does anyone have Don's 2nd show for download? Was there more RELM bashing?

Has RELM actually announced a pay show to address this? They cannot do that, and maintain any credibility.

exffx Wrote:
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> Billy Bob Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Don's freebie: Radio Gold!!!!!!!!!!!! I might
> > buy a month just to hear this. Ronic is a
> mess!
>
> Or you can pay for an episode of M & L and get
> Marc's version.
>
> hahahahahahahaha

Nice

my name goes here Wrote:
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> The day I pay for RELM's baby talk por-preemium
> show will be the same day I listen to Speewak's
> tribute to Jerry Lewis on his other painfully bad
> podcast.

I really question the pay model for these things. There are plenty of FREE good podcasts. Why would I pay for crap like RELM? A little more tempting to pay for Donnie G, but not really.

peekza Wrote:
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> bubbyman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fan since 106.7 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > >
> > > Of course, Don is saying more right at the
> > start
> > > that is actually negative. Missing money.
> Late
> > > payments. Stretching revenue and arguments
> > about
> > > disbursements. Believable and damning stuff.
> > >
> > Definitely believable, how about the "What if
> you
> > get hit by a car?" reason for not giving Don
> his
> > 80% as it came in.
>
>
> Anybody that has dealt with Ronnick knows what a
> slimy little thief he is...Even his best friend
> Lowell doesn't rust him with the $...that tells me
> all I need to know...If Lowell doesn't trust him ,
> why should Don?


Anybody WHO.......

I'm listening to the newest MandL...the opener is a lot of movie clips dealing with liars and comebacks. Not sure if they are addressing it this week, though. Probably not.

ahahahahaha.....Eat a dick....Never claimed to be a forensic linguist you tranny banging charlatan...

446...Semper Fat...
Attachments:

Google Music All Access costs me 7.99. Netflix is ten bucks. The 20+ podcasts I download on iTunes are free. I just don't see the value in subscribing to the premium shows. I'd love to have Don, Leykis, and Gary and Dino in the rotation, but where's the value?

(Maybe if for one larger fee I got a bundle of Don, Cumia, etc. premium content it would be more palpable. I don't want to have three different podcast subscriptions on my balance sheet.)

Groker Wrote:
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> my name goes here Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The day I pay for RELM's baby talk por-preemium
> > show will be the same day I listen to Speewak's
> > tribute to Jerry Lewis on his other painfully
> bad
> > podcast.
>
> I really question the pay model for these things.
> There are plenty of FREE good podcasts. Why would
> I pay for crap like RELM? A little more tempting
> to pay for Donnie G, but not really.

Fan since 106.7 Wrote:
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> Has RELM actually announced a pay show to address
> this? They cannot do that, and maintain any
> credibility.


It's coming....bank on it...Marc won't be able to let it go....Buzz will go hide under a rock....and Lowell? Hell, he has a real job....

peekza Wrote:
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> Fan since 106.7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Has RELM actually announced a pay show to
> address
> > this? They cannot do that, and maintain any
> > credibility.
>
>
> It's coming....bank on it...Marc won't be able to
> let it go....Buzz will go hide under a rock....and
> Lowell? Hell, he has a real job....

I could also see them "taking the high road" and only making off-hand comments to avoid addressing any real issues. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but Don seems to have enough hard evidence to make them look like pathetic amateurs at the very least.

RELM couldn't even pay Slow Joe. What did he make? Like $10 a show?



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Don loves picking fights and sometimes he wins. RELM is a joke, they couldn't handle Don as a member of the family and no way they'll handle him as an enemy.

Rob waxing on about Jerry being a genius.

Followed by LFF waxing on about ISIS and foreign affairs.

Craptastic in it's failure.

It's impossible to listen to Buzz's statements on that Kirk McEwen show with finding him either dishonest or delusional. Why did he think he could get away with those niceties? Even we knew that Don was coming out firing, and Don did so in a more rationed, credible and devastating way than I imagined.

Really odd. Or deceptive. Something.

I can't believe Don't would trash a long time friend like Buzz unless Buzz and RELM really screwed him bad.

You can really hear Don's emotions when he told Buzz never to call him again and when he talked about Rob and Mike.



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We are still friends??? Ok.

