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Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
sickpuppy
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Date: February 14, 2012 03:19PM
It’s a question that has dogged him for years. Why did Mitt Romney once strap the family dog in its carrier to the roof of the car and then set off on a summer vacation to Canada?
The story of the family pet, Seamus, appeared in a 2007 Boston Globe piece.
“As the oldest son, Tagg Romney commandeered the way-back of the wagon, keeping his eyes fixed out the rear window, where he glimpsed the first sign of trouble. ‘Dad!’ he yelled. ‘Gross!’ A brown liquid was dripping down the back window, payback from an Irish setter who’d been riding on the roof in the wind for hours.
As the rest of the boys joined in the howls of disgust, Romney coolly pulled off the highway and into a service station. There, he borrowed a hose, washed down Seamus and the car, then hopped back onto the highway. It was a tiny preview of a trait he would grow famous for in business: emotion-free crisis management.”
New York Times columnist Gail Collins has famously skewered Mr. Romney for the episode, so much so that some might call it an obsession.
In an interview ranging from the candidate’s shift to a general election tone to the causes of the financial crisis, The Wall Street Journal asked Mr. Romney to give his side of the Seamus story.
“Uh…,” Mr. Romney said, clearly at a loss for words. “Love my dog.”
“That’s all I’ve got for ya,” he added.
But asked to rebut Ms. Collins’ insinuations that he had been mean to his dog, Mr. Romney said, “Oh please. I’ve had a lot of dogs and love them and care for them very deeply.”
At which point his aide said: “We’ve gotta get running.”
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/12/21/romney-and-seamus-the-dog/
The story of the family pet, Seamus, appeared in a 2007 Boston Globe piece.
“As the oldest son, Tagg Romney commandeered the way-back of the wagon, keeping his eyes fixed out the rear window, where he glimpsed the first sign of trouble. ‘Dad!’ he yelled. ‘Gross!’ A brown liquid was dripping down the back window, payback from an Irish setter who’d been riding on the roof in the wind for hours.
As the rest of the boys joined in the howls of disgust, Romney coolly pulled off the highway and into a service station. There, he borrowed a hose, washed down Seamus and the car, then hopped back onto the highway. It was a tiny preview of a trait he would grow famous for in business: emotion-free crisis management.”
New York Times columnist Gail Collins has famously skewered Mr. Romney for the episode, so much so that some might call it an obsession.
In an interview ranging from the candidate’s shift to a general election tone to the causes of the financial crisis, The Wall Street Journal asked Mr. Romney to give his side of the Seamus story.
“Uh…,” Mr. Romney said, clearly at a loss for words. “Love my dog.”
“That’s all I’ve got for ya,” he added.
But asked to rebut Ms. Collins’ insinuations that he had been mean to his dog, Mr. Romney said, “Oh please. I’ve had a lot of dogs and love them and care for them very deeply.”
At which point his aide said: “We’ve gotta get running.”
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/12/21/romney-and-seamus-the-dog/
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: February 14, 2012 03:27PM
I think the guy is a sociopath who has no compassion for anyone or anything.
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Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
Numbers
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Date: February 14, 2012 03:51PM
Romney was quoted saying "I was in the kitchen, Seamus my old hound was outside".
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
Warhawk
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Date: February 14, 2012 04:03PM
I only approve of this pet transfer method for cats.
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Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
and?
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Date: February 14, 2012 04:19PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I think the guy is a sociopath who has no
> compassion for anyone or anything.
Clinton was a sociopath and was a great President. Do you have a point?
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> I think the guy is a sociopath who has no
> compassion for anyone or anything.
Clinton was a sociopath and was a great President. Do you have a point?
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
Ding an sich
()
Date: February 14, 2012 04:22PM
Warhawk Wrote:
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> I only approve of this pet transfer method for
> cats.
Why would you suggest sticking the cleaner of the two animals outside?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2012 04:22PM by Ding an sich.
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> I only approve of this pet transfer method for
> cats.
Why would you suggest sticking the cleaner of the two animals outside?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2012 04:22PM by Ding an sich.
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
Warhawk
()
Date: February 14, 2012 04:31PM
Ding an sich Wrote:
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> Warhawk Wrote:
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> -----
> > I only approve of this pet transfer method for
> > cats.
>
>
> Why would you suggest sticking the cleaner of the
> two animals outside?
Because cats suck. Sorry, I'm a dog person.
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> Warhawk Wrote:
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> > I only approve of this pet transfer method for
> > cats.
