http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/12/report-occupy-la-costs-4-7-million-entire-movement-close-to-30-million

•Occupy Asheville - $170,000
•Occupy Atlanta - $652,000
•Occupy Austin - $800,000
•Occupy Bellingham - $51,000
•Occupy Boston - $1,025,000 plus $50,000 to repair park
•Occupy Charlotte - $447,000
•Occupy Chicago - $49,000
•Occupy Cincinnati - $128,000
•Occupy DC - $1,640,000
•Occupy Denver - $782,689
•Occupy DesMoines - $7,800
•Occupy Eugene - $130,000
•Occupy Fresno - $110,000
•Occupy Hartford - $45,000
•Occupy Irvine - $23,000
•Occupy LA - $4,700,000
•Occupy Lansing - $20,000
•Occupy Long Beach - $40,000
•Occupy Minnesota - $400,000
•Occupy Nashville - $4,500
•Occupy New Haven - $145,000
•Occupy New Orleans - $50,000
•Occupy New York - $7,000,000
•Occupy Oakland - $3,000,000
•Occupy OKC -- $85,000
•Occupy Olympia - $252,000
•Occupy Palm Desert - $88,786
•Occupy Philadelphia - $1,000,000
•Occupy Phoenix - $204,162
•Occupy Portland - $1,290,000 + $130,000 to repair damaged parks
•Occupy Providence - $9,000
•Occupy Raleigh - $60, 000
•Occupy Richmond - $33,691
•Occupy Sacramento - $300,000
•Occupy San Diego - $2,400,000
•Occupy San Francisco - $950,000 plus $50,000 to restore park
•Occupy Santa Cruz - $40,000
•Occupy St. Louis - $2,200
•Occupy Seattle - $625,999
•Occupy Tucson - $170,000

Total: $29,110,827

I don't know why the Park service took such a passive approach to this bullshit in DC.

idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam



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1rst amendment aint free bro!

The irony is that 5% of these fucktards were there to protest about the financial predicament of the U.S. while the rest just thought "it was cool" to act out like jr. anarchists by disrespecting authority and hanging out like filthy hippies.

We should have learned something from China: run over a few of them with tanks and its back to business as usuall within days.

Occupy that filthy hippie wannabes.

just cut one F-35 and you can hold 3000 protests.

I'll take canceled Virtual Fence for $1 Billion Alex.

cut the right stuff Wrote:
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> just cut one F-35 and you can hold 3000 protests.


But an F-35 has a point and makes it well. lol

I've always wondered about the logic of allowing radicals like the KKK or nazis to march when they require so many more cops and overtime to protect their stupid asses from the always larger counterprotesters.

Is freedom to peacefully assemble a guarantee of police protection and accomodation to camp in city parks?

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WingNut Wrote:
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> I've always wondered about the logic of allowing
> radicals like the KKK or nazis to march when they
> require so many more cops and overtime to protect
> their stupid asses from the always larger
> counterprotesters.
>
> Is freedom to peacefully assemble a guarantee of
> police protection and accomodation to camp in city
> parks?


With the KKK and Nazis marching, I think it's a trade-off. It's probably cheaper to provide police protection than to incur the cost of chaos and property destruction that would result from the absence thereof.

OWS pushed the logic of that - the First Amendment "trade-off" that we've come to accept as a matter of routine, for purposes of marches and the like - to its limit, indeed to the breaking point.

WingNut Wrote:
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> I've always wondered about the logic of allowing
> radicals like the KKK or nazis to march when they
> require so many more cops and overtime to protect
> their stupid asses from the always larger
> counterprotesters.
>
> Is freedom to peacefully assemble a guarantee of
> police protection and accomodation to camp in city
> parks?


Wasnt there something in our preamble about 'insuring domestic Tranquility'?

WingNut Wrote:
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> I've always wondered about the logic of allowing
> radicals like the KKK or nazis to march when they
> require so many more cops and overtime to protect
> their stupid asses from the always larger
> counterprotesters.
>
> Is freedom to peacefully assemble a guarantee of
> police protection and accomodation to camp in city
> parks?


Supreme Court has killed several forests in discussing this.Conclusion it is the 1rst amendment, it is number 1 for a reason.

#1! Wrote:
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> Supreme Court has killed several forests in
> discussing this.Conclusion it is the 1rst
> amendment, it is number 1 for a reason.

That doesn't answer the question.


> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > Is freedom to peacefully assemble a guarantee of
> > police protection and accomodation to camp in city
> > parks?

Since we don't have a right to police protection from crime (http://www.allsafedefense.com/news/CopsDontProtect.htm), I don't see how there could possibly be a guarantee of police protection in the exercise of first amendment rights.

The issue that USUALLY comes up is whether a city or municipality can use licensing laws and fees to indirectly prohibit the exercise of first amendment rights.

Nazi march in Skokie, city asked for liability bond from marchers, the cost of which would have made the march impossible. Court struck down those laws as an impermissible "prior restraint" on freedom of speech.