Buzz speaks Wrote:
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> Kirk McEwan has finally dropped. Buzz starts
> talking about Don (and Mike) at about 24:00. He
> says -- big surprise -- nothing groundbreaking.
>
> * It was a disagreement about business. It was a
> mutual decision. Buzz still considers Don "a
> friend."
> * The paid model is not a business model which we
> think works, and didn't feel it was working.
> * We're still friends.
> * At 26:00, Kirk says that it seems like Don and
> Mike "put their asses in your face." Buzz says,
> no, it's not like that.
> * Mike has been great since the breakup, and with
> Don, "it was a mutual decision."
> * Listeners are more emotional about this than
> Buzz, Don, etc. "They don't like hearing Mom and
> Dad fight."
>
> Big deal. Don's version will almost certainly be
> more entertaining.
>
> I do miss Buzz on Don's show. Perhaps it reminded
> me of the old D&M days.

8.13.2014

peekza Wrote:
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> Why is anyone surprised Buzz went out like the
> World Class Puss he is? Did anyone really think he
> would tell us what REALLY happened? Gotta wait for
> Don if you want the truth...He isn't a scared
> little girl like Buzz or a nutless bully like
> Mike...

8.14.2014. Your move, RELM

Fan since 106.7 Wrote:
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> I just listened to the Kirk McEwen show. It was a
> decent statement, if Buzz was a congressional
> campaign spokesman.
>
> RELM needs to understand that in this intimate,
> personality driven environment, this kind of fluff
> isn't acceptable. Buzz claimed that "Mike has been
> great!"...given all the upsetting things we heard
> Mike say RELM has to respect our intelligence.
> Don't need muck racking, but it's okay to say that
> you sometimes felt disrespected or that there were
> some rough patches.

Four Hour Club Wrote:
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> peekza Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fan since 106.7 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Has RELM actually announced a pay show to
> > address
> > > this? They cannot do that, and maintain any
> > > credibility.
> >
> >
> > It's coming....bank on it...Marc won't be able
> to
> > let it go....Buzz will go hide under a
> rock....and
> > Lowell? Hell, he has a real job....
>
> I could also see them "taking the high road" and
> only making off-hand comments to avoid addressing
> any real issues. The truth is probably somewhere
> in the middle, but Don seems to have enough hard
> evidence to make them look like pathetic amateurs
> at the very least.


yeah....but that will only make them look guiltier

my name goes here Wrote:
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> Don loves picking fights and sometimes he wins.
> RELM is a joke, they couldn't handle Don as a
> member of the family and no way they'll handle him
> as an enemy.


"Sometimes" he wins?

exffx Wrote:
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> I can't believe Don't would trash a long time
> friend like Buzz unless Buzz and RELM really
> screwed him bad.
>
> You can really hear Don's emotions when he told
> Buzz never to call him again and when he talked
> about Rob and Mike.


yes....Don's tell is the throat clear....when he does that, he's being REAL REAL

I have already had a better customer service experience with Don/Cleeng that I EVER had with TMOS/RELM

I think part of the problem is Don is used to first class organizations/support staff...Look at his new network....they have honest to God infrastructure....Not Marc's brother and RJ...

peekza Wrote:
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> Does Robbbbbb really think his buddy coined the phrase "The Fappening"?

Glad someone else pointed that out. But of course he has never heard the term "fap" before--(1) it was coined in this century, and (2) it originated from a website other than Facebook.


On another note, I had always assumed that Marc, RJ, and Buzz had all gotten raw deals from TMOS, just based on what assholes Mike and Robbbb are in general. Now after hearing Don's tale about relm, I'm starting to think there was actually a good deal of assholery on both sides.

I was also really struck by Don's belief that neither Mike nor Robbbb would have screwed him over the way Buzz and relm did. I guess what he was saying was that even though they aren't friends any more, and Don had really thought that they were, they were always fair and honest when it came to business. Definitely not the impression I've gotten from them.

peekza Wrote:
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> exffx Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I can't believe Don't would trash a long time
> > friend like Buzz unless Buzz and RELM really
> > screwed him bad.
> >
> > You can really hear Don's emotions when he told
> > Buzz never to call him again and when he talked
> > about Rob and Mike.
>
>
> yes....Don's tell is the throat clear....when he
> does that, he's being REAL REAL

Yeah and some shaky voice too.

peekza Wrote:
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> yes....Don's tell is the throat clear....when he
> does that, he's being REAL REAL


oh wow! thanks

please tell us more of what they said on their show pleaseeee

so interesting, neato!

Anyone else have a problem with their DGS / RELM Coupon code?

I had tha annual sub with RELM for Don's show.
When I tried to register today on Don's site, it looks like it comes up as a monthly sub and gave me a credit as such.

I didn't re-enter my credit card info and contacted the new DGS folks, thinking it should have shown as an annual sub credit...

