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Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Bringer of good news ()
Date: February 15, 2012 09:09AM


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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Les ()
Date: February 15, 2012 09:26AM

Rising gas prices threaten Obama
By Ed Rogers

I can’t match Carter’s prediction about Romney’s political demise if Santorum wins in Michigan. February 28th is too far away and I’m too heavily invested in predicting that Romney will be our nominee for me to change now. More on the Arizona and Michigan primaries later.

It’s not a prediction, but it is underreported and I think underappreciated, how significant the rise in gasoline prices could be economically and therefore politically. Gasoline prices have a real-time impact on middle-class Americans and ultimately everybody feels it when there is an increase. We’re now at $3.51 a gallon, with speculation that it will go to $4.00 and maybe even $5.00 later this year. This is bad for everybody, and it’s very bad politically for President Obama. He has never made it plain that he is even against high gasoline prices. If he thinks they’re too high, I don’t know what his plan is to bring them down. It’s been very plain that he wants higher energy prices so Americans will use less of it. We know he wants to tax the oil companies, but if you tax a company, what tends to happen to the price of its product? Of course the prices go up. So isn’t that what he is for?

I predict Obama is going to have an epiphany pretty soon, and he and his fellow Democrats will develop a straight-face call for lower gasoline prices. It won’t be easy, and the hypocrisy alarms will be blaring all over America.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/02/14/146873765/in-france-drivers-face-gas-prices-of-8-a-gallon

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: so ()
Date: February 15, 2012 09:32AM

Les Wrote:
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> Rising gas prices threaten Obama
> By Ed Rogers
>
> I can’t match Carter’s prediction about
> Romney’s political demise if Santorum wins in
> Michigan. February 28th is too far away and I’m
> too heavily invested in predicting that Romney
> will be our nominee for me to change now. More on
> the Arizona and Michigan primaries later.
>
> It’s not a prediction, but it is underreported
> and I think underappreciated, how significant the
> rise in gasoline prices could be economically and
> therefore politically. Gasoline prices have a
> real-time impact on middle-class Americans and
> ultimately everybody feels it when there is an
> increase. We’re now at $3.51 a gallon, with
> speculation that it will go to $4.00 and maybe
> even $5.00 later this year. This is bad for
> everybody, and it’s very bad politically for
> President Obama. He has never made it plain that
> he is even against high gasoline prices. If he
> thinks they’re too high, I don’t know what his
> plan is to bring them down. It’s been very plain
> that he wants higher energy prices so Americans
> will use less of it. We know he wants to tax the
> oil companies, but if you tax a company, what
> tends to happen to the price of its product? Of
> course the prices go up. So isn’t that what he
> is for?
>
> I predict Obama is going to have an epiphany
> pretty soon, and he and his fellow Democrats will
> develop a straight-face call for lower gasoline
> prices. It won’t be easy, and the hypocrisy
> alarms will be blaring all over America.
>
> http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/02/14/146
> 873765/in-france-drivers-face-gas-prices-of-8-a-ga
> llon

True, but Gas hits its high in May-June and bottoms out in November. Also, people are more used to higher gas prices, so the impact if any won't be much to hang your hat on.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Date: February 15, 2012 09:56AM

Obama will use the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to fuck over speculators, like Clinton used to do. Do that a couple of times and gas prices will stay in a reasonable range.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Reagan was Best! ()
Date: February 15, 2012 12:05PM

I just wish the republicans could make their minds up on who they are electing. Every month there is a new leader. Seems once you are leading the GOP polls you drop like a rock out of the race.

Let's recap:
Palin out
Bachmann out
Cain out
Paul out
Romney out

How long will recturom last? A month?

Doesn't really matter because Obama is getting re-elected in the end. What a piss poor bunch of republican candidates!

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Hay Zeus ()
Date: February 15, 2012 12:10PM

I guess everyone can stay at home worry free on election tuesday knowing that Obama will win reelection with a landslide.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: you ain't too bright, boy ()
Date: February 15, 2012 12:12PM

Reagan was Best! Wrote:
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> I just wish the republicans could make their minds
> up on who they are electing. Every month there is
> a new leader. Seems once you are leading the GOP
> polls you drop like a rock out of the race.
>
> Let's recap:
> Palin out
> Bachmann out
> Cain out
> Paul out
> Romney out
>
> How long will recturom last? A month?
>
> Doesn't really matter because Obama is getting
> re-elected in the end. What a piss poor bunch of
> republican candidates!


When was Palin ever in?

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Don't Tread on Me ()
Date: February 15, 2012 12:20PM

Don't get all pissy at me. I didn't pick the fuckwad republican candidates.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: you are drowing ()
Date: February 15, 2012 12:26PM

Don't Tread on Me Wrote:
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> Don't get all pissy at me. I didn't pick the
> fuckwad republican candidates.


