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Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: foxy ()
Date: June 18, 2013 09:32PM

Lots of police, fire, ambulance...helicopter circling and landed at school...just left. Anyone know what is going on?

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: fmnieghbor ()
Date: June 18, 2013 09:45PM

I heard a kid was electrocuted ..playing on the roof and they fell off and grabbed a wire not sure if true yet

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Tragic ()
Date: June 18, 2013 09:48PM

Box 3107 / Event ALS / Adrs 2611 Viking Dr/Fox Mill ES / Note E431 with command. Young male hanging from conduit approx 8 - 10 ft off the ground. Requesting 3 additional transport units. FFX1, Va Power, School Security, PD all responding.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Curmudgeon ()
Date: June 18, 2013 10:07PM

on the last day of school too. that's awful.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: foxmillborn ()
Date: June 18, 2013 10:16PM

Lights would be nice and it would keep kids and teens from going back there.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Groovy-Ghoul ()
Date: June 18, 2013 10:22PM

I find this story SHOCKING...

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Grow up in Fox Mill ()
Date: June 18, 2013 10:32PM

We need to get Neighborhood Watch going .The Home Owners Association.Has not done anything.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: So sorry to hear this! ()
Date: June 18, 2013 10:37PM

This is upsetting to say the least. Those poor parents! Does anyone have more details or the names of the students?

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: June 18, 2013 10:43PM

What an electrifying situation.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: PC Member ()
Date: June 18, 2013 10:50PM

Any updates? Any names? This is awful

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Grow up in Fox Mill ()
Date: June 18, 2013 10:52PM

Has any one heard anymore

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: students ()
Date: June 18, 2013 10:55PM

kids hurt were teens from what the news said. So they were not Fox Mill school kids.

HOA has nothing to do with the school property. Fox Mill School is one of the best in the counties, but has yet to be updated. Guess SOL scores don't help for improvements to the school. There are only a few trailers. A few summers ago three or four teenagers broke in to one of the trailers. 1 girl and the rest boys. I remember hearing rumors the teens were caught with there pants down.

HOA does a great job with the neighborhood. Fairfax County Schools needs to put in lights in the parking lot and the fields behind and on the sides of the school.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: names ()
Date: June 18, 2013 10:57PM

no names will make the news. minors. charges will be made on the teens. signs are posted closed after dark. this is sad news.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Mr GFR ()
Date: June 18, 2013 10:59PM

students Wrote:
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> kids hurt were teens from what the news said. So
> they were not Fox Mill school kids.
>
> HOA has nothing to do with the school property.
> Fox Mill School is one of the best in the
> counties, but has yet to be updated. Guess SOL
> scores don't help for improvements to the school.
> There are only a few trailers. A few summers ago
> three or four teenagers broke in to one of the
> trailers. 1 girl and the rest boys. I remember
> hearing rumors the teens were caught with there
> pants down.
>
> HOA does a great job with the neighborhood.
> Fairfax County Schools needs to put in lights in
> the parking lot and the fields behind and on the
> sides of the school.


Then the home owners around the school would bitch because of the lights being on at night.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: acquacow ()
Date: June 18, 2013 11:01PM

There are names on Twitter of two kids...

This all happened literally in my back yard... counted 4 ambulances, 4 firetrucks, 5 police cars, and 1 helicopter.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: dumb kids ()
Date: June 18, 2013 11:08PM

oh well. another reason why these stupid kids get in trouble. climbing on top of the school's where they shouldnt be. guess they wont make that mistake again. no common sense.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Reminder ()
Date: June 18, 2013 11:08PM

I hate to say this but... kid touching conduit wires = DOA.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: cherry_sherbert ()
Date: June 18, 2013 11:15PM

i go to these kids school, the boy who is in the worst condition is supposedly bennett rill, he was with a couple friends, we think one of his friends he was with was jeffrey simon. if you know any information or know anyone who knows these kids please try to contact them, a lot of people are worried and want to know who is involved and what is happening.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: nobody cares ()
Date: June 18, 2013 11:17PM

does it really matter what their names are? sounds like one of em is a crispy critter now. should of used some common sense and found something better to do with their free time.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: 570 ()
Date: June 18, 2013 11:25PM

So a bunch of kids doing something they're not supposed to be doing...and now they're dead. Well, I guess they won't be making any more poor choices. What a couple of mopes...

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: acquacow ()
Date: June 18, 2013 11:26PM

sounds like the kids were from Oakton HS?

