she shood rot in hell

Deborah Hernandez is a saint compared to Dan Meier.

Dan Meier vs. Deborah Hernandez... let's have them fight a cage match to the death!

I am definitely interested in opening an investigation into this case. Any files can be forwarded to the investigators at Fairfax County.

My daughter and I had a run-in with Ms. Hernandez at LBSS. This woman is a nightmare. Please get rid of her! She's self-righteous and condescending. She does not have our students' best interests at heart.

I am shocked and amazed every time I hear more information about this woman. I had to ask my administrator. Now, the more she does and says, the more we all understand why he left her. Once I talked with my administrator about the rumors - SHOCKED is the only word for it.

With what she did, trying to get her ex-husband fired at the same time trying to get his girlfriend fired - just another example of how Deborah Hernandez wants to control and manipulate him. Good thing it backfired! The more she did to hold him under her thumb, the more he realized he had to run for his life.

Poor guy. I feel sorry for everything he and his daughters have been through because of his ex wife.

Taming of the shrew didn't work with Deborah Hernandez. Always a nightmare.

We really miss our two math gurus. We need them. We will always love you. Madison will never be the same.

If you want to see the documents, give me till this weekend - I'm posting copies of all the information I have. You'll need to search for the posting on Craig's List. Will be under the "items for sale" section

The truth is coming out! About time! I hope they finally fire one of our incompetent, immoral principals. Let's see. We can all hope.

Is "Starting new page" a nickname for liar? I thought the truth would be posted on craigslist this past weekend? Or did you post what you have which amounts to nothing?


Re: Where did Kilmer Middle School's principal go? Posted by: Starting new page ()
Date: December 15, 2009 12:49PM

If you want to see the documents, give me till this weekend - I'm posting copies of all the information I have. You'll need to search for the posting on Craig's List. Will be under the "items for sale" section

You all should let it go. Ms. Hernandez has been wonderful since she arrived this summer. Always in the halls greeting students and parents with her bright smile.

Maybe the fresh start was good for everyone.

Lake Braddock Wrote:
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> You all should let it go. Ms. Hernandez has been
> wonderful since she arrived this summer. Always
> in the halls greeting students and parents with
> her bright smile.
>
> Maybe the fresh start was good for everyone.


And we love Mr. Hernandez.

They removed my post.


But I agree COMPLETELY that the fresh start was good for everyone. It's obvious from how much happier he looks now when I drop off my daughter for tutoring. I've been through an ugly divorce myself - still struggle every day dealing with my nightmare of an ex-husband

Congratulations, Mr. Hernandez! You're doing a great job! We love you!

Bright smile? That's gotta be her cover for all the slander she still spreads. Next time you see her, tell her to stop discussing her personal lies (not life) with people inside FCPS so that this will all drop.

Unless someone is actually going to prosecute this woman (and without support from Mr. Hernandez & Ms. Gordon this won't be possible)... PLEASE DROP IT!

Craig's list always takes down the postings after 7-14 days... that's their time limit. You have to repost to keep it up their longer

Ms. Hernandez has to serve hall duty, greeting parents and students, just like the rest of us. Every administrator is required to serve hall duty, cafeteria duty, bus duty, after school activties/duty, etc.

We do believe she's making the most of her situation. She's suffering through pay freezes like the rest of us now. It's obvious she'd much rather be back at her old job. Now she has to ask permission before she acts/leaves/goes on vacation just like the rest of the school assistant principals. She no longer has free reign; she lost that privelege when she lost her previous Principal job.

Running around with her boyfriend, kicking her husband out of the house, separating & then complaining because he's dating?! WOW! Did she actually think her threats, ill treatment of her ex, and running around would make him "see the light" and want to be with her.

