Just saw this latest Priorities USA ad suggesting that Mitt Romney, through Bain Capital, killed a woman when the firm she worked for went under and she lost her healthcare benefits and passed away from illness. Bain is a legitimate issue, so long as facts are respected and truth is taken seriously. This ad is not merely over the top. It is sickening. It is despicable. It is unworthy of a sitting president. It is unworthy of a candidate for president. It is unworthy even of the campaign from hell we are witnessing. It embarrasses me to be a Democrat that this is what our party offers to reelect a president after four years in office.

I would propose that the president issue this public statement:

This new ad represents the fecal remains of what emerges from the eastern end of a horse facing west after an unhealthy meal, and should be thrown in the garbage can, where it belongs.

Did the ad say "I'm blah-blah-blah and I approve of this message"?

Awwww...poor kookums...someone make an ad attacking Romney unfairly?

The Imploding and totally Insane Party of Hatred (and No) would NEVER have a hand in such a thing about Obama.

4 more years, II Wrote:
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> Awwww...poor kookums...someone make an ad
> attacking Romney unfairly?
>
> The Imploding and totally Insane Party of Hatred
> (and No) would NEVER have a hand in such a thing
> about Obama.


Yet you can't point to one that is a blatent lie. What does that say about the TRUE party of HATRED. Why are the Dems so full of Hate and Lies? Point to an ad that the GOP has put out against Obama that is as blatently untrue. You can't.

By the way, the OP is a DEMOCRAT, not a Republican. DEMOCRATS are calling this ad reprehensible and calling for the President to speak out against it. DEMOCRATS are calling this slimy.

I guess that makes you slimy, according to Democrats.

Brent Budowsky Wrote:
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> Just saw this latest Priorities USA ad suggesting
> that Mitt Romney, through Bain Capital, killed a
> woman when the firm she worked for went under and
> she lost her healthcare benefits and passed away
> from illness. Bain is a legitimate issue, so long
> as facts are respected and truth is taken
> seriously. This ad is not merely over the top. It
> is sickening. It is despicable. It is unworthy of
> a sitting president. It is unworthy of a candidate
> for president. It is unworthy even of the campaign
> from hell we are witnessing. It embarrasses me to
> be a Democrat that this is what our party offers
> to reelect a president after four years in office.
>
>
> I would propose that the president issue this
> public statement:
>
> This new ad represents the fecal remains of what
> emerges from the eastern end of a horse facing
> west after an unhealthy meal, and should be thrown
> in the garbage can, where it belongs.

Fellow Dem-

You need to get a couple facts straight. The people who put the ad out, Priorities USA, is a super PAC not affiliated with the President. Super PACs can and do put out ads saying whatever they want. The GOP has put out a number of misleading or false ads against Obama. This ad WAS NOT PUT OUT BY THE OBAMA RE-ELECTION CAMPAIGN.

Next, for the GOP to play "we're so affended, what a terrible ad" is pure hypocrosy. As mentioned they've (GOP super PACS) put out a slew of their own misleading ads.

Lastly, imho the ad doesn't say Romney is directly reponsible for this ladies death. The husbands point is that Romney doesn't have a clue on how his business practices have hurt people in the short term and long term. Thats not the same as saying Romney killed his wife.

res Wrote:
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> Brent Budowsky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just saw this latest Priorities USA ad
> suggesting
> > that Mitt Romney, through Bain Capital, killed
> a
> > woman when the firm she worked for went under
> and
> > she lost her healthcare benefits and passed
> away
> > from illness. Bain is a legitimate issue, so
> long
> > as facts are respected and truth is taken
> > seriously. This ad is not merely over the top.
> It
> > is sickening. It is despicable. It is unworthy
> of
> > a sitting president. It is unworthy of a
> candidate
> > for president. It is unworthy even of the
> campaign
> > from hell we are witnessing. It embarrasses me
> to
> > be a Democrat that this is what our party
> offers
> > to reelect a president after four years in
> office.
> >
> >
> > I would propose that the president issue this
> > public statement:
> >
> > This new ad represents the fecal remains of
> what
> > emerges from the eastern end of a horse facing
> > west after an unhealthy meal, and should be
> thrown
> > in the garbage can, where it belongs.
>
> Fellow Dem-
>
> You need to get a couple facts straight. The
> people who put the ad out, Priorities USA, is a
> super PAC not affiliated with the President. Super
> PACs can and do put out ads saying whatever they
> want. The GOP has put out a number of misleading
> or false ads against Obama. This ad WAS NOT PUT
> OUT BY THE OBAMA RE-ELECTION CAMPAIGN.

