Posted by: Recap ()
Date: July 09, 2011 02:43PM

'If They Called the Cops, I'm Screwed': Fight Participant Testifies in Rose Hill Murder Trial
Correction: This article originally stated that Wyatt Campbell said, "If they called the cops, I'm screwed." Randy Taylor actually said that at trial, and the article has been corrected to reflect that. Kingstowne Patch regrets the error.
Randy Taylor, 21, testified that he was hanging out with Campbell the night he died, and later joined him in a fight.
Taylor's testimony preceded accusations from the defendant's attorney that he would lie on the stand to cover up an alleged drug-dealing relationship between Taylor; Campbell; and a third man who drove Campbell to the hospital after the fight and, according to the defense, participated in it.
Patch is currently declining to identify the third man because he is being accused of crimes, and it's not clear yet whether he is a minor. Tony Perez-
These accusations were made with the jury outside the room because Judge Brett A. Kassabian had excluded mention of alleged drug dealing, ruling that drugs were not involved in Campbell's death.
On October 14, in a time period identified between 9:30 p.m. and 10:15 p.m., Taylor drove Campbell to Rose Hill to drop him off. First, though, they stopped at the 7-Eleven in the Rose Hill Shopping Center so Taylor could buy Campbell cigarettes.
According to Taylor, Campbell didn't have his identification on him, and he looked too young to buy without one.
As the two pulled up to the 7-Eleven, Taylor said, the defendant's older brother approached Campbell, still in the car.
"Did you get my brother?" Taylor testified hearing the man ask Campbell. According to a witness statement to police, Campbell and two other boys, pretending to be police officers, had robbed the defendant and some of his friends.
Taylor then said the defendant's older brother punched Campbell in the side of the head. Asked by Greenberg to explain how the brother punched Campbell, Taylor offered to demonstrate.
"I'm going to play it out just like Hollywood for you, man," he said.
With the defendant still in another car, Campbell and the older brother began yelling at each other.
"It was just like the heat of the moment," Taylor said. "Everybody was talking crap."
Taylor didn't want to fight in front of the 7-Eleven for several reasons: he was on probation for a felony offense, he knew the store had surveillance cameras, and there was a small amount of marijuana in the car.
"People are going to call the cops there," he testified.
Taylor tried to maneuver his car out of the parking lot. After being initially blocked by the defendant's brother, he succeeded, and drove to Campbell's grandmother's home, in a nearby apartment complex. Taylor said it was clear the encounter with the defendant and his brother was not finished.
"An example needs to be set," he testified.
Campbell and Taylor began walking from Campbell's grandmother's home to a sidestreet behind the 7-Eleven, a distance of about a block-and-a-half.
Greenberg pressed Taylor on whether Campbell was carrying a golf club, because a broken golf club was found at the scene of the crime. Taylor said he never saw what Campbell was carrying, because Campbell was behind him the whole time.
Taylor eventually conceded that Campbell was in front of him when they returned to the 7-Eleven to find out if the police had been called.
If they called the cops, I'm screwed," Taylor said at trial, then added that he just wanted to know. He said he still did not see if Campbell had a golf club.
Soon after that, the two friends met with the brothers behind the convenience store. Taylor punched the older brother, who he says was aiming a toy gun at him. The brother responded by hitting Taylor with the gun.
"It was one of my longer fights," Taylor said.
Meanwhile, Taylor said, he saw the defendant on top of Campbell, then fighting with Campbell against a fence. Still, Taylor said he didn't see much of the other half of the fight.
"It's like television," he said. "All you're seeing is your opponent."
Eventually, another friend of Campbell's arrived. While the defense maintains this third man helped throughout the fight, Taylor said that he couldn't remember how long his friend, who is about 6 feet tall, weighing between 250 and 300 pounds, according to Taylor, was there.
As the fight ended, this third man took Campbell to the hospital. Although Taylor said he never saw the defendant stab Campbell, he testified that Campbell seemed short of breath.
"This n**** hit me in my lung," Taylor recalled Campbell saying to him as he left, using a racial slur.
After the fight, Taylor said, he went to a friend's house, changed clothes, and went to the hospital. Greenberg, in arguments with the jury out of the room, said that Taylor had used the time after the fight to hide a safe containing marijuana.
The defense seized on several seeming discrepancies between Taylor's testimony at the trial and earlier statements to police.
Taylor initially said he only talked to the third man, briefly, at the hospital, but when confronted by a call between him and the man after the fight, he acknowledged that they talked briefly.
Taylor also did not have an explanation for why his phone was found in the third man's car at the hospital.
It's a mystery to me, too," he said.
Taylor was asked whether Campbell usually carried a knife. An officer at the hospital found a spring-loaded knife in Campbell's personal effects.
I never knew him to carry a weapon," Taylor said. "He carried a utility knife."
Several other witnesses testified in the afternoon. Devinder Singh, the owner of the Rose Hill 7-Eleven, testified about his store's surveillance camera.
Homicide detective Stephen Needls also testified about the custody of the video tape from the night that was given to police. No video was shown in the trial.
Detective John Tuller, a crime scene investigator with FCPD, testified about the scene in the hospital where Campbell died from his wounds. Tuller showed the shirt Campbell had been wearing in the hospital: a white polo shirt with blue stripes, about half of it stained with what looked like blood.
Investigating the car that took Campbell to the hospital, Tuller said, he found several blood stains and a wooden-handled knife with no blood on it.
FCPD homicide Detective Eric Dean, the lead investigator on the case, also testified about getting a DNA swab from the defendant's mouth.
Finally, Detective Michael S. Lamper testified about various pieces of evidence that he saw at the crime scene, including blood stains and the broken golf club.

Defense Calls Victim's Grandmother, Brother in Murder Trial
It was a day for expert witnesses, foggy memories, and disputed testimonies as the prosecution rested its argument and the defense began calling witnesses in the second day of a Rose Hill teen accused of murder.
Tony Perez:
The defense, after pointing out that Perez was on felony probation on the night of Campbell's death, asked Perez whether he participated in the fight.
According to the defense's theory of the fight, Perez helped Campbell and Taylor fight the defendant and his older brother. The prosecution holds that Perez was not involved.
"You know you're under oath right now?" defense attorney Cary Greenberg asked Perez after he denied involvement in the fight.

Medical Examiner:
According to Dr. A Wayne Williams, Campbell received 12 stab wounds on his body, two of which would be fatal. Williams said that the stab wounds were consistent with a fight.

Motion to Strike:
Homicide requires malice, Greenberg said, arguing that even taking the Commonwealth's evidence in the most positive light showed no malice on the defendant's part.
"All the facts show no intent to kill," Greenberg said, saying that when Campbell tried to leave the fight, the defendant allowed him to. If the defendant wanted to kill the wounded Campbell, according to the defense, he would have pursued him.
Kassabian declined to strike the charge, citing the use of a weapon and the length of the stab wounds Campbell received as evidence of malice.

Campbell's Reputation:
The defense called two teenaged friends of the defendant to the stand as witnesses. One night during the summer of 2010, the three teens were allegedly ambushed by Campbell and two other older boys. Pretending to be police, the older teens stole the younger teens' phones and iPods.
The teens said they didn't report the crime because their parents didn't know they were out so late. The robbery is supposedly what precipitated the argument at the 7-Eleven.
One of the defendant's friends said Campbell had a reputation for violence.
"People knew who he was and they always talked about the stuff he did," he said, although he added that Campbell didn't touch him during the robbery.
The defendant's other friend, however, disagreed, saying that Campbell had pushed the defendant against a fence and frisked him, looking for valuables.
When prosecutor Camille Turner asked the witness whether he had already told police in an earlier statement that Campbell hadn't pushed anyone, the witness said he didn't recall saying that and insisted that Campbell was involved in the robbery.

Campbell's Family:
The defense called Mary Ann Meegan, Campbell's grandmother, to testify. After the argument at the 7-Eleven, Taylor and Campbell went to Meegan's nearby apartment before heading to the fight behind the convenience store.
Meegan said that Campbell stayed at her home for between 15 and 20 minutes.
Meegan said her grandson left with a golf club, the first admission by anyone associated with Campbell in the case that he had taken a golf club to the fight. A broken golf club shaft was found near the crime scene after the fight.
During cross-examination, defense attorney Caroline Costle asked Meegan if she remembered telling a Fairfax County Police Department detective that Campbell had only stayed in the apartment for a few minutes, instead of the 15-20 minutes she testified to in court. Meegan said that she remembered giving the earlier statement.
"He was happy when he came home," Meegan said. "He was angry when he left."

After Meegan, the defense called William Campbell, Campbell's 20-year-old brother.
Greenberg, who has been prevented from producing evidence about Wyatt Campbell's possible history of marijuana dealing with Taylor and Perez by a ruling from the judge, asked William Campbell whether, the day after the murder, he told FCPD Detective Dan Bibeault that his younger brother had been involved in a drug deal that went sour.
William Campbell said he didn't recall making any statement like that. When Greenberg asked him if he'd like to see the interview where he allegedly said it, Campbell refused, saying he knows what he said.
Immediately after Campbell, the defense called Bibeault to the stand. Bibeault said that William Campbell did tell him that his younger brother had told him about a recent drug deal gone bad, and explained how he chased at least one person down the street with a baseball bat as a result.
Campbell's cell phone showed his safe which had between 1/2lb - 1/lb and cash, $10K.