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Mr GFR ()
Date: June 18, 2013 11:32PM

News just said at least 1 kid is dead...died at the school.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Date: June 18, 2013 11:35PM

The three kids just finished 8th grade at Rachel Carson Middle School. One is dead (news just announced it). Their names are floating around on Twitter. Not sure who the fourth is who was supposedly with them but didn't go to the hospital.

What I find most startling is the girl who was on the news being interviewed, the one going on about how people hang out there all the time. They do? Is hanging out on a school roof commonplace?

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Grow up in Fox Mill ()
Date: June 18, 2013 11:54PM

Why can"t we have a neighbor watch that watch School Grounds . it's in our neighborhood.And you all lie about things being on the top of your list.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Fox Miller ()
Date: June 18, 2013 11:58PM

Grow up in Fox Mill Wrote:
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> Why can"t we have a neighbor watch that watch
> School Grounds . it's in our neighborhood.And you
> all lie about things being on the top of your
> list.

My kids have been told not to be on school grounds outside of school hours without adult supervision. It's not Neighborhood Watch's responsibility to report kids trespassing at a school after hours. This is parent fail.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: gerdfghujik ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:05AM

nobody cares Wrote:
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> does it really matter what their names are? sounds
> like one of em is a crispy critter now. should of
> used some common sense and found something better
> to do with their free time.


Well fuck you too go to hell, they were just trying to start their summer out with a good time! you're a heartless cold son of a bitch and for you to go on here saying this about three 8th grade children who's lives were just completely torn apart is so fucking low of you! Do you not have anything better to do with your life? Youre an ass hole and you deserve to get slapped in the face. Fuck you.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: JCYU7 ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:14AM

Tragic what happened if this is true. I dont understand why they were messing around with high voltage power lines. Granted most of the time they are sealed there can be cracks to expose the braided aluminum wire. I did some stupid stuff as a kid but messing around with powerlines was not one of them.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Crispy Critter Fan ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:16AM

A teen was electrocuted and three others were injured after they climbed onto a Herndon elementary school roof Tuesday, Fairfax police say.

The 14 year old became entangled in the electrical lines on the roof of Fox Mill Elementary School shortly before 9 p.m., according to Don Gotthardt of Fairfax Police. He was pronounced dead on scene.

Two 14 year old's and a 15 year old were taken to Fairfax INOVA with non-life threatening injuries.

All four teens are Fairfax students.

John Torre, the public information officer for Fairfax County Schools, says a shed in the rear of the school gives access to the roof.

There are wires on the roof, which he believes the teens made contact with.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: The dum ass ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:25AM

If there are light people can call the police. And there would be no more things going on up there

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Simon Walter ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:28AM

Well said. Idiot with his wisdom after the fact. Actually calling him an idiot is an insult to idiots.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:29AM

Mom and dad will surely sue someone.

Sometimes trespassers get killed. That's why they put up no trespassing signs.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Sarah M ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:46AM

Hi,
Its been confirmed that Bennet Rill was killed after falling off the roof of Fox Mill Elementary, trying to grab onto a wire, and was electrocuted. His friend,Jeffrey Simon, was there too, and tried to help him up. He got electrocuted as well, but he's alive in the hospital. He's an 8th grade, though I'm half-certain he attended Franklin Middle School in Fairfax VA. He was on the roof while hanging out with a couple of his friends on the last day of school.It is believed he fell as an accident. The incident happened around 7:30-9PM on June 18. Follow his ig at @brillredskins RIP BENNET

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Sad ()
Date: June 19, 2013 01:26AM

I am so sorry for his family, friends ace community. Ver tragic.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Miller ()
Date: June 19, 2013 01:33AM

You are areal Ass hope you dont have kids.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Date: June 19, 2013 01:34AM

pretty sure they all went to Carson, not Franklin

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Anonymous1178 ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:01AM

For all those who it concerns, the rooftop is not a "common" place to hangout for teens as stated by that girl on the news. Climbing on the roof was more of a dare or one one time thing that kids would try. No one is purposely playing with live wires, they just happen to be right where kids can climb onto the roof. These kids not playing with wires.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Smartass ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:24AM

The girl should have chose her words wisely because that just tells us its the probably past kids fault causing such mishap to happen for future unforseen consequences. Kids these days are just plain stupid and parents fail at parenting. Does anyone ever bring a fucking flashlight before going out at night anymore? -_-

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Anon123 ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:31AM

Don't criticize the kids, they are kids. The school should have made sure this was not accessible to them. No parent should have to bury their child. This is tragic. Also think about the poor boys that survived, they have to recover and live with the terrible memory of a tragic event.