Without the right/freedom to protest we would be a totalitarian state,,,

It really is one of the few freedoms left,,that and guns

And quite frankly, the only "punishment" Wall St and the banks received has been the annoyance of the Occupy movement,,,

The US taxpayer handed out billions in "golden parachutes" to the displaced CEOs who destroyed forever the country as we knew it, where's the outrage over that?

They should be glad the protesters are just shouting at them and not following them home with pitchforks and torches to burn their houses down,,,
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> Since we don't have a right to police protection
> from crime
> (http://www.allsafedefense.com/news/CopsDontProtec
> t.htm), I don't see how there could possibly be a
> guarantee of police protection in the exercise of
> first amendment rights.

utilize your 2nd amendment and bust a cap legally in their asses.

This can soon end. Obama recently signed into law where the Secret Service can declare public property off limits if anyone that receives Secret Service protection will be there or in the area.

H.R. 347, the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011

While Obama will use this law to block any protestors lobbying against him at public events it was only three members of Congress who stood up and said no to this infringement of our rights. I have no doubt Republicans will also make use of this to silence Americans with dissent.

The only three who dissented were:

Representative Justin Amash Michigan Republican
Representative Paul Broun Georgia Republican
Representative Keith Ellison Minnesota Democrat

Only three members of Congress with the courage and conviction to vote against this joke of a law.

This crime is in fact a felony punishable by ten years in prison. This law can be applied anywhere the Secret Service decides they want to make off limits to protestors. Republicans and Democrats alike share the shame for such a breach to the First Amendment.

cut the right stuff Wrote:
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> just cut one F-35 and you can hold 3000 protests.


Just cut the F-22 program and save $70 billion.

And to make it an easier sell, keep in mind that they're un-flyable because pilots keep suffocating in them. Panetta just 'soft' grounded them.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/15/11718911-panetta-restricts-f-22-flights-due-to-oxygen-system-complaints?lite

Maybe if we had the Chinese build them for us, they'd work. I'm sure we're not too far from that moment.

Our Navy just bought a bunch of stupid Littoral Combat ships, at a cost of $550 MILLION each and they can't even complete it's trails.

http://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2011-01/wrong-ship-wrong-time

The contractors are getting rich by not building sinking ships and grounded planes and getting to take the contract termination fees.

All the while, our country goes bankrupt and our military has 1970's battle technology.

trogdor! Wrote:
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> cut the right stuff Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > just cut one F-35 and you can hold 3000
> protests.
>
>
> Just cut the F-22 program and save $70 billion.
>
> And to make it an easier sell, keep in mind that
> they're un-flyable because pilots keep suffocating
> in them. Panetta just 'soft' grounded them.
>
> http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/15/11718
> 911-panetta-restricts-f-22-flights-due-to-oxygen-s
> ystem-complaints?lite
>
> Maybe if we had the Chinese build them for us,
> they'd work. I'm sure we're not too far from that
> moment.
>
> Our Navy just bought a bunch of stupid Littoral
> Combat ships, at a cost of $550 MILLION each and
> they can't even complete it's trails.
>
> http://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2011-01/
> wrong-ship-wrong-time
>
> The contractors are getting rich by not building
> sinking ships and grounded planes and getting to
> take the contract termination fees.
>
> All the while, our country goes bankrupt and our
> military has 1970's battle technology.


Good news with two wars ending, and Osama dead. GOP is requesting $58B MORE for DOD. Republican military socialism is alive and thriving.

how much did the bailout of banks, not just in U.S., cost?

how much did the war in Iraq cost?

j.pee morgan Wrote:
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> how much did the bailout of banks, not just in
> U.S., cost?


Well the US ones made money

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program#TARP_fraud

> how much did the war in Iraq cost?


A lot. But look at what we got for the price!

WingNut Wrote:
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> I've always wondered about the logic of allowing
> radicals like the KKK or nazis to march when they
> require so many more cops and overtime to protect
> their stupid asses from the always larger
> counterprotesters.
>
> Is freedom to peacefully assemble a guarantee of
> police protection and accomodation to camp in city
> parks?

I wasn't a fan of the counter-productive nature of the Occupy movement, but the libertarian in me has to begrudgingly acknowledge their right to protest in whatever silly way they see fit regardless of the monetary cost involved. The right to peaceful assembly must be applied uniformly or else it's not a right.

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made money! Wrote:
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> j.pee morgan Wrote:
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> > how much did the bailout of banks, not just in
> > U.S., cost?
>
>
> Well the US ones made money
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief
> _Program#TARP_fraud
>
> > how much did the war in Iraq cost?
>
>
> A lot. But look at what we got for the price!

A lot of the cost of bailing out the banks is hidden in other programs and in cash infusions into AIG and the GSEs. We just gave $25 billion in tax credits to the banks to do mortgage principal reductions. In essence, the banks take $25 bn in losses but the taxpayer is covering it all.

lolmoney Wrote:
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> I'll take canceled Virtual Fence for $1 Billion
> Alex.