The Defendant's Brother:
David, 24, worked at a Gamestop store in October 2010. After getting off work on October 14, he picked up his younger brother and took him to the 7-Eleven to buy drinks and cigarettes, but realized he didn't have any money.
As he left the store, David said, his brother pointed out Campbell sitting nearby in a car. When David confronted him, Campbell laughed, and David pushed his head.
David said Campbell then tried to get out of the car while pulling the spring-loaded knife that was later found amongst his personal effects in the hospital.
"I'm going to get you," David recalls Campbell saying to him. Soon, though, Taylor convinced Campbell not to fight in front of the store.
The two brothers left the 7-Eleven, and David came up with a plan. He'd pretend that a broken Airsoft pellet pistol they had at home was actually a real gun, and threaten Campbell and Taylor until they gave back his brother's stolen iPod.
After the brothers went to the alley, though, the plan fell apart, according to David's testimony. Campbell arrived with Taylor and Perez, and none of them were scared by the broken toy gun.
"[Perez and Taylor] just ran at me and started punching," David said. When David could see his younger brother fighting Campbell, he saw Campbell swinging something at him, then trying to tackle his younger brother.
Soon, Campbell said he had been hurt. Taylor left in his car, and Perez and Campbell left in Perez's Cherokee.
The brothers left, too, returning to their house. The younger brother had received a cut (photos taken the day after show a cut on one of his wrists), and they bandaged it up while trying not to wake their mother.
David said his brother also received a black eye and a long, straight mark, two centimeters thick, across his ribs. This would seem to be consistent with a mark from a golf club, and was not mentioned in testimony from an officer who photographed the defendant's wounds soon after the fight.
In cross-examination, David admitted telling police about the toy gun late in interviews, and initially saying his younger brother never got out of the car during the fight. He insisted at trial that his brother didn't have a knife at the fight.
"He's not allowed to carry a knife," David said.
Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Camille Turner closed the cross-examination with a series of rapid questions:
Turner: Little brother?
David: Yes.
Turner: Love him?
David: Yes.
Turner: Want to protect him?
David: Yes.
Turner: To this day.

Defendant in Wyatt Campbell Murder Trial Found Not Guilty
After about six hours of deliberations, a jury found the 15-year-old defendant charged with the murder of Rose Hill teen Wyatt Campbell not guilty Friday morning.
Deliberations started Thursday afternoon and continued Friday morning. The jury reached a verdict around 10:20 a.m.
Defendant’s Brother Held for Contempt:
Before the verdict was read, Judge Brett A. Kassabian demanded order in the courtroom, telling both parties that any outbursts or disruptions upon hearing the verdict would be dealt with “severely.”
But upon hearing the not guilty verdict, the defendant’s brother, David, stood up and started clapping.
Once the defendant had been escorted out of the courtroom, Kassabian gave David a chance to explain himself. David said he was happy for his brother, and that his brother hadn’t deserved to be there.
Kassabian was not satisfied, and, placing him in contempt of court, sentenced him to a day in jail. “This is not the Jerry Springer Show,” Kassabian said. “This is a courtroom.”
While the bailiff was cuffing David’s hands, David looked at Campbell’s party and said, “Who’s laughing now, b----?”
Angered, Kassabian called the statement “outrageous” and sentenced him to additional time.
The defendant was sent back to the juvenile detention center to be released immediately.

Thursday’s Closing Arguments:
The trial was put to the jury around 12:40 p.m. Thursday, after the prosecution and defense presented their closing arguments.
Before Kassabian released the case to the jury, Cary Greenberg, the defense’s attorney, motioned again to strike the case.
“There is nothing that suggests malice,” he said, describing the killing as an act of self-defense by somebody who was “extremely petrified.” “There is no indication that this was an intentional killing. This case should not go to the jury.”
Kassabian disagreed, saying that these were all matters for a jury to decide.
During the prosecution’s closing arguments, commonwealth attorney Camille Turner stated that in order for the jury to come back with a verdict of guilty of second-degree murder, they had to establish that the defendant had killed Wyatt Campbell and done so with malice.
“You may infer malice because there was an unlawful killing,” she said, adding that there was deliberate use of a weapon, and that by the end of the fight, Campbell had suffered 12 stab wounds. “This was a brutal, malicious killing, and we would ask that you find the defendant guilty of murder.”
The defense used the closing arguments to reiterate that the defendant had been protecting himself.
“Nature’s oldest law is self-defense,” Greenberg said, reminding the jury that the defendant and his brother had been in a conflict with three people intending to do bodily harm. “These were people looking to fight and looking to hurt people in ways we can’t even imagine.”
Greenburg also brought up Campbell’s reputation, the inconsistencies in Randy Taylor’s testimony, an unprocessed knife found in the back seat of Tony Perez’s car, and unidentified blood on the defendant’s brother’s car.
And when the fight stopped, Greenberg said, the defendant didn’t pursue Campbell or try to do him more harm. “There’s no indication that [the defendant] ever actively wanted to kill anybody,” he said.
“This is a serious case and a terrible tragedy, but a 15-year-old kid is entitled also to go on and live his life.”
Turner used her rebuttal to point out that the defendant’s side of the story came primarily from his own brother, and questioned whether the sheer number of wounds qualified as “more force than was reasonably necessary to repel the attack” from Campbell.
“If a person who you outweigh by 20, 30, 40 pounds is coming at you in a football crouch, is it necessary to stab them 12 times?” she asked the jury, holding up forensic photos of Campbell’s wounds.

After about six hours of deliberations, a jury found the 15-year-old defendant charged with the murder of Rose Hill teen Wyatt Campbell not guilty Friday morning.
The jury was released for deliberations at 12:40 p.m. Thursday but was sent home at 5:30 p.m. with instructions to return at 9 a.m. Friday. They reached a verdict around 10:20 a.m.

Case close.

AryanPride Wrote:
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> Just remember in Fairfax you can stab someone 12
> times, claim self defense and move on with your
> life a free person. God Bless the US ! God Bless
> Fairfax County!
> And people are worried about guns.....

"An example needs to be set," he testified.
Campbell and Taylor began walking from Campbell's grandmother's home to a sidestreet behind the 7-Eleven, a distance of about a block-and-a-half.
Greenberg pressed Taylor on whether Campbell was carrying a golf club, because a broken golf club was found at the scene of the crime. Taylor said he never saw what Campbell was carrying, because Campbell was behind him the whole time.
Taylor eventually conceded that Campbell was in front of him when they returned to the 7-Eleven to find out if the police had been called.
Meegan said her grandson left with a golf club, the first admission by anyone associated with Campbell in the case that he had taken a golf club to the fight. A broken golf club shaft was found near the crime scene after the fight.

An officer at the hospital found a spring-loaded knife in Campbell's personal effects.

David said Campbell then tried to get out of the car while pulling the spring-loaded knife that was later found amongst his personal effects in the hospital.
"I'm going to get you," David recalls Campbell saying to him. Soon, though, Taylor convinced Campbell not to fight in front of the store.
The two brothers left the 7-Eleven, and David came up with a plan. He'd pretend that a broken Airsoft pellet pistol they had at home was actually a real gun, and threaten Campbell and Taylor until they gave back his brother's stolen iPod.

The younger brother had received a cut (photos taken the day after show a cut on one of his wrists), and they bandaged it up while trying not to wake their mother.
David said his brother also received a black eye and a long, straight mark, two centimeters thick, across his ribs. This would seem to be consistent with a mark from a golf club, and was not mentioned in testimony from an officer who photographed the defendant's wounds soon after the fight.

William Campbell said he didn't recall making any statement like that. When Greenberg asked him if he'd like to see the interview where he allegedly said it, Campbell refused, saying he knows what he said.
Immediately after Campbell, the defense called Bibeault to the stand. Bibeault said that William Campbell did tell him that his younger brother had told him about a recent drug deal gone bad, and explained how he chased at least one person down the street with a baseball bat as a result.


The Campbell boy had a switchblade knife along with a golf club. A knife was in his friend's Perez's jeep that had not be confiscated by the police just because there was no blood, ??
The older Smith boy brought a toy Airsoft pellet plastic gun.
The Campbell boy and his friend Randy wanted to "set an example".
The Campbell boy said "I'm going to get you".
The Campbell boy had chased a person with a baseball bat because of drug deal that went wrong.
No mention of the younger Smith boy having a weapon or one was found.

So yeah! here in the U.S. and the county, it is a good thing that we can plead self-defense when our lives are in danger. Let's hope that none of us are in the same position some day. But most importantly, let's hope that the kids out here realize that this not the way to fight, use the old fashion way, your fist.

it was the smiths that assaulted that kid first and then murdered him while he struggled for his life. the only one in fear was the kid they murdered. am so glad i don't live in that community because i doubt if this is the last you hear of that family. god bless the murdered boy's family and god help the rest of you. that kid is going to be walking the halls of the high school with your children and sitting side by side in a classroom. i for one would be very uneasy with that and would be either looking for a way to keep that kid out of the school or a way to remove my daughter

@Gordon Wrote:
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>
> I do not have time to scroll back thru all these
> pages to point out how many times you had made
> rude or sarcastic remarks to people or placed a
> pic or video of the same nature.

of course not. funny how I do something all the time, yet it's hard to find LoLz


You are not so
> innocent like you would like people to believe. If
> i remember correctly one person asked you to not
> start up with your BS last Thursday to leave
> people alone to vent their anger about the
> verdict, you couldn't even respect that
> request.

It's a public forum. If the Site moderator asked, I would do so. However, I have the SAME RIGHT to post as you do. I guess you missed that Sesame Street episode about sharing....................


You have over 200 rooms to choose from, go
> bother one of those. What is it you find so
> interesting about this one?


well, it started with the memorial picture of an underage man holding a forty oz of mlat liquor with the quote "May the Angels lead you to promise" and them the pro-street fighting lobby that popped up afterwards.


BTW We do not condone
> fighting in the alley. Our issue is that a 15 yr
> old kid stabbed a 18 yr old to death.

