why do more than 80% of Koreans in Fairfax/Arlington support McCain instead of Obama?

that's what my Korean cleaner was telling me...(he was quoting the Korean-American newspaper) Strangely, the same poll also shows a little more than
60% of Koreans living in California support Obama.

What can cause such a big difference? Is Fairfax/Arlington that different
than California for Koreans? (only those Koreans who were eligible to vote
this year were polled)

No doubt because they came here to flee the kind of socialist totalitarianism that Obama espouses.

Because they know if they torture McCain he will do whatever they wish.

Many of them are small business owners or aspire to be. They believe Republicans will leave them alone.

Quick question -- are the Koreans here hyper anti-Communists in the same way the Vietnamese and Cubans are? If so, I'm sure they view Democrats as weak on North Korea.

Final question- will our Koreans actually bother to vote? I've heard they have terrible turnout rates overall -- even lower than Hispanics.

I suspect the local South Asian community voted in droves for Webb in 2006. :-P Not sure what way they will swing this year.

I'm guessing the Vietnamese are fairly Republican. The Chinese probably trend Democratic.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/11/2008 03:42PM by formerhick76.

they dont know anything about politics and see more Mccain signs so they figure he is good

There are way more BHO signs and bumper stickers McCain's.


Theyareconfused Wrote:
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> they dont know anything about politics and see
> more Mccain signs so they figure he is good

more signs= better and more supported canidate so obviusly if obama has more signs he will win

formerhick76 Wrote:
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> Many of them are small business owners or aspire
> to be. They believe Republicans will leave them
> alone.
>
> Quick question -- are the Koreans here hyper
> anti-Communists in the same way the Vietnamese and
> Cubans are? If so, I'm sure they view Democrats as
> weak on North Korea.
>
> Final question- will our Koreans actually bother
> to vote? I've heard they have terrible turnout
> rates overall -- even lower than Hispanics.
>
> I suspect the local South Asian community voted in
> droves for Webb in 2006. :-P Not sure what way
> they will swing this year.
>
> I'm guessing the Vietnamese are fairly Republican.
> The Chinese probably trend Democratic.

Pretty spot on. Koreans do not closely follow politics. They are ardently anti-communist/pro-capitalist, and so they vote for whoever the Republican candidate is. Socially, Koreans are fundamentalist Christians, so once more, they lean towards the Republican party.

Younger Koreans of voting age have laser-beam like focus/attention towards academics and post-academic careers. This demographic simply does not vote.

Koreans are dog-eating monkeys.

I think Asians as a whole don't seem to be excited about Obama. Many of them voted for Hillary in the primaries.

Many Asians have strong family values and socially traditional. They are strongly anti-socialist and pro free market. They are not benefiting from affirmative ations and do not want their taxes increased. They don't see eye to eye with Obama.

As noted, Many Koreans are small business owners.

Black guys like to rob small businesses, often murdering the proprietor(s).

Obama is a black guy.

Any further questions?

Koreans, love em or hate em, are very independent and self suffecient and unlike many BHO voters, VERY proud and grateful towards America. Obama appeals to poverty stricken welfare basket cases, people with racial agendas, die hard lib crybabies, and delusional academics/students who've never worked hard for anything in their lives....

Its because Koreans are very mindful of a strong military policy.
They are fully aware also, that Democrats will always roll over and
play dead on that issue.

Koreandunker Wrote:
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> formerhick76 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Many of them are small business owners or
> aspire
> > to be. They believe Republicans will leave them
> > alone.
> >
> > Quick question -- are the Koreans here hyper
> > anti-Communists in the same way the Vietnamese
> and
> > Cubans are? If so, I'm sure they view Democrats
> as
> > weak on North Korea.
> >
> > Final question- will our Koreans actually
> bother
> > to vote? I've heard they have terrible turnout
> > rates overall -- even lower than Hispanics.
> >
> > I suspect the local South Asian community voted
> in
> > droves for Webb in 2006. :-P Not sure what way
> > they will swing this year.
> >
> > I'm guessing the Vietnamese are fairly
> Republican.
> > The Chinese probably trend Democratic.
>
> Pretty spot on. Koreans do not closely follow
> politics. They are ardently
> anti-communist/pro-capitalist, and so they vote
> for whoever the Republican candidate is. Socially,
> Koreans are fundamentalist Christians, so once
> more, they lean towards the Republican party.
>
> Younger Koreans of voting age have laser-beam like
> focus/attention towards academics and
> post-academic careers. This demographic simply
> does not vote.