At what point during that statement did I indicate that the Obama campaign put this advertisement out? In fact, if you had been paying attention, in the very first sentence it is pointed out that Priorities USA put that ad out.

> Next, for the GOP to play "we're so affended, what
> a terrible ad" is pure hypocrosy. As mentioned
> they've (GOP super PACS) put out a slew of their
> own misleading ads.

It doesn't matter that the GOP is offended. It matters that many prominent Democrats are offended.

> Lastly, imho the ad doesn't say Romney is directly
> reponsible for this ladies death. The husbands
> point is that Romney doesn't have a clue on how
> his business practices have hurt people in the
> short term and long term. Thats not the same as
> saying Romney killed his wife.

That is a good talking point, but you know it is inaccurate.

Brent Budowsky Wrote:

> At what point during that statement did I indicate
> that the Obama campaign put this advertisement
> out? In fact, if you had been paying attention,
> in the very first sentence it is pointed out that
> Priorities USA put that ad out.

Sounded like you were when you said this ad was unworthy of the President and party.


> It doesn't matter that the GOP is offended. It
> matters that many prominent Democrats are
> offended.

Fair enough, but understand that the GOP isn't going to play with their gloves on. This is turning into a dirty fight and I'll be damned if I'm going to call for the Dem party to be civil and nice while being sucker punched.

> > Lastly, imho the ad doesn't say Romney is
> directly
> > reponsible for this ladies death. The husbands
> > point is that Romney doesn't have a clue on how
> > his business practices have hurt people in the
> > short term and long term. Thats not the same as
> > saying Romney killed his wife.
>
> That is a good talking point, but you know it is
> inaccurate.

No I don't. Watch the ad again and the what the man says. Is the ad heavy and a little extreme? Sure. But the point is valid...Romney made his fortune f**ng over a lot of people. You don't slice and dice companies without people getting hurt.

res Wrote:
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> Sounded like you were when you said this ad was
> unworthy of the President and party.

It is unworthy of a President and a party. Just because his campaign didn't make it doesn't mean he doesn't benefit from it and would he want to benefit from a blatant lie?

> Fair enough, but understand that the GOP isn't
> going to play with their gloves on. This is
> turning into a dirty fight and I'll be damned if
> I'm going to call for the Dem party to be civil
> and nice while being sucker punched.

Not a single GOP ad sinks this low which is why numerous prominent Democrats have condemned it. I find it disgusting that anyone who supports the President would endorse such a lie.

> > That is a good talking point, but you know it
> is
> > inaccurate.
>
> No I don't. Watch the ad again and the what the
> man says. Is the ad heavy and a little extreme?
> Sure. But the point is valid...Romney made his
> fortune f**ng over a lot of people. You don't
> slice and dice companies without people getting
> hurt.

You seem to be the only person with that interpretation. The ad is disgusting and should be pulled. If it means that the President condemns it to get it done, so be it.

The guy sounded like a whiney bitch, blame him, blame this, blame that. Even CNN and the WashPo said the ad was full of lies. When you cannot get those two Obama fronts on your side your hash is settled.

The guy is as stupid as most Americans these days who believe once you get a job its yours for life even if the company is bleeding red ink. Get a fucking clue, times change. Either get on the bus or stand there like a retard wondering what happened.

Barack Obama gave both of my sisters AIDS, twice.

Brent Budowsky Wrote:
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> Just saw this latest Priorities USA ad suggesting
> that Mitt Romney, through Bain Capital, killed a
> woman when the firm she worked for went under and
> she lost her healthcare benefits and passed away
> from illness. Bain is a legitimate issue, so long
> as facts are respected and truth is taken
> seriously. This ad is not merely over the top. It
> is sickening. It is despicable. It is unworthy of
> a sitting president. It is unworthy of a candidate
> for president. It is unworthy even of the campaign
> from hell we are witnessing. It embarrasses me to
> be a Democrat that this is what our party offers
> to reelect a president after four years in office.
>
>
> I would propose that the president issue this
> public statement:
>
> This new ad represents the fecal remains of what
> emerges from the eastern end of a horse facing
> west after an unhealthy meal, and should be thrown
> in the garbage can, where it belongs.