My thoughts and prayers to the families.

It is about time they sort Fox Mill school out. Comments have been made that they were aware that kids were climbing up there they did nothing to remedy the situation. It should not take the death of a child and injury to other children to remedy a situation. Shame on you FMES and FCPS.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: The Neighborhood Watch! ()
Date: June 19, 2013 06:39AM

Several Teens Injured in Fall From Fox Mill Elementary Roof
Injuries may have been caused by falling onto live wire.
http://herndon.patch.com/groups/breaking-news/p/several-injured-in-fall-from-fox-mill-elementary-roof

Fairfax County Fire and Rescue were called to Fox Mill Elementary in Herndon Tuesday evening when several juveniles were injured in a fall from the roof of the school.

County Fire and Rescue posted the emergency call to its Twitter feed, saying a "young male hanging from conduit approx 8 - 10 ft off the ground. "

Crews were still on the scene about 9:45 p.m. trying to assess what happened. At least two teens were taken to the hospital, fire officials said.

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At 11:30 pm, local news is reporting that one of the teens is dead. Thoughts are with the families at fox mill right now.
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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Sympathy ()
Date: June 19, 2013 06:48AM

Fours kids. Summer fun.
Young Rill dies at Fox Mill.
No laughter, just tears.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: asdfadsfadsf ()
Date: June 19, 2013 07:02AM

Sympathy Wrote:
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> Fours kids. Summer fun.
> Young Rill dies at Fox Mill.
> No laughter, just tears.

What were they doing on the roof of the school?

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Ranger Rikki ()
Date: June 19, 2013 07:08AM

All kids to dumb things. I did dumb things, we all did. It is so sad when a silly dumb kid thing ends up in a tragic death. Sincere condolences and prayers to Bennett's family. Here's an RIP page set up for him on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/198040627019770/

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: So sorry to hear this ()
Date: June 19, 2013 07:17AM

Very sorry to hear this sad and tragic news. Prayers go out to the families of all involved.
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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: CERTenly3456765 ()
Date: June 19, 2013 07:48AM

CERT teaches to not touch wires, they are always alive! Very sad for them. CERT ROCKs!!

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Hug Your Kids ()
Date: June 19, 2013 07:52AM

So why is it everyone else's fault...the school, the HOA, etc, etc and not the kids who chose to do something illegal in the first place? Did they not get enough parenting at home that said "Don't do stupid, illegal things"? Or did the they just not listen?

Sad story. Throwing out blame doesn't change the fact that kids teens will be teens and bad things can happen. You can't always cover all the bases. Hopefully other kids will learn something from this.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: momfm ()
Date: June 19, 2013 07:56AM

Fox Miller Wrote:
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> Grow up in Fox Mill Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why can"t we have a neighbor watch that watch
> > School Grounds . it's in our neighborhood.And
> you
> > all lie about things being on the top of your
> > list.
>
> My kids have been told not to be on school grounds
> outside of school hours without adult supervision.
> It's not Neighborhood Watch's responsibility to
> report kids trespassing at a school after hours.
> This is parent fail.

Calling this a parent Fail is horrible... How Judgemental and heartless you sound. Do you think any parent tells a kid to go play an a roof I am so glad you can control your 14 year old by just telling them that.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Proper Haiku ()
Date: June 19, 2013 07:59AM

Fours kids. Summer fun.
Youthful Rill dies at Fox Mill.
No laughter, just tears.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Why not a poem? ()
Date: June 19, 2013 08:09AM

Four kids. Summer fun.
Last day of School for a friendly run,
Up to the top they did go,
All fell, and said “Oh no”
Young Rill can say no more,
He has left this land forevermore.
No laughter, just tears.
Another incident to fuel a mother's fear.
In the company of angels, Rill now does play,
Looking down at us from heaven, in the sun’s rays.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: CERTenly3456765 ()
Date: June 19, 2013 08:14AM

CERT doesn't not teach poetry, but maybe it should.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Mrgrm ()
Date: June 19, 2013 08:15AM

Fucking ass wipes making jokes about this? I have no words for you sick fucks. That is just so low and pitiful of you. You should be ashamed.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Fox Miller ()
Date: June 19, 2013 10:09AM

momfm Wrote:
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> Fox Miller Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Grow up in Fox Mill Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why can"t we have a neighbor watch that watch
> > > School Grounds . it's in our neighborhood.And
> > you
> > > all lie about things being on the top of your
> > > list.
> >
> > My kids have been told not to be on school
> grounds
> > outside of school hours without adult
> supervision.
> > It's not Neighborhood Watch's responsibility to
> > report kids trespassing at a school after
> hours.
> > This is parent fail.
>
> Calling this a parent Fail is horrible... How
> Judgemental and heartless you sound. Do you think
> any parent tells a kid to go play an a roof I am
> so glad you can control your 14 year old by just
> telling them that.

