Radiophile Wrote:
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> From Politico
> October 09, 2008
> Categories: Newspapers
>
> Two kinds of fraud
> "Acorn" may not exactly be a household word, but
> it was on the cover of one of the newspapers I
> read in hard copy today, so it seemed worth
> getting into a marginal story that the GOP is
> trying to make central.
>
> The key distinction here is between voter fraud
> and voter registration fraud, one of which is
> truly dangerous, the other a petty crime.
>
> The former would be, say, voting the cemeteries or
> stuffing the ballot boxes. This has happened
> occasionally in American history, though I can
> think of recent instances only in rare local
> races. Practically speaking, this can most easily
> be done by whoever is actually administering the
> election, which is why partisan observers
> carefully oversee the vote-counting process.
>
> The latter is putting the names of fake voters on
> the rolls, something that happens primarily when
> organizations, like Acorn, pay contractors for new
> voter registrations. That can be a crime, and it
> messes up the voter files, but there's virtually
> no evidence these imaginary people then vote in
> November. The current stories about Acorn don't
> even allege a plan to affect the November vote.
>
> So the New York Post's story leads:
>
> Two Ohio voters, including Domino's pizza worker
> Christopher Barkley, claimed yesterday that they
> were hounded by the community-activist group ACORN
> to register to vote several times, even though
> they made it clear they'd already signed up.
>
> There's not even an allegation that the guy was
> being pressed to vote twice.
>
> Acorn, meanwhile, is denouncing the raid on its
> Nevada office as a political stunt and says it had
> tried to alert authorities to its own bad
> registrations.
>
> And Acorn is taking credit for registering 1.3
> million new voters, which is a lot, though the
> fake ones, of course, along with being against the
> law, are worthless.
The only thing you prove with this is that you can cut and paste an entry into Ben Smith's blog onto this site. Congratulations. Unfortunately, He is as mistaken as you are.
Let's look at some Nevada laws applicable in these cases.
Voting Fraud: NRS 293.780 Voting more than once at same election.
1. A person who is entitled to vote shall not vote or attempt to vote more than once at the same election. Any person who votes or attempts to vote twice at the same election is guilty of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.
(d) A category D felony is a felony for which a court shall sentence a convicted person to imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 4 years. In addition to any other penalty, the court may impose a fine of not more than $5,000, unless a greater fine is authorized or required by statute.
NRS 293.800 Acts concerning registration of voters; violations of laws governing elections; crimes by public officers.
1. A person who, for himself or another person, willfully gives a false answer or answers to questions propounded to him by the registrar or field registrar of voters relating to the information called for by the application to register to vote, or who willfully falsifies his application in any particular, or who violates any of the provisions of the election laws of this State, or knowingly encourages another person to violate those laws is guilty of a category E felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.
(e) A category E felony is a felony for which a court shall sentence a convicted person to imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 4 years. Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (b) of subsection 1 of NRS 176A.100, upon sentencing a person who is found guilty of a category E felony, the court shall suspend the execution of the sentence and grant probation to the person upon such conditions as the court deems appropriate. Such conditions of probation may include, but are not limited to, requiring the person to serve a term of confinement of not more than 1 year in the county jail. In addition to any other penalty, the court may impose a fine of not more than $5,000, unless a greater penalty is authorized or required by statute.
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We've looked at OH earlier, but apparently you and Mr. Smith need some more education on the laws governing "voter registration fraud" and "voter fraud."
So, here is OH as it seems you are unable to find it for yourself.
3599.11 False voter registration - registration forms.
(A) No person shall knowingly register or make application or attempt to register in a precinct in which the person is not a qualified voter; or knowingly aid or abet any person to so register; or attempt to register or knowingly induce or attempt to induce any person to so register; or knowingly impersonate another or write or assume the name of another, real or fictitious, in registering or attempting to register; or by false statement or other unlawful means procure, aid, or attempt to procure the erasure or striking out on the register or duplicate list of the name of a qualified elector therein; or knowingly induce or attempt to induce a registrar or other election authority to refuse registration in a precinct to an elector thereof; or knowingly swear or affirm falsely upon a lawful examination by or before any registering officer; or make, print, or issue any false or counterfeit certificate of registration or knowingly alter any certificate of registration.
No person shall knowingly register under more than one name or knowingly induce any person to so register.
No person shall knowingly make any false statement on any form for registration or change of registration or upon any application or return envelope for an absent voter’s ballot.
Whoever violates this division is guilty of a felony of the fifth degree.
more here:
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/3599.11
3599.12 Illegal voting.
(A) No person shall do any of the following:
(1) Vote or attempt to vote in any primary, special, or general election in a precinct in which that person is not a legally qualified elector;
(2) Vote or attempt to vote more than once at the same election by any means, including voting or attempting to vote both by absent voter’s ballots under division (G) of section 3503.16 of the Revised Code and by regular ballot at the polls at the same election, or voting or attempting to vote both by absent voter’s ballots under division (G) of section 3503.16 of the Revised Code and by absent voter’s ballots under Chapter 3509. or armed service absent voter’s ballots under Chapter 3511. of the Revised Code at the same election;
(3) Impersonate or sign the name of another person, real or fictitious, living or dead, and vote or attempt to vote as that other person in any such election;
(4) Cast a ballot at any such election after objection has been made and sustained to that person’s vote;
(5) Knowingly vote or attempt to vote a ballot other than the official ballot.
(B) Whoever violates division (A) of this section is guilty of a felony of the fourth degree.
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So, I still have to ask, after seeing the crimes defined and their associated sentencing guidelines, do you still cling to the "one is no big deal, the other is a big deal" statement? It is a pretty simple question that you can't seem to answer.