She got what she deserved on the marriage front. Too bad her removal from principal at Kilmer wasn't her permanent removal from FCPS. That should have been her punishment for hacking, bullying, stalking and terrorizing her ex, his new girlfriend, and the math department at JMHS

The two math teachers were yanked out in the middle of the year. This was really disruptive for kids taking AP Calculus. Getting college credit depended on their AP scores. Why did Mark M. dump the two teachers (or at least acquiesce)? Don't baseball players take math too?

what about the kids? Wrote:
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> The two math teachers were yanked out in the
> middle of the year. This was really disruptive
> for kids taking AP Calculus. Getting college
> credit depended on their AP scores. Why did Mark
> M. dump the two teachers (or at least acquiesce)?
> Don't baseball players take math too?

Nothing that happens at Madison HS is really that interesting. Could you all please give it a rest?

The teachers were transferred because they were dating. Mr. Hernandez & Ms. Gordon were (and still are) dating.

The ex-Mrs. Hernandez was pissed because she thought their separation would be temporary. Kicked him out repeatedly, tried to demand that he live in the basement while they were separated so she could control his life/he would still do all the housework, cooking, cleaning/he would still do all caring for their daughters/the Ex could do whatever she wanted. She even thought he should live in a friend/relative's basement while their divorce was being processed... tried to demand it, as if she had any right to control his life once they separated. Her notion seems to be - the bitchier & meaner she is, the more control she'll have over him & their daughters. She thought that Mr. Hernandez would come crawling back to her if she continually threatened not to let him see his daughters.

Yes, we know that 2 history teachers at JMHS were also dating & got married (their rooms were also side-by-side). We know that there are actually other teachers at JMHS who are currently dating. The thing is, Deborah Hernandez made a SCANDAL when she forced her TSPEC to hack into Ms. Gordon's computer. The TSPEC actually turned it in. Deborah Hernandez then made accusations against Ms. Gordon & Mr. Hernandez in order to cover her own tracks & cut a deal with FCPS so that she wouldn't get fired.

Investigations done. She got herself removed from Kilmer.

The SCANDAL is why Mark Merrell wanted the math teachers gone. They were "making Madison look bad in the community". He could have interceded, and he was part of the decision making group to force both math teachers to be at separate schools because they wouldn't stop seeing each other. The demand was that they weren't even allowed to speak, much less date. He called it "insubordination", and didn't want them on his staff. He can't handle it if someone challenges his status as Grand Pooba of Vienna.

In the end, FCPS lost the best calculus teacher it ever had when Mr. Hernandez took a job in a private school, and JMHS lost the best the brightest, sweetest math teacher when Ms. Gordon left. We miss them both so much.

Mark Merrell got what he deserved, a weakened math department & 2 inferior math teachers as their replacement.

The STUDENTS & math department at JMHS got the shaft. It's a shame. But doing what was best for the students was never Mark Merrell's consideration. He couldn't allow his authority to be challenged.

WAY TO GO DAD!!! Finally! I thought you weren't going to post? LOL

GO HOKIES!

OK. Let's try this again.

Nothing that happens at Madison HS or the Casa Hernandez is really that interesting. Could you all please give it a rest?

The only things that make Madison "look bad in the community" are lousy sports teams or declining SAT scores. The test scores have improved, so the only thing they need to worry about now is boys varsity basketball. No one gets a hoot about the other stuff.

Really? SAT Scores & Sports are the only things JMHS should care about?

Low AP passing scores? Hiring qualified/certified teachers? How about just... making sure my kid is learning?!

Then stay off the site. Nobody is forcing you to read.

Take Two Wrote:
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> OK. Let's try this again.
>
> Nothing that happens at Madison HS or the Casa
> Hernandez is really that interesting. Could you
> all please give it a rest?
>
> The only things that make Madison "look bad in the
> community" are lousy sports teams or declining SAT
> scores. The test scores have improved, so the
> only thing they need to worry about now is boys
> varsity basketball. No one gets a hoot about the
> other stuff.

When we're talking about losing 2 great teachers at the same time, by choice of our administrators, the conversation is vital.

