I remember when I lived in Fairfax in the 1960s to mid 1970s and everyone was very Southern and you would go into the restaurant and they said "Y'all come back now". And they all had Virginia accents. Now they all are very rushed and talk really fast and I cant understand them.

Forgive me, I have moved away from the area and now live in Arizona. But I took a trip back a few years ago- and God this place has changed!

Im originally from California but I remember back in the day that area was very Southern.

What happened?

Fairfaxian Wrote:
> What happened?


Natural selection.

i.e. the process by which favorable heritable traits become more common in successive generations of a population of reproducing organisms, and unfavorable heritable traits become less common.

Fairfaxian Wrote:
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> I remember when I lived in Fairfax in the 1960s to
> mid 1970s and everyone was very Southern and you
> would go into the restaurant and they said "Y'all
> come back now". And they all had Virginia accents.
> Now they all are very rushed and talk really fast
> and I cant understand them.
>
> Forgive me, I have moved away from the area and
> now live in Arizona. But I took a trip back a few
> years ago- and God this place has changed!
>
> Im originally from California but I remember back
> in the day that area was very Southern.
>

You - aka Meade - decided to become nostalgic for a time when whitey put darkie in his place.
> What happened?

I dont know who this "Meade" person is. But I wonder if anyone else has lived in Fairfax for longer than a few years .

Fairfaxian Wrote:
>> But I wonder if anyone else has lived in Fairfax for longer than a few years .


Your past holds nothing but confrontation.

Meeper speaks the truth. I cringe when I hear southern accents in Nova.

Stinkfist Wrote:
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> Meeper speaks the truth. I cringe when I hear
> southern accents in Nova.


I find the southern accents charming. Its the northern ones i dont care for. Too fast and too nasal. But then again out in California, we're like that too.

I remember this very refined lady who worked at this little shop in Clifton. I remember how she said her cousin was a descendant of General Robert E. Lee and at every family wedding they used his sword to cut the cake.

Is there a Nova accent?

It must be a mix of ebonics from South Lakes, Cheech sounding slurs from herndon, and dipshit scoffyness from Great Falls.

Dont forget the gooks in Annandale who cant pronounce R's!

Stinkfist Wrote:
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> Is there a Nova accent?
>
> It must be a mix of ebonics from South Lakes,
> Cheech sounding slurs from herndon, and dipshit
> scoffyness from Great Falls.
>
> Dont forget the gooks in Annandale who cant
> pronounce R's!


There was the old Virginia accent in NOVA as I remember. If you're familiar with Senator Warner- a lot of people sounded like him. Not Mark Warner, John Warner. The guy that was married to Elizabeth Taylor. He was born and raised in the DC area.

Fairfaxian Wrote:
>> I find the southern accents charming.


Conversely, when I hear someone speak with a southern accent, I automatically deduct 10-20 points off their IQ.



>>>very refined lady.... at every family wedding they used his sword to cut the cake.


Nothing indicates a bunch of dumb hicks more than cutting a cake with a sword. An even dumber notion is that you think that is "refined".

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TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Fairfaxian Wrote:
> >> I find the southern accents charming.
>
>
> Conversely, when I hear someone speak with a
> southern accent, I automatically deduct 10-20
> points off their IQ.
>
>
>
> >>>very refined lady.... at every family wedding
> they used his sword to cut the cake.
>
>
> Nothing indicates a bunch of dumb hicks more than
> cutting a cake with a sword. An even dumber
> notion is that you think that is "refined".

And When I hear Northern accents their words hit my ears like jack hammers. I guess a siren and bomb going off sounds appealing to some

Heyyyyyy You guyyyyys! Aheeeem doing fieeeeen

Yeah, real uptown stuff.

Southrons are soft and easy on the ears. Especially Virginia Tidewater.

FFVBLUEBLOOD Wrote:
>> real uptown stuff


Well at least they don't use a friggin' sword to cut a wedding cake. LOL- I'd be embarrassed to be at a wedding where something like that was going on!

To the OP- listen Buddy, Fairfax is a bedroom community for DC. I dont know what it was exactly like when you lived here, but its now a melting pot. Geographically it may in the 'South", it is not somwehere between the North and the Real South (I wouldnt consider it the real South until Richmond , IMO)

You can't live in the past.

If you want to visit here fine. But don't expect to come here expecting people to talk like Scarlett O'Hara

In fact, dont expect that anywhere in the Deep South even

This is 2008

yeah, right.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
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lol @ teh cake

Its a shame how NOVA has changed. I remember when it really was a very nice place with friendly people who weren't always in a hurry all the time. They were not "hicks" They were genteel Virginians, some from the finest of families.

If someone commented on a Southern accent sounding unintelligent, my ears bleed the sound of a New Yorker, or a Chicago twang, or someone from Boston.