No, I don't think any parent tells a kid to go play on a roof and that's not what I was implying. Playing on the roof of ANY building is not safe. MOST people inherently are aware of this but, evidently there's one crispy burnt dead kid and another burnt one in the hospital who don't.

Look, just go back to your room...errrr, your parents' basement. Mommy will be down soon to smother your genitals with marshmallow fluff and Daddy will play hide the nine-iron in your ass and watch you lick your shit off the end of it, ok? Then you can all watch "The Shield" together...

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Mrs. CERT ()
Date: June 19, 2013 10:10AM

CERTenly3456765 Wrote:
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> CERT doesn't not teach poetry, but maybe it
> should.

Oh my God! CERTY! Where have you been? Me numbuh one fan! Me miss you long time! How you bean?

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: unfortunate ()
Date: June 19, 2013 10:39AM

I grew up with my elementary school in the 70's right outside my back fence and I routinely climbed on the roof for fun. Heck, I held the chin up record at the school and took pride in how fast I could climb to the roof using any number of available gutters. It was fun in a stupid kind of way, permitted me and my buddies to look into the principal's office through a skylight. Me and my buddies never destroyed any property. Stupid? Yes. Unusual? Heck no. This is why this is tragic. And is it not a parent fail, either.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Jack D. ()
Date: June 19, 2013 10:41AM

RIP Bennett Rill

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: sosorry ()
Date: June 19, 2013 10:42AM

This news is very sad, and it is rare around here.
My condolences to the families.
That said, people often wonder why some of us schedule our kids with so many activities. Have you heard people say "why not just let them be kids? Run around, hang out explore?" Well, there is your answer.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: A parent ()
Date: June 19, 2013 10:44AM

Hug Your Kids Wrote:
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> So why is it everyone else's fault...the school,
> the HOA, etc, etc and not the kids who chose to do
> something illegal in the first place? Did they not
> get enough parenting at home that said "Don't do
> stupid, illegal things"? Or did the they just not
> listen?
>
> Sad story. Throwing out blame doesn't change the
> fact that kids teens will be teens and bad things
> can happen. You can't always cover all the bases.
> Hopefully other kids will learn something from
> this.

You must not remember anything from your teen years. Kids make dumb choices. I know I made plenty as a teenager, and I was far from a troubled kid and had two very involved parents. Every teen says "nothing bad will happen".

Parenting can only do so much. You can tell kids not to drink, not to smoke, not to speed, not to text and drive, and they will still do it because they think they can get away with it and nothing bad will happen.

But we also have a responsibility to do what we can to protect dumb kids from themselves. If kids were "frequently" on the roof of the school, then steps should have been taken to make it harder to do so, either with lights, moving the shed away from the school, putting up some sort of wall/fence along that portion of the roof to prevent access, etc.

On the other hand, this was a freak accident. You could put a lot of money into trying to prevent something that has a one-in-a-million chance of happening again. Is it worth it? I'm sure the parents of the boy who died would say yes.

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Slow Roasted Flavor In Every Bite
Posted by: Fairfax Boy ()
Date: June 19, 2013 11:15AM

Those children had no business up on that roof, and this is what happens when children are allowed to run wild.

Why should the county remove the shed?

Yes it is sad that a child was killed, but the parents have the task of being the parent. This is the situation we have here in Fairfax County - Parents with little or no control of their children.

14 years is not enough, and these parents are the ones the must carry the guilt for their lack of parental control.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Brook Mill ()
Date: June 19, 2013 11:17AM

I was shocked to hear the name this morning. This boy was a teammate of my son's during the early elementary years and his dad was a wonderful and involved coach. Teens get into so much trouble and there's no way the parents can anticipate everything. This school is in a neighborhood, surrounded by homes, and easily accessible by foot or bicycle.

It blows our minds the stupid and risky things teens get into. They are impulsive and immature even through the college years. Most kids get second chances, which is why this is so tragic.

Expose wires though - that had to be a risk even for the folks who do maintenance on the building.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Sanity Check ()
Date: June 19, 2013 11:45AM

Anyone who thinks its funny that a 14 year was electrocuted is serously mentally disturbed. Now that you have had time to reflect on your incredibly stupid comments will you at least admit you were wrong?