Anyone else notice this?

Un real... Someone douche registered "Steve"...

I put in the coupon code, but had to put in a credit card card for it to go through. The balance does go from $9.99 to $0.00 for payment.

My understanding is that once your "free" account is over it automatically takes $$ out of your credit card each month.

exffx Wrote:
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> I put in the coupon code, but had to put in a
> credit card card for it to go through. The balance
> does go from $9.99 to $0.00 for payment.
>
> My understanding is that once your "free" account
> is over it automatically takes $$ out of your
> credit card each month.


Did you have an annual sub?

Also, I guess there won't be an annual $ going forward...?

Back to our champ: Mike. Classic whine today -- "I hate my genetics!! I hate my genetics!!!"

I guess his genes may be to blame, if he inherited being lazy and fat...



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peekza Wrote:
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> my name goes here Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Don loves picking fights and sometimes he wins.
> > RELM is a joke, they couldn't handle Don as a
> > member of the family and no way they'll handle
> him
> > as an enemy.
>
>
> "Sometimes" he wins?

Opie and Anthony feud 10 years ago. I love Don but have to be honest with myself, D&M lost that radio feud big time.

When Select Comfort bails, we'll hear him blame his bed for his back pain...

.



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I paid for 1 year.

Steve (formerly Steve) Wrote:
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> exffx Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I put in the coupon code, but had to put in a
> > credit card card for it to go through. The
> balance
> > does go from $9.99 to $0.00 for payment.
> >
> > My understanding is that once your "free"
> account
> > is over it automatically takes $$ out of your
> > credit card each month.
>
>
> Did you have an annual sub?
>
> Also, I guess there won't be an annual $ going
> forward...?



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exffx Wrote:
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> I paid for 1 year.
>
> Steve (formerly Steve) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > exffx Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I put in the coupon code, but had to put in a
> > > credit card card for it to go through. The
> > balance
> > > does go from $9.99 to $0.00 for payment.
> > >
> > > My understanding is that once your "free"
> > account
> > > is over it automatically takes $$ out of your
> > > credit card each month.
> >
> >
> > Did you have an annual sub?
> >
> > Also, I guess there won't be an annual $ going
> > forward...?

Thanks.

Steve (formerly Steve) Wrote:
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> Anyone else have a problem with their DGS / RELM
> Coupon code?
>
> I had tha annual sub with RELM for Don's show.
> When I tried to register today on Don's site, it
> looks like it comes up as a monthly sub and gave
> me a credit as such.
>
> I didn't re-enter my credit card info and
> contacted the new DGS folks, thinking it should
> have shown as an annual sub credit...
>
> Anyone else notice this?
>
> Un real... Someone douche registered "Steve"...

I got the "monthly" message as well, they don't have an annual, so it just rolls over month to month, free of charge

Intractable Insobriety Wrote:
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> Back to our champ: Mike. Classic whine today -- "I
> hate my genetics!! I hate my genetics!!!"
>
> I guess his genes may be to blame, if he inherited
> being lazy and fat...

I like how his latest bad back is from doing "seated rows" at the gym, and not carrying the equivalent of a 100 pound midget on his front 24 hours a day.

Intractable Insobriety Wrote:
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> Back to our champ: Mike. Classic whine today -- "I
> hate my genetics!! I hate my genetics!!!"
>
> I guess his genes may be to blame, if he inherited
> being lazy and fat...


I know right? I'm not sure he knows what genetics are

Four Hour Club Wrote:
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> Intractable Insobriety Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Back to our champ: Mike. Classic whine today --
> "I
> > hate my genetics!! I hate my genetics!!!"
> >
> > I guess his genes may be to blame, if he
> inherited
> > being lazy and fat...
>
> I like how his latest bad back is from doing
> "seated rows" at the gym, and not carrying the
> equivalent of a 100 pound midget on his front 24
> hours a day.

I'm not a doctor or a personal trainer, but I would think seated rows are horrible for someone with a bad knee/hip/lower back...Especially if the form is poor and you know it would be....He prolly locks his legs and leans back when he pulls...

Are there any bets that O'Meara stops going to church after the kid is baptized?

Or did he already talk about this?

taking bets on Mike quitting anything? Fish in a barrel my friend...unless it pertains to eating poorly...In that case, put your money on the bone saw...

Intractable Insobriety Wrote:
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> When Select Comfort bails, we'll hear him blame
> his bed for his back pain...


Being picky I know, but it's Sleep Number.