Nobody seems pissy. Pointing out your stupidity is not pissy. It isn't my fault you aren't informed enough to know who is/was a Republican candidate.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: 4 More years! ()
Date: February 15, 2012 12:33PM

Reagan was Best! Wrote:
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> I just wish the republicans could make their minds
> up on who they are electing. Every month there is
> a new leader. Seems once you are leading the GOP
> polls you drop like a rock out of the race.
>
> Let's recap:
> Palin out
> Bachmann out
> Cain out
> Paul out
> Romney out
>
> How long will recturom last? A month?
>
> Doesn't really matter because Obama is getting
> re-elected in the end. What a piss poor bunch of
> republican candidates!

Forgot the great white GOP Texan hope Rick Perry.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Oil Guy ()
Date: February 15, 2012 12:42PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Obama will use the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to
> fuck over speculators, like Clinton used to do. Do
> that a couple of times and gas prices will stay in
> a reasonable range.


You have no concept of how the global fuel oil pool market functions. Releasing our entire 60 million barrel SPR into the market allows everyone to bid on it. It doesn't just flow directly to US and Mexican refineries.

60 million barrels is about a 3 day supply for the US alone making any release from the SPR insignificant. More insignificant would be any meaningful or lasting downward pressure on fuel prices at the pump.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/07/20/gas-prices-rise-despite-obama-iea-oil-release

The only effect would be psychological for consumers in perceiving that Obama is at least trying to help.

Threats like Iran dwarf market dynamics in fuel oil speculation compared to SPR release chatter.

Obama is in a no win situation.If the economy even modestly grows at 2.5% GDP we will have $5.00 per gallon gas this summer. If Iran saber rattles we have $5.00 per gallon gas.

$5.00 per gallon fuel= Obama's defeat.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: February 15, 2012 02:49PM

How about taking away some of exxons tax breaks if they don't ramp up production in all their damn idle refineries.

Anyone feel like protesting on their rediculously huge campus off rt 50 accross from INOVA?

Punch and pie?

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: dedicated liberal ()
Date: February 15, 2012 03:03PM

Atom Wrote:
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> How about taking away some of exxons tax breaks if
> they don't ramp up production in all their damn
> idle refineries.
>
> Anyone feel like protesting on their rediculously
> huge campus off rt 50 accross from INOVA?
>
> Punch and pie?


Will it include defecating on vehicles? That is the only way I think that change will occur.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Sir Laughs Alot ()
Date: February 15, 2012 03:18PM

The longer GOP candidates keep campaigning the better off Obama's chances of getting re-elected.

I bet you $10,000 on that.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Out Yer Ass ()
Date: February 15, 2012 03:30PM

Oil Guy Wrote:
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> Obama is in a no win situation.If the economy even
> modestly grows at 2.5% GDP we will have $5.00 per
> gallon gas this summer. If Iran saber rattles we
> have $5.00 per gallon gas.
>
> $5.00 per gallon fuel= Obama's defeat.

That's Grade A #1 GOP-tard bullshit.

If the economy is growing @ 2.5% & addting 300K jobs/month, nobody will say boo about $5 gas.

If gas prices spike due to events beyond his control (e.g.; Iranian saber rattling), only lying GOP-tard scum will try to blame Obama.

Face it: Nothing (least of all his opponent in November) is going to prevent a 2nd Obama term.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Repubtards ()
Date: February 15, 2012 03:31PM


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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: No. 1 ()
Date: February 15, 2012 03:45PM

Out Yer Ass Wrote:
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> If the economy is growing @ 2.5% & addting 300K
> jobs/month, nobody will say boo about $5 gas.

Are you fucking kidding me? I am an Obama voter and if gas goes to $5/gallon, that will have a huge cost on the economy come spring and summer. Staycations will be all the rage. See how that helps out swing states that rely on tourism - FL, NC, NV, VA, etc.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Electric ()
Date: February 15, 2012 03:50PM

No. 1 Wrote:
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> Out Yer Ass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If the economy is growing @ 2.5% & addting 300K
> > jobs/month, nobody will say boo about $5 gas.
>
> Are you fucking kidding me? I am an Obama voter
> and if gas goes to $5/gallon, that will have a
> huge cost on the economy come spring and summer.
> Staycations will be all the rage. See how that
> helps out swing states that rely on tourism - FL,
> NC, NV, VA, etc.