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: good ole Janie ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:23PM

“They were kids playing in a place that’s not safe to play,” said Fairfax school board member Janie Strauss (Dranesville). “It was a very sad, tragic accident. Our heart aches for those parents and that family.”

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: InTheNews ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:25PM

Teen electrocuted when he fell on live wire. Witness: 'We couldn't help him. We couldn't get him down.'

One of the boys - whose arm was burned, Hale said - ran into the school where a janitor was located. The janitor cut the power to the building.

http://herndon.patch.com/groups/breaking-news/p/boy-14-dies-after-accident-at-fox-mill-es_eccb21a8

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Online Photos ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:29PM


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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: tort lawyer ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:30PM

School building might be an "attractive nuisance"

That doctrine provides that children are unable to control their impulses, and when a piece of property has some feature that children find interesting (pond, tower, etc.), that owner should anticipate that children may be drawn to that feature, and should take appropriate measures to protect such child trespassers.

Generally Virginia does not adhere to the “attractive nuisance” doctrine.

HOWEVER, there are some cases in Virginia which carve out an exception to this general rule in cases where an owner maintains on his property an instrumentality of hidden or latent danger [EXPOSED WIRES] which is easily accessible to children and in a location where children are known to frequently gather [APPARENTLY THE CASE HERE -- BEHAVIOR WAS "COMMONPLACE" according to one witness]. See Washabaugh v Northern Va. Constr. Co., 187 Va. 767 (1948).

http://www.candalaw.com/Articles/Overview-of-Virginia-s-Law-on-Liability-of-a-Property-Owner.shtml

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Foxy ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:37PM

Isn't this the same school that teens got into and burned to the ground a couple of years ago?

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: tort lawyer ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:38PM

Was it "a location where children are known to frequently gather" ?

Appears so:

"According to a Fox Mills Estates resident who lives adjacent to the school and wished to remain anonymous, neighborhood teens often climb up on the roof of the school to “hang out.”"

http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20130619/NEWS/130619057/1117/teen-electrocuted-on-roof-next-to-fox-mill-elementary-school&template=fairfaxTimes

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Reprobate ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:42PM

Man, when school was out the last place I wanted to be was at school. What's wrong with these kids? I mean...I guess nothing now since they're all dead and junk...

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: trailers ()
Date: June 19, 2013 12:47PM

The trailers are semi-permenant structures. Why we have them littering out school grounds is a function of budget limitations. You would think being the richest County in the country (or one of the richest) we could afford to educate our kids absent the dangers of make-shift trailers. We have a bunch of them at our ES and I can tell you the electric hook ups are indeed temporary. Kids do stupid things but how many of them get electricuted at home or around permenant structures? There are other safety issues with these trailers from off-gassing, to security, to vunerability in storms - they are not safe.

There are costs to being cheap about our schools and this is one of them...

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Parental Opinion ()
Date: June 19, 2013 01:02PM

Brook Mill Wrote:
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> Expose wires though - that had to be a risk even
> for the folks who do maintenance on the building.

Essentially ALL overhead wires - as these were - are exposed and represent a continuous risk of shock.

[that's why, when you see a "downed wire", you're supposed to get the fire department involved immediately and keep everyone away from it]

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Parental Opinion ()
Date: June 19, 2013 01:03PM

trailers Wrote:
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> There are other safety issues with
> these trailers from off-gassing, to security, to
> vunerability in storms - they are not safe.

Oh, give us a break!

What a bullshit set of words that never should have met a web page...

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: The Neighborhood Watch! ()
Date: June 19, 2013 01:19PM

Online Photos Wrote:
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> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20130619/NEWS/
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Teen electrocuted on roof next to Fox Mill Elementary School
Three other teens hospitalized
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20130619/NEWS/130619057/1117/teen-electrocuted-on-roof-next-to-fox-mill-elementary-school&template=fairfaxTimes

A Fairfax County teen was electrocuted and three more were hospitalized after an incident on the roof of a trailer next to Fox Mill Elementary School Tuesday night.

The four teens — three age 14 and one age 15 — were on the roof of a teaching trailer behind the school shortly before 9 p.m. when Fairfax County Fire and Rescue officials were called, according to Fairfax County police spokesman Don Gotthardt.