At over 50 years of age, and having carrying extra weight for 20 years, it ain't genetics. It's age and wear/tear.

Iron Log Wrote:
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> I'm listening to the newest MandL...the opener is
> a lot of movie clips dealing with liars and
> comebacks. Not sure if they are addressing it this
> week, though. Probably not.

I wondered that, too, but it then it veered into Pacino's speech from 'Any Given Sunday', and I either didn't get the connection, or I lost interest in figuring it out...

Of course they didn't.

Wait? Not! Wrote:
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> Iron Log Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm listening to the newest MandL...the opener
> is
> > a lot of movie clips dealing with liars and
> > comebacks. Not sure if they are addressing it
> this
> > week, though. Probably not.
>
> I wondered that, too, but it then it veered into
> Pacino's speech from 'Any Given Sunday', and I
> either didn't get the connection, or I lost
> interest in figuring it out...

I do have one question for Don....Did he really think he was going to take 80 cents on the dollar and everything else was coming out of the other 20 cents? If so, that was VERY naive...Taxes, bandwidth and Drew's salary?

Don botched it. Even if you accept his version of the facts as 100% true, they lead to a bunch of questions about this deal. Amateur hour on all fronts.

Yeah Don admitted he botched it too. He also gave Mike way too much credit imo. Think Mike wouldn't screw Don over big time if it would line his xxxxxxl pockets?

Blobb Spewsack Wrote:
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> Intractable Insobriety Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When Select Comfort bails, we'll hear him blame
> > his bed for his back pain...
>
>
> Being picky I know, but it's Sleep Number.

Shows you how well I listen to his reads....

I'll trust Don's judgment on this one, especially based on the nature of the relationship. I believe Don even says that Mike's role was to do nothing, business wise. It was a lot of content though, so excuse a mistake.

MikeWillEatAnything Wrote:
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> Yeah Don admitted he botched it too. He also gave
> Mike way too much credit imo. Think Mike wouldn't
> screw Don over big time if it would line his
> xxxxxxl pockets?

MikeWillEatAnything Wrote:
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> Yeah Don admitted he botched it too. He also gave
> Mike way too much credit imo. Think Mike wouldn't
> screw Don over big time if it would line his
> xxxxxxl pockets?


yeah, he admitted he botched it too...I can't believe he would sign that contract...I also agree with you that Mike would roll over on Don for a Hershey Bar...

Makes you wonder if Mike/Buzz/Marc entered into so sort of confidentiality clause as well.

I think so highly of your opinion too. Thanks soft-serve since 106.7!



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Mike "talking" about TP's show..." Just an amazing example of what it is to uh, be in this world and to exist in this world of broadcasting and do it with class and dignity, and I'll tell ya something, if you want a primer on uh how real men, who respect each other uh, conduct themselves and have all the fun in the world, poke fun at each other, give each other a hard time, but then really have ,uh nice things to say about working together, funny stories and interesting stories and above that, a behind the scenes look at what it really means to be a Network Anchorman" Is that a ringing endorsement or what?

Anyone else catch the little "Buzz" Mike and Robb did to start the show? the laughter gave them away.....don't know if they listened, but the definitely got the re-cap...

I love Robbbbb sticking to his guns about Jerry's GENIUS...It's like listening to a 400 pound man blame genetics for his own laziness...

Speaking of which....I know I touched on it for a second, but are there worse exercises for someone with a bad knee/hip/back than squats and rows?

peekza Wrote:
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> Anyone else catch the little "Buzz" Mike and Robb
> did to start the show? the laughter gave them
> away.....don't know if they listened, but the
> definitely got the re-cap...

Thanks for pointing that out. I dismissed it the first time as LFF doing a 'Survey Man' voice, and missed Headdd doing it entirely. Very obvious on relisten.

Wind sprints?

I would love to see the crew do 10 burpees (not the kind the normally do).

Four Hour Club Wrote:

Steve (formerly Steve) Wrote:
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> exffx Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I put in the coupon code, but had to put in a
> > credit card card for it to go through. The
> balance
> > does go from $9.99 to $0.00 for payment.
> >
> > My understanding is that once your "free"
> account
> > is over it automatically takes $$ out of your
> > credit card each month.
>
>
> Did you have an annual sub?
>
> Also, I guess there won't be an annual $ going
> forward...?



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> Intractable Insobriety Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Back to our champ: Mike. Classic whine today --
> "I
> > hate my genetics!! I hate my genetics!!!"
> >
> > I guess his genes may be to blame, if he
> inherited
> > being lazy and fat...
>
> I like how his latest bad back is from doing
> "seated rows" at the gym, and not carrying the
> equivalent of a 100 pound midget on his front 24
> hours a day.