Perhaps you could explain why Ilryong Moon is a democrat who collects over $100,000 from Koreans to run for school board? He ALWAYS votes with the democrats, including things that the Asian community doesn't support, like Affirmative action at TJ, dumber and dumber math programs, etc.

What's up with that?

barack 1 hit wonder Wrote:
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> Koreans, love em or hate em, are very independent
> and self suffecient and unlike many BHO voters,
> VERY proud and grateful towards America. Obama
> appeals to poverty stricken welfare basket cases,
> people with racial agendas, die hard lib
> crybabies, and delusional academics/students
> who've never worked hard for anything in their
> lives....

Why does the Asian community generally vote for democrats? Why does the Jewish community? Neither of those groups benefit from welfare or affirmative action, nor do they support the liberals dumbing down of education. So why do they vote for democrats?

Obama is NOT black....... at least not in the minds of the majority of Korean/Chinese/Japanese-Americans


coffin Wrote:
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> Obama is a black guy.
>

Neen Wrote:
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>
> Why does the Asian community generally vote for
> democrats? Why does the Jewish community?
> Neither of those groups benefit from welfare or
> affirmative action, nor do they support the
> liberals dumbing down of education. So why do
> they vote for democrats?

Because smug WASP Republicans like you oppressed them for years.

My Jewish grandfather couldn't buy the house of his choice because the covenants prohibited it.

coffin Wrote:
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> Neen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Why does the Asian community generally vote for
> > democrats? Why does the Jewish community?
> > Neither of those groups benefit from welfare or
> > affirmative action, nor do they support the
> > liberals dumbing down of education. So why do
> > they vote for democrats?
>
> Because smug WASP Republicans like you oppressed
> them for years.
>
> My Jewish grandfather couldn't buy the house of
> his choice because the covenants prohibited it.

Gee, and my grandfather couldn't buy a house because he couldn't afford one, doctors in small towns made nothing back in the day. My Irish great grandfather couldn't buy a house because no one wanted the Irish in their neighborhood. My Indian ancestors were driven from GA to OK, Trail of Tears and death of thousands. The old days were awful.

When was the period of Korean oppression? I don't recall that. But loving history, I'd be interesting in learning about it.

wow... this is like the most racist thread to date.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Right you are, Gravis.

One prediction: Barely 40% of the posters here will themselves even bother to vote this fall.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2008 12:46PM by Don Carr.

Gooks love nigger jokes!

i think we should talk about trying to sway the koreans oppinons away from mccain and tell them blacks are bad people... koreans r not understanding this

Can't we all just get along?

Your jewish grandfather would have made a nice lampshade

this post was obviously started by and ignorant korean who is confused why fairfax circle is round and also why he should vote for mccain... Ahh the two main questions for them to always wonder

bookfish Wrote:
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> Obama is NOT black....... at least not in the
> minds of the majority of
> Korean/Chinese/Japanese-Americans
>
What do they think he is? Why can't they tell that he is Black?

Why do more than 80% of Koreans in Fairfax/Arlington support McCain instead of Obama?

Easy! More than 80% of Koreans are Republicans.

A lot of Korean Americans will not vote for Mr. Obama because he is named
after a town in Japan

A lot of Korean Americans will not vote for Mr. Obama because he is named
after a town in Japan.

It's an easy answer: one is a BLOOD and the other is a CRIP(Red and Blue
don't mix).

Fairfax for Obama Wrote:
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>

There are too many sickos out there. Obama is as much an American
Socialist as any other group or individual. He's a community organizer
who's looking out for the little guys. When he becomes president, he will
appoint Rep. Marx-in Waters to a department that will head the
nationalization of small businesses as well as big oyl.