“Police and fire were called shortly before 9 p.m. and found four teenagers. One apparently was found entangled in what appears to be some sort of electrical wire. We believe he was electrocuted and was pronounced dead at the scene,” Gotthardt said Tuesday night. “The wire was attached to the back side of the school. The three other teens were all taken to Inova Fairfax Hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.”

Police have not released the identities of the teens. Gotthardt said they were all Fairfax County Public School students, but not at Fox Mill Elementary. Gotthardt described them all as “local kids,” and added that they did not appear to be trying to enter the school.

According to Fairfax County Fire and Rescue records, the deceased teen was discovered “hanging from conduit approx 8-10 ft off the ground.”

The school is at 2611 Viking Drive in Herndon.

FCPS spokesman John Torre said Tuesday night that the teens were on the roof of the building.

“It is my understanding that there is a shed on the back of the building that you can climb up and get access to the roof of the school from,” Torre said. “Apparently there are some wires along the roofline that may have been what was involved here.”

According to a Fox Mills Estates resident who lives adjacent to the school and wished to remain anonymous, neighborhood teens often climb up on the roof of the school to “hang out.”

Fox Mill Elementary School Assistant Principal Brian Moose acknowledged that there is a shed behind the school with wires and conduits that can be accessed. “You could climb it pretty easily,” he said.

Torre said he did not know of students doing that.

“I am not quite familiar with that, but it was the last day of school and school was let out today, and these kids are not students here at Fox Mill, but they were apparently trying to access the roof for whatever reason. It is very sad news and our thoughts and our best wishes are extended to the families,” Torre said.

This teaching trailer behind Fox Mill Elementary school is often used by teens to climb up onto the school’s roof, according to nearby residents.
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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Mr Dirt ()
Date: June 19, 2013 01:23PM

trailers Wrote:
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> The trailers are semi-permenant structures. Why
> we have them littering out school grounds is a
> function of budget limitations. You would think
> being the richest County in the country (or one of
> the richest) we could afford to educate our kids
> absent the dangers of make-shift trailers. We
> have a bunch of them at our ES and I can tell you
> the electric hook ups are indeed temporary. Kids
> do stupid things but how many of them get
> electricuted at home or around permenant
> structures? There are other safety issues with
> these trailers from off-gassing, to security, to
> vunerability in storms - they are not safe.
>
> There are costs to being cheap about our schools
> and this is one of them...

Amen, get rid of the trailer parks at Fairfax county schools.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Oak Hill Dad ()
Date: June 19, 2013 01:33PM

More details emerge. Prayers to all the families involved as well as the first responders and witnesses to this tragic loss.

Bennett Rill is killed in accident at Fox Mill school in Fairfax
By Martin Weil and Justin Jouvenal, Published: June 18 | Updated: Wednesday, June 19, 11:15 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/1-critically-injured-at-fairfax-school/2013/06/18/36016c0c-d889-11e2-a016-92547bf094cc_story.html


Father: Son was electrocuted while helping friend Wednesday - 6/19/2013, 1:15pm ET

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=149&sid=3362770

Boy, 14, Dies in Accident with Electric Wire on Roof of Fox Mill ES
Posted by Karen Goff (Editor), June 19, 2013 at 12:07 pm

http://herndon.patch.com/groups/breaking-news/p/boy-14-dies-after-accident-at-fox-mill-es_eccb21a8

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: nearly 900 ()
Date: June 19, 2013 01:36PM

Every year FCPS promises to reduce the trailers and every year the number goes up.

We spend MILLIONS----yes MILLION relocating them.

Would love for a company to test the air quality and mold.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: asdfsdfafds ()
Date: June 19, 2013 01:38PM

tort lawyer Wrote:
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> Was it "a location where children are known to
> frequently gather" ?
>
> Appears so:
>
> "According to a Fox Mills Estates resident who
> lives adjacent to the school and wished to remain
> anonymous, neighborhood teens often
> climb up on the roof
of the school to “hang
> out.”"
>
> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20130619/NEWS/
> 130619057/1117/teen-electrocuted-on-roof-next-to-f
> ox-mill-elementary-school&template=fairfaxTimes


Well, I’m sure this is going to erupt into a firestorm as to why the school allowed kids to “hang out” up there. Where was school security you ask?
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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Mr GFR ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:13PM

asdfsdfafds Wrote:
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> tort lawyer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Was it "a location where children are known to
> > frequently gather" ?
> >
> > Appears so:
> >
> > "According to a Fox Mills Estates resident who
> > lives adjacent to the school and wished to
> remain
> > anonymous, neighborhood teens often
> > climb up on the roof
of the school to
> “hang
> > out.”"
> >
> >
> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20130619/NEWS/
>
> >
> 130619057/1117/teen-electrocuted-on-roof-next-to-f
>
> > ox-mill-elementary-school&template=fairfaxTimes
>
>
> Well, I’m sure this is going to erupt into a
> firestorm as to why the school allowed kids to
> “hang out” up there. Where was school security
> you ask?