Good trolling son, keep it up!!

res Wrote:
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> Fellow Dem-
>
> You need to get a couple facts straight. The
> people who put the ad out, Priorities USA, is a
> super PAC not affiliated with the President. Super
> PACs can and do put out ads saying whatever they
> want. The GOP has put out a number of misleading
> or false ads against Obama. This ad WAS NOT PUT
> OUT BY THE OBAMA RE-ELECTION CAMPAIGN.


"On Tuesday, Priorities USA Action — a Democratic super PAC run by two former Obama White House aides and blessed by the president himself"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/who-had-the-worst-week-in-washington-priorities-usa-and-its-steelworker-ad/2012/08/10/aa03d756-e30d-11e1-a25e-15067bb31849_story.html

You were saying?

Vexxxed Wrote:
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>
> "On Tuesday, Priorities USA Action — a
> Democratic super PAC run by two former Obama White
> House aides and blessed by the president himself"
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/who-had-the
> -worst-week-in-washington-priorities-usa-and-its-s
> teelworker-ad/2012/08/10/aa03d756-e30d-11e1-a25e-1
> 5067bb31849_story.html
>
> You were saying?

You surprise me, sir. Such an obvious political hack waving an opinion piece from that "quaint little newspaper, the Washington " as G. Gordon Liddy used to say. I thought you all routinely referred to it as "Pravda".

I could employ the standard debating technique of the right (which on the playground is typically used by 5 year olds with the refrain "I know you are, but what am I") and bring up Crossroads GPS, Mr. Rove's Super Pac, which was also in the crosshairs today for egregious misrepresentations. But we reason at a much higher level. So let me remind you all of something...

Super Pacs are an creation of the Republicans, who in 2010 won two important cases, "SpeachNow.org" and "United Citizens", before the right leaning Supreme Court. Apparently you believe that, as Mitt so eloquently put it, "corporations are people too", and so should not have their right to political speech curtailed by such pesky concerns as the rush of more corrupting cash in the U.S. election system. Unlimited, unaccountable, secret funding. Yes, that's the type of electioneering we want to have. How far we have fallen from the legal and political sentiment prevalent in the first part of the 20th century, neatly summed up by Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis: "Sunshine is the best antiseptic".

Well, my Republican friends, you wanted this, and now you see what it looks like, on both sides. And I suspect they'll get far worse -- ads with Obama morphed into Mao, and Romney into der Führer. This kind of tripe worked well for you, when you were the only ones using it -- against the campaigns of Kerry and Gore, who didn't sling mud back. But Obama is a "Chicago-style" politician, to take from Sean Hannity. He fights back and stays on the offensive. You haven't had to deal with this since Bill Clinton, and your track record when you've been bullied back ain't so good.

Oh, and to the OP...when Fox Nation pays you to troll community forums, do they give you a script, or do you have to make it up?

I do not either man running.

I want to see a plan in place that will create good jobs in America.

Sort of like what FDR did back in the day.

We need to stop shipping out jobs and we need to guard our borders. Did we forget about 9-11?

I cannot see where we are going. Nobody can. Sorry to say but we are no longer number one.

rush limbo Wrote:
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> Brent Budowsky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just saw this latest Priorities USA ad
> suggesting
> > that Mitt Romney, through Bain Capital, killed
> a
> > woman when the firm she worked for went under
> and
> > she lost her healthcare benefits and passed
> away
> > from illness. Bain is a legitimate issue, so
> long
> > as facts are respected and truth is taken
> > seriously. This ad is not merely over the top.
> It
> > is sickening. It is despicable. It is unworthy
> of
> > a sitting president. It is unworthy of a
> candidate
> > for president. It is unworthy even of the
> campaign
> > from hell we are witnessing. It embarrasses me
> to
> > be a Democrat that this is what our party
> offers
> > to reelect a president after four years in
> office.
> >
> >
> > I would propose that the president issue this
> > public statement:
> >
> > This new ad represents the fecal remains of
> what
> > emerges from the eastern end of a horse facing
> > west after an unhealthy meal, and should be
> thrown
> > in the garbage can, where it belongs.
>
>
> Good trolling son, keep it up!!


Words are from a prominent Democrat. Get educated, son.

res Wrote:

> Next, for the GOP to play "we're so affended, what
> a terrible ad" is pure hypocrosy. As mentioned
> they've (GOP super PACS) put out a slew of their
> own misleading ads.

Bullshit. Name one even remotely as disgraceful as that

> Lastly, imho the ad doesn't say Romney is directly
> reponsible for this ladies death. The husbands
> point is that Romney doesn't have a clue on how
> his business practices have hurt people in the
> short term and long term. Thats not the same as
> saying Romney killed his wife.