The Chevy Volt is looking pretty good now. 35 miles, no gas usage at all.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: LOL, not ()
Date: February 15, 2012 03:52PM

Electric Wrote:
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> No. 1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Out Yer Ass Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If the economy is growing @ 2.5% & addting
> 300K
> > > jobs/month, nobody will say boo about $5 gas.
> >
> > Are you fucking kidding me? I am an Obama voter
> > and if gas goes to $5/gallon, that will have a
> > huge cost on the economy come spring and summer.
>
> > Staycations will be all the rage. See how
> that
> > helps out swing states that rely on tourism -
> FL,
> > NC, NV, VA, etc.
>
> The Chevy Volt is looking pretty good now. 35
> miles, no gas usage at all.


Yeah, it is oh so practical to drive to the beach!

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Out Yer Ass ()
Date: February 15, 2012 04:11PM

No. 1 Wrote:
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> if gas goes to $5/gallon, that will have a
> huge cost on the economy come spring and summer.
> Staycations will be all the rage. See how that
> helps out swing states that rely on tourism - FL,
> NC, NV, VA, etc.

I'm not arguing that $5/gal. gas will be a good thing. If the price of gas increases due to economic growth, there won’t be much political cost to Obama.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: No. 1 ()
Date: February 15, 2012 04:19PM

Out Yer Ass Wrote:
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> No. 1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > if gas goes to $5/gallon, that will have a
> > huge cost on the economy come spring and summer.
>
> > Staycations will be all the rage. See how
> that
> > helps out swing states that rely on tourism -
> FL,
> > NC, NV, VA, etc.
>
> I'm not arguing that $5/gal. gas will be a good
> thing. If the price of gas increases due to
> economic growth, there won’t be much political
> cost to Obama.

I hope you are right, but $5/gal gas will depress certain segments of our society eve further. No good can come from gas prices that high, no matter what the level of economic growth.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Romtorinch ()
Date: February 15, 2012 04:56PM

Out Yer Ass Wrote:
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> Oil Guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obama is in a no win situation.If the economy
> even
> > modestly grows at 2.5% GDP we will have $5.00
> per
> > gallon gas this summer. If Iran saber rattles
> we
> > have $5.00 per gallon gas.
> >
> > $5.00 per gallon fuel= Obama's defeat.
>
> That's Grade A #1 GOP-tard bullshit.
>
> If the economy is growing @ 2.5% & addting 300K
> jobs/month, nobody will say boo about $5 gas.
>
> If gas prices spike due to events beyond his
> control (e.g.; Iranian saber rattling), only lying
> GOP-tard scum will try to blame Obama.
>
> Face it: Nothing (least of all his opponent in
> November) is going to prevent a 2nd Obama term.


LOL. $5 gas will sink Odumbo faster than WTL goes down on his boyfriend. Wait until the GOP picks a candidate and starts hammering away on him day after day with a billion $$$$ in superPAC money.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: February 15, 2012 05:26PM

In 2008 I drove a car that got 12mpg. Now I have a car that gets 36mpg.

I don't think I'm the only one who made this change because I loved acceleration, V8s and fat tiers more than my family.

So, while the rise in gas prices suck, it's not going to have the same impact (I believe high energy prices caused the housing bust (see previous posts.)) Diesel is up less than 15 cents, which further deadens the impact.

And I do blame Obama. Bush certainly caused the high prices (see any graph of gas prices for 99-present) but Obama has been unable to reverse that republican legacy.

I'll never forgive Dick and Bush for killing the V8.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2012 05:27PM by Atom.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Funny shit ()
Date: February 15, 2012 05:37PM

LOL, not Wrote:
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> Electric Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No. 1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Out Yer Ass Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > If the economy is growing @ 2.5% & addting
> > 300K
> > > > jobs/month, nobody will say boo about $5
> gas.
> > >
> > > Are you fucking kidding me? I am an Obama
> voter
> > > and if gas goes to $5/gallon, that will have
> a
> > > huge cost on the economy come spring and
> summer.
> >
> > > Staycations will be all the rage. See how
> > that
> > > helps out swing states that rely on tourism -
> > FL,
> > > NC, NV, VA, etc.
> >
> > The Chevy Volt is looking pretty good now. 35
> > miles, no gas usage at all.
>
>
> Yeah, it is oh so practical to drive to the beach!


Just don't plan on blasting your 800 watt sub base unless you live right on the beach.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: #s guy ()
Date: February 15, 2012 05:40PM

Atom Wrote:
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> In 2008 I drove a car that got 12mpg. Now I have
> a car that gets 36mpg.
>
> I don't think I'm the only one who made this
> change because I loved acceleration, V8s and fat
> tiers more than my family.
>
> So, while the rise in gas prices suck, it's not
> going to have the same impact (I believe high
> energy prices caused the housing bust (see
> previous posts.)) Diesel is up less than 15 cents,
> which further deadens the impact.
>
> And I do blame Obama. Bush certainly caused the
> high prices (see any graph of gas prices for
> 99-present) but Obama has been unable to reverse
> that republican legacy.
>
> I'll never forgive Dick and Bush for killing the
> V8.