Not sure what that picture is suppose to be but its not a FCPS security employee. Do you know how many school security guards are working in the county that time of the night?

The responsibility for this tragic accident lays with the kids. They are old enough to have known better then to be trespassing on the school. Does not matter if the kids trespassed there "all the time", they still knew it was wrong. They chose to do something illegal and sadly people got hurt.

My question is had this kid been caught at the school before? Did his parents know where he was and what he was doing? Not blaming the parents but their kid is the one that made poor choices.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: The Hard Truth ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:13PM

This is not the school's fault, not the parent's fault, nor is it the kid's fault (well...). Bad shit happens and as humans, we just gotta deal.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Oh contrare ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:17PM

The Hard Truth Wrote:
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> This is not the school's fault, not the parent's
> fault, nor is it the kid's fault (well...). Bad
> shit happens and as humans, we just gotta deal.


Actually it is the parent's fault. It happened around 9pm on Tuesday night, they were all minors, so its not the school's fault to watch these kids after they leave. This was the parent's failure to properly superviser their kids. Yes, the kids shouldn't have been up there, but guess what parents? You are responsible for your kids while they're still minors. I'm a parent and guess what? I do my job, because I know what kids do. I've very sad for these parents and my hopes and prayers are with them and their families, as well as their friends & community. Bad things happen to good people, but alot of that can get prevented if parents realize their job is their children.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Fraidy Cop ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:25PM

If this had been in Loudoun, we would have shot them for terrorism.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: CERTenly3456765 ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:37PM

Mrs. CERT Wrote:
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> CERTenly3456765 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CERT doesn't not teach poetry, but maybe it
> > should.
>
> Oh my God! CERTY! Where have you been? Me numbuh
> one fan! Me miss you long time! How you bean?


I read here but no more posting here, people are mean to me. Come to the CERT convention next week, will be fun!

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CERT Training next week
Posted by: CERTenly3456765 ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:39PM

Next week CERT learn all about Ewectwicity.
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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: yep, you guessed it ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:40PM

"thoughts" and "prayers"

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Re: CERT Training next week
Posted by: CERTenly3456765 ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:47PM

CERTenly3456765 Wrote:
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> Next week CERT learn all about Ewectwicity.


I not write this, this is why I no post any more.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Mrs. Cert ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:49PM

CERTenly3456765 Wrote:
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> Mrs. CERT Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CERTenly3456765 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > CERT doesn't not teach poetry, but maybe it
> > > should.
> >
> > Oh my God! CERTY! Where have you been? Me
> numbuh
> > one fan! Me miss you long time! How you bean?
>
>
> I read here but no more posting here, people are
> mean to me. Come to the CERT convention next
> week, will be fun!


No, no CERTY...people no mean to you, people misunderSTAND you. Me love you CERTY. Please, please, please make posts. Maybe you make posts...we make fucky-sucky? Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyway...it good to see you, irregardless. People say dat not word but me like that word so me use it.

Now CERTY...why you post rectrical man sparky-sparky gif like dat? Dat not nice, CERTY. Dat man dead now, CERTY. You no gorify people dead...you CERTY...you help people and help people stay safe. Dat scare people to be safe but dat not really keeping them safe all CERTY-like.

Ok, me come to CERT-stock. Hope day got rots of bands at CERT-stock. Maybe learn safe stuff, too from CERTY. Ok, bye now...people likely flame me now.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Thetruth ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:50PM

Oh contrare Wrote:
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> Actually it is the parent's fault. It happened
> around 9pm on Tuesday night, they were all minors,
> so its not the school's fault to watch these kids
> after they leave. This was the parent's failure to
> properly superviser their kids. Yes, the kids
> shouldn't have been up there, but guess what
> parents? You are responsible for your kids while
> they're still minors. I'm a parent and guess what?
> I do my job, because I know what kids do. I've
> very sad for these parents and my hopes and
> prayers are with them and their families, as well
> as their friends & community. Bad things happen to
> good people, but alot of that can get prevented if
> parents realize their job is their children.