I'm not a doctor or a personal trainer, but I would think seated rows are horrible for someone with a bad knee/hip/lower back...Especially if the form is poor and you know it would be....He prolly locks his legs and leans back when he pulls...

Wait? Not! Wrote:
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> Iron Log Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm listening to the newest MandL...the opener
> is
> > a lot of movie clips dealing with liars and
> > comebacks. Not sure if they are addressing it
> this
> > week, though. Probably not.
>
> I wondered that, too, but it then it veered into
> Pacino's speech from 'Any Given Sunday', and I
> either didn't get the connection, or I lost
> interest in figuring it out...

oh wow! thanks

please tell us more of what they said on their show pleaseeee

so interesting, neato!

Don't worry, we will, if only for the hearing impaired among us. You're more than welcome!

Wait? Not! Wrote:
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> peekza Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Anyone else catch the little "Buzz" Mike and
> Robb
> > did to start the show? the laughter gave them
> > away.....don't know if they listened, but the
> > definitely got the re-cap...
>
> Thanks for pointing that out. I dismissed it the
> first time as LFF doing a 'Survey Man' voice, and
> missed Headdd doing it entirely. Very obvious on
> relisten.


Robbbbbb's schadenfreudic laughter tipped me off

EcNj4 Wrote:
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>
> oh wow! thanks
>
> please tell us more of what they said on their
> show pleaseeee
>
> so interesting, neato!


Keep bringin" the funny guy

For those that have subscriptions to the new Don Geronimo podcast, have you found a way to download the episodes? I don't see links on the Dongeronimopodcast.com website..

Good works Wrote:
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> Don't worry, we will, if only for the hearing
> impaired among us. You're more than welcome!

That's the kind of people we are. Generous, sharing, giving, thinking of others. I am humbled to post among you.

Thinking of this forum and the good it does, and inspired by two of our favorite assholes, Spewak and Lewis, I feel an anthem coming on...

Walk on through the wind
Walk on through the rain
Though your dreams be tossed and blown
Walk on, walk on with hope, hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone
You'll never walk alone
You'll never walk alone

Intractable Insobriety Wrote:
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> Thinking of this forum and the good it does, and
> inspired by two of our favorite assholes, Spewak
> and Lewis, I feel an anthem coming on...
>
> Walk on through the wind
> Walk on through the rain
> Though your dreams be tossed and blown
> Walk on, walk on with hope, hope in your heart
> And you'll never walk alone
> You'll never walk alone
> You'll never walk alone


nice

You are 100% insane if you think the LFF wouldn't do a show with Don.

That would likely result in the LFF making much more $ and doing a bit more work (around the same amount that he did a decade ago).

If EitM is on in the mornings in NYC than radio is in a very sad state.

Picture the D&M podcast (paid of course) where they don't give a single fuck and realize they are 5 (or so) years away from retirement.

It will never happen, but it would be wonderful.

Well, this radio war (or whatever it is) got me to listen again.

Jhop's score:
Don is interesting and worth my time
TMOS made some strange Buzz reference and was lame and not worth my time
MandL haven't listen to it yet, but if Marc hasn't shown up here they will wimp out

Marc isn't coming over here to "set the record straight" JHop...He's a thief and a liar, but he isn't crazy...That slimy MFer would get gutted like a fish...."Marc where did the money go?" "Marc did you ever pay Joe?" "How much was your side deal at Quench?" "Remind me again....How long did that $1200 from Reno sit in a drawer?"

peekza Wrote:
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> Marc isn't coming over here to "set the record
> straight" JHop...He's a thief and a liar, but he
> isn't crazy...That slimy MFer would get gutted
> like a fish...."Marc where did the money go?"
> "Marc did you ever pay Joe?" "How much was your
> side deal at Quench?" "Remind me again....How long
> did that $1200 from Reno sit in a drawer?"


exactly hes lower than whale shit.



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The whole thing is strange to me.

D&M claim they parted on good terms. Cool. So, if that is true, why wouldn't Don call LFF (whom was his partner for many years) and ask him about this intern that was part of the LFF's show that started his own podcast network.

If Don is really LPS's kid's godfather, wouldn't Don have a part in the LPS's life and ask the LPS about Marc?

When Buzz started with Don, wouldn't Don ask him about TMOS and Marc?

It simply doesn't add up. I'm starting to think this is performance art.