When Bush took office, gas was $1.45. When he left office, it was $1.85.

When Bush was re-elected, it was $1.95

When the GOP lost the House, it was $2.20

When Obama won re-election, it was $2.34

See a trend there? You don't think consumers punish the party in power when gas prices go up?

When Obama took office, gas was $1.85. Today, it is $3.46.

Do the math.

If you think the average consumer's fuel efficiency has tripled in 3 years, you need a brain transplant.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Hey Stoop! ()
Date: February 15, 2012 05:48PM

Out Yer Ass Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> No. 1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > if gas goes to $5/gallon, that will have a
> > huge cost on the economy come spring and summer.
>
> > Staycations will be all the rage. See how
> that
> > helps out swing states that rely on tourism -
> FL,
> > NC, NV, VA, etc.
>
> I'm not arguing that $5/gal. gas will be a good
> thing. If the price of gas increases due to
> economic growth, there won’t be much political
> cost to Obama.

Damn it pull your fucking head out! the whole deal is that $5.00 gas will kill economic growth not support or sustain it.

The problem is the country is full of stupid fucking morons just like you. Please make sure you take advantage of Obama's free contraception and abortions, sterilize your needles with a match, have as much unprotected homosexual sex as you can, and don't worry about colonoscopies if you are over 50 because it's a big drug company conspiracy.

Now go out and buy you a fucking Volt.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Atum ()
Date: February 15, 2012 05:58PM

Atom Wrote:
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> In 2008 I sucked 12mpg of cum. Now I suck 36mpg of cum.
>
> I don't think I'm the only one who made this
> change because I loved male sperm, V8s and fat
> dicks more than my family.
>
> So, while the rise in yank prices suck, it's not
> going to have the same impact (I believe high
> male prostitute prices caused the housing bust (see
> previous posts.)) Anal lube is up less than 15 cents,
> which further deadens the impact.
>
> And I do blame Obama.

Your a stupid fuck.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Hey Stoop! ()
Date: February 15, 2012 06:10PM

Hey Stoop! Wrote:
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> Out Yer Ass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No. 1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > if gas goes to $5/gallon, that will have a
> > > huge cost on the economy come spring and
> summer.
> >
> > > Staycations will be all the rage. See how
> > that
> > > helps out swing states that rely on tourism -
> > FL,
> > > NC, NV, VA, etc.
> >
> > I'm not arguing that $5/gal. gas will be a good
> > thing. If the price of gas increases due to
> > economic growth, there won’t be much
> political
> > cost to Obama.
>
> Damn it pull your fucking head out! the whole deal
> is that $5.00 gas will kill economic growth not
> support or sustain it.
>
> The problem is the country is full of stupid
> fucking morons just like you. Please make sure you
> take advantage of Obama's free contraception and
> abortions, sterilize your needles with a match,
> have as much unprotected homosexual sex as you
> can, and don't worry about colonoscopies if you
> are over 50 because it's a big drug company
> conspiracy.
>
> Now go out and buy you a fucking Volt.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204792404577224932060341956.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

"Jump in Gas Prices Threatens Recovery"

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: James ()
Date: February 21, 2012 09:49AM

When Bush was in office the media said, " High gas prices means a bad economy"
Now that "can do no wrong savior" Obama is in office it's, " High gas prices are good for the ecomomy"
I even heard a top Obama official descibe how Obama is saving lives with the High Gas Prices ....Oh yeah, this is because people can't afford to drive their automobiles.
Obama and his machine could sell ice to Eskimos.... Obama- the choice of the "Gimmeee for free" generation. I guess I should quit my job and get on the Liberal Express Free Ride. But then who would pay for all the freebees Obama is bribing America with so he can be re-elected? Shame that every self absorbed citizen wants NOW what their parents worked YEARS to get...
Vote for OBAMA, because if he can't get it, he'll steal it from me and other hard working Americans... You only have to give up your liberty, one Obama sales pitch at a time.

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Hay Zeus ()
Date: February 21, 2012 10:06AM

How come the Democrats are calling for Windfall profit tax on the oil companies again?

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Re: Obama leads all GOOPers
Posted by: Les ()
Date: February 21, 2012 10:53AM

This may actually be worse than the oil spike of 2008. Remember the big layoffs had yet to occur since Lehman was still in business. Retirees were making more because of higher interest rates.

The rise of gas prices is now making the national news almost nightly. The pump price has been catching up to spot crude oil. It had been selling at a negative margin during the winter. As a result, refineries have had to shut down and the obvious effect shows up at the pump.

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