Are you a parent of teenagers? You may think you know where they are at all times but you don't. This was a tragic accident -- can't pin it on the parents. Teens do stupid things. End of story. No amount of parenting can stop peer pressure and the natural desire to test limits.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: CERTenly3456765 ()
Date: June 19, 2013 02:52PM

i Promise I did not post that picture. I stop posting again, people are mean to me.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: CERT Fan club ()
Date: June 19, 2013 03:00PM

NOes, CERT, don go...we need you CAN DO spirite! For REals.

You got messid up writin but we understnd you and want to be like you.

DUCT TAPE?....CHECK!

Collaps building...you in the HOUSE

Hatrs come and go, but CERT Stays

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Re: Slow Roasted Flavor In Every Bite
Posted by: katiesmith ()
Date: June 19, 2013 03:24PM

+1 Why must people constantly insist on spending tax payer dollars because parents don't teach their kids common sense or know where there kids are at 9pm on a school night?


Fairfax Boy Wrote:
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> Those children had no business up on that roof,
> and this is what happens when children are allowed
> to run wild.
>
> Why should the county remove the shed?
>
> Yes it is sad that a child was killed, but the
> parents have the task of being the parent. This is
> the situation we have here in Fairfax County -
> Parents with little or no control of their
> children.
>
> 14 years is not enough, and these parents are the
> ones the must carry the guilt for their lack of
> parental control.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Mrs. CERT ()
Date: June 19, 2013 03:56PM

CERT Fan club Wrote:
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> NOes, CERT, don go...we need you CAN DO spirite!
> For REals.
>
> You got messid up writin but we understnd you and
> want to be like you.
>
> DUCT TAPE?....CHECK!
>
> Collaps building...you in the HOUSE
>
> Hatrs come and go, but CERT Stays


See, CERTY? See? Me tell you so and you no bereeve me but, they many many fans of the CERTY here! Please post...just ignore does people that no rike you. We all ruv you rong time, CERTY!

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: LocalNewsCoverage ()
Date: June 19, 2013 04:05PM


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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: The Quince ()
Date: June 19, 2013 04:54PM

This is a tragedy. A total tragedy. But the trailers didn't kill anybody. Don't blame the trailers.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Truth4ThePeople ()
Date: June 19, 2013 04:55PM

I am so lucky to have parents that told me when I was growing up "Don't play with the electrical power lines."

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Tesla ()
Date: June 19, 2013 04:58PM

Danger Will Robison!
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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Darwinism at work ()
Date: June 19, 2013 05:35PM

Tis a shame the young lad didn't do it at the beginning of the year and save all that time/effort on this year's schooling.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: wxcbs ()
Date: June 19, 2013 05:38PM

The level of idiocy on this topic is appalling. The video of the guy on the train goes so far beyond good taste, it's sad. They made a mistake and paid for it. No use pontificating about "I learned never to..." or "I had parents who..." His parents seem like fine people who stood up to the cameras and answered questions...would we be that strong. The boy who died was a fine young man by all accounts. It's sad...that the boy died, but it's sadder that people post such terrible things about their neighbors or people they don't even know. The web certainly has given people a voice but sometimes the wrong one.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/19/2013 05:40PM by wxcbs.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Parental Opinion ()
Date: June 19, 2013 06:47PM

wxcbs Wrote:
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> They made a mistake and paid for it

I think a number of us out here, reading about the activity and death, are more than a little concerned that the landsharks are swarming to make a few hundred thousand off the county about this rather than the affair ending...essentially...now.

[and, yes, I'm a parent of a teenybopper]

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: wxcbs ()
Date: June 19, 2013 06:51PM

There is plenty of room to add on to that school...the CORRECT way. Not trailers with wires hanging all over the place.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Trailers never go away! ()
Date: June 19, 2013 06:56PM

Trailers are the norm in FCPS. Once they are in they never seem to go away. Our school budget is over a BILLION dollars. We should demand better for our kids and teachers.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Clobbersaurus ()
Date: June 19, 2013 06:57PM

Did they charge them with trespassing?

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: 2.4 Billion? ()
Date: June 19, 2013 07:02PM

This is what Jack Dale asked for before he almost died from too much sun.

2.4 billion and we have trailers? What a scam. This is our tax payer money.

We need to stop Gatehouse and their trips to Disney World and focus on our kids.

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Re: Fox Mill Police activity on June 18
Posted by: Jeff George ()
Date: June 19, 2013 07:25PM

Were the youths brown skinned savages, pretending the power lines were jungle vines?

When is oshammy scheduled to speak about this? Will he give the same 'if I had a son, it would look like this crispy fired bacon' speech?

I await with baited breath!

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