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Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
waldenthreenet
()
Date: June 17, 2013 09:30AM
Topic: Office of Community Revitalization Newsletter Spring 2013__Where Do We Poor People Go ?
Newsletter Revitalization URL Spirng 2013:
http://www.fcrevit.org/publications/download/NewsletterSpring2013.pdf
REF URL: Fairfax Office of Revitalization.
Conversation: These Revitalization Appear to mean additional greenspace loss with more expensive housing and retail space for the upper middle class and wealthy.
I do not understand how this urbanization life style where unaffordable housing for the poor and proliferating shopping space can be sustainable life style defined as "revitalization" with little or no greenspace as I can see.
And no place for for poor people to live where minimum wage retail jobs must be the only sustainance envisioned in this "revitalization" as best I can understand from the beautiful rendering given in these artistic drawings in this newsletter.
Am I the only poor person able to complain ?
According to these DOL numbers, many people who were middle class most of their lives are now among the poorest of the poor as in Fairfax County, VA . No, middle class is not expanding.
This expanded poor class, ie, those with median income 30% below the median and those who cannot afford to shop at these millions of sq ft of retail space, and live at these expensive housing that are being built must be driven out by this unsustaintable revitalization plan ?
Occupy Wall Street now forgotten so quickly ?
(Oh, one easily ignored fact about Fairfax, VA. This county has the largest number of poor people in the State of Virginia, as recently published numbers, with a 10 year update of all 50 States and each county and city within such states).
Waldenthree.net
Newsletter Revitalization URL Spirng 2013:
http://www.fcrevit.org/publications/download/NewsletterSpring2013.pdf
Attachments:
Newsletter Revitalization URL Spirng 2013:
http://www.fcrevit.org/publications/download/NewsletterSpring2013.pdf
REF URL: Fairfax Office of Revitalization.
Conversation: These Revitalization Appear to mean additional greenspace loss with more expensive housing and retail space for the upper middle class and wealthy.
I do not understand how this urbanization life style where unaffordable housing for the poor and proliferating shopping space can be sustainable life style defined as "revitalization" with little or no greenspace as I can see.
And no place for for poor people to live where minimum wage retail jobs must be the only sustainance envisioned in this "revitalization" as best I can understand from the beautiful rendering given in these artistic drawings in this newsletter.
Am I the only poor person able to complain ?
According to these DOL numbers, many people who were middle class most of their lives are now among the poorest of the poor as in Fairfax County, VA . No, middle class is not expanding.
This expanded poor class, ie, those with median income 30% below the median and those who cannot afford to shop at these millions of sq ft of retail space, and live at these expensive housing that are being built must be driven out by this unsustaintable revitalization plan ?
Occupy Wall Street now forgotten so quickly ?
(Oh, one easily ignored fact about Fairfax, VA. This county has the largest number of poor people in the State of Virginia, as recently published numbers, with a 10 year update of all 50 States and each county and city within such states).
Waldenthree.net
Newsletter Revitalization URL Spirng 2013:
http://www.fcrevit.org/publications/download/NewsletterSpring2013.pdf
Attachments:
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
Jess1
()
Date: June 17, 2013 09:39AM
"This expanded poor class, ie, those with median income 30% below the median and those who cannot afford to shop at these millions of sq ft of retail space, and live at these expensive housing that are being built must be driven out"
Yeah. So What? I can't afford to live @ the beach at Malibu, either. WHAAAAHWWHAAAAA.
Yeah. So What? I can't afford to live @ the beach at Malibu, either. WHAAAAHWWHAAAAA.
not rocket science - you just follow the traffic LoLz
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: June 17, 2013 09:42AM
@OP: answer- Stafford, Faquier, Culpeper
thank you
thank you
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
another leftist fool
()
Date: June 17, 2013 10:30AM
The blacks and other mud folks are fast fleeing DC, Fairfax, PWC.....
Why? Because liberal folks like obama have priced you out of the area. These socialist losers always claim to want to help you folks, but you always get the shit end of the stick. Ever wonder why?
You have to move to Spotsylvania, culpepper or King geroge if you want a chance.
