in Herndon and Reston.
Posted by:
chuckhoffmann
()
Date: January 30, 2014 10:16PM
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2014 05:32PM by chuckhoffmann.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2014 05:32PM by chuckhoffmann.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
Good Riddance
()
Date: January 31, 2014 12:35AM
They spent too much time kissing the butt of every lib politician to be bothered with news. Screw them and good riddance! Can't wait for the Post to follow them down the toilet.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
S.O.S
()
Date: January 31, 2014 07:28AM
Good Riddance Wrote:
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> They spent too much time kissing the butt of every
> lib politician to be bothered with news. Screw
> them and good riddance! Can't wait for the Post
> to follow them down the toilet.
Exactly. Everything was one sided.
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> They spent too much time kissing the butt of every
> lib politician to be bothered with news. Screw
> them and good riddance! Can't wait for the Post
> to follow them down the toilet.
Exactly. Everything was one sided.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
Atom
()
Date: January 31, 2014 09:22AM
Left wing propaganda may be saturated, but there is plenty of room for more republican mouth pieces. Must be because conservatives like to eat shit ie definition of Santorum.
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
Patchie Patch
()
Date: January 31, 2014 09:30AM
Atom Wrote:
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> Left wing propaganda may be saturated, but there
> is plenty of room for more republican mouth
> pieces. Must be because conservatives like to eat
> shit ie definition of Santorum.
Always great to hear from another former Patch staffer! How's welfare treating you? Enjoying your Obamaphone?
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> Left wing propaganda may be saturated, but there
> is plenty of room for more republican mouth
> pieces. Must be because conservatives like to eat
> shit ie definition of Santorum.
Always great to hear from another former Patch staffer! How's welfare treating you? Enjoying your Obamaphone?
Re: Reston Patch Circling the Drain?
Posted by:
Lloydster
()
Date: January 31, 2014 09:41AM
chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> nat4lee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tell me exactly how in the hell you can have a
> > quote "local" news source when the same editor
> > evidently has to be in Chantilly, Fairfax
> Station,
> > Lotron, Oakton, Mount Vernon, Tyson's Corner,
> and
> > Lord only knows which other towns all at the
> same
> > time, and know what is going on in each small
> > community, and the myriad differences in each?
> > Impossible.
>
> You can do local, you just can't do "hyperlocal",
> which is what Patch was all about.
>
> If you think about it, there's just not enough
> people in Fairfax County to justify the expense of
> "hyperlocal".
>
> For example, there are 30,484 people in the
> Springfield CDP. If you add in the North
> Springfield (7,274), West Springfield (22,460),
> and Newington (12,964) and Newington Forest
> (12,442) CDP's, you have a total of 85,624 people.
>
>
> Now, if 10% of those people are reading your
> "hyperlocal" Web site regularly, I'd say you're
> doing fantastically well, but that means you only
> have 8,562 "subscribers".
>
> If I'm getting paid $40,000 a year to produce my
> "hyperlocal" Web site, that means I have to sell
> $4.67 worth of advertising for every subscriber
> just to cover my salary.
>
> Even further, if I have 5 ads on my site and every
> one of the ads on my "hyperlocal" Web site
> generates a 2% response, that means that the cost
> to my advertisers for a total of 171 customers to
> each advertiser. That means you have to pay me
> $667 per month for a potential of 14 new customers
> that month, or nearly $50 per customer.
>
> Note that my percentages are wildly optimistic.
> I'd say a more realistic response would be maybe
> 2% subscription rate, or 1712 people, and a 0.2%
> conversion, or about 3 people per advertisement,
> because the truth is that most people absolutely
> ignore advertising on Web sites.
>
> If I go to a business telling them I can send them
> another three customers a month, they'd be like,
> "Oh, that's nice," but they're definitely not
> going to pay me hundreds of dollars to do it.
Excellent analytical skills Chuck
I could be wrong but I'm right 99% of the time
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> nat4lee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tell me exactly how in the hell you can have a
> > quote "local" news source when the same editor
> > evidently has to be in Chantilly, Fairfax
> Station,
> > Lotron, Oakton, Mount Vernon, Tyson's Corner,
> and
> > Lord only knows which other towns all at the
> same
> > time, and know what is going on in each small
> > community, and the myriad differences in each?
> > Impossible.
>
> You can do local, you just can't do "hyperlocal",
> which is what Patch was all about.
>
> If you think about it, there's just not enough
> people in Fairfax County to justify the expense of
> "hyperlocal".
>
> For example, there are 30,484 people in the
> Springfield CDP. If you add in the North
> Springfield (7,274), West Springfield (22,460),
> and Newington (12,964) and Newington Forest
> (12,442) CDP's, you have a total of 85,624 people.
>
>
> Now, if 10% of those people are reading your
> "hyperlocal" Web site regularly, I'd say you're
> doing fantastically well, but that means you only
> have 8,562 "subscribers".
>
> If I'm getting paid $40,000 a year to produce my
> "hyperlocal" Web site, that means I have to sell
> $4.67 worth of advertising for every subscriber
> just to cover my salary.
>
> Even further, if I have 5 ads on my site and every
> one of the ads on my "hyperlocal" Web site
> generates a 2% response, that means that the cost
> to my advertisers for a total of 171 customers to
> each advertiser. That means you have to pay me
> $667 per month for a potential of 14 new customers
> that month, or nearly $50 per customer.
>
> Note that my percentages are wildly optimistic.
> I'd say a more realistic response would be maybe
> 2% subscription rate, or 1712 people, and a 0.2%
> conversion, or about 3 people per advertisement,
> because the truth is that most people absolutely
> ignore advertising on Web sites.
>
> If I go to a business telling them I can send them
> another three customers a month, they'd be like,
> "Oh, that's nice," but they're definitely not
> going to pay me hundreds of dollars to do it.
Excellent analytical skills Chuck
I could be wrong but I'm right 99% of the time