my bet Wrote:
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> I agree there Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I don't think they deliberated more than a
> couple
> > of hours. I always thought the judge would ask
> > them to keep trying.
>
> One of the reports said the jurors were not
> talking to each other. I'm betting that there was
> a serious conflict on the jury. Maybe, heated
> exchanges.
I'm sure it got Phoenix in July heated back there in the jury room.
I imagine there were several middle-aged moderate jurors that saw this case as clearly self-defense. And I am sure there were several social justice Warrior types that believe that since a minority was now dead, someone must pay. This is what is scary about America today. This case could not be any clearer 4 an act of self-defense.
I think one of the lessons learned from this case is that one should be very worried if they use deadly force in any fashion in a jurisdiction that leans liberal. You got to ask yourself, if this incident had occurred in Fauquier County would Kempton even had been charged with a crime? Conversely, if this incident had occurred in PG County, what are the odds that the jury would have found him guilty as a $3 bill?

Something such as self-defense should never be a political issue, but sadly and today's America it has become politicized. You got to wonder if this incident had occurred in Fairfax in say 1999 or earlier, would the police have arrested him? How much of this was dictated by the fact that the person who was killed was a minority female?


I am typically 100% behind the police, but not in this incident. Shame on Fairfax County Police for not doing a thorough investigation and realizing that this was a clear-cut case of self-defense and not murder. Very disturbing that the police did not do a thorough job of protecting this young man when he begged for help earlier in the evening. I definitely Echo the sentiments of others on here that say he should sue the Fairfax County Police Department and the county over this incident...

And as far as retrying the case goes, I highly doubt that that will happen. I seriously doubt that there was only one juror who thought he was not guilty. As long as there were at least two or three jurors who thought he was not guilty, there's no way the Commonwealth will take the chance on trying this case again.

Did she have a lethal weapon on her? If someone comes up to me and picks a fight with me, I'm not going to kill them. I'll run, push them off or fight back. Unless they come up to me with a knife or gun, that's a different story. I don't think he should be charged with murder, I think the lowest manslaughter charge with a few years probation and no jail time would be appropriate.

Not so clear-cut Wrote:
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> Did she have a lethal weapon on her? If someone
> comes up to me and picks a fight with me, I'm not
> going to kill them. I'll run, push them off or
> fight back. Unless they come up to me with a knife
> or gun, that's a different story. I don't think he
> should be charged with murder, I think the lowest
> manslaughter charge with a few years probation and
> no jail time would be appropriate.


My understanding is that she was a large woman. Also, that she had his back against a railing which was a nine foot drop. According to Bonds, she had his hands around his neck. I do not know if that is true or not. The witnesses gave false testimony until the video appeared. So, it is hard to know.
The woman was heard on the video saying that she had "bail money" and was going to attack him--she used other words with that meaning.

Truth? I don't know, but there is sure reasonable doubt. After all, he had called for help earlier--was that justified--don't know, but it was clear he felt threatened.

@ b. juckss ()

do to tell?

could the reason be attributed perhaps to your utter lack of any socially redeemable value? =:8?P

Not so clear-cut Wrote:
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> Did she have a lethal weapon on her? If someone
> comes up to me and picks a fight with me, I'm not
> going to kill them. I'll run, push them off or
> fight back. Unless they come up to me with a knife
> or gun, that's a different story. I don't think he
> should be charged with murder, I think the lowest
> manslaughter charge with a few years probation and
> no jail time would be appropriate.

I see where you are coming from- it's a nice quaint notion; like not hitting guys wearing glasses.

Now, there's picking a fight (and having the option to run. read as option because it's not always an option. ya know, like being stick in a corner..) and there's getting rushed and choked (ref: that whole running not an option thing). You, good sir, can trust in your attacker's semi-benign intentions to not have you end up eating through a feeding tube. The rest of us sane, rational, people would rather keep our bodies as close to OEM as the day our respective mothers gave them to us.

Now, to be clear- I think everyone would much rather none of this happened but this wasn't a case of "I knocked you down, now we can be friends." All bets were off when she got him in a corner and grabbed his neck. If this concept is hard for you to grasp, there are lots of MMA / self-defense schools in the area that would likely be happy to give you a first hand demo of what it's like to be backed in a corner and choked, just be sure account for the weight diff of the kid and the cook. Admittedly, they'll likely want to sign you up for classes and that's probably not a bad idea; then you at least can rest in the comfort that you know how to possibly recover from such a sudden attack before lack of blood/air flow renders you an unconscious meat puppet, completely at the whim and mercy of your attacker, and whatever intentions of the heretofore overtly hostile crowd cum potential mob.

p.s.

please to give our kind regards to Bud, Kathy, Betty, Wally, Eddie, Richie, and of course The Beav, for us.

see it coming Wrote:
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> Not so clear-cut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Did she have a lethal weapon on her? If someone
> > comes up to me and picks a fight with me, I'm
> not
> > going to kill them. I'll run, push them off or
> > fight back. Unless they come up to me with a
> knife
> > or gun, that's a different story. I don't think
> he
> > should be charged with murder, I think the
> lowest
> > manslaughter charge with a few years probation
> and
> > no jail time would be appropriate.
>
> I see where you are coming from- it's a nice
> quaint notion; like not hitting guys wearing
> glasses.
>
> Now, there's picking a fight (and having the
> option to run. read as option because it's not
> always an option. ya know, like being stick in a
> corner..) and there's getting rushed and choked
> (ref: that whole running not an option thing).
> You, good sir, can trust in your attacker's
> semi-benign intentions to not have you end up
> eating through a feeding tube. The rest of us
> sane, rational, people would rather keep our
> bodies as close to OEM as the day our respective
> mothers gave them to us.
>
> Now, to be clear- I think everyone would much
> rather none of this happened but this wasn't a
> case of "I knocked you down, now we can be
> friends." All bets were off when she got him in a
> corner and grabbed his neck. If this concept is
> hard for you to grasp, there are lots of MMA /
> self-defense schools in the area that would likely
> be happy to give you a first hand demo of what
> it's like to be backed in a corner and choked,
> just be sure account for the weight diff of the
> kid and the cook. Admittedly, they'll likely want
> to sign you up for classes and that's probably not
> a bad idea; then you at least can rest in the
> comfort that you know how to possibly recover from
> such a sudden attack before lack of blood/air flow
> renders you an unconscious meat puppet, completely
> at the whim and mercy of your attacker, and
> whatever intentions of the heretofore overtly
> hostile crowd cum potential mob.
>
> p.s.
>
> please to give our kind regards to Bud, Kathy,
> Betty, Wally, Eddie, Richie, and of course The
> Beav, for us.

Well stated.

For some reason there are still liberals that can't wrap their heads around the notion that there are situations where deadly force is Justified even when the perpetrator is not in possession of any "weapons" hands, feet, teeth,etc. can all be used as weapons. Strangulation can lead to serious bodily injury or death, therefore if someone of a much larger size is strangling someone else, that person has a right to defend themselves by any means necessary...



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Lock him up before he kills again, and he will if set free

He is a killer Wrote:
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> Lock him up before he kills again, and he will if
> set free



Wow, you truly are a troll...
I wonder what you would do if some obese savage was strangling you...

One of the parts of the tape that pisses me off is when she clearly attacks him, he fights back, and some idiot says "oh you hit a girl." If a 200 lb black bull dyke attacks me I'm going to punch her in her fucking face. Equal rights, equal fights, and if you dont want to get hit dont attack people.

^^ Equal rights, equal fights LOL

She clearly stated her intent to commit a crime - he had already called the police, there is no way someone can 100% "know" he didn't fear for his life.

Thug life approach may get you a reaction you don't want - as in you get dead...

The first police officer responding there was a 1 year Officer from Scotland. Officer Stewart who lied constantly under oath while Greenspun was talking to him. Perjury charge would be great also. And fire the piece of trash. He left when he was told to stay. He lied and said his boss told him to leave and go to accident scene on Lee Highway. Perjury, insubordination

So where do you draw the line? If I were to kill everyone I've been in an altercation with, I'd have a few kills under my belt. Road rage fights, bar fights, do you just kill them? Obviously most people know better, in this case it was 2 wrong people who just happened to clash. A negress thug met a socially inept kid, most normal people would have de-escalated a petty situation like that very easily.