Good Luck !!
Why? Because liberal folks like obama have priced you out of the area. These socialist losers always claim to want to help you folks, but you always get the shit end of the stick. Ever wonder why?
You have to move to Spotsylvania, culpepper or King geroge if you want a chance.
Good Luck !!
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
J. Rohn
()
Date: June 17, 2013 11:25AM
> Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
To school. Improve yourself and your income potential.
To school. Improve yourself and your income potential.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: June 17, 2013 12:05PM
J. Rohn Wrote:
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> > Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
>
> To school. Improve yourself and your income
> potential.
Meaningless. Those jobs exist because there is a demand for them, and they won't go away simply because the labor force currently working them gets better educated. Further the idea that we could draw in workers from counties progressively farther out started breaking down when intervening counties started becoming more developed giving those workers a shorter commute to earn almost the same money. The more likely scenario is unless wages start rising significantly at those jobs you will see more illegal rooming houses springing up to pack in people working those low income jobs.
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> > Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
>
> To school. Improve yourself and your income
> potential.
Meaningless. Those jobs exist because there is a demand for them, and they won't go away simply because the labor force currently working them gets better educated. Further the idea that we could draw in workers from counties progressively farther out started breaking down when intervening counties started becoming more developed giving those workers a shorter commute to earn almost the same money. The more likely scenario is unless wages start rising significantly at those jobs you will see more illegal rooming houses springing up to pack in people working those low income jobs.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
J. Rohn
()
Date: June 17, 2013 12:17PM
Bill.N. Wrote:
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> J. Rohn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
> >
> > To school. Improve yourself and your income
> > potential.
>
> Meaningless. Those jobs exist because there is a
> demand for them, and they won't go away simply
> because the labor force currently working them
> gets better educated. Further the idea that we
> could draw in workers from counties progressively
> farther out started breaking down when intervening
> counties started becoming more developed giving
> those workers a shorter commute to earn almost the
> same money. The more likely scenario is unless
> wages start rising significantly at those jobs you
> will see more illegal rooming houses springing up
> to pack in people working those low income jobs.
Those jobs will exist, but that doesn't mean that one cannot educate themselves and make themselves more marketable. As more people are taking themsleves out of the minumim wage market, then the wages will rise based on supply and demand.
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> J. Rohn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
> >
> > To school. Improve yourself and your income
> > potential.
>
> Meaningless. Those jobs exist because there is a
> demand for them, and they won't go away simply
> because the labor force currently working them
> gets better educated. Further the idea that we
> could draw in workers from counties progressively
> farther out started breaking down when intervening
> counties started becoming more developed giving
> those workers a shorter commute to earn almost the
> same money. The more likely scenario is unless
> wages start rising significantly at those jobs you
> will see more illegal rooming houses springing up
> to pack in people working those low income jobs.
Those jobs will exist, but that doesn't mean that one cannot educate themselves and make themselves more marketable. As more people are taking themsleves out of the minumim wage market, then the wages will rise based on supply and demand.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: June 17, 2013 04:02PM
You have more faith in the operations of the market than I do my friend. As it is the market is having a hard enough time absorbing the current level of college graduates and many of these kids are ending up doing the same kinds of jobs they could have done without going to college.
Also I suspect that employers will settle for progressively crappier job candidates for these jobs, and bitch constantly about the quality of the workers they are getting, before they will break down and start actually paying the decent workers more.
Also I suspect that employers will settle for progressively crappier job candidates for these jobs, and bitch constantly about the quality of the workers they are getting, before they will break down and start actually paying the decent workers more.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
1%
()
Date: June 17, 2013 04:26PM
Funny how "equality" and "justice" seem to mean that they want equality of outcome without working for it. Obama's mindless voters.
Where do you go? Far, far away...
Where do you go? Far, far away...
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
waldenthreenet
()
Date: June 28, 2013 11:42AM
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ? new
Posted by: 1% ()
Date: June 17, 2013 04:26PM
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A Solution Possible: Affordable Housing Space Must be Included In Fairfax Revitalization with Retail/Condo For Wealthy People.