If you don't think this matters, then try reading the following article - you'll see what we lost when we lost Mr. Hernandez & Ms. Gordon

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/201001/good-teaching

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> Really? SAT Scores & Sports are the only things
> JMHS should care about?
>
> Low AP passing scores? Hiring qualified/certified
> teachers? How about just... making sure my kid is
> learning?!

I forgot. Vienna is the hub of the universe and Madison HS stands at its epicenter. Please do carry on with your navel-gazing.

That you want to berate people for posting to this site. Yet you seem quite obsessed with tracking it's progress and posting yourself.

Take Three Wrote:
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> Reply to Take Two Wrote:
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> -----
> > Really? SAT Scores & Sports are the only
> things
> > JMHS should care about?
> >
> > Low AP passing scores? Hiring
> qualified/certified
> > teachers? How about just... making sure my kid
> is
> > learning?!
>
> I forgot. Vienna is the hub of the universe and
> Madison HS stands at its epicenter. Please do
> carry on with your navel-gazing.

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> That you want to berate people for posting to this
> site. Yet you seem quite obsessed with tracking
> it's progress and posting yourself.
>

Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds and Warhawks.

The fact that Mark Merrell finds two teachers having an affair to be "embarrassing to Madison High" is such a load of hypocritical BULL SHIT.
We've all seen him stone cold drunk off his ass in vegas. We've seen & heard of his affairs. What a joke! If anyone is an embarassment to Madison, it's the man who couldn't hack taking a job outside of Vienna. Small fish in a tiny pond at best.

As for Deborah Hernandez, good riddence. I hope she's finally having to work to earn her $115K/year salary and no longer gets to use our tax dollars to abuse her job position, bully and harrass her ex husband's girl friend, send her Admin Assistant to stalk her ex husband's girl friend, and write/enforce ridiculous rules like her "no touch" policy. We're tired of her taking credit for all the talent of our GT Center students and riding the coattails of teachers who can't stand her form of "it's all about me" leadership.

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JMHS lost the best the brightest, sweetest math teacher when Ms. Gordon left

Ahahahaha yeah right. Good riddance to that tramp. Mr. Claybaugh's the best.

What class are YOU taking?!

You obviously NEVER had Ms. Gordon... & if you're thrilled with Mr. Claybaugh's inept sorry ass of a teacher, then you're a fool. We're in the loser's class WITH you, remember!

Mr. Claybaugh is the worst teacher @ JMHS... Good riddance when they fire him / don't renew his incompetent ass.

Of course, all you care about is the easy A you're getting in BC... don't care that you'll NEVER get a 5 on the BC exam.

WE MISS YOU MR. HERNANDEZ! PLEASE COME BACK!!!
WE LOVE YOU MS. GORDON!

You people all ASSUME there was an affair because Deborah Hernandez lost her marbles & tried to get her ex husband fired & Ms. Gordon fired.

He wasn't living with her for a good part of the year... they were apparently separated... he still tutored @ the old house to keep the rumors of their divorce down & b/c the money-grubbing bitch ex-wife wanted the $$$$$

You must be the biggest idiot on this post!
Will Claybaugh (aka Mr. "doesn't show up for class/sleeps in our workroom) didn't replace Ms. Gordon! He replaced Mr. Hernandez you dumbass.

If it weren't for Mr. H tutoring our entire BC class, nobody would learn anything.

Will Claybaugh is fucking joke.

JMHS went from having the Most Highly Qualified Bc Calculus teacher... to having the Most Highly UNQUALIFIED teacher of all time. He's uncertified, untrained, inept, and refuses guidance from everyone in the department.

Thank God Claybaugh isn't under any type of contract with FCPS. If we're lucky, he NEVER WILL BE!

Deborah Hernandez demonstrates her insecurity & lack of social skills constantly. She feels threatened by everyone around her & lashes out publically & privately because of her own mental breakdowns. FCPS should really get a more stable person to serve our children in this important administrative capacity. She shouldn't be around children at all. Please don't put her into a classroom! Move her to a job at Gatehouse if you can't fire her! Please!