Not so clear-cut Wrote:
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> So where do you draw the line? If I were to kill
> everyone I've been in an altercation with, I'd
> have a few kills under my belt. Road rage fights,
> bar fights, do you just kill them? Obviously most
> people know better, in this case it was 2 wrong
> people who just happened to clash. A negress thug
> met a socially inept kid, most normal people would
> have de-escalated a petty situation like that very
> easily.

..and ends right about at the point where you put your hands around another person throat. oh, have you thought of possibly anger management? you appear, by your own admission, to get into a lot of trouble when out and about. sorry, it was to easy to pass up. kidding aside. You are correct- none of this should have happened. Normal "people" would also not feel need to inject negress while making their, otherwise almost sound, observation. (-500 points for Slitherin!)

A room full of angry adults getting each other excited vs a literal wet behind the ears kid (who appears to be those rare oddities that's never before suffered the harsh reality of humans aspiring to their worst; group dynamics, mob mentality, and transference of aggression at play. It shouldn't have happened, there were at least 20 adults present- chronologically anyway. Mentally, not so much- vs an actual kid. yet none proved themselves an adult by either deed or action. What that video shows is more akin to something one would expect from all these you-tube fight videos or that whatjamacallit?, worldstart, wait- worldstar! (and yes. I took a sec and googled it.)

So. to recap.
be mean to someone - shame on you.
say nasty things - more shame on you.
punch someone on the arm - bad dog. bad dog. and, you might get your lights lit.

wrap you hands around someones neck - it's a crap shoot and the dice are loaded. Unless your stance is that you're the buttmuch with the road rage / bar issues and rather the general public at large stop resisting, fighting back, and just meekly accept whatever harm comes their way? yeah, that seems legit.

Not so clear-cut Wrote:
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> So where do you draw the line? If I were to kill
> everyone I've been in an altercation with, I'd
> have a few kills under my belt. Road rage fights,
> bar fights, do you just kill them? Obviously most
> people know better, in this case it was 2 wrong
> people who just happened to clash. A negress thug
> met a socially inept kid, most normal people would
> have de-escalated a petty situation like that very
> easily.


As you say, he was socially inept and she had a mob of supporters egging her on.

If you were in an altercation with someone that weighed almost 2X your weight who had their hands around you throat while being pushed up against a wall...then yes you can respond with lethal force, at least in my book and likely most others. Obviously each circumstance differs which dictates that level of response that is reasonable.

0=-93546 Wrote:
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> Not so clear-cut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So where do you draw the line? If I were to
> kill
> > everyone I've been in an altercation with, I'd
> > have a few kills under my belt. Road rage
> fights,
> > bar fights, do you just kill them? Obviously
> most
> > people know better, in this case it was 2 wrong
> > people who just happened to clash. A negress
> thug
> > met a socially inept kid, most normal people
> would
> > have de-escalated a petty situation like that
> very
> > easily.
>
>
> As you say, he was socially inept and she had a
> mob of supporters egging her on.
>
> If you were in an altercation with someone that
> weighed almost 2X your weight who had their hands
> around you throat while being pushed up against a
> wall...then yes you can respond with lethal force,
> at least in my book and likely most others.
> Obviously each circumstance differs which dictates
> that level of response that is reasonable.

The part that really bothers me about this whole incident is the comment about "I got bail money", then proceeds to strangle Kempton. How the Commonwealth's attorney could in good faith charge him with a crime is beyond me.
In fact, her crime was premeditated.
She states she has bail money, saying she doesn't fear jail or the consequences of committing assault.
Then proceeds to strangle Kempton.
Kempton fears for his life and gives two jabs with a legal knife. How is this not self defense scenario 101?

Oh, and those of u who don't understand self defense laws, you don't have to actually be attacked before you can defend yourself. If four guys surround you and state "were going to beat the shit out of you", guess what, you can pull out a gun and shoot at least one of the guys. If the others flee, one shot is all you would be justified with. However, if the other three charge you, u can continue using force until they stop their attack...
Being vastly outnumbered and out sized in the Kempton case is key...

metalhead Wrote:
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> 0=-93546 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Not so clear-cut Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > So where do you draw the line? If I were to
> > kill
> > > everyone I've been in an altercation with,
> I'd
> > > have a few kills under my belt. Road rage
> > fights,
> > > bar fights, do you just kill them? Obviously
> > most
> > > people know better, in this case it was 2
> wrong
> > > people who just happened to clash. A negress
> > thug
> > > met a socially inept kid, most normal people
> > would
> > > have de-escalated a petty situation like that
> > very
> > > easily.
> >
> >
> > As you say, he was socially inept and she had a
> > mob of supporters egging her on.
> >
> > If you were in an altercation with someone that
> > weighed almost 2X your weight who had their
> hands
> > around you throat while being pushed up against
> a
> > wall...then yes you can respond with lethal
> force,
> > at least in my book and likely most others.
> > Obviously each circumstance differs which
> dictates
> > that level of response that is reasonable.
>
> The part that really bothers me about this whole
> incident is the comment about "I got bail money",
> then proceeds to strangle Kempton. How the
> Commonwealth's attorney could in good faith charge
> him with a crime is beyond me.
> In fact, her crime was premeditated.
> She states she has bail money, saying she doesn't
> fear jail or the consequences of committing
> assault.
> Then proceeds to strangle Kempton.
> Kempton fears for his life and gives two jabs with
> a legal knife. How is this not self defense
> scenario 101?
>
> Oh, and those of u who don't understand self
> defense laws, you don't have to actually be
> attacked before you can defend yourself. If four
> guys surround you and state "were going to beat
> the shit out of you", guess what, you can pull out
> a gun and shoot at least one of the guys. If the
> others flee, one shot is all you would be
> justified with. However, if the other three charge
> you, u can continue using force until they stop
> their attack...
> Being vastly outnumbered and out sized in the
> Kempton case is key...

I’m with you on this. I’ve been wondering this about the Commonwealth Attorney myself. Forget the legal maneuvering. Can’t even the lawyers see beyond the emotional political drama and boil this thing down to the truth about what happened. It seems to me they have a responsibility to nullify the media hype and streamline the relevent legal facts.

metalhead Wrote:
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> see it coming Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Not so clear-cut Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Did she have a lethal weapon on her? If
> someone
> > > comes up to me and picks a fight with me, I'm
> > not
> > > going to kill them. I'll run, push them off
> or
> > > fight back. Unless they come up to me with a
> > knife
> > > or gun, that's a different story. I don't
> think
> > he
> > > should be charged with murder, I think the
> > lowest
> > > manslaughter charge with a few years
> probation
> > and
> > > no jail time would be appropriate.
> >
> > I see where you are coming from- it's a nice
> > quaint notion; like not hitting guys wearing
> > glasses.
> >
> > Now, there's picking a fight (and having the
> > option to run. read as option because it's not
> > always an option. ya know, like being stick in
> a
> > corner..) and there's getting rushed and choked
> > (ref: that whole running not an option thing).
> > You, good sir, can trust in your attacker's
> > semi-benign intentions to not have you end up
> > eating through a feeding tube. The rest of us
> > sane, rational, people would rather keep our
> > bodies as close to OEM as the day our
> respective
> > mothers gave them to us.
> >
> > Now, to be clear- I think everyone would much
> > rather none of this happened but this wasn't a
> > case of "I knocked you down, now we can be
> > friends." All bets were off when she got him in
> a
> > corner and grabbed his neck. If this concept is
> > hard for you to grasp, there are lots of MMA /
> > self-defense schools in the area that would
> likely
> > be happy to give you a first hand demo of what
> > it's like to be backed in a corner and choked,
> > just be sure account for the weight diff of the
> > kid and the cook. Admittedly, they'll likely
> want
> > to sign you up for classes and that's probably
> not
> > a bad idea; then you at least can rest in the
> > comfort that you know how to possibly recover
> from
> > such a sudden attack before lack of blood/air
> flow
> > renders you an unconscious meat puppet,
> completely
> > at the whim and mercy of your attacker, and
> > whatever intentions of the heretofore overtly
> > hostile crowd cum potential mob.
> >
> > p.s.
> >
> > please to give our kind regards to Bud, Kathy,
> > Betty, Wally, Eddie, Richie, and of course The
> > Beav, for us.
>
> Well stated.
>
> For some reason there are still liberals that
> can't wrap their heads around the notion that
> there are situations where deadly force is
> Justified even when the perpetrator is not in
> possession of any "weapons" hands, feet,
> teeth,etc. can all be used as weapons.
> Strangulation can lead to serious bodily injury or
> death, therefore if someone of a much larger size
> is strangling someone else, that person has a
> right to defend themselves by any means
> necessary...


idk how hard is it to put yourself in the victim's place? Stop listening to the media. Stop listening to the emotionally charged. Think for one second of what you would do if you were being attacked. Don’t think about what led up to anything or rationalize that you would never get yourself in a position like that. just imagine you were being physically attacked. In the moment you are being strangled, you would fight like fucking hell to get your attacker off of you any fucking way you could. Just think if you were being attacked. If you don’t fight back, there’s something wrong with you and you should be charged with something.