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No, we poor people, no matter what is the ethnic heritage, African, Latino, Asian, East European and others, will not be forced out of Fairfax County, VA like the Jews were forced out of Poland Gettos !
Conversation: Affordable Housing today are quality housing appartments that can be built right across from the expensive condo and the new retail space.
History suggest that Affordable Housing strengthen the concept of "multi income neighborhood" as HUD and other federal government agencies encourages now for more than 2 decades.
Affordable Housing provides "tax credits" that can be sold to community banks and other investors such as "pension funds" that reduces their taxes while enable such Affordable Housing to come into existence.
Children of poor people have right to go to public schools in the same neighborhood and same schools as the middle income people.
Ok, let the rich send their kids to private school but most of us who are "poor" (income below 30% of the Median income of the commuinty) can have "equal opportunity" not just as a propaganda but in real everyday life day to day right here in Fairfax Community .
Please, please contact your elected Supervisor.
For anyone who like to see the developers of these "Fairfax Revitalization" include Affordable Housing For the poor, for the students and some elderly as part of "revitalization".
Cafe Twin
Posted by: 1% ()
Date: June 17, 2013 04:26PM
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A Solution Possible: Affordable Housing Space Must be Included In Fairfax Revitalization with Retail/Condo For Wealthy People.
==============================================================================
No, we poor people, no matter what is the ethnic heritage, African, Latino, Asian, East European and others, will not be forced out of Fairfax County, VA like the Jews were forced out of Poland Gettos !
Conversation: Affordable Housing today are quality housing appartments that can be built right across from the expensive condo and the new retail space.
History suggest that Affordable Housing strengthen the concept of "multi income neighborhood" as HUD and other federal government agencies encourages now for more than 2 decades.
Affordable Housing provides "tax credits" that can be sold to community banks and other investors such as "pension funds" that reduces their taxes while enable such Affordable Housing to come into existence.
Children of poor people have right to go to public schools in the same neighborhood and same schools as the middle income people.
Ok, let the rich send their kids to private school but most of us who are "poor" (income below 30% of the Median income of the commuinty) can have "equal opportunity" not just as a propaganda but in real everyday life day to day right here in Fairfax Community .
Please, please contact your elected Supervisor.
For anyone who like to see the developers of these "Fairfax Revitalization" include Affordable Housing For the poor, for the students and some elderly as part of "revitalization".
Cafe Twin
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
Alexander Smith
()
Date: June 28, 2013 12:11PM
waldenthreenet, why on Earth would we want this to happen?
Why trash nice neighborhoods with subsidized housing and then send the ghetto kids to those schools, when they can have their own community some place else?
If you can't afford to live in this area there are PLENTY of other communities close by which are much more affordable. Even if your job is in northern VA, move to MD even if you have to to find more affordable housing. There are many places I would love to live but simply cannot afford it, but I'm not bitching about how "unequal" or unfair it is. Give me a fucking break.
Why trash nice neighborhoods with subsidized housing and then send the ghetto kids to those schools, when they can have their own community some place else?
If you can't afford to live in this area there are PLENTY of other communities close by which are much more affordable. Even if your job is in northern VA, move to MD even if you have to to find more affordable housing. There are many places I would love to live but simply cannot afford it, but I'm not bitching about how "unequal" or unfair it is. Give me a fucking break.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
best solution
()
Date: June 28, 2013 01:22PM
waldenthreenet/cafetwinv/whatever the fuck your idiot name is - the best possible solution for all involved is for you to go ahead and kill yourself. please, think of the children and die already. your mere existence is wasting precious resources. sorry i don't have time to cobble together a shitty clipart montage to explain, but i think you know what i mean.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
me234
()
Date: June 28, 2013 08:54PM
There is a place for people like you to call home: Prince William or Prince George's County.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
isdabajksdbasdkj
()
Date: June 29, 2013 01:56AM
Move to a place you can afford fuckwit.
I busted my ass to get where I am. I came from nothing. Joined the military...and then got out and went to college, working 50 hours a week at night to make ends meet. It took me 5 fucking years of that hell, but I finally graduated. I then busted my ass for years at my day job, living very frugally. I now have a very nice house in FFX in a great neighborhood. Want to live near me? No problem. EARN IT BITCH. Now go move to fucking Stafford you whiner. This isn't the line for free gubment cheese.