No the husband was trying to make the connection that if he had health care his wife would have been alive hence the "she probably didnt tell me cus she knew we couldnt afford it" crap.

What the husband didnt tell you was that his wife did have healthcare for many years after he was fired from her own job. Or that romney was no longer in charge of bain when that plant shut down. Or that that company would have gone under sooner if bain didnt keep it running while it lost money. But I guess he would have rather the whole company went under and everyone at it lost their job so he could be employed a bit longer.

Its terrible he lost his wife, but anyone that would blatantly manipulate the death of their wife with nothing but half truths and lies is not someone that deserves an outpouring of support. Theres plenty of suffering people in the world that would never think to do such a horrific thing

disgusting Wrote:
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>
> No the husband was trying to make the connection
> that if he had health care his wife would have
> been alive hence the "she probably didnt tell me
> cus she knew we couldnt afford it" crap.
>
> What the husband didnt tell you was that his wife
> did have healthcare for many years after he was
> fired from her own job. Or that romney was no
> longer in charge of bain when that plant shut
> down. Or that that company would have gone under
> sooner if bain didnt keep it running while it lost
> money. But I guess he would have rather the whole
> company went under and everyone at it lost their
> job so he could be employed a bit longer.
>
> Its terrible he lost his wife, but anyone that
> would blatantly manipulate the death of their wife
> with nothing but half truths and lies is not
> someone that deserves an outpouring of support.
> Theres plenty of suffering people in the world
> that would never think to do such a horrific thing


You know that he got a nice chunk of cash from the Dems for doing it too. He's been involved in several of these kinds of things.

It would be nice if they'd spend more time on why we should vote for them instead of why we shouldn't vote for the other guy.

Nova_Native Wrote:
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A very wordy diatribe about how everything wrong with the world is the fault of the Republicans.

What he should have written was a response to what I actually posted. A liberal source explaining that Obama had a lot to do with this particular campaign ad.

But it was easier to dismiss the facts and vent his spleen.

Standard behavior for someone in denial.

I heard that nasty Romney closed down the buggy whip plant after everyone started buying cars. Shame on him for recognizing progress and not supporting a dying industry full of people too dumb to see that their company sold products nobody wanted anymore.

You either want the American way or not. Capitalism guarantees NO-ONE a job for life, but offers the chance for wealth for those bold enough to go after it and risk time and capital.

Other systems sometimes guarantee jobs - but generally a miserable life for all. We have become a nation of lazy cows who complain when our cable goes on the fritz for 10 minutes.

We are loathe to work and angry at those who have succeeded - yet very few of us would refuse the offer of wealth should it be offered to us (why is it that the lazy cows are the ones buying most of the lottery tickets - they want the wealth they hate, but they want it without working for it).

If you lose your job, move to where there are jobs, don't sit there and complain that nobody wants buggywhips anymore. (The Dems would probably pass legislation that would create subsidies to prop up the buggy whip industry and then support the building of buggies - that no-one would buy...)

Unemployed - here's a thought - North Dakota - lots of jobs in the oil industry - as well as the housing industry (they can't build houses fast enough for all the people taking all the jobs). don't want to move? Then don't complain you can't find a job.

>
> Bullshit. Name one even remotely as disgraceful
> as that
>

How far back do you want to go? Karl Rove was the genius behind all the Bush mud slinging ads. As Nova Native pointed out now that the mud is coming back the Republicans are crying foul. How does that quote go..."All is fair in love and war". Seems like the GOP only likes it when their slinging the mud.

WOW! Wrote:
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> I heard that nasty Romney closed down the buggy
> whip plant after everyone started buying cars.
> Shame on him for recognizing progress and not
> supporting a dying industry full of people too
> dumb to see that their company sold products
> nobody wanted anymore.
>
> You either want the American way or not.
> Capitalism guarantees NO-ONE a job for life, but
> offers the chance for wealth for those bold enough
> to go after it and risk time and capital.
>
> Other systems sometimes guarantee jobs - but
> generally a miserable life for all. We have
> become a nation of lazy cows who complain when our
> cable goes on the fritz for 10 minutes.
>
> We are loathe to work and angry at those who have
> succeeded - yet very few of us would refuse the
> offer of wealth should it be offered to us (why is
> it that the lazy cows are the ones buying most of
> the lottery tickets - they want the wealth they
> hate, but they want it without working for it).