>
>
> Why would you suggest sticking the cleaner of the
> two animals outside?
Because cats suck. Sorry, I'm a dog person.
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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
Ding an sich
()
Date: February 14, 2012 04:39PM
Warhawk Wrote:
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> Ding an sich Wrote:
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> > Warhawk Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I only approve of this pet transfer method
> for
> > > cats.
> >
> >
> > Why would you suggest sticking the cleaner of
> the
> > two animals outside?
>
>
> Because cats suck. Sorry, I'm a dog person.
See, in that case you shouldn't purchase a cat. Much simpler solution.
Why would you buy an animal you dislike only to torment it?
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> Ding an sich Wrote:
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> > Warhawk Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > I only approve of this pet transfer method
> for
> > > cats.
> >
> >
> > Why would you suggest sticking the cleaner of
> the
> > two animals outside?
>
>
> Because cats suck. Sorry, I'm a dog person.
See, in that case you shouldn't purchase a cat. Much simpler solution.
Why would you buy an animal you dislike only to torment it?
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
Ding an sich
()
Date: February 14, 2012 04:40PM
Also, dogs suck/are retarded.
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: February 14, 2012 05:19PM
and? Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> -----
> > I think the guy is a sociopath who has no
> > compassion for anyone or anything.
>
>
> Clinton was a sociopath and was a great President.
> Do you have a point?
Clinton was a narcissist. A narcissist and sociopath are not the same thing.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think the guy is a sociopath who has no
> > compassion for anyone or anything.
>
>
> Clinton was a sociopath and was a great President.
> Do you have a point?
Clinton was a narcissist. A narcissist and sociopath are not the same thing.
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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
and?
()
Date: February 14, 2012 05:43PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> and? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I think the guy is a sociopath who has no
> > > compassion for anyone or anything.
> >
> >
> > Clinton was a sociopath and was a great
> President.
> > Do you have a point?
>
>
> Clinton was a narcissist. A narcissist and
> sociopath are not the same thing.
Clinton had a healthy disregard for the rights of others. He masked it well and even had the whole "I feel your pain" mantra. Underneath all of that, he could have given a rat's ass about anyone other than himself. His lifelong pattern of behavior exemplifies sociopathy. Narcissism is just one condition that commonly coexists with sociopathy.
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> and? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I think the guy is a sociopath who has no
> > > compassion for anyone or anything.
> >
> >
> > Clinton was a sociopath and was a great
> President.
> > Do you have a point?
>
>
> Clinton was a narcissist. A narcissist and
> sociopath are not the same thing.
Clinton had a healthy disregard for the rights of others. He masked it well and even had the whole "I feel your pain" mantra. Underneath all of that, he could have given a rat's ass about anyone other than himself. His lifelong pattern of behavior exemplifies sociopathy. Narcissism is just one condition that commonly coexists with sociopathy.
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: February 14, 2012 10:18PM
and? Wrote:
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> > Clinton was a narcissist. A narcissist and
> > sociopath are not the same thing.
>
>
> Clinton had a healthy disregard for the rights of
> others. He masked it well and even had the whole
> "I feel your pain" mantra. Underneath all of
> that, he could have given a rat's ass about anyone
> other than himself. His lifelong pattern of
> behavior exemplifies sociopathy. Narcissism is
> just one condition that commonly coexists with
> sociopathy.
Sociopaths torture animals and go after those who are weaker or less able to fight back. I never really saw that from Clinton. I've seen that from Romney.
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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
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> > Clinton was a narcissist. A narcissist and
> > sociopath are not the same thing.
>
>
> Clinton had a healthy disregard for the rights of
> others. He masked it well and even had the whole
> "I feel your pain" mantra. Underneath all of
> that, he could have given a rat's ass about anyone
> other than himself. His lifelong pattern of
> behavior exemplifies sociopathy. Narcissism is
> just one condition that commonly coexists with
> sociopathy.
Sociopaths torture animals and go after those who are weaker or less able to fight back. I never really saw that from Clinton. I've seen that from Romney.
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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
graymoose1
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Date: February 14, 2012 10:54PM
If I would have seen it I would have kicked his ass,, strapped him to the roof of the car and drive thru a car wash several times
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Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
bs
()
Date: February 14, 2012 10:57PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Sociopaths torture animals and go after those who
> are weaker or less able to fight back. I never
> really saw that from Clinton. I've seen that from
> Romney.
1. bullshit. 2. If Romney was a Dem you would love him.
