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Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: 5x5 ()
Date: July 23, 2008 08:43PM

My fiancee & I planning to move to Fairfax County in November for work and are trying to scout out where to live. I'm a Firefighter/Paramedic & my better half will be working in a tech firm. While we've driven around down here a few times, the county is big and it's not so easy to get a sense of the neighborhoods. I've read the "WORST APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN FAIRFAX?" posts, so I have an idea of where NOT to look. What we're wondering is what neighborhoods would be ideal for a responsible hard-working blue collar/white collar culturally mixed motorcycle-riding couple? Here's what's on our wish list:

- 2 bedroom house w/washer/dryer (preferred). but apartment/condo rental okay too
- Pet friendly
- Garage (we have a motorcycle & car) and a yard would be great
- Prefer a more mixed area (families, ethnically, economically mixed... this kind of area has worked for us in the past).
- Looking in the $1,000-$1,400/month range

So, Fairfaxians, if the above was YOUR wish list, where would you be looking to live? I'm hoping the answers won't predominantly be "outside Fairfax County!" LOL!

Looking forward to protecting your health and home!

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: Expensive Jeans ()
Date: July 23, 2008 08:54PM

Maam where will your husband be working and also yourself?

Please no specifics just general vicinity

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: DirtDigler ()
Date: July 23, 2008 08:57PM

Well, because places like Arlington and Tyson's make you bend over and take it so far up the butt it comes out your mouth... on a $1400 /month budget you could get a 2BR in a few places in falls church (that aren't bad). Or you can do like everyone else and live 30+ miles from work and spend 4hrs a day in your car... depending on where you work. I'd go on craigslist and look for a condo rental in tyson's or arlington. for $1400, you're not getting a charmed 2 BR... you can get a nice 1400 for a 1BR though.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: July 23, 2008 09:00PM

5x5 Wrote:
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> My fiancee & I planning to move to Fairfax County
> in November for work and are trying to scout out
> where to live. I'm a Firefighter/Paramedic & my
> better half will be working in a tech firm. While
> we've driven around down here a few times, the
> county is big and it's not so easy to get a sense
> of the neighborhoods. I've read the "WORST
> APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN FAIRFAX?" posts, so I have
> an idea of where NOT to look. What we're
> wondering is what neighborhoods would be ideal for
> a responsible hard-working blue collar/white
> collar culturally mixed motorcycle-riding couple?
> Here's what's on our wish list:
>
> - 2 bedroom house w/washer/dryer (preferred). but
> apartment/condo rental okay too
> - Pet friendly
> - Garage (we have a motorcycle & car) and a yard
> would be great
> - Prefer a more mixed area (families, ethnically,
> economically mixed... this kind of area has worked
> for us in the past).
> - Looking in the $1,000-$1,400/month range
>
> So, Fairfaxians, if the above was YOUR wish list,
> where would you be looking to live? I'm hoping
> the answers won't predominantly be "outside
> Fairfax County!" LOL!
>
> Looking forward to protecting your health and
> home!


Depending on where the job is in Fairfax County, you might actually do better living in Prince William County and commuting. The housing market in PW is very depressed and you could probably find a house renting in that range. You certainly won't find one in Fairfax...at least, not in a neighborhood you will want to live in.

If you give me an idea of where in FFX you will be working, I can give you some ideas.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: Mike Sorce ()
Date: July 23, 2008 09:56PM

Are you going to work for FXCO Fire & Rescue? If so, you can afford to live a bit outside the Beltway since you will typically be on the road when there is light traffic and then only 10-12 days per month with a few of those on the weekend. I would use your partner's work location as the driver since they will have the bigger driving hassle.

Camden (www.camdenliving.com) has been building a lot of nice apartments with the amenities you mention, but my sense is that typical rent is going to be more like $1800-2100. Since it's just the two of you you don't need to worry about schools and such.