Well, the 18 yr old should not have left his HOUSE to go fight the 15 yr old behind a shopping center. Then you wouldnt have an issue now, would you?


He did not
> stop at one, which I might be able to accept that
> he was scared, But to continue 12 more times!!!!

I wonder what Wyatt did to piss him off that much - maybe it had to do with that prior robbery y'all like to just forget about.


> ...And one think about this, Wasn't it Wyatt
> defending himself. David Smith admitted he told
> his brother let's go get the BB Gun it looks real
> and rob them to get your IPOD back. So if someone
> showed up at my house ( or close to my house )
> with a gun wouldn't it be wyatt committing SELF
> DEFENSE???..But I am sure you will take issue with
> that like you always do


No, cause Wyatt should have kept his ass inside and called the cops. It's self defense if the person with the gun comes INTO yr house. YOu go outside yr house, it's a WHOLE different ballgame. We grown-ups call it MUTUAL COMBAT if both parties CHOOSE to fight. Not really me taking issue with it, since 12 other ppl backed me up on that

@to all of you - well, I pretty sure that those kids are going to know not to try and to rob him.............

@thank goodness - it's pretty simple to not get yrself in that position - DONT ROB ANYBODY cause their unstable ass may come back gunnin' for ya.

The defense witness's testimony does not support that this kid robbed anybody. As a matter of fact, both witnesses testified they did not know this kid, he didn't touch them, and he didn't rob them, yet David and Steven Smith decided he did. David SMith testified that he broke into Randy Taylor's vehicle, setting off the car alarm...seem that the Smiths were the ones committing robbery. Armed robbery, I might add, since they both had returned to their home and gathered weapons. Those two had plenty of time to decide what they were going to do, and then they did it. You continually state that you have a problem with an adult going to fight a child, but by the defense's own testimony, it didn't happen that way. David Smith attacked that kid at the 7"11. That alone does not support your theory. Second, David Smith also testified that Steven Smith was hiding behind the car. In a dark alley. Where no one could see him. Where he could ambush that boy and stab him 12 times. Since you proclaim to live in that area, be very careful about who you cross. It may be a Smith.

Well, we were told that the facts would come out at the trial. It looks like they did. I don't feel foolish like everyone said I would, though.

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@to Mr Mephisto - well, that was back when they werent telling about the spring-loaded knife, either LoLz

@togordon - my THEORY is that the ADULT left his house to head down that dark alley - he brought a weapon with him, presumibly to confront these CHILDREN who he had a confrontation with that day since it's not mornal behaviour to take a golf club with you to the Sev. I really dont have to worry about it cause I wont be antagonizing the Smiths by attempting to rob them, per testimony:

As the two pulled up to the 7-Eleven, Taylor said, the defendant's older brother approached Campbell, still in the car.
"Did you get my brother?" Taylor testified hearing the man ask Campbell. According to a witness statement to police, Campbell and two other boys, pretending to be police officers, had robbed the defendant and some of his friends.

The defense called two teenaged friends of the defendant to the stand as witnesses. One night during the summer of 2010, the three teens were allegedly ambushed by Campbell and two other older boys. Pretending to be police, the older teens stole the younger teens' phones and iPods.
The teens said they didn't report the crime because their parents didn't know they were out so late. The robbery is supposedly what precipitated the argument at the 7-Eleven.
One of the defendant's friends said Campbell had a reputation for violence.

http://kingstowne.patch.com/articles/if-they-called-the-cops-im-screwed-fight-participant-testifies-in-rose-hill-murder-trial


dunno why you think it's normal behaviour to "cross" somebody - most normal ppl avoid doing such things.

it was the 24 year old brother who assaulted Wyatt Campbell. David Smith is no child, he also outweighed the victim by about 70 pounds. Steven Smith outweighed the victim by at least 30. When the victim was assaulted at the 7"11 and asked "did you get my brother", all of the testimony showed that the victim said no. Both of the defendent's friends/witnesses stated to the police that the victim had not robbed them, had not touched them, but apparently that wasnt' sufficient for the Smiths, who then chased, "targeted and assaulted", and ultimately murdered this victim. From what I saw in the courtroom, the victim's "reputation" was a figment of a clever defense attorney. The verdict says a lot for the intelligence of the citizens of Fairfax County. Another reason for me to be grateful not to live near people like yourself. This victim didn't cross the Smiths. They seem to be a family that choses to mete out justice themselves, whether deserved or not. You may take their parking space, or bump his car, or your children be too loud as they play. Loose cannons fire at will. Go ahead, take your chances with this kid.

From what I saw in the courtroom, the victim's "reputation" was a figment of a clever defense attorney.
*William Campbell* said he didn't recall making any statement like that. When Greenberg asked him if he'd like to see the interview where he allegedly said it, Campbell refused, saying he knows what he said.
Immediately after Campbell, the defense called FCPD Detective Bibeault to the stand. Bibeault said that William Campbell did tell him that his younger brother had told him about a recent "drug deal" gone bad, and explained how he chased at least one person down the street "with a baseball bat" as a result.

Do YOU seriously think people on here are going to buy into your bulls*it if you and others repeatedly say the same lies over and over and over? Continued defamation of character, assumptions; and accusations are not convincing. Guess what, just because brains are fried, others aren't. Did you see people in suits? LMAO---

Recap you may need to try it again..

Give it a F***'N Rest Wrote:
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> Our issue is that a 15 yr old kid stabbed a 18 yr
> old to death. He did not stop at one, which I
> might be able to accept that he was scared, But to
> continue 12 more times!!!! ...And one think about
> this, Wasn't it Wyatt defending himself. David
> Smith admitted he told his brother let's go get
> the BB Gun it looks real and rob them to get your
> IPOD back. So if someone showed up at my house (
> or close to my house ) with a gun wouldn't it be
> wyatt committing SELF DEFENSE???..But I am sure
> you will take issue with that like you always do
>
> READ the Post Name: Recap, the one directly above
> yours!!
> STOP showing your lack of intelligence and
> truthfulness! As I stated, you all are making OUR
> community look even worse! Since the cops are
> closely watching along with us neighbors,
> hopefully our community will get cleaned up! If
> many of you would stay off the drugs, you just
> might be able to save what is left of the organ
> called, brain.

I don't who the hell you think you are, BUT I am not on Drugs, Second No on cares about your opinion, if you dont like the way OUR community is or looks then Get the F**** Out. Take your nasty comments with you.

if you dont like the way OUR community is or looks then Get the F**** Out. Take your nasty comments with you.

YOU get the F**** OUT, Trash!
In time the police, FBI; and DEA will be carrying a dumpster load out.
Speaking of trash, it's getting late need to attend to the bag in the kitchen.
I/WE don't give a rats ass what you think either!!!

Posted by: LMAO ()
Date: July 10, 2011 07:37PM
*Correction*
Did you see people at the trial dressed in suits? LMAO---

Give it a F***'N Rest Wrote:
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> Speaking of trash, it's getting late need to
> attend to the bag in the kitchen.

That's no way to talk about your wife...

(sorry, had to be said)

> Speaking of trash, it's getting late need to
> attend to the bag in the kitchen.

That's no way to talk about your wife...

(sorry, had to be said)

Ut videam, Thanks for the laugh! Good night.

i keep reading about Wyatt, Wyatt, Wyatt........... WTF is wrong with you people, What about Steven Smith, Why is there no mention of the Fact he could have stayed home that night!!!! He didn't have to choose to GO BACK to the Alley with his Insane Brother David Smith who btw is 23, You can not put all this blame on the Victim.

No matter whether you liked Wyatt or not. Knew him personally or not. He did not deserve to have his life taken.

It does not MATTER what happened prior to Oct 14 as far as Wyatt and a drug deal gone bad and chasing some one with a bat. that has nothing to do with Oct 14.

This was not about Drugs, This was about David Smith getting out of HIS CAR and going over and assaulting Wyatt!! He punched Wyatt in the side of the head. He and his brother did not have to come back with a toy gun, or even a real gun or a KNIFE!!! ....

Ok so wyatt had a golf club for protection, that is bad, yet Steven had a knife you say nothing of this, A little Hipocritical isn't it.

Wyatt Campbell was a human being like all of us, No I did not know him, But I know what is right and wrong, and you can cleary see that there were lies told in court on the defense'e side. 2 Witness to the night in question back in June, BOTH originaly stated that Wyatt did take or touch anyone that night, Court - One stuck to the truth, 2nd one lied. Hmmm Find that interesting.

That boy did not need to stab Wyatt 12 times, from what I read on the Patch,one wound was in his head!! That is just sick.

But yeah let's blame it all on Wyatt ...Right .....

Give it a F***'N Rest Wrote:
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> if you dont like the way OUR community is or looks
> then Get the F**** Out. Take your nasty comments
> with you.
>
> YOU get the F**** OUT, Trash!
> In time the police, FBI; and DEA will be carrying
> a dumpster load out.
> Speaking of trash, it's getting late need to
> attend to the bag in the kitchen.
> I/WE don't give a rats ass what you think
> either!!!

I am not going to get into a war of words with you. So now I am Trash, Yeah I don't think so. I will ask again, If you hate where you live, then why are you there?? yeah I am sure that is the first thing on the list to rid Rose Hill of dumpster's. STFU and get a life. your the one giving it a bad name on here talking like Trailer Trash

So now I am Trash, Yeah I don't think so. I will ask again, If you hate where you live, then why are you there?? yeah I am sure that is the first thing on the list to rid Rose Hill of dumpster's. STFU and get a life. your the one giving it a bad name on here talking like Trailer Trash

I/WE have a life that's clean and honest. This is MY neighborhood and will do whatever it takes to get it clean up, don't care what you think or say. NO not even close to trailer trash. To get through to others I have noticed you have to speak their language. So Yes, I have to admit it's not like me, I have had to stoop to a level that is beneath me. I shall go with a new post name.