I think this happened:
Don gets fired & Buzz and Marc quit / fired from TMOS (I don't remember the timeline)

Marc & Buzz were hitting the bong and thought to add Don to RELM due to him being fired and Buzz called him.

Marc and Buzz pitch the idea to Don. He likes it. Since he knows these guys.

But here is where this breaks down. Don can pick up the phone and get the real story from the LFF or LPS.

Maybe don thinks he is a "Big Man" and doesn't need input, but I doubt that.

Maybe the LFF / LPS wimped out and said Marc is a good guy they just didn't see eye-to-eye.

The entire thing is just strange.

If the LFF told Don that Marc sucked, wy wouldn't Don just go directly to Kappy?

It doesn't add up.

So according to the only person that will talk about it, here's how it went:

Don leftD&M, no contact with any former co-workers until slow Joe got Buzz to call Don around the first of this year, still has had no contact with anyone TMOS related.

I believe Don quit D&M because when Freda died LFF did shit to step up and help him out. Don probably became resentful after carrying Mike for 25 years and getting nothing in return. Think of it as a divorce-type dynamic. If you grew to resent someone so much that you got a divorce, and there were no kids, nobody would consider it strange if you never spoke again.

I haven't listened to Don's rant and likely won't, but I think the answer to jhopkins' question is this: Buzz vouched for Marc. And that was enough for Don. So he feels doubly betrayed.

That said, Don is a pro and should have had a better understanding of what it was he'd be doing, how the $ would be spent and distributed, and the equipment he'd be given.

He was so needy to have a forum to bash KHTK that he jumped right in without proper due diligence.

That is 100% not true. Back in Year 1 of TMOS LFF talked about Don calling and wishing them luck and the LPS says he get Xmas cards from Don and presents for his kid on his bday.

There is clearly comm paths.

bubbyman Wrote:
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> So according to the only person that will talk
> about it, here's how it went:
>
> Don leftD&M, no contact with any former co-workers
> until slow Joe got Buzz to call Don around the
> first of this year, still has had no contact with
> anyone TMOS related.

Right, cool I agree.

But, if I'm in business with somebody for x years (where x is > 10), I'd call them and ask for the deal.

If I'm the godfather to some dumbass board op, why wouldn't I call him and ask for the details.

I think you all are blind.

This doesn't add up. Don isn't lazy and not dumb. He would call LFF and LPS. He'd get their version of the story. He'd juxtapose against what Buzz and the ex-intern is saying. And Kappy.

I think these are the options:
1) Everybody lied to Don and "took the high road". I don't think this it true due to Don being able to ride the LFF like a bitch.

2) Don didn't call ( / fact check). Sure, ok, maybe, but I don't think that he is that dumb, especially since he'd be able to read Buzz's tone about the LFF

3) There is bad blood and we are being taking for a ride


Light Bulb! Wrote:
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> I haven't listened to Don's rant and likely won't,
> but I think the answer to jhopkins' question is
> this: Buzz vouched for Marc. And that was enough
> for Don. So he feels doubly betrayed.
>
> That said, Don is a pro and should have had a
> better understanding of what it was he'd be doing,
> how the $ would be spent and distributed, and the
> equipment he'd be given.
>
> He was so needy to have a forum to bash KHTK that
> he jumped right in without proper due diligence.

jhopkinsffxu Wrote:
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> Right, cool I agree.
>
> But, if I'm in business with somebody for x years
> (where x is > 10), I'd call them and ask for the
> deal.
>
> If I'm the godfather to some dumbass board op, why
> wouldn't I call him and ask for the details.
>
> I think you all are blind.
>
> This doesn't add up. Don isn't lazy and not dumb.
> He would call LFF and LPS. He'd get their
> version of the story. He'd juxtapose against what
> Buzz and the ex-intern is saying. And Kappy.
>
> I think these are the options:
> 1) Everybody lied to Don and "took the high road".
> I don't think this it true due to Don being able
> to ride the LFF like a bitch.
>
> 2) Don didn't call ( / fact check). Sure, ok,
> maybe, but I don't think that he is that dumb,
> especially since he'd be able to read Buzz's tone
> about the LFF
>
> 3) There is bad blood and we are being taking for
> a ride
>
>
> Light Bulb! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I haven't listened to Don's rant and likely
> won't,
> > but I think the answer to jhopkins' question is
> > this: Buzz vouched for Marc. And that was
> enough
> > for Don. So he feels doubly betrayed.
> >
> > That said, Don is a pro and should have had a
> > better understanding of what it was he'd be
> doing,
> > how the $ would be spent and distributed, and
> the
> > equipment he'd be given.
> >
> > He was so needy to have a forum to bash KHTK
> that
> > he jumped right in without proper due diligence.