A knife? Thank God he had a knife with him. This young man tried his damn'est to do the right thing by his employer and the law and he did a damn fucking good job, if you ask me. Look at the opposition he had. It might as well been him against the world but he stood on what he believed to be true. And the world is mad at him for not moving off his position because some misbehaving guests won’t act like civil adults. That is not the criteria for moving your position. That’s criteria for standing your ground. What is wrong with people: the Commonwealth attorney, the police, the employer, and the guests? The media? No one understands doing the right thing in the face of opposition? Standing your ground when you know you are right. Not flinching when others want to be loud and inappropriate and make you make exceptions for them because they are behaving badly. Damn. This guys gots some moral character and I for one am proud to know it. We should have an annual parade for this guy and he should go around to the schools and teach his peers something that would help us all.

He was charged with 2nd degree murder because initially the wedding guests LIED to the police about what happened. Saying Kempton was the aggressor, saying Johns was only talking to him politely and he attacked her. Look it up, the groom specifically said that. Bunch of pos liars. I hope they are all charged with perjury. They thought they could get away with it because he was there alone and had no one on his side to back him up. Only once the video came out was Kempton let out on bond after being in jail for 3 weeks for defending himself. If only the judge would have allowed Johns' criminal record (assault, domestic violence) to be seen by the jury he would have been found completely not guilty because it was self defense against a convicted felon.

It is pretty obvious that the party guests omitted the truth. If you look at watch this video https://youtu.be/pqDEEwkjWiw?t=6m29s you can hear the lies for yourself. Though not under oath, he groom completely lied and claimed this attack was unprovoked and claimed even more incredulously that Johns "asked him politely". If you have heard the cell phone video, you know this is not the case. The lesbians in this video continue to cast racist clouds on the police, because they "look like" Bonds and even throw "Trump stickers on his car" in there for good measure. If any of these whack jobs was a prosecution witness, I would be very surprised.

The media did not seek the truth and answers. I think this is because it is a more marketable story "white kid unprovoked kills black lesbian" than what really happened. Stories like this attract the moral preeners and virtue signalers who love to share on Facebook.

I also wonder if Johns criminal record is admissable. It may be embarrassing to Bonds but I think it is also relevant that the female attacker did have a good size advantage.

I hope he gets back the home made knife and puts an notch on the handle for the dead nigger.

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> If new trial Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I would recommend trial by Judge rather than
> jury.
> > This way it will focus on the law and not about
> > some scared spineless old woman who wanted this
> > young man to go to prison. Judge will be better
> in
> > my opinion. What do you think?
>
> The choice of a bench trial or a jury trial is
> made by the defendant. Greenspun's probably afraid
> that a bench trial would result in Kempton's being
> found guilty of manslaughter, and figures his best
> chance for an outright acquittal is to put the
> case before a jury.
>
> His strategy seems to have worked so far: he's
> already managed to get one mistrial because of a
> hung jury.
>
> No way does Morrogh decide to nolle pros this
> case. They're going to go over the case with a
> fine-toothed comb and put on a much better show
> the second time around.

The Commonwealth should never have tried him the first time. There should not be a second trial.

Ray Morrogh has done an Outstanding job representing us Fairfax county residents for Decades! As an Assistant to Horan and as the Commenwealth Attorney. Many,many scumbags have committed horrendous crimes in our great county. Malvo,Mark Lawlor, Alfredo Prieto, Blanco Garcia. The list goes on and on. No

This case is way,way different! Kempton is not a criminal. Those people are! Kempton is a trustworthy young man who never took drugs never hurt anyone with malice. This needs to be done with and focus on the real criminals in our great county. Retrying this case will be a victory and a distraction to the real criminals.

Stan M Wrote:
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> Ray Morrogh has done an Outstanding job
> representing us Fairfax county residents for
> Decades! As an Assistant to Horan and as the
> Commenwealth Attorney. Many,many scumbags have
> committed horrendous crimes in our great county.
> Malvo,Mark Lawlor, Alfredo Prieto, Blanco Garcia.
> The list goes on and on. No
>
> This case is way,way different! Kempton is not a
> criminal. Those people are! Kempton is a
> trustworthy young man who never took drugs never
> hurt anyone with malice. This needs to be done
> with and focus on the real criminals in our great
> county. Retrying this case will be a victory and a
> distraction to the real criminals.

Excellent post! We taxpayers want public safety! Drugs, MS 13, rapists, murderers, violent scumbags, bank robbers and pedophiles etc. Kempton was left for dead by Officer Stewart and his so called Manager Zane Stivers. Left with no choice. Please Fairfax County, let's focus on the scumbags who are the real criminals and put them to death or the proper level 5 or 6 prison. Thanks

I really can't believe that FCPA authorities think that leaving a 19 year old kid to control an adult party is a good idea.

I wasn't allowed to serve drinks/be the person in authority when I was waitressing until I was old enough to legally purchase said drinks.

Stan M Wrote:
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> Ray Morrogh has done an Outstanding job
> representing us Fairfax county residents for
> Decades! As an Assistant to Horan and as the
> Commenwealth Attorney. Many,many scumbags have
> committed horrendous crimes in our great county.
> Malvo,Mark Lawlor, Alfredo Prieto, Blanco Garcia.
> The list goes on and on. No
>
> This case is way,way different! Kempton is not a
> criminal. Those people are! Kempton is a
> trustworthy young man who never took drugs never
> hurt anyone with malice. This needs to be done
> with and focus on the real criminals in our great
> county. Retrying this case will be a victory and a
> distraction to the real criminals.

Ray is one of the best! His success rate conficting and putting these scumbags away is second to none. The last case of the Vietnamese lady who maybe killed her husband was an aquittal but not Ray's fault. Weird case. She probably did it for or had someone do it but the jury said she is not guilty. Oh well. She might have trouble getting a new boyfriend. Volatile marriage. Domestic. Not a defeat in my eyes. All other high profile cases involving horrendous crimes, Ray has done a remarkable job. Thank you Ray.

We as taxpayers need to focus on the real dangers our county faces. That scumbag Torres who killed the teenage Muslim girl. Terrible crime! The Vietnamese bank in McLean. Jay Fasick murdered Kieron Hart in Springfield. Kempton is not guilty. Let's move on.

blanche Wrote:
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> I really can't believe that FCPA authorities think
> that leaving a 19 year old kid to control an adult
> party is a good idea.
>
> I wasn't allowed to serve drinks/be the person in
> authority when I was waitressing until I was old
> enough to legally purchase said drinks.

Park Manager, Zane Stivers, ask him! He booked the reception. We need to hear from this man about staffing and why his Goddamn lazy ass was not there that fucked up night. Call the proper authorities and find out. Zane Stivers let a 19 year old be around alcohol. Crime committed. Not staffing enough workers, cheap piece of shit. Trying to make himself look good while screwing others. Sounds like another typical greed monger.

If it was a redneck attacking a black kid. The comments here would be the exact opposite, "lock that nigger up!" "murdering nigger" "who carries around a knife? Niggers thats who!"

just imagine Wrote:
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> If it was a redneck attacking a black kid. The
> comments here would be the exact opposite, "lock
> that nigger up!" "murdering nigger" "who carries
> around a knife? Niggers thats who!"

You can't see past race can u.
Thank God u weren't on the jury.

The couple that were married lied in a big way to the local media.

Listen to this mush mouthed knucklehead Clinton Sutherland.

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/groom-speaks-out-about-chef-killed-at-va-park/291408124


He lies through his fucking teeth. He should have been subpoenaed as a witness, just so the defense attorney could put on display what a trashy group of assholes this was.