FYI:
Carl Sell, president of the Rose Hill Civic Association, released the following news bulletin to Rose Hill residents regarding the not-guilty verdict in the Wyatt Campbell murder trial.

There has been a not guilty decision by the jury in the murder case that occurred some time back in the alleyway that separates the shopping center and the apartments. As a result, you may notice a larger police presence in our community for the next few days. Report any suspicious activity immediately as the police won't be far away.

Residents can report suspicious activity by calling police at 703-691-2131.

Not for the Smith boys. There are many requests from all. Good night.

I am quite aware of the Civic Association is, I use to serve on it years ago. i don't why you would seem to think that people who knew and loved Wyatt would do anything, They have done nothing in form of Retaliation, David Smith how ever has been the one making remarks. So yeah you all need to be AWARE of them.


FYI ..Wyatt's family asked for increased patrols because of these remarks.

So stop amusing that Everyone is so bad. Wyatt Campbell was not a bad young man. No one is saying you have to like him though, What we are saying is The Smith's came into OUR Community that night and The Smith's Murdered Wyatt that night. So yes I think we as a whole community to be on the look out for them, they killed once and got away with it, they will do it again.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @to Mr Mephisto - well, that was back when they
> werent telling about the spring-loaded knife,
> either LoLz
>
> @togordon - my THEORY is that the ADULT left his
> house to head down that dark alley - he brought a
> weapon with him, presumibly to confront these
> CHILDREN who he had a confrontation with that day
> since it's not mornal behaviour to take a golf
> club with you to the Sev. I really dont have to
> worry about it cause I wont be antagonizing the
> Smiths by attempting to rob them, per testimony:
>
> As the two pulled up to the 7-Eleven, Taylor said,
> the defendant's older brother approached Campbell,
> still in the car.
> "Did you get my brother?" Taylor testified hearing
> the man ask Campbell. According to a witness
> statement to police, Campbell and two other boys,
> pretending to be police officers, had robbed the
> defendant and some of his friends.
>
> The defense called two teenaged friends of the
> defendant to the stand as witnesses. One night
> during the summer of 2010, the three teens were
> allegedly ambushed by Campbell and two other older
> boys. Pretending to be police, the older teens
> stole the younger teens' phones and iPods.
> The teens said they didn't report the crime
> because their parents didn't know they were out so
> late. The robbery is supposedly what precipitated
> the argument at the 7-Eleven.
> One of the defendant's friends said Campbell had a
> reputation for violence.
>
> http://kingstowne.patch.com/articles/if-they-calle
> d-the-cops-im-screwed-fight-participant-testifies-
> in-rose-hill-murder-trial
>
>
> dunno why you think it's normal behaviour to
> "cross" somebody - most normal ppl avoid doing
> such things.


It's Funny you are quick to report that 2 of the defendant's friends testified about the night in question ( the june robbery) and how one of said Wyatt had a reputation for violence.

Yet you did not print that one of them testified that Wyatt had nothing to do with it, that he had touched anyone nor take anything from anyone!!!!

The other person lied on the stand, in is first statement to the Police he agreed with the other boy, that wyatt had nothing to do with it.

Let's hope they in force the perjury law.......

Someone told me about this case, I looked it up and WOW read this crap....

What the hell is wrong with all of you?

How can you defend either of these people???

#1-some kids stole my son's 4g memory stick....took 6 months and me finally finding the kids and threatening to follow him home and tell his mother before my kid was able to get it back. These are 10-12 yr olds....every other kid lied and said he never stole it, but guess what, he had and he kept my son from getting it back by threatening him that whole time.

From experience, I bet they did steal the ipod, kids lie, even to police, I've seen it happen. It's not the way it should be, but it seems to be the way it is. So same situation, different ages, Mom's not there to help, or maybe can't. So what, you accept that a thug stole from you, or do you try to get it back? (and yes, once you rob a kid, I'd say your a thug)

#2-Umm a BB gun to scare um, good plan, isn't gonna kill them, and obviously they succeeded in robbing them in the first place, I'd wanna protect myself too.

#3-That does not mean I think it was 'alright' that the original victim stabbed his past robber to death. It was not, they should have stuck with a non-lethal BB gun than a knife if they meant to get it back by trying to be threatening themselves. I don't think it's right, but sometimes you have to help yourself when no one else will. It sucks, but it happens.

#4-Everyone keeps saying this 15yr old was bigger than the 18yr old, well, leaving the house with a golf club indicates he felt he could 'take him'.

#5-Where the hell are the parents? Frankly, if I wanted a target on this message board, that's the best place to look. I am sure, 100% that even from 15-18(and beyond) my kids will tell me if they need help. I truly believe they would NEVER take a weapon from the house in anger...because I raised them that way. Not all of my neighbors bother w/their kids as much as I do, and those kids may end up just like these two, its very sad, but as a parent you have to instill good values in your kids, neither of these kids had that. Especially since that pic of, wyatt was it, w/the beer bottle was "at home"....that actually makes it worse in my opinion. Why the hell are his parents letting him drink? We can see the good example he had.

#6-You all have spent months on here bickering and trash talking each other, do you feel better? Has it helped at all? Have any of you bothered to get off your computer and go make the world you live in a better place?

I doubt it.....but I bet the guys on here asking real questions, like "Why'd you go meet up with a KID you robbed, weapons in tow?" at least want to understand...not out of hate (although you all have set yourselves up for their mockery) but out of a desire to better the community they live in. If you know why, you have a better chance of stopping it from happening again.

This is just a sad story from all angles.. No one is right. Everyone involved is wrong...I feel bad that some of you lost a friend, I feel bad a teenager ever felt pushed to the extreme he was, I doubt his life will be all flowers and butterflies either.

Get off of here and get out. Go meet the kids in your neighborhoods. Talk to them, hell give em a batch of cookies. Let them know you, trust you. If they feel they have someone to talk to, to help them, who cares, maybe next time something goes wrong you'll be able to help them through it instead of bitchin' and moaning over the loss of another kid. I'll give you an example, 9 outta 10 kids in my neighborhood will come to me or the hubby if they get hurt, not home, to us. We patch em up, give em a juice and tell them to come right back if they need anything....someday they'll remember someone was kind to them when they felt they had nowhere else to go, even home. Why not be that person instead of an online hate mongrel??????

your whole premise is based on your theory that the kid was robbed by the victim. The defendent's OWN WITNESSES told the police that the victim DID NOT rob them, or touch them in any way. Kind of an oops, I killed the wrong victim scenario if you ask me.

The teenager accused in the stabbing death of an 18-year-old man last October in Franconia was found not guilty by a jury in Fairfax County on Friday .


Steven Smith, who was 15 at the time of the stabbing, was acquitted of the murder of 18-year-old Wyatt Campbell, which happened behind the Rose Hill Plaza on Oct. 14.

The family of Wyatt Campbell says Friday’s verdict by a Fairfax County jury does not bring justice.

“We've been dealing with for almost nine months now,” said Sheila Fuller, the victim’s mother.

Police told ABC7 News at the time of the stabbing that Campbell had gotten into a dispute with a group of teens and had smashed out the back windshield of a car shortly before he was stabbed.

Campbell died half an hour later at the hospital.

Smith turned himself in several days after the incident. The Edison High School sophomore was charged with second-degree murder. He was tried as an adult.

Family members said that Campbell and Smith had grown up together.

“It would have been better for everyone involved, the whole community, if this person been kept in jail,” Fuller said after the acquittal.

At Friday's hearing, the older brother of the accused, David Smith, was held in contempt of court after yelling a profanity at the Campbell family. He was sentenced to three days in jail.

Fairfax County officers are maintaining a visible presence at the Campbell and Smith homes as well as the Rose Hill shopping plaza, the scene of the crime.

Campbell's mother Fuller says she's not angry with the jury. “I don't blame anyone. The only person I blame is the person who murdered my child,” she said

GAME OVER.

I raise a 40 in amazement today. LOOOOOLLLLLL!

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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"

except it wasn't ever a game to wyatt's friends and family and it doesn't sound like its a game to his mother. the jury fucked up

to in awe Wrote:
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> your whole premise is based on your theory that
> the kid was robbed by the victim. The defendent's
> OWN WITNESSES told the police that the victim DID
> NOT rob them,

False.

Campbell's Reputation

The defense called two teenaged friends of the defendant to the stand as witnesses. One night during the summer of 2010, the three teens were allegedly ambushed by Campbell and two other older boys. Pretending to be police, the older teens stole the younger teens' phones and iPods.

The teens said they didn't report the crime because their parents didn't know they were out so late. The robbery is supposedly what precipitated the argument at the 7-Eleven.

One of the defendant's friends said Campbell had a reputation for violence.

> ... or touch them in any way.

"People knew who he was and they always talked about the stuff he did," he said, although he added that Campbell didn't touch him during the robbery.

The defendant's other friend, however, disagreed, saying that Campbell had pushed the defendant against a fence and frisked him, looking for valuables.

When prosecutor Camille Turner asked the witness whether he had already told police in an earlier statement that Campbell hadn't pushed anyone, the witness said he didn't recall saying that and insisted that Campbell was involved in the robbery.

One kid said they did, another kid said they didn't. Doesn't really matter though, does it?

One of these days, you people will have to come to grips with reality, and the reality is this kid was not the innocent person you make him out to be.