FWIW, my daughter's boyfriend is renting a brand new 2 bedroom unit at Camden Fairfax Corner and it is very nice with the added benefit of being able to walk to the movies, grocery store and restaurants. There is private parking and just about everything that you might want pretty much in the center of FXCO.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: July 23, 2008 10:25PM

Hybla Valley.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: marina davis ()
Date: July 23, 2008 10:29PM

The housing market is certanly very depressed. You will be able find a nice condo in Fairfax by looking short sales, there are great deals, some up to hundred thousands less then regular sales. Give a call, I will send to you some rentals or sales.


Marina Davis
Long&Foster Realtors
cell 301-828-5258
email marinagdavis@comcast.net
Thank you for referring your friends and family to me. I appreciate and value your business.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: YEAH ()
Date: July 24, 2008 12:24AM

Marina - zachem spamit?

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: lucia ()
Date: July 24, 2008 07:49AM

you're better off looking in Prince William County.

you'll get more for your money.

I doubt if you'll find anything nice in FFX in your price range.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: taxpayer ()
Date: July 24, 2008 09:52AM

This listing is in a nice area of Reston between the hospital and Town center:
http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/PropertyDetails.aspx?MlsCompanyID=2&MlsNumber=FX6812869&Add=12001-TALIESIN-PL-#16,RESTON,VA-20190

Rent is listed at 1495 but IMHO that doesn't mean you can't ask for a lower price. Even the kitchen is nice. Good stable employed tenants are important. I like the amenities in reston - nice for a couple. Movies, retaurants, pools, tennis, golf all close by.

Here's another nice one in Reston listed at 1400:
http://homes.longandfoster.com/Real-Estate/PropertyDetails.aspx?MlsCompanyID=2&MlsNumber=FX6804170&Add=2221E-LOVEDALE-LN-#E,RESTON,VA-20191

Go to Long and foster , weichert, coldwell banker, and mcinerney websites and do searches for properties.

Clifton is in another part of the county.
http://www.mcenearney.com/search/listing.php?subloc=adv&listing_type=res&listing_key=90008325558&max_price=950000&min_beds=2&min_baths=1&for_rent=1&county=FAIRFAX&results_per_page=20&order_by=price_low_high&count=1380&page_type=all&page=4

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: Native Virginian ()
Date: July 24, 2008 09:59AM

I would suggest any of the Neighborhoods on Telegraph Road between Rose Hill and Raceway Farms. Low crime, lot's of families (quite a few second and third generation locals). Pretty good schools, convienent shopping.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: July 24, 2008 10:10AM

How about Reston or, whats that area called, Oak Hill?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/24/2008 10:14AM by ITRADE.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: 5x5 ()
Date: July 24, 2008 10:13AM

Thanks to everyone for your great recommendations and feedback!

To answer several questions posed, yes, I have received a conditional job offer from Fairfax County Fire & Rescue. The hiring committee meets in the next month or two to make formal decisions. In terms of where I'll be stationed, if hired I would be in the academies (Fire & EMS) from mid-November through late spring/early summer, likely on a M-F daytime schedule. Most training would be about 1/2 mile south of the Fair Oaks Shopping Mall. After training is completed I could be stationed just about anywhere in the county, and you're correct on the schedule (10 or so days per month). We don't know where she'll be posted yet, but she's prepared to commute, too.

Regarding Marina's post, as I said in my original message, we are looking for rentals, not properties to buy.

We are open to considering outside of FXCO (PW, Louden, MD, etc.). As long as the community is respectful, it can be rural/suburban/working class/whatever. We don't need anything extravagant or "Luxury/high class". A decent, modest place with no bugs is all we ask. With a garage & washer/dryer LOL!