The virtual fence program is coming back. This time, it'll be towers, drones, and private security contractors.

http://www.azpm.org/news/story/2012/4/26/40-us-to-try-virtual-fence-anew/

itchy Wrote:
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> The irony is that 5% of these fucktards were there
> to protest about the financial predicament of the
> U.S. while the rest just thought "it was cool" to
> act out like jr. anarchists by disrespecting
> authority and hanging out like filthy hippies.
>
> We should have learned something from China: run
> over a few of them with tanks and its back to
> business as usuall within days.
>
> Occupy that filthy hippie wannabes.

Occupy movement was originally a student protest against the banks that held their education loans.

The banks, with the help of the Republican Congress, pushed through the 2005 bankruptcy overhaul which made it much harder to discharge student loans in bankruptcy. Until then, the law only pertained to government loans. The banks and other big borrowers have been getting bailouts. If the students have been able to get jobs to pay off the loans, it wouldn't be an issue.

origin of Occupy student protests Wrote:
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> itchy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The irony is that 5% of these fucktards were
> there
> > to protest about the financial predicament of
> the
> > U.S. while the rest just thought "it was cool"
> to
> > act out like jr. anarchists by disrespecting
> > authority and hanging out like filthy hippies.
> >
> > We should have learned something from China:
> run
> > over a few of them with tanks and its back to
> > business as usuall within days.
> >
> > Occupy that filthy hippie wannabes.
>
> Occupy movement was originally a student protest
> against the banks that held their education
> loans.
>
> The banks, with the help of the Republican
> Congress, pushed through the 2005 bankruptcy
> overhaul which made it much harder to discharge
> student loans in bankruptcy. Until then, the law
> only pertained to government loans. The banks and
> other big borrowers have been getting bailouts.
> If the students have been able to get jobs to pay
> off the loans, it wouldn't be an issue.


Bullshit. From the start the Occupy 'movement' was a sham. It was orchestrated by far-left activists and anti-capitalists of the sort typically associated with the World Bank and similar protests. The stated reasons for the protest were completely contrived representing nothing more than, in their own words, a 'Trojan Horse' intended to draw in 'useful idiots' and a compliant media which misrepresented what it was.

Kalle Lasn's original announcement:

"Hey you rebels, radicals and utopian dreamers out there,

We are living through a rare crisis and moment of opportunity. Western industrialized nations are now being masticated by the financial monster they themselves created. This is triggering a mood that alternates between angry denial and sudden panic. It looks like something is about to break, opening the space for a necessary transformation and a total rethink of global economic affairs. Events are playing perfectly into our September 17 occupation of Wall Street.

So … can we on the left learn some new tricks? Can we head off to lower Manhattan with a fresh mindset and a powerful new demand?

Strategically speaking, there is a very real danger that if we naively put our cards on the table and rally around the "overthrow of capitalism" or some equally outworn utopian slogan, then our Tahrir moment will quickly fizzle into another inconsequential ultra-lefty spectacle soon forgotten. But if we have the cunning to come up with a deceptively simple Trojan Horse demand … something profound, yet so specific and doable that it is impossible for President Obama to ignore … something that spotlights Wall Street's financial capture of the US political system and confronts it with a pragmatic solution … like the reinstatement of the Glass-Steagall Act … or a 1% tax on financial transactions … or an independent investigation by the U.S. Department of Justice into the corporate corruption of our representatives in Washington … or another equally creative but downright practical demand that will emerge from the people's assemblies held during the occupation … and if we then put our asses on the line, screw up our courage and hang in there day after day, week after week, until a large swath of Americans start rooting for us and President Obama is forced to respond … then we just might have a crack at creating a decisive moment of truth for America, a first concrete step towards achieving the radical changes we all dream about unencumbered by commitments to existing power structures.

So, let's learn the strategic lessons of Tahrir (nonviolence), Syntagma (tenacity), Puerta del Sol (people's assemblies) and lay aside adherence to political parties and worn-out lefty dogmas. On September 17, let's sow the seeds of a new culture of resistance in America that fires up a permanent democratic awakening.

See you on Wall St. Sept 17. Bring Tent."

http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/occupywallstreet-update.html?page=1


Background on the origins of OWS:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/11/28/111128fa_fact_schwartz

Lester Wrote:
> The virtual fence program is coming back. This
> time, it'll be towers, drones, and private
> security contractors.
>
> http://www.azpm.org/news/story/2012/4/26/40-us-to-
> try-virtual-fence-anew/

It will only be used by the government to pad the pockets of defense contractors (and maybe spy on citizens).

And yet, almost magically, the cunning illegal alien with a 3rd grade education will somehow defeat our cutting edge technology and claim their rightful territory in front of the Herndon 7-11.

We really should be protesting the defense contractors. They are fleecing this nation.

Send the bill to Barry, they are his friends.
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