He probably married a 325 lb white girl and they are probably already divorced.

Fucking loser.

And any group of people who would lie so flagrantly like this probably were trying to steal at least a few chairs.

Fucking dumbass

Where's Mr D.? Wrote:
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>
Fucking dumbass

Dumb troll lying his ass off for some unknown reason. He actually said the reception called the police. Lie! Once the police all left I feel they knew. Kempton didn't know they left. When the police left the violence went to another level and this is when Tyonne Johns took the violence out on Kempton. I love Law enforcement and the job they do. However in this case they got an F grade. Indifference by Officer Stewart to start with. Maybe because he is Scottish and naive of blacks and whites can possibly not interact in harmony at times. I love blacks,whites, Hispanics, and all God's people.

Lock him up

Mr D = Troll loser Wrote:
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> Where's Mr D.? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> Fucking dumbass
>
> Dumb troll lying his ass off for some unknown
> reason.

No, not for some unknown reason.

Mr D's motivation for lying and pretending to have been a guest at the reception is as clear as an unmuddied lake.

Go look up the "bride" Camellia Southerland on Facebook. Typical fat ass white girl, baby out of wedlock, marries the black guy. Trying to have a cheap ass trash wedding with the felon caterer and a public facility where everyone fucking knows the music gets turned off at 9. Getting mouthy in her Davids Bridal $99 special, and look what happens.

And Kempton Bonds is not fucking white.

221982 Wrote:
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> Go look up the "bride" Camellia Southerland on
> Facebook. Typical fat ass white girl, baby out of
> wedlock, marries the black guy. Trying to have a
> cheap ass trash wedding with the felon caterer and
> a public facility where everyone fucking knows the
> music gets turned off at 9. Getting mouthy in her
> Davids Bridal $99 special, and look what happens.
>
>
> And Kempton Bonds is not fucking white.

Looks Caucasian. What is he then?

obvious motivation is obvious Wrote:
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> Mr D = Troll loser Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where's Mr D.? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > Fucking dumbass
> >
> > Dumb troll lying his ass off for some unknown
> > reason.
>
> No, not for some unknown reason.
>
> Mr D's motivation for lying and pretending to have
> been a guest at the reception is as clear as an
> unmuddied lake.

The Commonwealth's attorney should go after these "witnesses" for perjury. The guy certainly committed perjury...

@Not white? I think Bonds is part Indian or has at least one mixed race parent and one white. He looks like a Louisiana Creole, but I think he is just mixed.

@metalhead I don't think any of those lying witnesses testified in court. I think all their ridiculous statements were to the press. If they told these lies to a grand jury, they should be prosecuted.

Not white? Wrote:
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> 221982 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Go look up the "bride" Camellia Southerland on
> > Facebook. Typical fat ass white girl, baby out
> of
> > wedlock, marries the black guy. Trying to have
> a
> > cheap ass trash wedding with the felon caterer
> and
> > a public facility where everyone fucking knows
> the
> > music gets turned off at 9. Getting mouthy in
> her
> > Davids Bridal $99 special, and look what
> happens.
> >
> >
> > And Kempton Bonds is not fucking white.
>

> Looks Caucasian. What is he then?

1/4 white I think was in the opening statement. Mix of Hispanic and Native American I think. Black grandparent. Def looks mixed, not whitey white.

Obama was 1/2 white whereas Kempton is only 1/4 white.

Kempton with father,both look a little mixed. Nothing wrong with that. This incident was about ghetto behavior, not race.

Part native American and white. Maybe some African blood from long ago with the slavery interaction among races in the 1700-1800s

No more catering fried catfish greens and shoo fly pie! The only ones she feeding now are maggots not repulsed by cocoa butter and gallons of jergens lotion or st Ives lotion.

Poor kid getting mobb attacked by savages at an event.

MR D Wrote:
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> Sorry i've been so critical of Kempton.I've been
> treating him like a man and wondered whay a man
> would have to kill a unarmed girl because he
> feared for his life.
>
> After some research i found he was actually a
> woman trapped in a mans body. No girlfriends ever
> In High School and all his friends are known as
> gays around Clifton.
>
> Nothing wrong with this it just explains maybe why
> he was so scared.
>
> It's very unusual for a man to stab a girl in a
> fight should have picked up on it earlier.
>
> Maybe Kemptons queer friend can join him and they
> can continue their love affair behind bars. His
> facination and fixation with knives and shanks
> should keep him well protected in Richmond or
> whereever he goes.
>
> Are you the man or woman in the relationship
> Friend?

Mouthy Nigress that is a two fer by being a dyke too? At an inter racial wedding with a guy that looks like Dexter Manley smoked a $10 rock and raped a gorilla at the national zoo???

Wedding shoulda never started! Get married in suitland or anacostia! Park service is now making a requirement of showing two photo ID s to reserve a wedding venue.....knowing damn well the NIGGGGS don't have a second VALID ID....no "rimless head coverings" aka do rags either

This is why nigggs are despised in virginia

Perry Mason Neck Wrote:
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> @Not white? I think Bonds is part Indian or has at
> least one mixed race parent and one white. He
> looks like a Louisiana Creole, but I think he is
> just mixed.
>
> @metalhead I don't think any of those lying
> witnesses testified in court. I think all their
> ridiculous statements were to the press. If they
> told these lies to a grand jury, they should be
> prosecuted.

Fair enough.
This is where the police did a very very half@$$ job on the investigation while on scene. You would think anyone with an ounce of Common Sense would realize that these people with the wedding party were nothing but lying Savages. I just wonder if there is still an element within the Fairfax County Police Department that doesn't understand how these "urban criminals" think, act, and believe; their own admitted racial annymous towards the cops was revealed when they stated the "cops look like Kempton, and Trump bumper stickers" somehow came up. You can also hear her say something along the lines of "you probably from here"; that is clearly a hostile comment towards Kempton who is from Fairfax and isn't "black"...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2017 05:27AM by metalhead.

Question,
Does this park typically get an unruly Maryland crowd like this? Or was this incident just a one-off?

Technically the park is in Chantilly so I am surprised the county police didn't do more when they initially came out. I was thinking "Huntley meadows park" near all those car dealerships off route 1 in Alexandria at first.....

Anything within 4 miles of Wilson bridge gets ruined by nigggz:
Cameron run water park,
Teds Montana restaurant
Kingstowne shopping center
Krispy Kreme

Just a criminal nigggz element from that pg county!

They ruined their facilities in their area so they come here and bring their garbage ways.

Potomac yards movie theater used to be a treat, go there on a Friday or Saturday night and it's like being in Haiti after an earthquake.

I go offline driving for uber they the Potomac yards area....just ghettttto!

Whites and other non nigazzzz cannot venture out at night.

Don't forget it was a niggazz that killed that boy in Del Ray.

Stay out of my neighborhood!

This wasn't a Maryland crowd. The people who felt entitled to do whatever they wanted, not follow the rules, and who were threatening Kempton all night are from Richmond, which is not any better. The bride apparently went to high school with Johns (in Hopewell just outside of Richmond). The Southerlands now live in Centreville and brought their riff raff friends and family here. Kempton had never experienced people behaving this way towards him before. He had 30+ other events under his belt and not once was there a complaint against him.

Liar of the Year Award should go to the the groom, Clinton Southerland.

As someone who was an eyewitness, he heard the threats that Johns made against Bonds and he also was close by when she attacked him. If he was a friend of Johns, he would have pulled her off and maybe have saved her stupid life. He didn't. He didn't even do anything when he thought Bonds hit her, he just responded "You hit a girl?"

Again, look at the cell phone video of what actually happened. Listen to the mood and tone of Johns and the guests.

Then listen to the party goers on the other video. Clinton Southerland claims Johns was polite and was simply attacked out of the blue. Not the case. The other partygoers are mad at not only Bonds, but the cops, the doctor who tried to save Johns life. Unbelievable. And all the lies would not be complete without blaming racism, homophobia and Donald Trump.

These are sick people.


VIDEO #1 The Tragic Death of Tyonne Johns (What partygoers claimed happened)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqDEEwkjWiw

VIDEO #2 Kempton Bonds cell phone video (What really happened)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOg184SPk80

This is an even worse video of the groom lying his ass off.

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/groom-speaks-out-about-chef-killed-at-va-park/291408124

"It wasn't bout dat at all!"