That being said, we're mindful of the issues regarding immigrants/Latinos in PW & Louden Ctys. My fiancee is Latina & I'm part Brasilian. We're both hardworking Americans who put ourselves through school and we contribute personally/professionally to making our neighborhood a great, safe place to live. I can handle myself, but I don't want her to deal with harassment, etc. just because of the color of her skin. If anyone takes offense to what I've said, no disrespect was meant.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: FHC ()
Date: July 24, 2008 10:37AM

5x5 Wrote:
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> Thanks to everyone for your great recommendations
> and feedback!
>
> To answer several questions posed, yes, I have
> received a conditional job offer from Fairfax
> County Fire & Rescue. The hiring committee meets
> in the next month or two to make formal decisions.
> In terms of where I'll be stationed, if hired I
> would be in the academies (Fire & EMS) from
> mid-November through late spring/early summer,
> likely on a M-F daytime schedule. Most training
> would be about 1/2 mile south of the Fair Oaks
> Shopping Mall. After training is completed I
> could be stationed just about anywhere in the
> county, and you're correct on the schedule (10 or
> so days per month). We don't know where she'll be
> posted yet, but she's prepared to commute, too.
>
> Regarding Marina's post, as I said in my original
> message, we are looking for rentals, not
> properties to buy.
>
> We are open to considering outside of FXCO (PW,
> Louden, MD, etc.). As long as the community is
> respectful, it can be rural/suburban/working
> class/whatever. We don't need anything
> extravagant or "Luxury/high class". A decent,
> modest place with no bugs is all we ask. With a
> garage & washer/dryer LOL!
>
> That being said, we're mindful of the issues
> regarding immigrants/Latinos in PW & Louden Ctys.
> My fiancee is Latina & I'm part Brasilian. We're
> both hardworking Americans who put ourselves
> through school and we contribute
> personally/professionally to making our
> neighborhood a great, safe place to live. I can
> handle myself, but I don't want her to deal with
> harassment, etc. just because of the color of her
> skin. If anyone takes offense to what I've said,
> no disrespect was meant.

Bem-vindo - agora nos temos muito mais churrascarias boas en Fairfax do que nos anos passados!

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: DirtDigler ()
Date: July 24, 2008 11:11AM

5x5 Wrote:
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I can handle myself, but I don't want her to deal with
> harassment, etc. just because of the color of her
> skin. If anyone takes offense to what I've said,
> no disrespect was meant.


Then you might want to consider running from this website.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: July 24, 2008 11:34AM

5x5 Wrote:
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>
> That being said, we're mindful of the issues
> regarding immigrants/Latinos in PW & Louden Ctys.
> My fiancee is Latina & I'm part Brasilian. We're
> both hardworking Americans who put ourselves
> through school and we contribute
> personally/professionally to making our
> neighborhood a great, safe place to live. I can
> handle myself, but I don't want her to deal with
> harassment, etc. just because of the color of her
> skin. If anyone takes offense to what I've said,
> no disrespect was meant.


I would suggest checking out the Ben Lomond neighborhood (near Splashdown Waterpark) north of Manassas in PW County. It is multi-cultural and affordable. It has been especially hard hit by foreclosures, so you should be able to find something in that range. It has decent access to I-66 and would not be a huge haul to Fair Oaks.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: Jester ()
Date: July 24, 2008 12:42PM

For a single guy

If price wasn't a barrier, I would live in one of the million dollar Penthouse condos at the Reston Town Center. Plenty of festivals, resturants and bars right there for weekend events. I could walk home from bars and the metro will be close soon for trips and commutes into DC. W&O bike trial is just a block away. The South Lakes or Lake Anne would be great for quick kayaking.

I'd skip Herndon or Oakton. Maybe a nice place in Great Falls or Clifton with some land.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: Jester ()
Date: July 24, 2008 12:46PM

Oops, sorry I didn't see that you were working for the FFX Fire Department.

There are plenty of section 8 housing projects, you might contact the county agency for a list.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: 5x5 ()
Date: July 24, 2008 01:03PM

DirtDigler Wrote:
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> 5x5 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> I can handle myself, but I don't want her to deal
> with
> > harassment, etc. just because of the color of
> her
> > skin. If anyone takes offense to what I've
> said,
> > no disrespect was meant.
>
>
> Then you might want to consider running from this
> website.