Ya ya ya.....I think your confusing Romney with many honest, well meaning business owners. Bain made boat loads of money by buying companies, leveraging their assetts, sometimes breaking them up, sending jobs overseas, and selling on the leveraged assetts and investmments. Its the difference between venture and vulture investors.

People tend to loathe individuals who get wealthy by screwing other people while gaming the system. People don't loathe the honest, hard working local business owner who put poured his soul into his business for twenty years. Don't confuse the two.


> If you lose your job, move to where there are
> jobs, don't sit there and complain that nobody
> wants buggywhips anymore. (The Dems would probably
> pass legislation that would create subsidies to
> prop up the buggy whip industry and then support
> the building of buggies - that no-one would
> buy...)
>
> Unemployed - here's a thought - North Dakota -
> lots of jobs in the oil industry - as well as the
> housing industry (they can't build houses fast
> enough for all the people taking all the jobs).
> don't want to move? Then don't complain you can't
> find a job.

Right, because packing up and moving accross the country is a reasonable answer. For someone unemployed spending thousands to move is a crap shoot.

You have to remember it takes two to hold down a mortgage here, and moving means you have to find two new jobs or maintain two households, one of which is in the DC area. Another good reason to change government mortgage programs so 20% down is the minimum requirement.

OP made what is probably my least favorite partisan argument. "I'm a [Political Party] but this [political situation] has made me [negative emotion]." It's so transparent and insulting to intelligence.

1. If you were truly embarrassed to be a Democrat, you wouldn't still be a Democrat. At the very least, you wouldn't admit to other people you're a Democrat (for any reason). Would you tell people, "I'm embarrassed to be a pedophile" to drive home your point in an argument about pedophilia?

2. Nobody's forcing you to be a Democrat. Hell, you don't have to claim affiliation with any political party. Nobody said that voting for a Democrat candidate automatically makes you anti-Republican, and vice versa.

3. Do you really think that anybody's going to hear that argument and say, "Wow, if that guy's a Democrat and he's appalled by our party's behavior, maybe I should reconsider my own views?" Hell no. If anything, they're going to think you're a chump that doesn't have the courage of his convictions.

If you have an argument, make your argument and leave out all the stupid attempts at trickery. Shit like this is the reason the elections are only slightly more intellectually stimulating than Jerry Springer.

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@MrMephisto

I agree with you about the self-claiming of political affiliation. Its like people think that they are a "card-carrying" Republican or Democrat. The parties could probably raise a bit of money printing out little ID cards for particularly motivated idiots.

I personally find it difficult to identify with any one political party. Its unfortunate that we only really have two parties to choose from. I rarely agree with either party 100% of the time, even on one particular issue. Each party now tries to make every debate black and white -- and you have to choose sides.

Being disgusted with politics is terribly easy though. I find myself wincing during just about every political speech when I hear deliberate doublespeak or obfuscation (read: bullshit).

No matter how enthusiastic you are about one party, you need to be thankful that there are two parties in this country. The British refer to the other party as the "loyal opposition" and I think it is a very good phrase. The worst thing that can ever happen to a country is to become a one party state.

Listen carefully, each party makes good and bad arguments. Most of the time both sides are wrong, but occasionally each has a good point.

res Wrote:
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> >
> > Bullshit. Name one even remotely as
> disgraceful
> > as that
> >
>
> How far back do you want to go? Karl Rove was the
> genius behind all the Bush mud slinging ads. As
> Nova Native pointed out now that the mud is coming
> back the Republicans are crying foul. How does
> that quote go..."All is fair in love and war".
> Seems like the GOP only likes it when their
> slinging the mud.

I want you to show me an incident where someone lied about their loved ones death for political gain by the GOP.

Oh thats right didnt happen which is why you didnt list anything and just responded with more bullshit.

Recently, while I was working in the flower beds in the front yard, my neighbors stopped to chat as they returned home from walking their dog. During our friendly conversation, I asked their little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President some day. Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her, "If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?" She replied... "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people." Her parents beamed with pride! "Wow...what a worthy goal!" I said. "But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that!" I told her. "What do you mean?" she replied. So I told her, "You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and trim my hedge, and I'll pay you $50. Then you can go over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out and give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house." She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?" I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party." Her parents aren't speaking to me anymore.

res Wrote:

> Ya ya ya.....I think your confusing Romney with
> many honest, well meaning business owners. Bain
> made boat loads of money by buying companies,
> leveraging their assetts, sometimes breaking them
> up, sending jobs overseas, and selling on the
> leveraged assetts and investmments. Its the
> difference between venture and vulture investors.