"This is a racist hate crime!"

Liar of the Year Award Wrote:
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> Liar of the Year Award should go to the the groom,
> Clinton Southerland.
>
> As someone who was an eyewitness, he heard the
> threats that Johns made against Bonds and he also
> was close by when she attacked him. If he was a
> friend of Johns, he would have pulled her off and
> maybe have saved her stupid life. He didn't. He
> didn't even do anything when he thought Bonds hit
> her, he just responded "You hit a girl?"
>
> Again, look at the cell phone video of what
> actually happened. Listen to the mood and tone of
> Johns and the guests.
>
> Then listen to the party goers on the other video.
> Clinton Southerland claims Johns was polite and
> was simply attacked out of the blue. Not the case.
> The other partygoers are mad at not only Bonds,
> but the cops, the doctor who tried to save Johns
> life. Unbelievable. And all the lies would not be
> complete without blaming racism, homophobia and
> Donald Trump.
>
> These are sick people.
>
>
> VIDEO #1 The Tragic Death of Tyonne Johns (What
> partygoers claimed happened)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqDEEwkjWiw
>
> VIDEO #2 Kempton Bonds cell phone video (What
> really happened)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOg184SPk80

Good job on posting those links.
How there were any jurors who didn't see this as self defense is beyond comprehension...

Because the jurors didn't have all the facts like we do. Only what the judge allowed. Who, by the way, is very inexperienced and it showed during the trial. The jurors have not seen the youtube video. It was briefly mentioned, just the part about Trump bumper stickers. And, her criminal record was not allowed. The judge didn't even allow a transcript of the cell phone video. Injustices all around during this trial,

I heard the jurors did not see the video until the closing arguments. Crazy.

Stan M Wrote:
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> Ray Morrogh has done an Outstanding job
> representing us Fairfax county residents for
> Decades! As an Assistant to Horan and as the
> Commenwealth Attorney. Many,many scumbags have
> committed horrendous crimes in our great county.
> Malvo,Mark Lawlor, Alfredo Prieto, Blanco Garcia.
> The list goes on and on. No
>
> This case is way,way different! Kempton is not a
> criminal. Those people are! Kempton is a
> trustworthy young man who never took drugs never
> hurt anyone with malice. This needs to be done
> with and focus on the real criminals in our great
> county. Retrying this case will be a victory and a
> distraction to the real criminals.

You raise some good points! Left out some other scumbags, Mir Kasi, the CIA killer, Caleb Hughes. Anyway let's not spend no more money on this case of complete innocence, police malpractice, Zane Stivers indifference and lack of judgement and management. Kempton is innocent, bottom line!

That's not true. Greenspun played the cellphone video during his opening statement and it was played several times throughout the week.

Subpoena the witnesses heard on the cell phone video?

Get the bride, the groom and other witnesses to give their account?

Then come back with the other bullshit tribute video and ask them why they said this then and that now?

I think that at least the groom sounds like a lying jackass. It wasn't a statement under oath on the tribute video, so it is not perjury, but it is probably very different from a statement he gave to the on scene officers and I think it would impeach any kind of lie he may have told in the courtroom.

Look, I can still be very sorry this woman died. But I will be fucking goddamned to hell if I would send that boy to prison, or believe Johns trashy friends or ignore the obvious evidence here.

Can the defense do this? Wrote:
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> Subpoena the witnesses heard on the cell phone
> video?
>
> Get the bride, the groom and other witnesses to
> give their account?
>
> Then come back with the other bullshit tribute
> video and ask them why they said this then and
> that now?
>
> I think that at least the groom sounds like a
> lying jackass. It wasn't a statement under oath on
> the tribute video, so it is not perjury, but it is
> probably very different from a statement he gave
> to the on scene officers and I think it would
> impeach any kind of lie he may have told in the
> courtroom.
>
> Look, I can still be very sorry this woman died.
> But I will be fucking goddamned to hell if I would
> send that boy to prison, or believe Johns trashy
> friends or ignore the obvious evidence here.

Yes they can. However, there might not be a need to. I feel this case is done! Ray Morrogh has way more horrible cases to deal with. This is a self defense case.

Kempton and his family have spent way too much money for this event. They could possibly counter sue the Fairfax County Park service for not adequately providing a safe work environment. The police made some horrible decisions that night also.

Local Attorney 9 Wrote:
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> Can the defense do this? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Subpoena the witnesses heard on the cell phone
> > video?
> >
> > Get the bride, the groom and other witnesses to
> > give their account?
> >
> > Then come back with the other bullshit tribute
> > video and ask them why they said this then and
> > that now?
> >
> > I think that at least the groom sounds like a
> > lying jackass. It wasn't a statement under oath
> on
> > the tribute video, so it is not perjury, but it
> is
> > probably very different from a statement he
> gave
> > to the on scene officers and I think it would
> > impeach any kind of lie he may have told in the
> > courtroom.
> >
> > Look, I can still be very sorry this woman
> died.
> > But I will be fucking goddamned to hell if I
> would
> > send that boy to prison, or believe Johns
> trashy
> > friends or ignore the obvious evidence here.
>
> Yes they can. However, there might not be a need
> to. I feel this case is done! Ray Morrogh has way
> more horrible cases to deal with. This is a self
> defense case.
>
> Kempton and his family have spent way too much
> money for this event. They could possibly counter
> sue the Fairfax County Park service for not
> adequately providing a safe work environment. The
> police made some horrible decisions that night
> also.

Can you imagine what his legal fees probably are. Kempton should most definitely Sue the park as well as the police department for this incident. Even if all they get is recovery for their legal fees which I'm sure are absolutely astronomical for this case. And that is the screwed up part about our system. You could go bankrupt trying to clear your good name...

Local Attorney 9 Wrote:

> Kempton and his family have spent way too much
> money for this event.

No doubt they have and that may become a real problem for them. Peter Greenspun surely can command a very large fee, given his reputation. If this goes to trial again they might not be able to afford his sevices. If that's the case they'll have to make do with either an inferior lawyer or a public defender. This factor should give the prosecution some leverage if (when?) they push for a plea bargain, most likely to manslaughter.

The facts of the case don't seem to warrant such action, but this has never been about just the facts. You maight say the facts here are politically inconvenient. This is very awkward in a society where, increasingly, many people are demanding politically correct results. That they will lie to try to achieve them simply doesn't matter. For them, the end justifies the means.

The victim's advocates, who see Kempton Bonds as a homophobic racist, likely will continue to demand "justice." The political winds in our society blow in their favor. Mr Morrogh may bend with them.

I hope he sues the Police and County for a lot of money. I also think there should be a Go Fund Me account for Kempton Bonds. Tell the facts and put it out there. This will not only bring in a lot of money but will convince the public that Kempton is a good person who simply defended himself because no one else would! Go Fund Me for Kempton Bonds

Squaker Wrote:
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> Local Attorney 9 Wrote:
>

> The facts of the case don't seem to warrant such
> action, but this has never been about just the
> facts. You maight say the facts here are
> politically inconvenient. This is very awkward
> in a society where, increasingly, many people are
> demanding politically correct results. That they
> will lie to try to achieve them simply doesn't
> matter. For them, the end justifies the means.
>
> The victim's advocates, who see Kempton Bonds as a
> homophobic racist, likely will continue to demand
> "justice." The political winds in our society
> blow in their favor. Mr Morrogh may bend with
> them.


And this is the scariest part of this case. This is what 8 years of Obama has given us; any situation where the race/sexual orientation of one party is a member of a "protected class", the other party is automatically at fault. Example, white cop kills a black suspect, that cop must be a skinhead, and the black suspect must have just come from church and was "doin' nothin' wrong"
Nevermind any facts, facts only get in the way of people's feelings...

Cases like this are a large part of the reason Trump won. People of good conscious are tired of the race baiting, sensationalist, riot inciting rhetoric.
Trump: blue live matter, law and order, condemns senseless rioting across America, has honorable Sheriff Clarke speak at the RNC.
Hillary: blm, brings "the mothers of the movement" to the DNC; trayvon Martin's mom, Eric Gardner's widow, and a few others... uses coded language "police reform", refuses to condemn rioting.

Hopefully now that Trump is in, fewer cases like this will come up, especially in fairfax...