LOL! Point taken... Not afraid of humor here and there, especially at my own expense!

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: July 24, 2008 01:04PM

Jester Wrote:
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> Oops, sorry I didn't see that you were working for
> the FFX Fire Department.
>
> There are plenty of section 8 housing projects,
> you might contact the county agency for a list.


Nice set-up and close. Well done.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: July 24, 2008 01:15PM

Jester Wrote:
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> For a single guy
>
> If price wasn't a barrier, I would live in one of
> the million dollar Penthouse condos at the Reston
> Town Center. Plenty of festivals, resturants and
> bars right there for weekend events. I could walk
> home from bars and the metro will be close soon
> for trips and commutes into DC. W&O bike trial is
> just a block away. The South Lakes or Lake Anne
> would be great for quick kayaking.
>
Not a bad idea. Lots of hot MILFs go to RTC to have drinkys with the gal pals at Clyde's, M&S Grill or (if you're lower class) Rio Grande...

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: paddy ()
Date: July 24, 2008 01:27PM

Behind the Centreville Library is a nice place

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: Mrs. K ()
Date: July 24, 2008 03:05PM

I'm not sure what Post Forest is running these days, but it's very close to the academy (walking distance) and 66/Fairlakes/Fairfax Corner. We lived there when it was brand new, and the management was fabulous.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: KayKay ()
Date: July 24, 2008 03:36PM

Townhome community at Lee Hwy. and Union Mill Rd. They are exactly what you described and just happens to be a garage unit for rent in there, can't remember what street though.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: Ol' Dog ()
Date: July 24, 2008 05:00PM

If you got a job with the fire department you should be able to afford most of the county because the mjority of the hose draggers have real jobs on their days off. It is a cushy job.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: 5x5 ()
Date: July 24, 2008 05:12PM

Ol' Dog Wrote:
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> If you got a job with the fire department you
> should be able to afford most of the county
> because the mjority of the hose draggers have real
> jobs on their days off. It is a cushy job.

Are you saying that the position of firefighter/paramedic is not a "real" job? If you think what we do is "cushy", I invite you to come on a ride-along on my unit up in New York City and see how easy the work is.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: Expensive Jeans ()
Date: July 24, 2008 05:13PM

to the op...

re;

Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: paddy (IP Logged)
Date: July 24, 2008 01:27PM


Behind the Centreville Library is a nice place


this person was lying to you. if my memory serves correct, this is NOT a nice area of town...

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: DogsArePeopleToo ()
Date: July 24, 2008 05:16PM

Not sure if this is the case, but if dogs are in the picture, there are dog parks in a few parts of northern Virginia. These are good for when I'm feeling lazy or exhausted and want my dogs to have fun playing with other dogs. I'm not sure which ones are better than others - am in the processing of checking them out.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: 5x5 ()
Date: July 24, 2008 05:21PM

DogsArePeopleToo Wrote:
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> Not sure if this is the case, but if dogs are in
> the picture, there are dog parks in a few parts of
> northern Virginia. These are good for when I'm
> feeling lazy or exhausted and want my dogs to have
> fun playing with other dogs. I'm not sure which
> ones are better than others - am in the processing
> of checking them out.

dogs will be in the future. Will be training at least one search and rescue dog.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: Ol' Dog ()
Date: July 24, 2008 05:42PM

I've been a paramedic and thought we were talking about Fairfax County and not New York. The majority of the county "fire fighters" couldn't hack it in NY. The paramedics "work" the hardest but have become to tool of the Board of Supervisors, with the endorsement of the union, when they started charging for their "service." Emergency medical" services are a money making monopoly for the county. The fire department has a history and reputation of taking vacations at other countries to provide rescue and medical operations. They then come back and put themselves in for medals of valor. The all can’t be heroes. If the county can spare them for services out of the country, we have too many on them county dole.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: 5x5 ()
Date: July 24, 2008 06:39PM

Ol' Dog Wrote:
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> I've been a paramedic and thought we were talking
> about Fairfax County and not New York. The
> majority of the county "fire fighters" couldn't
> hack it in NY. The paramedics "work" the hardest
> but have become to tool of the Board of
> Supervisors, with the endorsement of the union,
> when they started charging for their "service."
> Emergency medical" services are a money making
> monopoly for the county. The fire department has a
> history and reputation of taking vacations at
> other countries to provide rescue and medical
> operations. They then come back and put themselves
> in for medals of valor. The all can’t be heroes.
> If the county can spare them for services out of
> the country, we have too many on them county dole.