I busted my ass to get where I am. I came from nothing. Joined the military...and then got out and went to college, working 50 hours a week at night to make ends meet. It took me 5 fucking years of that hell, but I finally graduated. I then busted my ass for years at my day job, living very frugally. I now have a very nice house in FFX in a great neighborhood. Want to live near me? No problem. EARN IT BITCH. Now go move to fucking Stafford you whiner. This isn't the line for free gubment cheese.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
Shaky Town
()
Date: June 29, 2013 02:06AM
Lazy bums. When I started out in life I had to share a house with four other people. It wasnt a picnic but it motivated me to improve myself and get a real job. But now you expect me the taxpayer to buy you a home next to me so you can drag down my property values with your ten kids and no husband.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
West Virginia
()
Date: June 29, 2013 07:28AM
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Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: June 29, 2013 09:57AM
Waldenthreenet isn't struggling to survive, he lives in a townhouse in Vienna that's owned, not mortgaged.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/29/2013 09:57AM by eesh.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/29/2013 09:57AM by eesh.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
McSnerd
()
Date: June 29, 2013 10:05AM
Anytime I see "Equality" and "Justice" I know I am going to read a story about how some lazy ass wants to go through life coasting on my dime.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
Wondering Eyes
()
Date: June 29, 2013 10:06AM
Makes you wonder where all the McDonald's workers in liberal Westchester County might live.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
so True
()
Date: June 29, 2013 10:18AM
Jess1 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "This expanded poor class, ie, those with median
> income 30% below the median and those who cannot
> afford to shop at these millions of sq ft of
> retail space, and live at these expensive housing
> that are being built must be driven out"
>
> Yeah. So What? I can't afford to live @ the beach
> at Malibu, either. WHAAAAHWWHAAAAA.
^^^^THIS.
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> "This expanded poor class, ie, those with median
> income 30% below the median and those who cannot
> afford to shop at these millions of sq ft of
> retail space, and live at these expensive housing
> that are being built must be driven out"
>
> Yeah. So What? I can't afford to live @ the beach
> at Malibu, either. WHAAAAHWWHAAAAA.
^^^^THIS.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
King of food stamps
()
Date: June 29, 2013 10:25AM
I want a townhouse in Georgetown with a garage and swimming pool. If I dont get it I damn sure want to know why not.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
Gibbs
()
Date: June 29, 2013 10:30AM
"Oh, one easily ignored fact about Fairfax, VA. This county has the largest number of poor people in the State of Virginia, as recently published numbers, with a 10 year update of all 50 States and each county and city within such states)."
Really? You are one ignorant person if you think you have seen poor. You have no idea what poor really is. Poor in this county means a section 8 apartment with swimming pools and club houses. Poor means $500 a month in food stamps. Poor means a free cell phone.
Go to subsahara Africa then come back and talk to me about poor. I have traveled all over the world and have seen real poverty. You have no fucking idea you tool.
The poorest person in Fairfax lives better than most of the population of the world.
Really? You are one ignorant person if you think you have seen poor. You have no idea what poor really is. Poor in this county means a section 8 apartment with swimming pools and club houses. Poor means $500 a month in food stamps. Poor means a free cell phone.
Go to subsahara Africa then come back and talk to me about poor. I have traveled all over the world and have seen real poverty. You have no fucking idea you tool.
The poorest person in Fairfax lives better than most of the population of the world.
Re: Deliver Us From Fairfax Revitalizaton__Where Do Us Poor People Go ?
Posted by:
King of all blacks
()
Date: June 29, 2013 10:32AM
I want one of those condo's at Bryson @ woodland park. I can't afford to live there, but they have subsidized condos!!! Fuck yeah, I'm not paying $2500 a month, fuck that. I will get it for $900 for a three bedroom!! You should see the view and pool!
The white working man is a sucker..er.., I mean, Thanks whitey!
The white working man is a sucker..er.., I mean, Thanks whitey!