Al E Wrote:
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> I am still perplexed on why this young man was
> trying to supervise a hostile crowd whom he had
> already called the police on in which the police
> responded and apparently did not do their jobs
> properly.
>
> They were extremely hostile and angry and he was
> there by himself with a 3 inch knife to protect
> himself with. Where were the other workers? On the
> video you can hear some angry lady yelling at him
> "the cops told you to go away". Really? Than why
> did his supervisor let him do the supervising? The
> supervisor needs to come clean and explain why
> they failed to do their job.
>
> Now the stabbing was a horrible climax to a weird
> and bizarre evening in which communication was
> lacking on both Fairfax County and the wedding
> reception people. Did he have to stab her? In my
> opinion yes. He is a small guy who cant fight
> good. He was threatened to be knocked unconcious
> by a large woman. She attacked him and he took his
> weapon out and hit her in the chest once or twice.
> Terrible tragedy.

After watching a couple of days of the trial I left feeling so fucking mad at that first Policeman Stewart for his lack if policing and his lies to Greenspun under oath. Very perplexing.

How did he lie?

@More pissed off Wrote:
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> How did he lie?

He said Kempton never told him that he was assaulted previous to Tyonne Johns. In fact someone aggressively put his arm around Kempton and grabbed him tight. Also Kempton told him that someone picked him up from behind. It was in Officer Stewart's supervisors notes but in court he couldn't remember. Also he was not told to leave reception but claims his supervisor told him to leave. He also seemed like he was against Kempton while testifying. Greenspun exposed his lies and dishonesty. If an Officer stayed there I am 100 percent certain nothing would have happened. The reception people knew all the police left and that is why they had a green light on Kempton.

Courthouse nerd Wrote:
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> @More pissed off Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How did he lie?
>
> He said Kempton never told him that he was
> assaulted previous to Tyonne Johns. In fact
> someone aggressively put his arm around Kempton
> and grabbed him tight. Also Kempton told him that
> someone picked him up from behind. It was in
> Officer Stewart's supervisors notes but in court
> he couldn't remember. Also he was not told to
> leave reception but claims his supervisor told him
> to leave. He also seemed like he was against
> Kempton while testifying. Greenspun exposed his
> lies and dishonesty. If an Officer stayed there I
> am 100 percent certain nothing would have
> happened. The reception people knew all the police
> left and that is why they had a green light on
> Kempton.

And when he was done lying under oath, Greenspun told the Judge to keep Officer Stewart available for possible recall. Why not at least one police car stay? Kempton told Stewart about being assaulted twice and verbally harassed. Car accidents don't need all those cars at once. They needed to believe Kempton who told Stewart that they were putting their hands on Kempton and cursing at him

It seems like there was outright antagonism and manipulation going on.

@More pissed off Wrote:
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> How did he lie?


The lie is this "kid" is innocent
Lock him up before he kills again

@Courthouse nerd

I never heard that Bonds had been assaulted prior to calling the police. If that was what was alleged, I believe it, based on the cell phone video.

Imagine a shitty wedding that needs police to referee. I would like to see criminal background checks on the guests who attended this wedding. I bet that like Tyonne Johns they were a bunch of ex-cons and losers.

@Courthouse nerd Wrote:
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> @Courthouse nerd
>
> I never heard that Bonds had been assaulted prior
> to calling the police. If that was what was
> alleged, I believe it, based on the cell phone
> video.
>
> Imagine a shitty wedding that needs police to
> referee. I would like to see criminal background
> checks on the guests who attended this wedding. I
> bet that like Tyonne Johns they were a bunch of
> ex-cons and losers.
Honestly, I'd be superised if any of the savages at the wedding DID not have some sort of criminal past. They were all waaay too comfortable with making threats and committing assault to have never been arrested...

You know it Wrote:
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> @More pissed off Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How did he lie?
>
>
> The lie is this "kid" is innocent
> Lock him up before he kills again


...momma calling you up from the basement for dindin and a nappy change.
please to go back to trolling something more your speed, like AOL or myspace.

admittedly, you are correct- he is guilty. guilty of exercising his right to life, liberty, and safety of his person and affects.

well lets just wait and see the outcome of all this
RC-http://www.researchchemc.com

If an Officer stayed there I
> am 100 percent certain nothing would have
> happened. The reception people knew all the police
> left and that is why they had a green light on
> Kempton.

Nigs that have 1%black blood epigenetically have been programmed to know when they can chimp out.

There is a reason why certain establishments keep blacks out for this reason.

They need to stay in their own habitat, where low IQs, fatherless children, everyone's a "cuz" drug dealing and violent crime thrive.

This cook was a convicted violent criminal. No amount of greens, hambone stew and watermelon creme brûlée will change that fact.

If lying to po po was punishable by death, niggers wouldn't be around.

Why didn't they get a white caterer closer to the venue that will:
Deliver services as contracted
Show up on time to the venue
Not cause a RIOT scene with an employee of venue
Not prepare food of slaves?

DAJAX

Nigs lower property values Wrote:
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> If an Officer stayed there I
> > am 100 percent certain nothing would have
> > happened. The reception people knew all the
> police
> > left and that is why they had a green light on
> > Kempton.
>
> Nigs that have 1%black blood epigenetically have
> been programmed to know when they can chimp out.
>
> There is a reason why certain establishments keep
> blacks out for this reason.
>
> They need to stay in their own habitat, where low
> IQs, fatherless children, everyone's a "cuz" drug
> dealing and violent crime thrive.
>
> This cook was a convicted violent criminal. No
> amount of greens, hambone stew and watermelon
> creme brûlée will change that fact.
>
> If lying to po po was punishable by death, niggers
> wouldn't be around.

...goes to [ Nigs lower property values] for an outstanding example of decrying the very traits that define you.

one weak, lame troll rising. unless, sadly, you are a factual (not actual) adult; in which case, there is no hope for humanity.

Kempton is a hero for standing up to self entitled blacks. His sissy supervisor probably voted for democrats, that explains why he didn't know what to do with these savages.

Police shoulda ended the wedding and "Loving vs Virginia" should have been enforced for this interracial travesty you call a marriage.

High percentage that this caterer picked the wrong career from her/his (can't tell from the pic)drug dealing days in SE DC.

Hopefully home prices will keep rising to push blacks back into where they came-good hope road/suitland/anything with a MLK Blvd or Malcolm X high school.

Case done with? I hope so. Anybody know if it is over or a retrial?

Most likely will be done with. Most people feel that Ray Morrogh will not retry this case.

not done.
Prosecutor called a do over at the mistrial.

why are we paying taxes again?

open dockets Wrote:
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> not done.
> Prosecutor called a do over at the mistrial.
>
> why are we paying taxes again?


Young prosecutor named Shapiro. Has to say he wants new trial. But ultimately it is Ray Morrogh who will decide to proceed or not. Based on the trial I think it is a no win for the prosecutor. Self defense in a life or death panic. Plus the way this young man was mistreated by Fairfax Park authority and the police. Case dismissal and full innocence and let's move on everyone.

He will kill again if not caged like the animal he is

Normally, I get an unfortunate kick out of some of antics of FFXU's resident trolls. But this is not one of them.
If he goes to jail, troll away.
If he goes free, ditto.

But while it's all in play, your um, musings, could possibly affect outcome and that would be tradgic.

Stui Wrote:
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> open dockets Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > not done.
> > Prosecutor called a do over at the mistrial.
> >
> > why are we paying taxes again?
>
>
> Young prosecutor named Shapiro. Has to say he
> wants new trial. But ultimately it is Ray Morrogh
> who will decide to proceed or not. Based on the
> trial I think it is a no win for the prosecutor.
> Self defense in a life or death panic. Plus the
> way this young man was mistreated by Fairfax Park
> authority and the police. Case dismissal and full
> innocence and let's move on everyone.

Let us pray and hope you are correct.

Look...I'm not a liberal by any means, but you can't tell me you support Bonds unless you're a racist. The dude is a freak and he was a dick to the wedding party. If it were my wedding, I'd want to kick his ass too (and I'm white). The guy is a dick and deserved to have his ass beat.

Now for his defense...he felt so threatened by a CHICK that he had to stab her? What a bitch! I'm sorry...all he had to do was punch her in the face and it's over. Oh but wait...he felt threatened by the black crowd! Yeah right! So threatened that even after he stabbed the chick, no one approached him at all until the cops came.