I admit that I don't have full working knowledge of the operations and culture of FCFR. But I do have the experience of both volunteer and career EMS & Fire Supression in NYC and other jurisdictions in the Northeast. Currently, I'm in a mostly EMS-only role with FDNY (which also charges for EMS treatment/transport). My reason for leaving is for a better quality of personal and professional life. After years of working in the busiest and one of the most underpaid departments in the country, I did extensive research to find an agency that provides fair compensation & a decent work schedule to its employees (so they may have a life outside of work), offers options for career and personal growth, takes an "all-hazards" approach to serving the community, and is considered innovative in the field of fire/rescue/ems services. FCFR fit the bill for me.

As I said, I can't speak from experience as a citizen of FXCO, or fully know how FCFR is perceived by the community. I do know people who have left NYC to come down to the department that say things are so much better here than in New York. I have also spoke with various people (civilians) down in FXCO who have encouraged me to apply to FCFR and were very supportive of the department.

In terms of the ability to send personnel out of the area on FEMA USAR deployments, I would offer up something to consider. How much in terms of resources (training, equipment, etc.) has the county received for FCFR's participation in VA-TF1? I am certain that the county has benefitted from the additional/advanced training that FCFR personnel have gained from the FEMA USAR system. I would not be surprised if the department has been eligible for and received grant money for training/equipment that primarily benefits the citizens of FXCO based on FCFR's participation in VA-TF1. And on a FEMA deployment, DHS picks up the bill for all expenses.

FEMA sending the USAR teams out of country is based on a priority set by the federal leadership: to provide tactical operations and support in a needed environment. The feds also mobilize our National Guard resources (resources that, like the personnel from FCFR, are primarily supposed to serve domestically) for disasters and incidents (military and otherwise) around the world. Would we say there are too many Natl. Guard members if it is felt they can be spared to serve in Iraq/Afghanistan, or respond to an earthquake in Central/South America?

I can understand a frustration that could be felt by having county employees seemingly not working enough, or feeling there are too many of them around. I don't know if this is helpful to consider, but my understanding is that the staffing on an FCFR engine or ladder is 3-4. In NYC, the number is 5-6 on an engine and 6-7 on a ladder. One could argue that NYC needs the numbers b/c it's so busy & FXCO is not busy enough to justify staffing. From personal experience dealing with working fires, a fire is a fire, and you'll end up needing the same # of resources for a house fire in brooklyn as you would in Oakton.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: Lyle J. ()
Date: July 24, 2008 08:38PM

Ol' Dog Wrote:
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> I've been a paramedic and thought we were talking
> about Fairfax County and not New York. The
> majority of the county "fire fighters" couldn't
> hack it in NY. The paramedics "work" the hardest
> but have become to tool of the Board of
> Supervisors, with the endorsement of the union,
> when they started charging for their "service."
> Emergency medical" services are a money making
> monopoly for the county. The fire department has a
> history and reputation of taking vacations at
> other countries to provide rescue and medical
> operations. They then come back and put themselves
> in for medals of valor. The all can’t be heroes.
> If the county can spare them for services out of
> the country, we have too many on them county dole.


Whats wrong Ol Dog? Couldn't cut the mustard to be depolyed? Sounds to me like you are bitter ya shit bag!!!!

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: Ol' Dog ()
Date: July 26, 2008 02:49AM

5x5 wrote "I do know people who have left NYC to come down to the department that say things are so much better here than in New York. I have also spoke with various people (civilians) down in FXCO who have encouraged me to apply to FCFR and were very supportive of the department."