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the kid who recanted on the stand originally told the police that Wyatt DID NOT rob them, and yes it does matter. The Smiths lied about the events. They also did not tell the jury that David Smith is on probation for assault. A PRIOR ASSAULT. Seems like they are the ones with reputations and legal histories, not the victim. It has not been proven with FACTS, that this victim had a violent reputation. But is has been proven in a court of law (Alexandria City), that David Smith has a violent history. None of this info brings back that kid to his mother, but the jury should have been given all of the facts. You keep on playing ostrich and blame the victim. Next time those Smiths get out of control someone else will get hurt or killed. How many times can it be the victim's fault?

Deserving to die: We all "deserve" to die. In fact, it's precisely what we are expected to do. The rest is all blather.

They also did not tell the jury that David Smith is on probation for assault. A PRIOR ASSAULT. Seems like they are the ones with reputations and legal histories, not the victim. Smith has a violent history reputation. But is has been proven in a court of law (Alexandria City), that David Smith has a violent history.

Since there's been a mountain of lies, are you in the position to back this up and not in your own words?

It has not been proven with FACTS, that this victim had a violent reputation.
I wouldn't go that far since his own brother said differently.

William Campbell said he didn't recall making any statement like that. When Greenberg asked him if he'd like to see the interview where he allegedly said it, Campbell refused, saying he knows what he said.
Immediately after Campbell, the defense called Bibeault to the stand. Bibeault said that William Campbell did tell him that his younger brother had told him about a recent drug deal gone bad, and explained how he chased at least one person down the street with a baseball bat as a result.

Are you aware that there are people on this forum that have heard the stories from neighboring kids and their own?

It would be in the best interest that everyone let this and the other thread go to the waste side. Spewing is not going to change the outcome on either side.

I no longer live in NOVA and no longer pay taxes there, but if you are concerned about the Smiths being out and about in your neighborhood...

I posted this on the other thread and decided to post it here also..
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Seeing how this thread is still alive and some don't think that the juries "not guilty verdict" is a sufficient penalty to keep the Smiths from repeating their crimes in the future, mayby a community out cry will help.

Steven Smith was breaking probation by engaging in the late night fight that cost the life of Wyatt Campbell.

Well what can the community Do?

Spend the 50 cents to send a simple letter to the Clerk of Courts (cc.. the Probation and Curfew Enforcement (PACE) Program) and let them know how you feel about the matter.

Juvenile & Domestic Relations District Court
1425 N. Courthouse Rd., Suite 5100
Arlington, VA 22201

703-228-4500

I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct address for the Juvy court that has been handling Steve Smith's probation, so post a correction if needed.

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Re: Steven Smith 15yrs old Ordered to Stand Trial as a Adult in the Murder of Wyatt Campbell
Posted by: Questionable ()
Date: July 11, 2011 02:50PM

Understand where you are coming from, extremely doubtful though that this will result into anything. Based on a not guilty verdict he no longer has a record this too would apply to the misdemeanor charges (was reduced) that placed him on probation. I would think in turn, the 15-year old could get written statements from neighboring kids that had bought drugs from the victim and the fact that the victims' brother and friends are also located in the community even though as of today, they have not gott'n caught for their illegal actions but are known to the community and surrounding areas. Remember they are associated with those guys, Randy Taylor and Tony Perez (currently both on probation, one is a felon). Don't think the suggestion would get off the ground for many reasons. Just putting further hope and frustration on many.

As you know once a jury makes a decision it stands. We see that in the Casey Anthony trial where the public is in an outrage but the public can't do anything. No record, case closed. The only thing that can happen at this point, is that ALL learn what not to do, don't mess with drugs, be responsible citizens; and understand that the end result is not favorable for either party.

yes this can be backed up. VIRGINIA COURT CASE INFORMATION. Look under Alexandria City, David T. Smith. Also, Maryland has a court case information website, again just type in his name with the middle initial, and tada, there it is. And yes, I am aware of the stories, that is what sent me looking for the other convictions on David Smith. Try asking kids about the Smiths, very interesting info out there. Broken vehicle windows, assaults at Wendy's, punching someone in the face at McDonald's, chasing someone with a knife (a different story than what they did to Wyatt Campbell), beating up a man in his own house. Dozens and dozens of Smith stories. Try asking if your high schooler is comfortable attending school with this murderer. Bet the answer is no.

to mephisto Wrote:
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> You keep on playing
> ostrich and blame the victim. Next time those
> Smiths get out of control someone else will get
> hurt or killed. How many times can it be the
> victim's fault?

No, I keep playing "read and comprehend." The witness obviously didn't commit perjury or that would have been reported. Just because you don't want to come to grips with reality doesn't mean your warped perception is the truth.

Bystander Wrote:
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> I no longer live in NOVA and no longer pay taxes
> there...

Oh, this is rich. So you've spent all this time calling us liars, trolls, terrible people, and chiding us for discussing this topic and you don't even live here?!

In other words, you're just some morally self-righteous asshole spouting his morally self-righteous bullshit for the sake of being a morally self-righteous asshole. Thank the gods you don't live here anymore. We've got enough douchebags as it is.

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to questionable Wrote:
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> yes this can be backed up. VIRGINIA COURT CASE
> INFORMATION. Look under Alexandria City, David
> T. Smith. Also, Maryland has a court case
> information website, again just type in his name
> with the middle initial, and tada, there it is.
> And yes, I am aware of the stories, that is what
> sent me looking for the other convictions on David
> Smith. Try asking kids about the Smiths, very
> interesting info out there. Broken vehicle
> windows, assaults at Wendy's, punching someone in
> the face at McDonald's, chasing someone with a
> knife (a different story than what they did to
> Wyatt Campbell), beating up a man in his own
> house. Dozens and dozens of Smith stories. Try
> asking if your high schooler is comfortable
> attending school with this murderer. Bet the
> answer is no.

It's a shame that David wasn't on trial then, isn't it.

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neither is the victims brother, or randy taylor, or tony perez, yet you keep spouting off about them. David Smith will be on trial, for this or yet another murder. And by the way, ask the courts in Fairfax, they DO NOT prosecute for perjury. Ever.

Heeeeeeeeeeeere's Davey!
Attachments:

to mr mephisto Wrote:
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> neither is the victims brother, or randy taylor,
> or tony perez, yet you keep spouting off about
> them. David Smith will be on trial, for this or
> yet another murder.

So wait, David Smith isn't on trial, but he will be? And he's going to be tried for this particular murder even though they didn't see fit to arrest him for it already?

> And by the way, ask the
> courts in Fairfax, they DO NOT prosecute for
> perjury. Ever.

I don't even have to call and ask them something so stupid like "you guys don't prosecute perjury offenses, right?"

You really have no idea how the judicial system works, do you?

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I see the ignorance my friend GordonBlvd told me about....This is rich.

Why don't you want to move on? I'm already regretting the brain cells I've killed reading this.

My God, why don't you people get off your asses and do something about it, buy that stamp, bitch to someone who can change things. Why would you rather try to figure out ip addresses than do some good in your community???? BTW, as far as that goes, sometimes friends let friends use their computers, and I don't know about you, but I usually don't ask them what they're doing in detail, know what I mean??? Honestly, I ignored my bff's "trolling" as you put it til yesterday....and I shall go back to ignoring it...none of you imbeciles care about where you live or what it's like, you just want to blame everyone else. It's quite sad. I know if nothing else GB wants to live in a safe county, as do I, but I don't about the rest of you....

In Awe, is GordonBlvd male or female? Inquiring minds want to know.

Ut videam Wrote:
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> Heeeeeeeeeeeere's Davey!

I don't know what that proves other than he had an assault charge reduced to a disorderly conduct charge (which means it wasn't really an assault charge).

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Actually I do know how the judicial system works, as I work for the Fairfax County Circuit Court system. It was my child who gave me the information about the Smith's prior acts. Unfortunately, it was after the verdict when I went home and spoke to her about it. She then pointed me to some other friends, who confirmed what she had said. This morning I researched both Maryland and Virginia databases for David Smith, as Steven Smith is a juvenile, that is something for the detectives to acquire. Since I live in the area that the murder occurred in, I do have concerns for my daughter's safety. I asked about perjury, hoping to have something to keep the Smiths in jail, but was told by 3 prosecutors and 1 Circuit Court judge, that Fairfax does not prosecute for perjury. You do not know any of the families involved, by your own admission, but you seem to have appointed yourself some type of advocate for the Smiths. Carry on, but you will be bitterly disappointed, because their true nature will resurface, again with devastating results.

Actually I do know how the judicial system works, as I work for the Fairfax County Circuit Court system.
Hope you are someone you has the authority to use our taxes while at work to look up people. And if you are, that's even worse, blogging about it from work. Our taxes, OMG!

It proves that he was on probation when he confesed to the pd that he fought the victim.
letter sent


MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Ut videam Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Heeeeeeeeeeeere's Davey!
>
> I don't know what that proves other than he had an
> assault charge reduced to a disorderly conduct
> charge (which means it wasn't really an assault
> charge).

YUP U sound like a smith lawer

Questionable Wrote:
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> Re: Steven Smith 15yrs old Ordered to Stand Trial
> as a Adult in the Murder of Wyatt Campbell
> Posted by: Questionable ()
> Date: July 11, 2011 02:50PM
>
> Understand where you are coming from, extremely
> doubtful though that this will result into
> anything. Based on a not guilty verdict he no
> longer has a record this too would apply to the
> misdemeanor charges (was reduced) that placed him
> on probation. I would think in turn, the 15-year
> old could get written statements from neighboring
> kids that had bought drugs from the victim and the
> fact that the victims' brother and friends are
> also located in the community even though as of
> today, they have not gott'n caught for their
> illegal actions but are known to the community and
> surrounding areas. Remember they are associated
> with those guys, Randy Taylor and Tony Perez
> (currently both on probation, one is a felon).
> Don't think the suggestion would get off the
> ground for many reasons. Just putting further hope
> and frustration on many.
>
> As you know once a jury makes a decision it
> stands. We see that in the Casey Anthony trial
> where the public is in an outrage but the public
> can't do anything. No record, case closed. The
> only thing that can happen at this point, is that
> ALL learn what not to do, don't mess with drugs,
> be responsible citizens; and understand that the
> end result is not favorable for either party.