Fact is...the dude has no interpersonal skills (like most of the douches here on this website) and was a dick to the wedding party and killed a chick. He's a bitch and deserves to go to jail for life.

yourmom Wrote:
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> Look...I'm not a liberal by any means, but you
> can't tell me you support Bonds unless you're a
> racist. The dude is a freak and he was a dick to
> the wedding party. If it were my wedding, I'd
> want to kick his ass too (and I'm white). The guy
> is a dick and deserved to have his ass beat.
>
> Now for his defense...he felt so threatened by a
> CHICK that he had to stab her? What a bitch! I'm
> sorry...all he had to do was punch her in the face
> and it's over. Oh but wait...he felt threatened
> by the black crowd! Yeah right! So threatened
> that even after he stabbed the chick, no one
> approached him at all until the cops came.
>
> Fact is...the dude has no interpersonal skills
> (like most of the douches here on this website)
> and was a dick to the wedding party and killed a
> chick. He's a bitch and deserves to go to jail
> for life.

I totally disagree with everything you said. Your opinion on this differs than mine. He did many other events. No problems. This event was the only problem. Watch the video clip that Mr Bonds took. She says she is going to knock him out and then puts her hands on his neck. Inter personal skills? He is doing his job not socializing.

yourmom Wrote:
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> Look...I'm not a liberal by any means, but you
> can't tell me you support Bonds unless you're a
> racist. The dude is a freak and he was a dick to
> the wedding party. If it were my wedding, I'd
> want to kick his ass too (and I'm white). The guy
> is a dick and deserved to have his ass beat.
>
> Now for his defense...he felt so threatened by a
> CHICK that he had to stab her? What a bitch! I'm
> sorry...all he had to do was punch her in the face
> and it's over. Oh but wait...he felt threatened
> by the black crowd! Yeah right! So threatened
> that even after he stabbed the chick, no one
> approached him at all until the cops came.
>
> Fact is...the dude has no interpersonal skills
> (like most of the douches here on this website)
> and was a dick to the wedding party and killed a
> chick. He's a bitch and deserves to go to jail
> for life.

Did you listen to the tape? I didn't think so. The only out-of-control people I heard where the people threatening him. Think about it - he did over 30 events with no complaints and incidents. Then we have this event - the only evidence we have is the audio.

Also, that was one tough "chick" - she was big and had served hard time. She was not pushover.

He should get compensated by the estate of that criminal chef who attacked him.

They should dig up her body and let Bonds kick her corpse for 60 seconds.

6uxxw Wrote:
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> yourmom Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Look...I'm not a liberal by any means, but you
> > can't tell me you support Bonds unless you're a
> > racist. The dude is a freak and he was a dick
> to
> > the wedding party. If it were my wedding, I'd
> > want to kick his ass too (and I'm white). The
> guy
> > is a dick and deserved to have his ass beat.
> >
> > Now for his defense...he felt so threatened by
> a
> > CHICK that he had to stab her? What a bitch!
> I'm
> > sorry...all he had to do was punch her in the
> face
> > and it's over. Oh but wait...he felt
> threatened
> > by the black crowd! Yeah right! So threatened
> > that even after he stabbed the chick, no one
> > approached him at all until the cops came.
> >
> > Fact is...the dude has no interpersonal skills
> > (like most of the douches here on this website)
> > and was a dick to the wedding party and killed
> a
> > chick. He's a bitch and deserves to go to jail
> > for life.
>
> Did you listen to the tape? I didn't think so.
> The only out-of-control people I heard where the
> people threatening him. Think about it - he did
> over 30 events with no complaints and incidents.
> Then we have this event - the only evidence we
> have is the audio.
>
> Also, that was one tough "chick" - she was big and
> had served hard time. She was not pushover.

...in need of an attention fix. everything it posted were hit buttons and completely unrequired to convey the underlying message.. Um, the pretend underlying message. The real message is the usual BTK posturing of the impotent and immature. It's opin of the event predicated on that most infallible of measures- hubris. That self delusional mental fantasy of absolute surety that they would prevail in any given situation and win every fight. Because, ya know. They've been there. Done that. Got the tee shirt of badassdome. Which, is pretty impressive from the nice safety of your mom's house. By this trolls logic, no muscled, heavily trained cop has any excuse to shoot anyone that's armed. Ever.
That whole-

"he was reaching for my gun"
nope.
Did he have your gun? No. Because reaching is not having- just punch em in the face.

"I was afraid".
Nope. Don't be a pussy. Punch em in the face.

"I was in an escalating, and potentially dangerous situation, out numbered and alone.."
Don't care. Punch em in the face. The angry crowd, potential mob, that have just spent the last five minutes leveling threats of physical harm to your person? Don't worry about them. So, go on- get into a wrestling match with a larger person, next to a crowd of their supporters. You can trust that no one will take advantage of your now vulnerable position. Yep! You have no need to fear.

Just think- WWYM do? He'd punch them in the face, and probably do that cool move he saw on WWE last week or, or, that Kimora thing from UFC. Yeah baby! Up, up, left, down, down, left, right, down!! Real world, shit is real, experienced street fighter achievement - unlocked.

also. What did or didn't happen "after" he stabbed her has nothing to do with anything leading up to the stabbing. Funny thing about small mobs- no one actually wants to get hurt. Much like you and your "all you have to do is..." everyone's a badass until there's real chance of getting hurt. I don't blame them for not approaching. That's the one smart thing they did the whole night.

Being a dick does not warrant an ass kicking. or do you make habit of beating the shit out of every rude customer service and/or sales person you encounter? Because, like wow! When do you have time to sleep, eat, work..you get the idea p; and wholly crap! you must not drive around here (md va dc) because you'd be kicking ass with nubs for legs.

He didn't stab he because he felt threatened, he stabbed her because she had her hands around his throat. Now, we on here can be sure by your statements that you, having been out matched, and out weighed, by a more experienced fighter, that suddenly had their hands around your throat, were able to just punch them in the face. Obviously. Because you are still here and able to make asinine posts here on FFXU. But not everyone is the awesomeness that is you.

from the he comfy of my beanbag, I can think of all kinds of things he could have "tried". No promises they would work but hey! I'm not the one being choked surrounded by hostiles.

Look- little boy (or girl) go find someone that's a good 60 pounds heavier than you. Have them wrap their meaty hands around your neck, apply pressure to said body part, lots of pressure, while using their sizable weight to bend you over a low wall (or railing if you want to be accurate. I'm pretty sure I read railing) now, when you start to hear a rumble in your ears and your lungs are sending those wonderful "wtf!! Dude!!" panic signals to your blood and oxygen deprived brain- have an honest introspective. You'd do anything to not die. A better example- go through or look up life guard training. There's a whole section dealing with basically surviving the panicked person you are technically trying to save.

you sign a contract for nth hours.
That you either did not read and/or didn't not understand it, no ones fault but your own.
That you did not communicate the tenants of said contract to anyone, specifically those with a real need to know (party planner, decorator, caterer et al) while one can appreciate how this could happen, it's no one fault but yours.

Trying to squeeze that kind of event into 3 hours and, showing up late to boot, is just poor planning. Not that that doesn't happen. I've work in hotels, seen it more often than not. Murphy's law.

But in the end, none of that matters. It's all white noise. The simple point here is- one person, after threatening to commit bodily harm, physically attacked the person at whom they had just level the threat.

your sexist bias of it's a woman is cute and misplaced. Disparity in size, weight, skill, and situation is all that matters. I was at a party and saw a 5'3 "woman", couldn't have been more than 110, break the jaw of a huge guy. He had to be 6'4 and at least 280. yet another time in DC, saw a woman body slam a guy and proceed to kick his teeth in starting with his crotch. Did he deserve it? Dunno. But DC bars on a Friday night. However, they were approximates of the Cher and this park working in relative size.

well, I'm done feeding/patronizing the trolls, KB Cowboys, basement warriors and post-event armchair quarterbacks.

If- the adults at the party had
- actually been, adults.
- read the rules.
- communicated the rules
- took the time to lay better plans
- reviews their plans
- never mind civility
- followed the contractual rules rather than try to browbeat / bully an obvious kid
- not try the shoe horn a 4-6 hour event into effectively 3 hours.
- actually shown up on time. (Well get back to the time thing)
- actually took a moment to relate their concerns with civility, tact, and courtesy rather than going 0-threaten assholes.