With all due respect, jhop, you're over thinking it. Don dropped LFF and Rob like the losers they were and wasn't going to break the ice to ask a out Ronick. As mentioned, Don went with RELM because of Buzz. Don probably assumed that since RELM had podcasts they would know how to provide what he wanted, or if not be could just flex nuts and easily get accomendated.

Why would Don ask Mike/Rob - two dummies that he doesn't respect with their operation- for their opinion? Why would that hold any weight for him? Don fancies himself a big shot he figured Buzz, his old buddy, would give him a fair shake and give him the platform he needed.

I wouldn't read much further than that. Don was foolish to link up with Ronick, and probably has a right to be upset with Buzz for leading him into the agreement. At the same time, it's not really on Buzz- with Don's ego/impatience and Ronick's track record of shadiness, a blowup was only a matter of time.

I think maybe you are right

I sit corrected

yeah....with all that money coming in, Marc was sure to steal some of it...

peekza Wrote:
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> yeah....with all that money coming in, Marc was
> sure to steal some of it...


That's funny, he didn't look Jewish.

Robb's Unfiltered Brain Wrote:
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> peekza Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > yeah....with all that money coming in, Marc was
> > sure to steal some of it...
>
>
> That's funny, he didn't look Jewish.


I bet he put it in his cARRRRRRR

Neil Tyson Wrote:
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> Don went with RELM because of Buzz. Don probably assumed that since
> RELM had podcasts they would know how to provide
> what he wanted, or if not be could just flex nuts
> and easily get accomendated.
>

"accomendated" ?

Does anything more need to said about this post?

For anyone else that had an annual DGS sub, it showed as a monthly when renewed for the new show, I got this reply from Cleeg...

The Cleeng Team (Cleeng Community & Support)

Sep 03 21:38

Hi Steve,

Thank you for contacting support. There was a small glitch in the import which is showing annual subscriber a month subscription; however, this is already known. Don't worry if you have a yearly subscription you have that and should see a change in the upcoming days.

Best regards,
-Wesley
Cleeng Customer Support.

Don bitched about the quality of equipment provided by the CBS Network. Is it any surprise RELM couldn't live up to his standards? Regarding Marc, I don't think you can take Don's version of what happened and leap to conclusions about Ronic's ethics. The issue could be as simple as Don not bothering to understand the economics of a startup. He has spent his whole career working for publicly financed broadcasting companies. Maybe the numbers just didn't work out as hoped. That doesn't mean there was ill intent at play.

Ug.

-
Attachments:

Admiral Rob Spewak suggests: If we don't know exactly where they are we should just do air strikes near them, that will at least keep them shook up.

Apparently, there are NO downloads of the new Don Geronimo show episodes for subscribers. You can only stream past episodes from the archive section at the website. So you can no longer use iPods or MP3 players to listen to episodes, say when you're exercising. And you can't listen in your car or from your smartphone unless you use your cellphone data, that's if you have a data plan at all. This is going to be a problem for many..

Mike R Wrote:
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> Apparently, there are NO downloads of the new Don
> Geronimo show episodes for subscribers. You can
> only stream past episodes from the archive section
> at the website. So you can no longer use iPods or
> MP3 players to listen to episodes, say when you're
> exercising. And you can't listen in your car or
> from your smartphone unless you use your cellphone
> data, that's if you have a data plan at all. This
> is going to be a problem for many..

Yeah, this is a real problem. Hope it changes soon.

Mike R Wrote:
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> Apparently, there are NO downloads of the new Don
> Geronimo show episodes for subscribers. You can
> only stream past episodes from the archive section
> at the website. So you can no longer use iPods or
> MP3 players to listen to episodes, say when you're
> exercising. And you can't listen in your car or
> from your smartphone unless you use your cellphone
> data, that's if you have a data plan at all. This
> is going to be a problem for many..

Give it some time.

He's scrambling to get his stuff up and running again and he's having to learn this stuff as he goes. I give him credit for honoring people who paid for it at RELM. I honestly believe he's doing the best he can. He's only been live for a few days.

I have not received my official response yet from the company Cleeng that handles the tech support for DGS, but several people that have received responses are hearing from Cleeng that there are no downloads period..