In Awe Wrote:
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> I see the ignorance my friend GordonBlvd told me
> about....This is rich.
>
> Why don't you want to move on? I'm already
> regretting the brain cells I've killed reading
> this.
>
> My God, why don't you people get off your asses
> and do something about it, buy that stamp, bitch
> to someone who can change things. Why would you
> rather try to figure out ip addresses than do some
> good in your community???? BTW, as far as that
> goes, sometimes friends let friends use their
> computers, and I don't know about you, but I
> usually don't ask them what they're doing in
> detail, know what I mean??? Honestly, I ignored
> my bff's "trolling" as you put it til
> yesterday....and I shall go back to ignoring
> it...none of you imbeciles care about where you
> live or what it's like, you just want to blame
> everyone else. It's quite sad. I know if nothing
> else GB wants to live in a safe county, as do I,
> but I don't about the rest of you....

Now that is a riot. Everybody on Fairfax Underground Knows Gordon Blvd DOESN'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS!!! roflmao

But thank you for not posting another trash jpg this time.
excuse the off topic

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> ...Oh, this is rich. So you've spent all this time
> calling us liars, trolls, terrible people, and
> chiding us for discussing this topic and you don't
> even live here?!
>
> In other words, you're just some morally
> self-righteous asshole spouting his morally
> self-righteous bullshit for the sake of being a
> morally self-righteous asshole. Thank the gods you
> don't live here anymore. We've got enough
> douchebags as it is.
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If you could have comprehended the posts on these threads, I've been pointing out that I haven't lived there for quite some time. I've also been stating that I never even met Wyatt Campbell or the Smith's.
The funny thing is that if it hadn't been for the mostly delussional crap you have been posting I would have left a long time ago.

Bystander is just a username on a forum.
Glad to see you are back on your meds...

to mr mephisto Wrote:
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> Actually I do know how the judicial system works,
> as I work for the Fairfax County Circuit Court
> system.

The rest of your post completely contradicts this statement.

> It was my child who gave me the
> information about the Smith's prior acts.

So you work for the courts and you have serious concerns about the Smiths, but you had to get information about the Smiths from your daugther?

> Unfortunately, it was after the verdict when I
> went home and spoke to her about it. She then
> pointed me to some other friends, who confirmed
> what she had said.

So you only became concerned about David Smith after the not-guilty verdict? You do realize that David would still be free even if Steven got sent to jail, right?

> This morning I researched both
> Maryland and Virginia databases for David Smith,
> as Steven Smith is a juvenile, that is something
> for the detectives to acquire.

I bet you were disappointed with what you found. Not nearly as juicy as you thought it would be, huh?

> Since I live in the area that the murder occurred in, I do have
> concerns for my daughter's safety.

Tell her not to rob people or get involved with drug trafficking and she won't end up in Wyatt's situation.

You people still cannot get it through your thick heads that the Smith kid did NOT pick Wyatt out at random because he just wanted to murder someone. Smith and Campbell got into a fight over some past problems that they had, and Campbell lost the fight.

> I asked about perjury, hoping to have something to keep the
> Smiths in jail,

That's not your fucking place. You are not a cop, judge, prosecutor, or Batman.

How do you not understand that these kids were running around before you heard about them? Your daughter is in just as much danger now as she was in September 2011 before the fight even happened.

> but was told by 3 prosecutors and
> 1 Circuit Court judge, that Fairfax does not
> prosecute for perjury.

You are a liar. If there was no penalty for perjury, then everyone would lie on the witness stand and the judicial system would collapse in on itself.

Do you even know what perjury means?

> You do not know any of the
> families involved, by your own admission, but you
> seem to have appointed yourself some type of
> advocate for the Smiths.

I am an advocate for Common Sense. I've said repeatedly that both parties were to blame for what happened, but you clearly did not read that because it doesn't fit into your preconceived narrative. The Smith kid made stupid choices, the Campbell kid made stupid choices.

The whole reason our judicial system exists in its current state is to protect the accused from people like you who assume guilt based not on evidence, but on assumptions and personal opinions.

> Carry on, but you will
> be bitterly disappointed, because their true
> nature will resurface, again with devastating
> results.

This isn't one of your Lifetime Channel movies, so you can drop the melodrama. Two kids got into a fight, one got killed, the other got arrested. It's happened thousands of times in this country, it's happening somewhere RIGHT NOW even as I write this, and it will happen thousands of more times in the future.

You really want to protect your daughter? Raise her to be smarter than the people who support Campbell's choices that night.

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Jammie Wrote:
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> It proves that he was on probation when he
> confesed to the pd that he fought the victim.

So you're telling me that you're smarter than the cops? You're saying that, despite their full, unfettered access to criminal records, they completely overlooked the fact that David violated his probation? Do you really think the police are that fucking stupid?

If they didn't arrest him when they pinched his little brother, what makes any of you idiots think they're going to go back and arrest him now that the trial is done?

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Bystander Wrote:
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> If you could have comprehended the posts on these
> threads, I've been pointing out that I haven't
> lived there for quite some time. I've also been
> stating that I never even met Wyatt Campbell or
> the Smith's.

I skipped most of your posts because they contain nothing than colorful, poorly-written sentences with name-calling, insults, and blatant stupidity.

> The funny thing is that if it hadn't been for the
> mostly delussional crap you have been posting I
> would have left a long time ago.

The funny thing is that you don't know anyone involved, you don't live here, and yet you follow Gordon and I in these threads, responding to our discussion of the subject with name-calling and childish repetition of "YOU'RE A TROLL, GET BACK ON YOUR MEDS."

Go look up "hypocrite" in the dictionary.

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man, have I missed a lot..........LoLz


@OMG +1

@to mr mephisto - so yr thinking yr daughter is gonna rob someone and get stabbed in retaliation? Cause that's kinda what went down here, y'know. Tell her to not rob anyone and I'm sure she'll be fine and dandy, k?

@Mr Mephisto - I doubt that not being charged with a crime violates probation LoLz

@Ut - I cant even imagine why you'd really want to know LoLz

@In Awe - did I say ignorance? It is pretty rich, isnt it? Most ppl would not be seen in such an "innocent" light for trying to fight children with a golf club, eh?

@Questionable - you may be asking a LOT from ppl who call their home "Rose Hood" to follow that whole "don't mess with drugs, be responsible citizens" vibe.........

@Bystander - Arlington County? really? sigh.............

@Lola.......................that's pretty deep, yo. +1

@to mephisto (again) - it can kinda be his fault if he made choices that DIRECTLY led to his death. Kinda like if you know a electrical item is faulty, yet you choose to continue to use it and it shocks you to death.

@to know nothing - it seems like it was a game to Wyatt - if not, then why the golf club? LoLz

and FINALLY @toGordon - link please to where this robbery never happened. And if so, then why the hate-on for Wyatt? Why'd this all go down if it's not about him robbing the boys earlier? Explain that, my good man or lady...

ok, unrelated pic time :)
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Wow, this is the thread that just won't die. AND...two back-to-back (LolZ) postings by Mefisto and Gordon.

That has to be a record, Gordon, responding to 11 different posts at one time, AND attaching an unrelated image...

Why don't you go visit a nursing home, or help a neighbor, or something...

Colo. parents charged after youth baseball brawl
The fight involved at least six adults; one player hospitalized

CASTLE ROCK, Colo. — Police charged three parents — including the town prosecutor — with third-degree assault and disorderly conduct after a brawl during a youth baseball tournament put a player in a hospital, a city official said Monday.

The fight involved at least six adults during a game for 12-year-olds, and police were still trying to sort out what triggered the brawl and who was involved, KUSA-TV reported.

The defendants insisted they were trying to protect their children from attack.

"It's really unfortunate for the kids that play," said police Lt. Tim Gorman. "You're taking the whole fun part of it out."

Andrew Lee Carlson, his wife, Shannon Carlson, and Christy Ausmus, a prosecutor contracted by the town of Castle Rock, were charged after the June 26 melee, town spokeswoman Kim Mutchler told The Associated Press.

Shannon Carlson and her son said they were trying to dispute an umpire's call when the fight erupted, according to a police report. Ausmus and her own son also were at the scene in a pavilion near a ballfield.

The boys got into a dispute, and Ausmus claimed Andrew Carlson attacked her son from behind, put him in a chokehold and punched him. Ausmus said the boy, 16, eventually was hospitalized with a concussion.

"I hit (Carlson) as hard as I could, as many times as I could, to get him off my kid," Ausmus said. "He suffers constant headaches still from the concussion."
Carlson insisted he was defending his own 15-year-old son from Ausmus' son.
"This kid is assaulting my son and I pulled him off," Carlson said. "Then this lady just tarted attacking me. She attacked me and started punching me three or four times in the face. Then she went after my wife, punched her, pushed her over a bench."

"It's a sad day for youth baseball," Carlson said.

Fights are everywhere, anything can happen. It's a sad day when tempers get the best of a situation. The outcome charges and one concussion. Thank God no one had a weapon(s) of some sort.

@OMG - scary shit .............and VERY sad

@amazing - I am helping neighbors! Helping them realize that taking weapons to shopping centers and getting into fights with children is a bad idea :)
which is amazing to me cause I thought all y'all knew that already....................