America in 2008 is still a mean country. We need Mr. O to soften her up.
CHANGE.

Guy Wire Wrote:
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> No doubt because they came here to flee the kind
> of socialist totalitarianism that Obama espouses.

A big +1 to this observation

Most immigrants fully appreciate the value of hard work; and that's why they're
most likely to vote for a candidate who will not advocate redestribution of
wealth through socialism.

Because gooks hate niggers. Even if it's only a half nigger.

Because Koreans, as well as a lot of other people from former Eastern Bloc countries, know first-hand what it is like to live under the spectre of socialism/communism.

VOTING for it (Obama) is antithetical to every fiber of their being.

PresaCanario Wrote:
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> Because Koreans, as well as a lot of other people
> from former Eastern Bloc countries, know
> first-hand what it is like to live under the
> spectre of socialism/communism.
>
> VOTING for it (Obama) is antithetical to every
> fiber of their being.


This has nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with Obama being black.

This has nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with Obama being black.

That's right. And blacks rob Korean stores. Who can blame Koreans for hating them?

DMG Wrote:
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> This has nothing to do with socialism and
> everything to do with Obama being black.
>
> That's right. And blacks rob Korean stores. Who
> can blame Koreans for hating them?


Okay. You made your point. You are a racist prick blinded by your hatred of others. You are so tough, put on your Klan robe and scream "nigger" in Anacostia, you fucking pussy.

WashingToneLocian you are a cock-sucking nigger fag. Fuck Anacostia. It's what the whole fucking country would be like if subhuman niggers didn't keep their own population down by killing each other.

DMG may be racist but you have to admit that blacks DO rob Koreans.

Someone made the point earlier and it is valid. Most Koreans in the US are small business owners, and it is clear from policies advocated by the Democrats that under a fully Democrat controlled Congress and President, things will get much worse for small business owners.

All of them are being hurt by rising commodity prices as well, and honestly, the Democrats argued the last time they controlled Congress that drilling for new oil to alleviate the cost of gas at the pump was pointless - and this was 15 to 20 years ago. SO just think, if we had allowed drilling back then when they had this discussion the first time, it is likely we might not be having it right now. But still, lets keep pushing the idea that only by reducing consumption of all products can we affect the prices in any meaningful way. Sure, supply and demand are great concepts, but if all you ever focus on is reducing demand eventually you will still run out of supply. If you never develop new supplies, you are still dependent on your current suppliers.... And I am sorry, but windmills are nowhere near efficient enough, or generate enough meaningful power to even compare to one nuclear power plant. And the amount of space the windmills will take up (in Texas) would be better served with high capacity nuclear plants.

Even using coal to create liquid fuels, or enhance existing fuels would be better than turning corn into fuel :) I still remember all the times the Dems were telling us we had a global food crisis (heck we still do) and yet we are going to turn corn into gas...

Registered Voter Wrote:
>> Most Koreans in the US are small business owners


I would love to see the source of this so-called fact. Is that really a true statistic, or is it just some stereotyped observation based on stuff you saw on TV. Let's see the source.

I can definitely believe that a higher percentage are small biz owners compared to other ethnic groups, but MOST.... no way I'm believing that one without some evidence.

And they sue Korean dry cleaners for 80 million dollars

Joe Mammy Wrote:
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> DMG may be racist but you have to admit that
> blacks DO rob Koreans.

Koreans all stick together in everything they do. All it takes is for a relatively large group to back Mccain, and most will follow suit.

Koreans are also very materialistic. They must have fancy cars, Louis Vuitton bags, etc. Mccain digging for oil helps their bottom line in gas prices. It costs a lot of money to buy premium gas for all their luxury cars.

