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Sonic
Posted by:
Beaver muncher
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Date: January 05, 2012 10:33PM
Need to eat at Sonic .... Who's had food there? Any good? Where the hell is Sonic?
Re: Sonic
Posted by:
Beaver muncher
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Date: January 05, 2012 11:08PM
nobody's been to SONIC? F u guys
Re: Sonic
Posted by:
Stinkfist
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Date: January 06, 2012 01:09AM
Don't understand why this shithole has so much admiration. It's not good.
Re: Sonic
Posted by:
meena
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Date: January 06, 2012 03:28AM
Stinkfist Wrote:
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> Don't understand why this shithole has so much
> admiration. It's not good.
so you're not racist?
yay.
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"im not dead yet"
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> Don't understand why this shithole has so much
> admiration. It's not good.
so you're not racist?
yay.
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"im not dead yet"
Re: Sonic
Posted by:
chicago dog
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Date: January 06, 2012 04:45AM
Stinkfist Wrote:
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> Don't understand why this shithole has so much
> admiration. It's not good.
The Chicago dog is pretty good. Fatties love sonic because you never have to get out of your car, they bring you everything and will make multiple trips to your car even if you just want more napkins.
There are two of them in Fredricksburg.
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> Don't understand why this shithole has so much
> admiration. It's not good.
The Chicago dog is pretty good. Fatties love sonic because you never have to get out of your car, they bring you everything and will make multiple trips to your car even if you just want more napkins.
There are two of them in Fredricksburg.
Re: Sonic
Posted by:
bad words are good
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Date: January 06, 2012 07:48AM
sonic shit fuck dogs are good man
Re: Sonic
Posted by:
Southeat.Jerome
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Date: January 06, 2012 09:02AM
Why hasn't this chain made it further north than Fredericksburg? Is there business model requiring a large lot just not conducive to the NOVA real estate market?
Re: Sonic
Posted by:
Faggy Bar Mitzvah
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Date: January 06, 2012 09:21AM
Sonic is a subpar fast food joint. Kind of like a Rally's (do they even exist anymore?) They are set up like an old 50's ff restuarant and some of the locations even force the waitresses to parade around on rollerskates.
Re: Sonic
Posted by:
Sound Investor
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Date: January 06, 2012 09:46AM
Southeat.Jerome Wrote:
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> Why hasn't this chain made it further north than
> Fredericksburg? Is there business model requiring
> a large lot just not conducive to the NOVA real
> estate market?
This is quite possible. According to their Web site, you need 3/4 of an acre (32670 square feet) to operate a traditional Sonic with 16 to 24 stalls. I would expect that finding 3/4 of an acre that's suitable, in a good location, and is appropriately zoned anywhere in Northern Virginia would be a time-consuming and expensive prospect in and of itself.
Some other strikes against Sonic are that you must agree to operate two locations, which, following the power rule of difficulty, quadruples the amount of effort involved. You must also have a personal net worth of $1M and have $1M in liquid assets, and Sonic does not offer any kind of financing to open one of their franchises; you're on your own to find the money.
Lastly, the expected startup costs for a Sonic are between $710K and $3M, and given the area, I would expect your costs will be in the higher rather than lower portion of that range. That means likely $5-6 million dollars invested before you sell one single hamburger.
Most likely, anyone looking to get into the fast-food restaurant business in Northern Virginia looks at these numbers and decides that their dollars are better invested elsewhere, say in buying an existing McDonald's franchise (about $1.5 - $2M in this area, if I remember correctly).
The costs for a non-traditional Sonic franchise (located in a mall, for example), are much less onerous, and I suspect we'll see some of those open up in this area before we see a traditional Sonic.
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> Why hasn't this chain made it further north than
> Fredericksburg? Is there business model requiring
> a large lot just not conducive to the NOVA real
> estate market?
This is quite possible. According to their Web site, you need 3/4 of an acre (32670 square feet) to operate a traditional Sonic with 16 to 24 stalls. I would expect that finding 3/4 of an acre that's suitable, in a good location, and is appropriately zoned anywhere in Northern Virginia would be a time-consuming and expensive prospect in and of itself.
Some other strikes against Sonic are that you must agree to operate two locations, which, following the power rule of difficulty, quadruples the amount of effort involved. You must also have a personal net worth of $1M and have $1M in liquid assets, and Sonic does not offer any kind of financing to open one of their franchises; you're on your own to find the money.
Lastly, the expected startup costs for a Sonic are between $710K and $3M, and given the area, I would expect your costs will be in the higher rather than lower portion of that range. That means likely $5-6 million dollars invested before you sell one single hamburger.
Most likely, anyone looking to get into the fast-food restaurant business in Northern Virginia looks at these numbers and decides that their dollars are better invested elsewhere, say in buying an existing McDonald's franchise (about $1.5 - $2M in this area, if I remember correctly).
The costs for a non-traditional Sonic franchise (located in a mall, for example), are much less onerous, and I suspect we'll see some of those open up in this area before we see a traditional Sonic.
Re: Sonic
Posted by:
fat guy
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Date: January 15, 2012 05:34PM
chicago dog Wrote:
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> Stinkfist Wrote:
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> > Don't understand why this shithole has so much
> > admiration. It's not good.
>
>
> The Chicago dog is pretty good. Fatties love sonic
> because you never have to get out of your car,
> they bring you everything and will make multiple
> trips to your car even if you just want more
> napkins.
> There are two of them in Fredricksburg.
They will come to your car to give you a drink refill. You can eat food, get a couple refills and then order a dessert later. Never get out of your vehicle unless you gota use the can. After a footlong dog and a large order of chilli-cheese onion rings there is a good chance you gonna need acess to the handicap stall. They have kickass milkshakes but you dont get free refills on those.
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> Stinkfist Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Don't understand why this shithole has so much
> > admiration. It's not good.
>
>
> The Chicago dog is pretty good. Fatties love sonic
> because you never have to get out of your car,
> they bring you everything and will make multiple
> trips to your car even if you just want more
> napkins.
> There are two of them in Fredricksburg.
They will come to your car to give you a drink refill. You can eat food, get a couple refills and then order a dessert later. Never get out of your vehicle unless you gota use the can. After a footlong dog and a large order of chilli-cheese onion rings there is a good chance you gonna need acess to the handicap stall. They have kickass milkshakes but you dont get free refills on those.
Re: Sonic
Posted by:
a non moron
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Date: January 15, 2012 08:18PM
Sonic fucking sucks. Portions are incredibly small and it tastes horrible.