And you're right. The carpetbaggers from the north who couldn’t cut it came down here to Fairfax and think they have it made because they don’t do anything. There are many fire stations where the “work activities” goes like this:
Get to work
Decide who is going to cook breakfast
Take a truck or ambulance to the store to shop
Come back and cook
Decide who is going to was dishes
Sweep and mop the squad bay
Take out the trash
Shuffle some papers
Decide what’s for lunch ( in some cases where we are going for lunch)
Take a pumper or ambulance to the store to buy lunch
Fix lunch
Decide who is going to put the dishes in the dishwasher
Here is where it gets hard: have a drill consisting of talking about knot tying, how to get to xyz Street, or go out and count hydrants to name a few.
Wash you car
Decide what’s for dinner
Go buy dinner
Put the dishes in the dish washer
Watch TV
Go to bed
Get up and go home.

As I said before, the medics carry the load of work with the excessive number of accidents we have in the county and the pumper drivers follow along, IF THEY AREN’T DOING ANYTHING, JUST TO FUCK UP TRAFFIC with their over response of equipment.

With gas at more than $4.00 a gallon, I don’t think they should be using gas gulping fire vehicles to go shopping. Plus the fire department has too many, battalion, EMS, suppression, equipment, dive, cave-in chiefs, etc. each with a vehicle full of crap that they probably don’t use once a year when they aren’t using the vehicle for personal use.

Yes, Ol’ Dog has been in Fairfax County since 1958 and can remember when the county had a GREAT reputation for safety and services with out the Board of Supervisor trying to tax you for every penny it could. The fire department was a true service until about 15 years ago before the fire union got in bed with the board of supervisors.

Think about it. Doesn't that sound like the beginning of curruption like they have in New York, Philadelphia, Detroit, etc. where the carpetbaggers came from?
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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: art ()
Date: July 26, 2008 09:19PM

Hello,
I would recommend living close to your work. I tried the commute when I first moved here and thought naively that 26 miles each way would be easy.
Then after 2 hours on the road each day or leaving an hour early to get to work for two years, I gave up.

Oakton is nice... near the interstate (66) and Fair Oaks...and the commute to fair oaks in the morning would be easy because you'd be going away from the onslaught of traffic... and there are easy back road.
Welcome to Fairfax!

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: 5x5 ()
Date: July 27, 2008 12:52AM

Ol' Dog Wrote:
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> 5x5 wrote "I do know people who have left NYC to
> come down to the department that say things are so
> much better here than in New York. I have also
> spoke with various people (civilians) down in FXCO
> who have encouraged me to apply to FCFR and were
> very supportive of the department."
>
> And you're right. The carpetbaggers from the
> north who couldn’t cut it came down here to
> Fairfax and think they have it made because they
> don’t do anything. There are many fire stations
> where the “work activities” goes like this:
> Get to work
> Decide who is going to cook breakfast
> Take a truck or ambulance to the store to shop
> Come back and cook
> Decide who is going to was dishes
> Sweep and mop the squad bay
> Take out the trash
> Shuffle some papers
> Decide what’s for lunch ( in some cases where we
> are going for lunch)
> Take a pumper or ambulance to the store to buy
> lunch
> Fix lunch
> Decide who is going to put the dishes in the
> dishwasher
> Here is where it gets hard: have a drill
> consisting of talking about knot tying, how to get
> to xyz Street, or go out and count hydrants to
> name a few.
> Wash you car
> Decide what’s for dinner
> Go buy dinner
> Put the dishes in the dish washer
> Watch TV
> Go to bed
> Get up and go home.
>
> As I said before, the medics carry the load of
> work with the excessive number of accidents we
> have in the county and the pumper drivers follow
> along, IF THEY AREN’T DOING ANYTHING, JUST TO FUCK
> UP TRAFFIC with their over response of equipment.
>
> With gas at more than $4.00 a gallon, I don’t
> think they should be using gas gulping fire
> vehicles to go shopping. Plus the fire department
> has too many, battalion, EMS, suppression,
> equipment, dive, cave-in chiefs, etc. each with a
> vehicle full of crap that they probably don’t use
> once a year when they aren’t using the vehicle for
> personal use.
>
> Yes, Ol’ Dog has been in Fairfax County since 1958
> and can remember when the county had a GREAT
> reputation for safety and services with out the
> Board of Supervisor trying to tax you for every
> penny it could. The fire department was a true
> service until about 15 years ago before the fire
> union got in bed with the board of supervisors.
>
> Think about it. Doesn't that sound like the
> beginning of curruption like they have in New
> York, Philadelphia, Detroit, etc. where the
> carpetbaggers came from?