Neen Wrote:
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> coffin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Neen Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > > Why does the Asian community generally vote
> for
> > > democrats? Why does the Jewish community?
> > > Neither of those groups benefit from welfare
> or
> > > affirmative action, nor do they support the
> > > liberals dumbing down of education. So why
> do
> > > they vote for democrats?
> >
> > Because smug WASP Republicans like you
> oppressed
> > them for years.
> >
> > My Jewish grandfather couldn't buy the house of
> > his choice because the covenants prohibited it.
>
> Gee, and my grandfather couldn't buy a house
> because he couldn't afford one, doctors in small
> towns made nothing back in the day. My Irish
> great grandfather couldn't buy a house because no
> one wanted the Irish in their neighborhood. My
> Indian ancestors were driven from GA to OK, Trail
> of Tears and death of thousands. The old days
> were awful.
>
> When was the period of Korean oppression? I don't
> recall that. But loving history, I'd be
> interesting in learning about it.


DON"T FORGET THE SPANISH CONQUEST OF NEW MEXICO, ARIZONA, UTAH, ENSLAVEMENT AND KILLING OF 100's OF 1,000's NATIVE AMERICANS...nobody really seems to remember that...

Oppressed by WASP Republicans? Even someone with your limited perspicacity and hitorical ignorance should know that the 1964 Civil Rights Act would never have passed without the support Republicans in Congress. Compare and contrast how the Republicans then supported a Democrat president with the gridlock going on in Congress today. While you're at it you may even learn some history.

God bless Amerika! Lude A. Kris behavior is not gonna get us anywhere.

Let's get together and make everything alright!

The Japs tortured the Koreans in the early 1900s

Japan ruled the waves at one point.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> >> Most Koreans in the US are small business
> owners
>
>
> I would love to see the source of this so-called
> fact. Is that really a true statistic, or is it
> just some stereotyped observation based on stuff
> you saw on TV. Let's see the source.
>
> I can definitely believe that a higher percentage
> are small biz owners compared to other ethnic
> groups, but MOST.... no way I'm believing that one
> without some evidence.

It appears that any time a post is made that you don't agree with, your first tactic is "show me the quote where that is true."

The internet is full of facts and figures, if you want to make a case for whatever your point is (other than the fact that you don't like the assumption or statement being presented) then go ahead and post YOUR facts showing I (or others) am/are making a mis-statement. Or even better, if you would like, presume an "In my opinion..." in front of everything I post (unless I post facts with it) and that should satisfy your need to deal with "factual" information.

I made a statement, I did not make a statement that made it an explicit "fact" like: "As a matter of fact, most Koreans are small business owners", or "It is a fact that most Koreans are small business owners." If I was stating a "fact", other than from my perception of life, then I will gladly post whatever information I can find.

You appear to be one of these people that want to change the focus of a given topic rather than add anything to the discussion.

From knowing many Koreans (I used to live in Annandale and many of the ones I was friendly with were business owners) I can totally understand why they would support McCain. Unlike some of the minorities in America, they don't act like (or perceive themselves as) Victims. So it is highly unlikely that they identify with how these other minorities feel. Additionally, many of the families that do own businesses (my opinion based on my review of the issues) will be hurt by increased taxes on "the rich" being proposed since their family incomes tend to fall in the areas that Obama wants to increase taxes on. Also they don't suffer from "white guilt" that seems to be one of the biggest reasons Barrack Obama is doing as well as he is amongst white voters - considering his lack of experience, and strong liberal background.

You have anything constructive to add to that? Or perhaps you just want to point out something else irrelevant to the topic?

Registered Voter Wrote:
>>> You have anything constructive to add to that?

I just think it is strange to claim that someone has a "good" and "valid" point when what they are saying is not true.



>> Or perhaps you just want to point out something else irrelevant to the topic?

It is not irrelevant to ask someone to back up their claim with evidence. Especially when you're the one who brought it up in the first place.

So you have nothing to add to the actual topic. You just want to point out your perceived flaws with what people are saying. Brilliant :)

Do you have any insight on why Koreans in the area would or wouldn't support McCain? Or are you just posting to troll?

Registered Voter Wrote:
>>> So you have nothing to add to the actual topic.

I'm adding to the topic by pointing out that what you are saying is incorrect.



>>> Do you have any insight on why Koreans in the area would or wouldn't support McCain?

No. But unlike you, I'm not going to make up stuff to get my point across.



>>> Or are you just posting to troll?