True American Hero Mike Wrote:
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> Ug.
>
> -


He can barely remember what he had for breky-brek...Fat chance he remembers either name in 3 months

bubbyman Wrote:
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> Admiral Rob Spewak suggests: If we don't know
> exactly where they are we should just do air
> strikes near them, that will at least keep them
> shook up.


Which might have trumped General Mike's dumbass plan

Steve (formerly Steve) Wrote:
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> Mike R Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Apparently, there are NO downloads of the new
> Don
> > Geronimo show episodes for subscribers. You
> can
> > only stream past episodes from the archive
> section
> > at the website. So you can no longer use iPods
> or
> > MP3 players to listen to episodes, say when
> you're
> > exercising. And you can't listen in your car
> or
> > from your smartphone unless you use your
> cellphone
> > data, that's if you have a data plan at all.
> This
> > is going to be a problem for many..
>
> Yeah, this is a real problem. Hope it changes
> soon.


Agreed...I signed up for a PODCAST, not a live stream...If you can't put it in a pod, it's not a podcast

When you listen to Don and Cumia talk podcasting early on, it's clear that they just don't know much about it. Obviously O'Meara was the king of ignorance in this area - he still might not know how to use iTunes. But it ain't all that hard. I feel like a grinder like Santana could've gotten him up and running in his sleep.

It sounds like there was a total lack of understanding about the mechanics of the business and internet broadcasting. Some of this stuff you can learn just from listening to the Carollas, EarWolfs, and Leykises getting started.

Mike R Wrote:
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> Apparently, there are NO downloads of the new Don
> Geronimo show episodes for subscribers. You can
> only stream past episodes from the archive section
> at the website. So you can no longer use iPods or
> MP3 players to listen to episodes, say when you're
> exercising. And you can't listen in your car or
> from your smartphone unless you use your cellphone
> data, that's if you have a data plan at all. This
> is going to be a problem for many..

If that's the case, then my subscription will be short lived. Bummer.

West Coast Rockville Wrote:
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> Mike R Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Apparently, there are NO downloads of the new
> Don
> > Geronimo show episodes for subscribers. You
> can
> > only stream past episodes from the archive
> section
> > at the website. So you can no longer use iPods
> or
> > MP3 players to listen to episodes, say when
> you're
> > exercising. And you can't listen in your car
> or
> > from your smartphone unless you use your
> cellphone
> > data, that's if you have a data plan at all.
> This
> > is going to be a problem for many..
>
> If that's the case, then my subscription will be
> short lived. Bummer.


ditto...I'll be out as well...If I wanted to be tethered to the internet, I might as well have satellite radio or watch Netflix...

Eventually he'll have to provide downloads for the exact reasons above, people want convienence. I think his main concern on this is the ease of sharing an mp3, and the way RELM's system would allow multiple logins for the live show, he stated that up to 30 people could listen live at the same time with the same login. What he doesn't know yet, and he will hopefully learn soon, is that people who pay for things don't normally give them away unless it's super easy or super hard. Look at it this way, if I can give a bunch of people my login with no inconvienence to me, some people will do that, but if someone else using it at the same time as me prevents me from getting what I want at that time, most people won't. Also, if I have to go to his site and set up my computer to rip the streams just so I can listen whenever I want, then I've put work into the mp3's, they are mine and I'll do whatever I want to with them including giving them away just because the system is such a pain in the ass, again just provide the mp3 and I'll never share anything but a few clips.

So he'll either learn, or lose a lot of subs fast, like as soon as the free period is over. The price is the other thing that will probably keep a lot from reupping next year, naybe he'll figure that out to.



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peekza Wrote:
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> West Coast Rockville Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mike R Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Apparently, there are NO downloads of the new
> > Don
> > > Geronimo show episodes for subscribers. You
> > can
> > > only stream past episodes from the archive
> > section
> > > at the website. So you can no longer use
> iPods
> > or
> > > MP3 players to listen to episodes, say when
> > you're
> > > exercising. And you can't listen in your car
> > or
> > > from your smartphone unless you use your
> > cellphone
> > > data, that's if you have a data plan at all.
> > This
> > > is going to be a problem for many..
> >
> > If that's the case, then my subscription will
> be
> > short lived. Bummer.
>
>
> ditto...I'll be out as well...If I wanted to be
> tethered to the internet, I might as well have
> satellite radio or watch Netflix...

I'll be out as well. I can't imagine they won't "remedy" this issue shortly, though... Too many people complaining about something that is pretty much available with every other podcast, radio show...

Slightly related subject, anyone interested in all of RELM's premium content? I'm uploading it to my cloud tonight and can post links or if you are a DGS sub, there's an easy way to get it.