Id take a southern drawl any day over that. And I think that NOVA has gone to hell in a handbasket. I have friend from Georgia who told me flat out, nothern Virginia is NO LONGER the South. And she said its pure Yankee now along with most of Florida

Sadly, I agree.

I live in Roanoke now, and people here are much nicer

>>NOVA has gone to hell in a handbasket.
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I have lived in Fairfax my whole life. Well, I lived a year in Charlottesville, but that time of my life I try to forget.

I am still waiting for someone around her to speak English with or without a southern drawl.
You speaka da spanish just doesnt cut it

Meeper- LOL!

lolz

People in Fairfax don't sound like Virginians because most people living in Northern Virginia aren't from Virginia. Only 3 in 10 US born people here are.

NOVA is Silicon Valley II. Us transplants have invaded and turned this part of Virginia into a giant townhouse development/strip mall, devoid of any sense of southern culture. Sorry guys.

Joseph Wrote:
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> People in Fairfax don't sound like Virginians
> because most people living in Northern Virginia
> aren't from Virginia. Only 3 in 10 US born people
> here are.
>
> NOVA is Silicon Valley II. Us transplants have
> invaded and turned this part of Virginia into a
> giant townhouse development/strip mall, devoid of
> any sense of southern culture. Sorry guys.


I would agree with you except for being born some place dosent necessarily make one a local

I know someone born in New York City but raised in California since they were 8 years old . They are by no means a New Yorker.

Virginian Wrote:
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> Joseph Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > People in Fairfax don't sound like Virginians
> > because most people living in Northern Virginia
> > aren't from Virginia. Only 3 in 10 US born
> people
> > here are.
> >
> > NOVA is Silicon Valley II. Us transplants have
> > invaded and turned this part of Virginia into a
> > giant townhouse development/strip mall, devoid
> of
> > any sense of southern culture. Sorry guys.
>
>
> I would agree with you except for being born some
> place dosent necessarily make one a local
>
> I know someone born in New York City but raised in
> California since they were 8 years old . They are
> by no means a New Yorker.

I can agree with that. For example, if a man moves here from California, meets a woman from Florida living here, and they start a family, are the children really "Virginians"? I suppose technically they are, but considering the Virginia they're raised in differs greatly from the one some people here may have been raised in, I would understand if people didn't consider them such.

I was born and raised in New York myself, and lived there until I graduated high school. I certainly don't consider myself a Virginian just because I've been living here for a year and a half, and chances are no matter how long I do live here I never will. It goes back to my original point of the large number of transplants living in this area. Other than geographically speaking, how can you consider this to be "Virginia" if the majority of the people residing here aren't natives?

Joseph Wrote:
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> Virginian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Joseph Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > People in Fairfax don't sound like Virginians
> > > because most people living in Northern
> Virginia
> > > aren't from Virginia. Only 3 in 10 US born
> > people
> > > here are.
> > >
> > > NOVA is Silicon Valley II. Us transplants
> have
> > > invaded and turned this part of Virginia into
> a
> > > giant townhouse development/strip mall,
> devoid
> > of
> > > any sense of southern culture. Sorry guys.
> >
> >
> > I would agree with you except for being born
> some
> > place dosent necessarily make one a local
> >
> > I know someone born in New York City but raised
> in
> > California since they were 8 years old . They
> are
> > by no means a New Yorker.
>
> I can agree with that. For example, if a man moves
> here from California, meets a woman from Florida
> living here, and they start a family, are the
> children really "Virginians"? I suppose
> technically they are, but considering the Virginia
> they're raised in differs greatly from the one
> some people here may have been raised in, I would
> understand if people didn't consider them such.
>
> I was born and raised in New York myself, and
> lived there until I graduated high school. I
> certainly don't consider myself a Virginian just
> because I've been living here for a year and a
> half, and chances are no matter how long I do live
> here I never will. It goes back to my original
> point of the large number of transplants living in
> this area. Other than geographically speaking, how
> can you consider this to be "Virginia" if the
> majority of the people residing here aren't
> natives?

I thinks its where your parents are from that matters most. Most of these kids "born" in Fairfax have parents from New Jersey or something, and they are raised with that kind of mentality so even if they are in a place that is different, they never really assimilate into the culture.

On the other hand, if someone is born in New York but raised in Virginia and has Virginian parents, they will probably be more of a true Virginian.

because they lost their Virginiaty when DC popped their cherries.

> I thinks its where your parents are from that matters

Umm, why does that matter most???

If you live in Virginia, you are a VIRGINIAN. It doesn't matter if you were born in Timbuktu... you're still a resident and citizen of Virginia (i.e. Virginian). When you hear a newscast that says "Most Virginians are opposed to the new laws", they are referring to the people who live in the state(i.e. me, you, my neighbors, etc.)