Asking you to back up your argument is not "trolling". It was an honest request to see if you had a valid point. And obviously you did not, otherwise you would be addressing the original question.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> >>> So you have nothing to add to the actual
> topic.
>
> I'm adding to the topic by pointing out that what
> you are saying is incorrect.
>

No, you expressed your opinion as well since you said nothing factual to back up your "questions" that what I was saying was not something you believed. If you don't believe it, that is fine. If you want to point out something that I said was incorrect, then feel free to prove your point. If you want to express your opinion on the topic that would probably be better.

>
> >>> Do you have any insight on why Koreans in the
> area would or wouldn't support McCain?
>
> No. But unlike you, I'm not going to make up
> stuff to get my point across.
>

No, unlike many posters, you are just posting to troll. That is much of the definition of troll on BB/forums.

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

"An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2]"

If you aren't expressing your opinion on the topic, and all you do is come in to question other people's posts or opinions, with the then "stated" objective of making them prove you are somehow wrong in asserting they cannot possibly be right, you are trolling.

> >>> Or are you just posting to troll?
>
> Asking you to back up your argument is not
> "trolling". It was an honest request to see if
> you had a valid point. And obviously you did not,
> otherwise you would be addressing the original
> question.

You made it appear as if I was stating a fact, and with that in mind you then made a "request" for me to prove my "fact". If I then restate what I am saying to clarify my point, you deride that for some other reason. You never address the topic. If you want to refute what I am saying as factual and be on topic you would need a point of reference such as the fact that you know "why do more than 80% of Koreans in Fairfax/Arlington support McCain instead of Obama?" What you did by definition, is "troll" by stating something irrelevant to the topic. And again, I did address the original question, you still have not.

I am pretty sure we could go through many of the threads here and see the exact same behavior repeated over and over again on your part.

You were wrong- time to get over it.



Registered Voter Wrote:
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Registered Voter Wrote:
> > >>> So you have nothing to add to the actual
> > topic.
> >
> > I'm adding to the topic by pointing out that
> what
> > you are saying is incorrect.
> >
>
> No, you expressed your opinion as well since you
> said nothing factual to back up your "questions"
> that what I was saying was not something you
> believed. If you don't believe it, that is fine.
> If you want to point out something that I said was
> incorrect, then feel free to prove your point. If
> you want to express your opinion on the topic that
> would probably be better.
>
> >
> > >>> Do you have any insight on why Koreans in
> the
> > area would or wouldn't support McCain?
> >
> > No. But unlike you, I'm not going to make up
> > stuff to get my point across.
> >
>
> No, unlike many posters, you are just posting to
> troll. That is much of the definition of troll on
> BB/forums.
>
> Wikipedia:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
>
> "An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet
> slang, is someone who posts controversial and
> usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an
> online community, such as an online discussion
> forum or chat room, with the intention of baiting
> other users into an emotional response[1] or to
> generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2]"
>
> If you aren't expressing your opinion on the
> topic, and all you do is come in to question other
> people's posts or opinions, with the then "stated"
> objective of making them prove you are somehow
> wrong in asserting they cannot possibly be right,
> you are trolling.
>
> > >>> Or are you just posting to troll?
> >
> > Asking you to back up your argument is not
> > "trolling". It was an honest request to see if
> > you had a valid point. And obviously you did
> not,
> > otherwise you would be addressing the original
> > question.
>
> You made it appear as if I was stating a fact, and
> with that in mind you then made a "request" for me
> to prove my "fact". If I then restate what I am
> saying to clarify my point, you deride that for
> some other reason. You never address the topic. If
> you want to refute what I am saying as factual and
> be on topic you would need a point of reference
> such as the fact that you know "why do more than
> 80% of Koreans in Fairfax/Arlington support McCain
> instead of Obama?" What you did by definition, is
> "troll" by stating something irrelevant to the
> topic. And again, I did address the original
> question, you still have not.
>
> I am pretty sure we could go through many of the
> threads here and see the exact same behavior
> repeated over and over again on your part.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> You were wrong- time to get over it.
>

You're a troll, deal with it :) I am sure they have classes for it somewhere near you.

Asains small narrow eyes may not allow them to properly view the ballot.

HAHAHA