In Awe Wrote:
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> I see the ignorance my friend GordonBlvd told me
> about....This is rich.
>
> Why don't you want to move on? I'm already
> regretting the brain cells I've killed reading
> this.
>
> My God, why don't you people get off your asses
> and do something about it, buy that stamp, bitch
> to someone who can change things. Why would you
> rather try to figure out ip addresses than do some
> good in your community???? BTW, as far as that
> goes, sometimes friends let friends use their
> computers, and I don't know about you, but I
> usually don't ask them what they're doing in
> detail, know what I mean??? Honestly, I ignored
> my bff's "trolling" as you put it til
> yesterday....and I shall go back to ignoring
> it...none of you imbeciles care about where you
> live or what it's like, you just want to blame
> everyone else. It's quite sad. I know if nothing
> else GB wants to live in a safe county, as do I,
> but I don't about the rest of you....

Your a friend of Gordon's ?? enough said ...your not wanted here either ..So SFTU and go roam another room with your troll friend

OMG! Wrote:
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> Actually I do know how the judicial system works,
> as I work for the Fairfax County Circuit Court
> system.
> Hope you are someone you has the authority to use
> our taxes while at work to look up people. And if
> you are, that's even worse, blogging about it from
> work. Our taxes, OMG!


OMG, who cares, half the people on here, write from work, LIKE OMG!, did it occur to you she or he might be on a break!

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Bystander Wrote:
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> > If you could have comprehended the posts on
> these
> > threads, I've been pointing out that I haven't
> > lived there for quite some time. I've also been
> > stating that I never even met Wyatt Campbell or
> > the Smith's.
>
> I skipped most of your posts because they contain
> nothing than colorful, poorly-written sentences
> with name-calling, insults, and blatant
> stupidity.
>
> > The funny thing is that if it hadn't been for
> the
> > mostly delussional crap you have been posting I
> > would have left a long time ago.
>
> The funny thing is that you don't know anyone
> involved, you don't live here, and yet you follow
> Gordon and I in these threads, responding to our
> discussion of the subject with name-calling and
> childish repetition of "YOU'RE A TROLL, GET BACK
> ON YOUR MEDS."
>
> Go look up "hypocrite" in the dictionary.

You know none of involved either, so why are you jumping on him. You are quick to call people nasty names in fact scroll up, you called BYSTANDER a asshole among other things. Yet in his posts not once did he use "vulgar" words about you. You just don't like them because he dosen't agree with you and called you on your BS.

oh wonderful Wrote:
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>
> Your a friend of Gordon's ?? enough said ...your
> not wanted here either ..So SFTU and go roam
> another room with your troll friend


or what? you'll take a golf club to her or something? LoLz

learn the defination of PUBLIC FORUM! and try to do what she's doing when you post........
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>
>
> >
> > Your a friend of Gordon's ?? enough said
> ...your
> > not wanted here either ..So SFTU and go roam
> > another room with your troll friend
>
>
> or what? you'll take a golf club to her or
> something? LoLz
>
> learn the defination of PUBLIC FORUM! and try to
> do what she's doing when you post........


Wow acting like a 5 year old! Why does that not surprise me. Ill pass on the golf club since my life is not be threatened by a gun that looks real. yes I know what a public forum is, I am not stupid, like you would like to think I am. With that said it doesn't mean we want another Troll on here.

@ohwonderful - if you think that gun looked real, then why didnt Wyatt? As apparently, he continued to fight.......
p.s. even most 5 year olds know not to get into fights behind shopping centers. Maybe that's something you should understand as well.

Your The Hypocrite Wrote:
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> Yet in his posts not
> once did he use "vulgar" words about you. You
> just don't like them because he dosen't agree with
> you and called you on your BS.

He didn't agree with me, so he repeatedly just called me (and others) trolls, liars, and crazy people (with all the "get back on your meds" comments). He is a cock-sucking asshole. Fuck that guy.

When someone refuses to have a civil conversation about some hoodlum getting stabbed, I can jump on them as much as I want.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Your The Hypocrite Wrote:
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> >
> about some hoodlum getting stabbed, I can jump on
> them as much as I want.


Wyatt was not a "Hoodlum" & you should take to the road.

OMG, who cares, half the people on here, write from work, LIKE OMG!, did it occur to you she or he might be on a break!
I do, it's my/our taxes that are paying "her" salary, and yes "her". She can do her blogging after work hours as most "professionals" do.

Definition of Professional:
Because of the personal and confidential nature of many professional services and thus the necessity to place a great deal of trust in them, most professionals are held up to strict ethical and moral regulations.

Characterized by or conforming to the technical or ethical standards of a profession. Exhibiting a courteous, conscientious, and generally businesslike manner in the workplace.

Engaged in by persons receiving financial return.

So working for the Fairfax County Judicial System or any upscale agency/department (county, state; or federal), professionalism is expected!
Whether you believe in it or understand it.
Take your sarcasm elsewhere on this!

6X Wrote:
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> Wyatt was not a "Hoodlum" & you should take to
> the road.

Pop quiz:

Wyatt Campbell was stabbed:

A) On his way home from choir practice at the local church.

B) Walking to the homeless shelter, where he serves food to under-privileged orphans.

C) Coming home from his job at a popular retail chain.

D) In a dirty alleyway by a kid he agreed to meet for a fight because he supposedly robbed said kid a couple months prior, stealing his iPod and asking if they had drugs he could also steal.

Take your time. Show all your work.

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E) none of the above.

Incorrect. F-. The correct answer was D).

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@6x so please to be telling us how you came to that conclusion, and to why he got stabbed.........

and PLEASE use logic

OMG! Wrote:
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> OMG, who cares, half the people on here, write
> from work, LIKE OMG!, did it occur to you she or
> he might be on a break!
> I do, it's my/our taxes that are paying "her"
> salary, and yes "her". She can do her blogging
> after work hours as most "professionals" do.
>
> Definition of Professional:
> Because of the personal and confidential nature of
> many professional services and thus the necessity
> to place a great deal of trust in them, most
> professionals are held up to strict ethical and
> moral regulations.
>
> Characterized by or conforming to the technical or
> ethical standards of a profession. Exhibiting a
> courteous, conscientious, and generally
> businesslike manner in the workplace.
>
> Engaged in by persons receiving financial return.
>
>
> So working for the Fairfax County Judicial System
> or any upscale agency/department (county, state;
> or federal), professionalism is expected!
> Whether you believe in it or understand it.
> Take your sarcasm elsewhere on this!

Take your bullshit somewhere else. Like OMG I dunno know out of this forum and Rose Hill....Just curious though you work I am amusing days??? if you do and it is daytime, then it is ok for you to post on here during the day?? But not someone else???

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Your The Hypocrite Wrote:
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> > Yet in his posts not
> > once did he use "vulgar" words about you. You
> > just don't like them because he dosen't agree
> with
> > you and called you on your BS.
>
> He didn't agree with me, so he repeatedly just
> called me (and others) trolls, liars, and crazy
> people (with all the "get back on your meds"
> comments). He is a cock-sucking asshole. Fuck
> that guy.
>
> When someone refuses to have a civil conversation
> about some hoodlum getting stabbed, I can jump on
> them as much as I want.

yeah you can, you have that right to say what you want, BUT do not turn around though when you or Gordon are called on why you say nasty remarks to people and claim innocence. That is what is total Bullshit

again, show me a quote where I've said nasty remarks to ppl. Where have I threatened to harm ppl? If it's total bullshit, SHOW ME THE MONEY! And dont say I've called Wyatt stupid cause all I've EVER done is say that his CHOICES are stupid so quit twisting that shit up. Never met the dude, so I have NO IDEA if he was a dumbass or not- but I can definitely say he made stupid choices that night that helped led up to his demise and if you cant see that it's a bad idea to leave yr house with a weapon to go to some back alley of a shopping center (that YOU DONT OWN, BY THE WAY - imagine if someone came to your back yard to fight) to go and fight some children - if you cant see that as a BAD IDEA, then yr the one with the probs, not me

still waiting for yr answer 6x.........................

the main objection is your repeated use of "to fight children". By the defendent's brother's own testimony, Steven wasn't in sight. It's a matter of opinion as to whether he was lying in ambush or pussing out per his brother's testimony. NOT A SINGLE WITNESS was able to state that Wyatt Campbell went to fight the 16 year old, rather he went to defend Randy Taylor's vehicle (again per the defense testimony), after the defendent and his brother broke into it, setting off the alarm. And again per the defense's testimony and an independeant withness, this occurred after the 23 year old assaulted Wyatt Campbell after making a U-turn to confront and punch the 120 lb 18 year old.

to gordon blvd Wrote:
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> the main objection is your repeated use of "to
> fight children". By the defendent's brother's own
> testimony, Steven wasn't in sight. It's a matter
> of opinion as to whether he was lying in ambush or
> pussing out per his brother's testimony. NOT A
> SINGLE WITNESS was able to state that Wyatt
> Campbell went to fight the 16 year old, rather he
> went to defend Randy Taylor's vehicle (again per
> the defense testimony), after the defendent and
> his brother broke into it, setting off the alarm.
> And again per the defense's testimony and an
> independeant withness, this occurred after the 23
> year old assaulted Wyatt Campbell after making a
> U-turn to confront and punch the 120 lb 18 year
> old.

Where the hell are you getting this information? It doesn't count if you write it down and use yourself as a source.

http://kingstowne.patch.com/articles/defense-calls-victims-grandmother-brother-in-murder-trial

The prosecution called James Lewis, a Rose Hill man who was walking into the 7-Eleven when the argument brought out between Campbell, a friend, and the defendant and his brother over whether Campbell had robbed the defendant.

...

"[Perez and Taylor] just ran at me and started punching," David said. When David could see his younger brother fighting Campbell, he saw Campbell swinging something at him, then trying to tackle his younger brother.