Ahaha there's someone who actually think Ms. Gordon was a good teacher? I'm not talking about the loss of Mr. H, I have no doubt he was a good teacher, Ms. Gordon I can personally say was TERRIBLE. Learned a hell of a lot more this year than last.

You obviously didn't HAVE Ms. Gordon last year... she only taught AP Calculus AB. That means you're either with the idior Wallace in AP Stats or with the inept Mr. Claybaugh in BC. Your statement is symbolic of not only a lack of educational knowledge, but also of common sense.

If you ever had her & didn't learn in her class, it's obviously because you didn't care enough to make any effort. I'm excelling at Stanford, and I owe a lot of that to her great teaching, caring & kind support.

All of her students have loved and appreciated her. She goes out of her way to teach, work after school with her students, dedicates herself to those around her.

Maybe when/if you go to college, you'll see the difference. Ms. Gordon is amazing.

she just keeps on hurting her family

I guess, what I don't understand most, is WHY Ms. Gordon is still friends with Mr. Hernandez? After everything his ex-wife did by hacking into her computer, trying to get her fired, trying to get him fired. Why does she even speak to this man?

He lied continuously to cover his tracks with his ex-wife, which only served to further hurt Ms. Gordon. If he had been honest with FCPS, then none of this investigation would have ever gone through. FCPS would have dropped the matter instantly! Because the whole debacle was Deborah Hernandez using FCPS for her personal vendetta against Ms. Gordon. The hacking,the harassment, following Ms. Gordon home, driving by Ms. Gordon's house, driving through the JMHS parking lot, having her secretary to the same ON FCPS TIME & DIME!!!

They would have fired the ex-wife or at least demoted her & transferred her sooner... instead, Mr. Hernandez allowed this whole thing to become a public & costly nuisance for the tax payers. He allowed himself to be tortured, allowed Ms. Gordon to be tortured through all this.

Ms. Gordon is a strong, caring, radiant woman. Yet she remains friends with this man? Why?

Deborah Hernandez is so hung-up on her own opinion of what happened. SHe will always be in denial.

The evidence is all there at FCPS. When the story broke, Ms. Gordon had to tell on him. She had no choice but to give them the evidence to set the record straight.

Besides, we saw Mr. Hernandez constantly hitting on Ms. Gordon. When she moved to our foreign language hallway to get away from him, he prowled outside her room while she was teaching. Lurking & leering. He called her from pay phones, public phones inside public places (gyms, grocery stores), he texted her from several different phones he bought to hide his deeds from his wife. Dropping notes off at her house. She couldn't get away from him. FCPS had her phone records to prove it!

Deborah Hernandez blamed Ms. Gordon because her lying, cheating husband blamed Ms. Gordon. He told FCPS & his ex-wife that Ms. Gordon was pursuing him. HA HA! What a laugh. Deborah Hernandez is a clueless, vindictive bitch who never should have used FCPS for her personal vendetta & Cesar Hernandez is pathetic for not stepping up to accept his blame. If he cared about Ms. Gordon, he would have been honest with everyone.

Ms. Gordon definitely is better off without either of these losers in her life.

I will take a wild guess and say that every post on this page that uses an ampersand ("&") in place of "and" was written by the same person.

It's official - the School Board has decided to rename James Madison High School as Degrassi Senior High.

"I will take a wild guess" that this forum seems obsessed with people's personal lives. It is sad that everyone is so engrossed in this soap opera. Let it die. Leave these people alone.

^^^
Attachments:

when you "assume"...

You used the ampersand ("&") in your fake name. Makes us wonder... are YOU writing all the posts? LOL



strunk & white Wrote:
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> I will take a wild guess and say that every post
> on this page that uses an ampersand ("&") in place
> of "and" was written by the same person.

How ironic... Wrote:
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> You used the ampersand ("&") in your fake name.
> Makes us wonder... are YOU writing all the posts?
> LOL
>
>
>
> strunk & white Wrote:
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> > I will take a wild guess and say that every
> post
> > on this page that uses an ampersand ("&") in
> place
> > of "and" was written by the same person.