Youre only saying that to continue youre desperate attacks
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> Sociopaths torture animals and go after those who
> are weaker or less able to fight back. I never
> really saw that from Clinton. I've seen that from
> Romney.
1. bullshit. 2. If Romney was a Dem you would love him.
Youre only saying that to continue youre desperate attacks
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
tomahawk
()
Date: February 15, 2012 12:17AM
God you guys are slow, I'd have thought someone would've dug this up before me, but as the resident prog rock fan I guess it's up to me to find ancient Pink Floyd references....
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: February 15, 2012 08:06AM
Tomahawk,
See 3rd post down. I was wondering when YOU would get it.
See 3rd post down. I was wondering when YOU would get it.
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: February 15, 2012 08:24AM
The song was the first thing i thought of when i saw the thread title and I actually listened to Meddle on my way home yesterday. that's one of the better Floyd albums, but I never really liked the song Seamus and usually skip over it. it seems kinda out of place on that album.
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
and?
()
Date: February 15, 2012 09:21AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> and? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > > Clinton was a narcissist. A narcissist and
> > > sociopath are not the same thing.
> >
> >
> > Clinton had a healthy disregard for the rights
> of
> > others. He masked it well and even had the
> whole
> > "I feel your pain" mantra. Underneath all of
> > that, he could have given a rat's ass about
> anyone
> > other than himself. His lifelong pattern of
> > behavior exemplifies sociopathy. Narcissism is
> > just one condition that commonly coexists with
> > sociopathy.
>
>
> Sociopaths torture animals
The link between socipathy and animal cruelty is questionable. If you are cruel to animals, it doesn't mean you are a sociopath and if you are a sociopath, it doesn't mean that you will definitely be cruel to animals.
> and go after those who
> are weaker or less able to fight back.
Like interns, subordinates, an others? Sociopaths are also very deceptive, repeatedly lie, never show remorse, and never have guilt. I think we can agree that Clinton demonstrated all of these.
> I never
> really saw that from Clinton. I've seen that from
> Romney.
I think you need to study up on sociopathy.
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> and? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > > Clinton was a narcissist. A narcissist and
> > > sociopath are not the same thing.
> >
> >
> > Clinton had a healthy disregard for the rights
> of
> > others. He masked it well and even had the
> whole
> > "I feel your pain" mantra. Underneath all of
> > that, he could have given a rat's ass about
> anyone
> > other than himself. His lifelong pattern of
> > behavior exemplifies sociopathy. Narcissism is
> > just one condition that commonly coexists with
> > sociopathy.
>
>
> Sociopaths torture animals
The link between socipathy and animal cruelty is questionable. If you are cruel to animals, it doesn't mean you are a sociopath and if you are a sociopath, it doesn't mean that you will definitely be cruel to animals.
> and go after those who
> are weaker or less able to fight back.
Like interns, subordinates, an others? Sociopaths are also very deceptive, repeatedly lie, never show remorse, and never have guilt. I think we can agree that Clinton demonstrated all of these.
> I never
> really saw that from Clinton. I've seen that from
> Romney.
I think you need to study up on sociopathy.
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
tomahawk
()
Date: February 15, 2012 02:05PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> Tomahawk,
> See 3rd post down. I was wondering when YOU would
> get it.
Oops, looks like I missed it!
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> Tomahawk,
> See 3rd post down. I was wondering when YOU would
> get it.
Oops, looks like I missed it!
Re: Romney and Seamus the Dog
Posted by:
tomahawk
()
Date: February 15, 2012 02:07PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> The song was the first thing i thought of when i
> saw the thread title and I actually listened to
> Meddle on my way home yesterday. that's one of
> the better Floyd albums, but I never really liked
> the song Seamus and usually skip over it. it seems
> kinda out of place on that album.
I just listened to it the other day, too, and I think the same thing about that song. But I always thought the howling and whining sound of the dog was some kind of special electronic effect that Gilmoure and Waters did, which fits in with the trippy noises thing. A lot of the stuff on those pre-Dark Side albums is just plain wierd.
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> The song was the first thing i thought of when i
> saw the thread title and I actually listened to
> Meddle on my way home yesterday. that's one of
> the better Floyd albums, but I never really liked
> the song Seamus and usually skip over it. it seems
> kinda out of place on that album.
I just listened to it the other day, too, and I think the same thing about that song. But I always thought the howling and whining sound of the dog was some kind of special electronic effect that Gilmoure and Waters did, which fits in with the trippy noises thing. A lot of the stuff on those pre-Dark Side albums is just plain wierd.