By the defendent's brother's own testimony, Wyatt attacked Steven. Granted, you think David is a liar, but the testimony contradicts your statement.

Another thing people choose to not acknowledge:

Soon, Campbell said he had been hurt. Taylor left in his car, and Perez and Campbell left in Perez's Cherokee.

The Smith kid was so intent on murdering Wyatt that they let him leave to go to the hospital?

Again, all signs point to this being an unfortunate conclusion to a situation created by both parties. Wyatt didn't have to rob Steven, David didn't have to confront Wyatt in the 7-11 parking lot, Wyatt didn't have to return to the alley with a weapon, Steven didn't have to stab him, Wyatt didn't need to die, Steven didn't have to go to jail. Poor choices were made across the board.

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I was in the courtroom, I saw the video footage that shows David Smith blocking Wyatt Campbell in the car, I heard David Smith state that his brother was "hiding" behind his (David Smith's) car where he couldn't be seen. Arguably, an ambush or a pussy. Both of the Smith witnesses gave sworn police statements that were read in court stating the WYATT DID NOT ROB THEM, AND WYATT DID NOT TOUCH THEM. The Smiths assaulted Wyatt Campbell and it was he who was fighting for his life. Jury fucked up, but another one will get a chance at the Smiths because they will do it again. Maybe PG County will lock him up

So the Kingstown Patch is lying in their article.

Good to know. The Smiths could probably sue them for libel, then.

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MrMephisto Wrote:



"[Perez and Taylor] just ran at me and started punching," David said. When David could see his younger brother fighting Campbell, he saw Campbell swinging something at him, then trying to tackle his younger brother.

By the defendent's brother's own testimony, Wyatt attacked Steven. Granted, you think David is a liar, but the testimony contradicts your statement.



David didn't say Wyatt attacked Steven. He said he saw them fighting.

Was it Wyatt or Will that got kicked out of elementary school for burning down the playground?

6X Wrote:
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> David didn't say Wyatt attacked Steven. He said he
> saw them fighting.

So if I swing something at you then try to tackle you, I'm not actually attacking?

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to mr mephisto Wrote:
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> I was in the courtroom, I saw the video footage
> that shows David Smith blocking Wyatt Campbell in
> the car

The Patch article Mephisto linked to said they couldn't describe what was on the video because it was turned away from the spectators and not shown to the public.

If you saw it, what does it show?

- Does the video show whether David Smith "pushed" Wyatt's head (as he testified), or did he punch Wyatt in the head, as Randy Taylor testified?

- Does the video show whether Wyatt pull a switchblade, as David Smith claimed? ("David said Campbell then tried to get out of the car while pulling the spring-loaded knife that was later found amongst his personal effects in the hospital.")

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> 6X Wrote:
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> -----
> > David didn't say Wyatt attacked Steven. He said
> he
> > saw them fighting.
>
> So if I swing something at you then try to tackle
> you, I'm not actually attacking?


Not if I'm hiding behind a car then jump out and stab you with a deadly weapon. That would be selfdefense.

neither one burned down the playground, it was the accusation that impelled the school board to agree with their mother and administratively assign them to a school of her choosing. It was also the accusation that led to Dr. Marcy Mager's resignation. Try another one shithead

the video footage was clear to those of us in the front rows, we could actually see it better than the jury at that time. It shows Mr. Campbell being pinned in the car, it shows Mr. Smith throwing a punch, it does not show Mr. Campbell attempting to get out or with his hands in his pockets. It shows Mr. Campbell clutching his head. Based on the ME's description of Mr. Campbell's wounds, it would have been impossible for him to have "tackled Steven Smith" as described. More likely it was an attempt by the victim to not fall down after being stabbed 4 and 1/2 inches into his chest. Along with the wounds that that demolished his internal organs, punctured his lung, and entered his heart. Not very likely this was self-defense. Oh yes, lets not forget the stab wounds to this victims back as he tried to get away from the murderous onslaught of Steven Smith.

6X Wrote:
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> Not if I'm hiding behind a car then jump out and
> stab you with a deadly weapon. That would be
> selfdefense.

I also heard that Steven shot Wyatt with his laser eye beams before flying to the moon to play Backgammon with Kim Jong Il's dog.

See, I can make up fantastical stories, too.

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video Wrote:
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> the video footage was clear to those of us in the
> front rows, we could actually see it better than
> the jury at that time. It shows Mr. Campbell
> being pinned in the car, it shows Mr. Smith
> throwing a punch, it does not show Mr. Campbell
> attempting to get out or with his hands in his
> pockets. It shows Mr. Campbell clutching his
> head.


If, as you describe, the video contradicted David Smith's testimony about pushing vs. punching Wyatt's head, and about Wyatt pulling a switchblade, then David Smith was "impeached," i.e., his credibility as a witness was called into question.

If what you're saying about the videotape is accurate, I would have given *no* credence to David Smith's testimony about the alley fight if I had been a juror in that case (the jury has the sole prerogative of weighing the credibility of a witness and determining his truthfulness).

-- If you saw it, did the prosecution's closing argument bring out the fact that Smith was impeached on the basis of the video?

The obvious point to be made: If you can't trust Smith's testimony when it comes to an event that was recorded on videotape, then how much credence should you give his testimony about events that were not videotaped, such as his description of the Wyatt-Steven fight?


-- Also, if you saw it - what was your opinion of the prosecution's closing argument?

video Wrote:
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> the video footage was clear to those of us in the
> front rows, we could actually see it better than
> the jury at that time. It shows Mr. Campbell
> being pinned in the car, it shows Mr. Smith
> throwing a punch, it does not show Mr. Campbell
> attempting to get out or with his hands in his
> pockets. It shows Mr. Campbell clutching his
> head. Based on the ME's description of Mr.
> Campbell's wounds, it would have been impossible
> for him to have "tackled Steven Smith" as
> described. More likely it was an attempt by the
> victim to not fall down after being stabbed 4 and
> 1/2 inches into his chest. Along with the wounds
> that that demolished his internal organs,
> punctured his lung, and entered his heart. Not
> very likely this was self-defense. Oh yes, lets
> not forget the stab wounds to this victims back as
> he tried to get away from the murderous onslaught
> of Steven Smith.

I was at the trial too, and this is NOT what was shown on the video. The video in question was not very clear, but it did not contradict David's testimony.

The first part of it was kind of weak, she was better in her rebuttal argument, but she did not refute the sheer ridiculousness of the self-defense argument, not did she refute the fact that the defendent did not live in Rose Hill but Winslow. She just didn't outline her case to the jury well enough. There were parts that were outstanding, but the defense spoke for almost 30 minutes, and even with 2 chances she spoke less than 20

to @ video Wrote:
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> The first part of it was kind of weak, she was
> better in her rebuttal argument, but she did not
> refute the sheer ridiculousness of the
> self-defense argument...

We'll never know what happened in that alley, but if the prosecution did not meticulously critique the self-defense argument, carefully addressing and rebutting (if possible) each and every point raised by the defense, then the prosecution screwed up.

I was at the trial too, and this is NOT what was shown on the video. The video in question was not very clear, but it did not contradict David's testimony.

You are absolutely correct! It's amazing how the story on this subject matter consistently gets twisted which leads to lies or nonfictional facts.

the only ones who could see the video clearly were the members of the victim's family, the attorneys, and the people sitting behind the victim's family. The defendent himself had to be moved so he could see it. The placement of the tv made it impossible for those sitting on the defendent's side of the courtroom to see the video clearly. Keep on trying though

you must be the fat lady with the blond wig and the porcine face with the seat of her pants stuck in the crack of her ass

herd mama smith has cunt cancer thas why she not there las week...any tru cuz she got poison babies cumming out of her cunny

you must be the fat lady with the blond wig and the porcine face with the seat of her pants stuck in the crack of her ass

Guess again, mouth~
Look how the low class from Rose Hill speaks.
Your making your community proud :)
Didn't I read the word, trash~now mouth can be added.

herd mama smith has cunt cancer thas why she not there las week...any tru cuz she got poison babies cumming out of her cunny

Another outstanding representation from Rose Hill.

yo from kingstown bitch

So is her twat rotting or what

yo from kingstown bitch
Another outstanding representation from Rose Hill

Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: July 12, 2011 06:46AM
@Occoquan - dont think that what you see here is a representation of Rose Hill as a whole - actually FAR from it.
I'm sure there's some good people, but the one's that are coming on here are not a great representation of Rose Hill! It's a real shame, makes one actually think that trash lives there. Maybe you and some of your neighbors could get together and do something about it, change and restore it. Had some relatives that lived there when 1st established, totally and sadly different now. Good Luck!

Don live in rose hill stoopid

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> 6X Wrote:
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> > Not if I'm hiding behind a car then jump out
> and
> > stab you with a deadly weapon. That would be
> > selfdefense.
>
> I also heard that Steven shot Wyatt with his laser
> eye beams before flying to the moon to play
> Backgammon with Kim Jong Il's dog.
>
> See, I can make up fantastical stories, too.


Your not funny so ..GTFO David said Steven was hiding behide his car. Steven stabbed Wyatt 12 times with a weapon that ended his life. Thats the facts.

David said Wyatt was from the future and he flew in on his jetpack and shot the window of the car out with thermonuclear missiles. Steven didn't actually stab him, he shot Wyatt 12 times with a gun that shoots knives because that's all time traveling alien cyborgs are vulnerable to. That's the facts.

We can do this all day.

There are people who are paid to gather facts and evidence for use in a trial, and they are saying something way, way different than anything you and I are coming up with.

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Hah. Notice that 6X tries the hardest to be a member of the club. Yet, when you mention anything negative about Wyatt Campbell, 6X turns into a yelping, scorned little bitch.

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