Probably.

And for the record (not that anybody actually gives a shit) I only post from my registered name.

How ironic... Wrote:
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> You used the ampersand ("&") in your fake name.
> Makes us wonder... are YOU writing all the posts?
> LOL
>

If you had a clue who Strunk and White were, you would have understood the irony.

You aren't the only person who has an English degree... or even a clue dumbass

You have a degree in English? That explains everything.

If either of you had a degree in English, you'd know that there was NOTHING ironic about "Strunk & White" writing a comment on writing style(s). That would be EXPECTED, the complete opposite of IRONIC.

There is no sport in engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed foe. Good bye.

How do people feel about Mr. Tyson, the new principal at Kilmer? Has he managed to clear the halls of some of the bad karma from when Ms. Hernandez was the principal?

Pam Rawlinson, a special ed teacher at Madison, has been giving press interviews touting what great support Madison gets from the local business community in Vienna. What a joke. Perhaps the local merchants wouldn't support Madison so much if they knew how much improper behavior among teachers has taken place at the school.

Well I never really thought about Ms H leaving for hacking and stuff, but it makes reasonable sense, Mr Tyson on the otherhand, is an excellent teacher. He talks to the students way more then Ms H. And he likes to joke with the students rather then just ignore you and walk away...

John Rawls Wrote:
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> Pam Rawlinson, a special ed teacher at Madison,
> has been giving press interviews touting what
> great support Madison gets from the local business
> community in Vienna. What a joke. Perhaps the
> local merchants wouldn't support Madison so much
> if they knew how much improper behavior among
> teachers has taken place at the school.


Eight Madison seniors are going to Ivy League universities next year. I hope the teachers keep on doing whatever they are doing.

I had Mr. Hernandez as a teacher. People did witness him cheating on another teacher as far back as the end of 2008. Granted cheating is immoral, but Madison should have realized that Mr. Hernandez was their best teacher BY FAR. Most people who took his class thought the AP BC Calculus exam was a joke. Not getting a 5 placed one in a very small minority.

Anyway back to the rumours. The computer scenario seems highly plausible. In the middle of class (right b4 Mrs Hernandez was fired) both Mr. Hernandez and the other woman's computers were confiscated. And, I do remember Mr. Hernandez having difficulty logging on to his computer. Memory tells me that he was entering in an old password.

kTHx bai!

Robert Nozick Wrote:
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> Eight Madison seniors are going to Ivy League
> universities next year. I hope the teachers keep
> on doing whatever they are doing.

This is a very typical attitude in the Madison community. Turn a blind eye to misbehavior by teachers and students, particularly the athletes. As long as the sports teams win and a few kids get accepted to Princeton and Cornell, it's all roses.

Former Vienna resident--Thank you for your post. It is rare for someone in this area to say that. It may even be illegal in Vienna.

The Ivy league? Are you serious? Some of us hold our children to higher standards.

Here is where she is;


http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/549585.html

She is re-married and the Associate Principal at Lake Braddock Secondary. FCPS is amazing.

So if you google Cesar Hernandez and teacher you find that Mr. Hernandez has a track record. If you believe what you read there is his side, her side and the truth. It is speculation as to whether is affair with Westfield HS math teacher ms. Gordon contributed to the demise of his marriage. But he allegedly cheated on his girlfriend with another woman and said woman let the cuckoo out of the clock.

Kind of begs a bigger question. As a teacher he has a responsibility to set a good example. So mr. Hernandez is teaching math at an all girls school. He has two daughters. Yet treats women with no respect. Kind of sad. He is probably a great teacher but what kind of example is he setting at the Madeira school?

https://wendyleeg.wordpress.com/2013/10/11/an-epilogue-of-cesar-hernandez-proportions/

https://wendyleeg.wordpress.com/

pretty sad for everyone involved. The girlfriend got hurt. The blog woman got hurt.

GATEHOUSE

I heard he died