My reason for applying to FCFR is for a better quality personal and professional life, to have the opportunity to serve a diverse community, and to be fairly and appropriately compensated for the work I do, the risks I take to do it, and the education, skills, and experience I am required and expected to acquire and maintain. If you think that FCFR is overstaffed, its personnel are overpaid, and it has too many resources that are utilized inappropriately, then I ask what have you and are you doing to change it to meet the standards you feel are correct?

Like I said in an earlier post, I do not pretend to know the full history and workings of FXFR & FXCO. I can tell you this: the EMS unions have very little power up in NYC. While there has been corruption in the past, it has been WITHIN the union, not the union in cahoots with the department or the city council or mayor. We should be so lucky to have that kind of relationship. If we did, perhaps then as a medic I wouldn't be paid $15,000 less than an NYC sanitation worker, or $20,000 less than one of my FDNY brothers in fire supression. In fact, the starting salary for a FF/Medic w/FCFR is higher than the top salary I would make as a medic if I stayed with FDNY for 25 years. FDNY is the only department in the country where it is a promotion from Paramedic to Firefighter, and not the other way around. In NYC, we do around 1.3 million EMS runs, verses several hundred thousand fire suppression runs every year. We don’t respond out of stations; we have to sit on a strategically-chosen street corner and wait to be dispatched to a call.

I just got home from my second mandated double shift. I have a 3rd in a row tomorrow. I have been working in Fire/Rescue/EMS for over twenty years. I have lived through just about every call you can imagine. I revived a friend of 13 years in cardiac arrest, only to have the incompetent hospital ER team kill him off. I have been assaulted, punched, kicked, had knives and guns pulled on me, had patients injure me, had idiots fly planes into buildings on me, seen partners killed in the line of duty, some with a very quick end, some a slow painful progression, and have been exposed to some pretty nasty materials.

You can imply (indirectly or unintentionally) that I am following in the footsteps of carpetbaggers by wanting to join FCFR in order to do less work, or because I couldn’t cut it. I’ve personally done more calls in one month than some whole departments do in a year. In my professional and volunteer career (yes, I do this full time AND volunteer actively as the Chief of a local volunteer EMS/Rescue department), I’ve probably done more calls than most do in their career in any part of the country. None of what I’ve said is because I am trying to brag, only to give you a sense of who I am and what I’ve experienced. And while I don’t think anyone would blame me for wanting to finish out my career in a department where I would do less work, that is absolutely not my intention. I do this because I love it and feel it is my purpose. And I was raised to work hard, do your best, and act with integrity.

I don’t think that fits the profile of someone who “can’t cut it”.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Date: July 27, 2008 08:13AM

5x5

Regarding the traffic issue, if you are working 2nd or 3rd shift, traffic won't be a problem for you. Rush hour here pretty much adheres to a 9 to 5 day. While there is traffic all of the time, the time it is really impossible is during your typical morning and evening rush hours.

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Re: Where would YOU live in Fairfax County?
Posted by: Ol' Dog. ()
Date: July 27, 2008 08:52AM

I am bitter!! I was a volunteer and wanted to be paid but I could not pass the 400 question psychiatric eval. I want to be on the FEMA and VATF-1 teams....Please give me a second chance.

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