This would have been just a case of poor (as perceived) customer service.
the kid never once cursed or was rude to anyone. That you don't like his tone or being told no is your problem. The party had rules, doesn't matter if it's a birthday party, a poker party (that's sounds good actually) or a wedding. It's still a party and the party signed a contract with spelled out th rules. Being a wedding party does not exempt it from the contractual rules. Or, are you telling me that everyone in attendance would come stand up for the kid had he broken/bent the rules for them and as result lost his job. I don't think so.

Time:

Your rental time is inclusive of set up, the event proper, and clean up.

Seeing as a number of you are a little dense and/or keep making excuses of he could have just...

Say you rent a room from 12 (noon) to 4 pm
That gives you literally 4 hours to play with.
But, we suggest - you start clean up at least an hour before your end time.
Because you "have-to-be-out by 4"

Not 5:00, not 4:30, not 4:05. I have other renters.

So, barring whatever time you require to setup, you have effectively three(3) hours to enjoy event in the room. If three(3) hours is not enough time to cover your event (inclusive of prep, cleanup and exit) by all means, please when requesting the room to make sure you request (and pay for) sufficient time in which to hold your event and, accommodate both prep and cleanup.

I see you've chosen evening hours at one of our park locations. okay, please feed the contract as their is a list of prohibitions and rules that must be adhered to; most notably,
- 10PM is the absolute end. Everyone must be out by 10PM.
- nothing affixed to the walls (historical site don't cha know)
- no pins, nails, tape, staples, tacks, blue goo removable gum in etc.
- no or excessive base (fear of structural damage from vibrations)

Your rental as requested
6pm to 10pm
prep time ? Unknown
Clean up time starts 9PM
Effective time for event 3 hours (sans 1hr cleanup)

start time amended to 5pm.
Effective time for the event 3/hours (sans 1hr cleanup and assumed 1hr prep)

Hmm... Let's see. Omg!! We didn't even get our wedding dance!!! (9:30)
well, one the one hand. If you hadn't started off being asshats, (that whole honey vs vinegar thing) you might have schmoozed the kid into letting play through. Buuuut noooo. You all saw a kid and proceeded to be rude and try to bully the kid in the most vile way possible. I'm am very certain that had he been a 6ft 200+ guy (white or otherwise) your attitudes would still ok be shitty but your mouths wouldn't have been so loose.

but again. mouth off vs putting your hands around someone's neck...hmmm. bang!

oh only "bitches" get in an a non forum and call people bitches. asswipe.

baby trolls... euthenasia seems like a good idea.

Was kempton down in C-ville carrying a tourch

The Judges of democrat facist fairfax are jailing people without a trial simply to force them to use a bond company.

(even if you have bank cash to get yourself out, they deny you the right to contact the bank, lawyer, or who else to get your own fucking cash to avoid using any bond company).

They are %100 criminals.

HILLARY FOR PRISON 2016

^^ they jail even when the maximum penalty for a yet to even be supported (likely false) charges don't even carry a prison sentence ... Fairfax County Courthouse are total fucking criminals who have illegals working on their building 24/7. They are what enables sharon bull-o-va gov to steal billions with an iron fist.

Chji Wrote:
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> Was kempton down in C-ville carrying a tourch

1. It's rude to call your mom C-Ville just be cause she been a popular vacation spot.

2. pretty sure that was your mom. She carrie a torch at the drop of $.
But the kind of burn kind she gives can't be cured by an injection. Of course you already know that first hand or is that tongue? Maybe both.


moving on.

Any word on what's going on with this case? Hopefully it is done with. Thanks.

> Fact is...the dude has no interpersonal skills
> (like most of the douches here on this website)
> and was a dick to the wedding party and killed a
> chick. He's a bitch and deserves to go to jail
> for life

You're a bitch bc you don't look at facts:

Niggers ruin everything they attend/shop at/drive, the list goes on n on.

Start driving from north capitol and take H street eastbound.
You see nigger America in its multiple stages.
Go up to a 90lbs NIGRESS sucking down a Newport at one of the bus stops. Call her a name. She will explode bc violence is a way of life, at an early age, for these people.
I see how you behave in public when you are alone. How you animals sing raps on the crowded metro loudly. Now, multiple the NIG count to over 30 people at this wedding! Kempton shoulda had a gun.

So, before you call someone defending themselves a bitch, go to a nig movie theater. Go see a Go go music show at the "Legend" and see if you live to see another day!

Stop coming to my neighborhood theater. Stop coming to my restaurants.

Just like how those shopping carts wheels lock up when you try to take it out of the lot, niggers' cars w DC/MD plates should have that same cutoff when entering Virginia!

You are not wanted!

Tommy Varlas txe Wrote:
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> > Fact is...the dude has no interpersonal skills
> > (like most of the douches here on this website)
> > and was a dick to the wedding party and killed
> a
> > chick. He's a bitch and deserves to go to jail
> > for life
>
> You're a bitch bc you don't look at facts:
>
> Niggers ruin everything they attend/shop at/drive,
> the list goes on n on.
>
> Start driving from north capitol and take H street
> eastbound.
> You see nigger America in its multiple stages.
> Go up to a 90lbs NIGRESS sucking down a Newport at
> one of the bus stops. Call her a name. She will
> explode bc violence is a way of life, at an early
> age, for these people.
> I see how you behave in public when you are alone.
> How you animals sing raps on the crowded metro
> loudly. Now, multiple the NIG count to over 30
> people at this wedding! Kempton shoulda had a
> gun.
>
> So, before you call someone defending themselves a
> bitch, go to a nig movie theater. Go see a Go go
> music show at the "Legend" and see if you live to
> see another day!
>
> Stop coming to my neighborhood theater. Stop
> coming to my restaurants.
>
> Just like how those shopping carts wheels lock up
> when you try to take it out of the lot, niggers'
> cars w DC/MD plates should have that same cutoff
> when entering Virginia!
>
> You are not wanted!

You raise some great points! Can someone please let us know what is going on. Let Kempton be cleared off all charges and apologized and compensated by Fairfax County for failing him in NUMEROUS WAYS!

Still in discovery phase with prosecutor and defense. Should have final decision by October. Looks like case was almost full aquittal but 2 jurors wouldn't go along with the other 10 so it had to be a mistrial. Those 2 jurors wanted Mr Bonds to serve some time.

Attorney Z Wrote:
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> Still in discovery phase with prosecutor and
> defense. Should have final decision by October.
> Looks like case was almost full aquittal but 2
> jurors wouldn't go along with the other 10 so it
> had to be a mistrial. Those 2 jurors wanted Mr
> Bonds to serve some time.

Discovery phase? They already had the trial! Nothing more to discover. My question is why is it taking so long?

Give the kid a break.

Sounds like it's over Wrote:
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> Give the kid a break.

+1000. Self defense. End of story. Tragic loss of life but he had to protect himself from being seriously injured or killed. Police and Park Authority need to learn from this.

Tommy Varlas txe Wrote:
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> > Fact is...the dude has no interpersonal skills
> > (like most of the douches here on this website)
> > and was a dick to the wedding party and killed
> a
> > chick. He's a bitch and deserves to go to jail
> > for life
>
> You're a bitch bc you don't look at facts:
>
> Niggers ruin everything they attend/shop at/drive,
> the list goes on n on.
>
> Start driving from north capitol and take H street
> eastbound.
> You see nigger America in its multiple stages.
> Go up to a 90lbs NIGRESS sucking down a Newport at
> one of the bus stops. Call her a name. She will
> explode bc violence is a way of life, at an early
> age, for these people.
> I see how you behave in public when you are alone.
> How you animals sing raps on the crowded metro
> loudly. Now, multiple the NIG count to over 30
> people at this wedding! Kempton shoulda had a
> gun.
>
> So, before you call someone defending themselves a
> bitch, go to a nig movie theater. Go see a Go go
> music show at the "Legend" and see if you live to
> see another day!
>
> Stop coming to my neighborhood theater. Stop
> coming to my restaurants.
>
> Just like how those shopping carts wheels lock up
> when you try to take it out of the lot, niggers'
> cars w DC/MD plates should have that same cutoff
> when entering Virginia!
>
> You are not wanted!


What neighborhood is that....
Manassas
Go on home and stop showing how scarred you are