Once again you demonstrate that you have no clue and are just spewing bullshit.

I guess Sports Authority, Dominos Pizza, and Staples were just all shipped over seas. Amazing how those people commute from across the Atlantic every day to work

>
> I want you to show me an incident where someone
> lied about their loved ones death for political
> gain by the GOP.
>


Oh I get it now....all the bs GOP PAC ads are fine (not to mention the ads during the Bush campaigns) because this ad is the new low and the GOPs hands are clean?

Take the recent Romney ad (his campaign, not a super PAC) where he completly mis-represents (lies) Obamas welfare reform plan. Saying Obama just wants to send checks to people without working. A complete lie. (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/07/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obamas-plan-abandons-tenet/). So, is one lie better than the other? Does a "lie" where a man embelishes details about his wife rate worse on a scale than a lie about a President who's trying to improve a system that affects millions?

Accept that this will be a dirty election and there are no ground rules. The voters will decide whether an ad has gone to far or not.

res Wrote:
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> WOW! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I heard that nasty Romney closed down the buggy
> > whip plant after everyone started buying cars.
> > Shame on him for recognizing progress and not
> > supporting a dying industry full of people too
> > dumb to see that their company sold products
> > nobody wanted anymore.
> >
> > You either want the American way or not.
> > Capitalism guarantees NO-ONE a job for life,
> but
> > offers the chance for wealth for those bold
> enough
> > to go after it and risk time and capital.
> >
> > Other systems sometimes guarantee jobs - but
> > generally a miserable life for all. We have
> > become a nation of lazy cows who complain when
> our
> > cable goes on the fritz for 10 minutes.
> >
> > We are loathe to work and angry at those who
> have
> > succeeded - yet very few of us would refuse the
> > offer of wealth should it be offered to us (why
> is
> > it that the lazy cows are the ones buying most
> of
> > the lottery tickets - they want the wealth they
> > hate, but they want it without working for it).
>
>
> Ya ya ya.....I think your confusing Romney with
> many honest, well meaning business owners. Bain
> made boat loads of money by buying companies,
> leveraging their assetts, sometimes breaking them
> up, sending jobs overseas, and selling on the
> leveraged assetts and investmments. Its the
> difference between venture and vulture investors.
>
A COMBINATION OF YOUR MISUSE OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND FAILURE TO SHOW EVEN A BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF BUSINESS SHOWS YOU TO BE AN IDIOT. I BET YOU BELIEVE IN ZERO-SUM ECONOMICS - LOOK IT UP AND GET BACK TO ME.
>
> People tend to loathe individuals who get wealthy
> by screwing other people while gaming the system.
> People don't loathe the honest, hard working local
> business owner who put poured his soul into his
> business for twenty years. Don't confuse the two.
>
>
> > If you lose your job, move to where there are
> > jobs, don't sit there and complain that nobody
> > wants buggywhips anymore. (The Dems would
> probably
> > pass legislation that would create subsidies to
> > prop up the buggy whip industry and then
> support
> > the building of buggies - that no-one would
> > buy...)
> >
> > Unemployed - here's a thought - North Dakota -
> > lots of jobs in the oil industry - as well as
> the
> > housing industry (they can't build houses fast
> > enough for all the people taking all the jobs).
>
> > don't want to move? Then don't complain you
> can't
> > find a job.
>
> Right, because packing up and moving accross the
> country is a reasonable answer. For someone
> unemployed spending thousands to move is a crap
> shoot.

res Wrote:
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> Oh I get it now....all the bs GOP PAC ads are fine
> (not to mention the ads during the Bush campaigns)
> because this ad is the new low and the GOPs hands
> are clean?
>
> Take the recent Romney ad (his campaign, not a
> super PAC) where he completly mis-represents
> (lies) Obamas welfare reform plan. Saying Obama
> just wants to send checks to people without
> working. A complete lie.
> (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statement
> s/2012/aug/07/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-
> obamas-plan-abandons-tenet/). So, is one lie
> better than the other? Does a "lie" where a man
> embelishes details about his wife rate worse on a
> scale than a lie about a President who's trying to
> improve a system that affects millions?
>
> Accept that this will be a dirty election and
> there are no ground rules. The voters will decide
> whether an ad has gone to far or not.

Its a half truth like every political ad.

Even if a complete lie not even remotely close to the ad in question.

Try again