Your strange personal ideology over the subject ignores simple fact.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> > I thinks its where your parents are from that
> matters
>
> Umm, why does that matter most???
>
> If you live in Virginia, you are a VIRGINIAN. It
> doesn't matter if you were born in Timbuktu...
> you're still a resident and citizen of Virginia
> (i.e. Virginian). When you hear a newscast that
> says "Most Virginians are opposed to the new
> laws", they are referring to the people who live
> in the state(i.e. me, you, my neighbors, etc.)
>
> Your strange personal ideology over the subject
> ignores simple fact.


True, but when they refer to Virginians in that sense they mean it purely as a designation for people who reside there, and nothing more.

If someone asks me where I'm from, I'm most certainly not going to say Virginia. I'll explain where I'm originally from, THEN mention where I currently live. If you were born somewhere and moved to Virginia at a very young age, I can maybe understand saying you're from Virginia for the sake of the argument, but for someone like me who was born and lived in another state until I was 18, all that doesn't get thrown away just because I relocated to Virginia when I was 22.

I seriously doubt you can take a Virginian who was born and lived here their entire lives and expect them to consider me one.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> > I thinks its where your parents are from that
> matters
>
> Umm, why does that matter most???
>
> If you live in Virginia, you are a VIRGINIAN. It
> doesn't matter if you were born in Timbuktu...
> you're still a resident and citizen of Virginia
> (i.e. Virginian). When you hear a newscast that
> says "Most Virginians are opposed to the new
> laws", they are referring to the people who live
> in the state(i.e. me, you, my neighbors, etc.)
>
> Your strange personal ideology over the subject
> ignores simple fact.


Sorry Meep, I have to disagree. Being a Virginian is more than just residing here. Its more of a blood line thing - in the truest sense, because older Virginians families have been in the Commonwealth for generations- then you have to consider the whole emotional War Between The States thing that unified it even more...

Its a cultural mindset/identity thing

I could move to California but Id never consider myself a Californian. I would be a Virginian who happens to live in California.

Virginian Wrote:
>> Being a Virginian... Its more of a blood line thing - in the truest sense

What a bewildering sense of logic you have about this whole thing, like it's some kind of ethnic identity, lol.

Maybe they should start a state-wide program to test the blood of all residents so that we can prove who is more pure "Virginia". Sorta like Apartheid. Then we can have an institutionalized caste system where people are labeled things like "Half-Commonwealther" or "White Aryan Super-Virginian."

You're fucked up man.

Why dont people in Fairfax sound like Virginians any more?

Because we don't want to be mistaken for Meade Skelton

Lurker.. Wrote:
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> Why dont people in Fairfax sound like Virginians
> any more?
>
> Because we don't want to be mistaken for Meade
> Skelton


LMAO!!!!!!!

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Virginian Wrote:
> >> Being a Virginian... Its more of a blood line
> thing - in the truest sense
>
> What a bewildering sense of logic you have about
> this whole thing, like it's some kind of ethnic
> identity, lol.
>
> Maybe they should start a state-wide program to
> test the blood of all residents so that we can
> prove who is more pure "Virginia". Sorta like
> Apartheid. Then we can have an institutionalized
> caste system where people are labeled things like
> "Half-Commonwealther" or "White Aryan
> Super-Virginian."
>
> You're fucked up man.

Actually, you hit the nail on the head. For years it was an ethnic identity. Since most people in the Southern states were not homogonized ethnically the way they were in the Northern cities (i.e. all German, all Irish, all I-talian), your state's identity was much more important as your cultural reference point.

In a city or town in Virginia there no "Irish Neighborhoods" or I-talian, etc. They all lived next door to each other.

They were Virginians.

For christ's sake, can't someone put a muzzle on Meade?

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Virginian Wrote:
> For years it was an ethnic identity.


Look, if you are insinuating that most people here used to consider "Virginian" to be an ethnic group, you have no reason to complain when people call you guys "dumb rednecks".

Genevieve Wrote:
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> For christ's sake, can't someone put a muzzle on
> Meade?

A muzzle? That might solve the signing problem, but he\she would still be able to type.

ah right shurr thayat all vuhjinyuns is tawkin lyk thiz. Its a right shayame ah cant get no suhweet tea in Nothun Vuhjinyuh. Y'all are jus right jealous of my creamy skin and be-yootiful complexshun. so theyuh!

"Why dont people in Fairfax sound like Virginians any more?"


Because they all moved into their parents' spare bedroom in Richmond to pursue their singing career.

Lurker.. Wrote:
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> Why dont people in Fairfax sound like Virginians
> any more?
>
> Because we don't want to be mistaken for Meade
> Skelton


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Foghorn Leghorn sez....
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