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Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
obamawin?
()
Date: October 20, 2011 07:52AM
You have to admit he is tacking out the trash lately.
"Moamer Kadhafi was captured as his hometown of Sirte was falling on Thursday, a National Transitional Council commander said, adding that the ousted Libyan strongman was badly wounded.
"He has been captured. He is badly wounded, but he is still breathing," Mohamed Leith told AFP, adding that he had seen Kadhafi himself and that he was wearing a kaki uniform and a turban."
"Moamer Kadhafi was captured as his hometown of Sirte was falling on Thursday, a National Transitional Council commander said, adding that the ousted Libyan strongman was badly wounded.
"He has been captured. He is badly wounded, but he is still breathing," Mohamed Leith told AFP, adding that he had seen Kadhafi himself and that he was wearing a kaki uniform and a turban."
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Gonads & Strife
()
Date: October 20, 2011 08:00AM
Not an Obama victory. A victory for the people of Libya.
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
ya lala inshallah
()
Date: October 20, 2011 08:03AM
No Libya, can conform to the United State of Libya, Inshallah!
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Kadhafi dead
()
Date: October 20, 2011 08:10AM
reports now say Kadhafi dead.
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 20, 2011 09:36AM
Yep. Obama got him despite criticisms from the GOP. And he did it a hell of a lot more cost-effectively than Bush did with Saddam.
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Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Real or Fake?
()
Date: October 20, 2011 09:48AM
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Gonads & Strife
()
Date: October 20, 2011 10:09AM
Real or Fake? Wrote:
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> Real or Fake?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTM7KxduPMo
>
>
See? Releasing the image of a dead guy isn't so bad. We want Osama's pics (or GTFO)!
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> Real or Fake?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTM7KxduPMo
>
>
See? Releasing the image of a dead guy isn't so bad. We want Osama's pics (or GTFO)!
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Yucky24.
()
Date: October 20, 2011 11:29AM
I fail to see how a bunch of islamofascists taking over Libya is a victory.
I'm all for killing Gadaffi.
But we need to stop kidding ourselves in thinking that the middle east is full of "liberal" a-rab muslime hipsters.
Our real goal should be destroying pisslam and marginalizing muslime countries until they've been thoroughly secularized.
Let me try make an anology you ignorant leftist bigots can understand.
You hate Bush and Christians, yes?
Well imagine if we overthrew him and put Pat Robertson on meth in power.
That's basically what we're doing by supporting the "arab spring", but worse.
Our tactics and our understanding of the REAL problems in the "muslime world" are totally wrong.
I'm all for killing Gadaffi.
But we need to stop kidding ourselves in thinking that the middle east is full of "liberal" a-rab muslime hipsters.
Our real goal should be destroying pisslam and marginalizing muslime countries until they've been thoroughly secularized.
Let me try make an anology you ignorant leftist bigots can understand.
You hate Bush and Christians, yes?
Well imagine if we overthrew him and put Pat Robertson on meth in power.
That's basically what we're doing by supporting the "arab spring", but worse.
Our tactics and our understanding of the REAL problems in the "muslime world" are totally wrong.
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: October 20, 2011 11:42AM
Again, this has nothing to do with Obama other than as a peripheral comment. As the naysayers from Iraq would be predicting, the rubble hasn't even settled yet, and the odds aren't looking good for a secular government taking over in that area. Not to mention to 20000 portable missile launchers that have gone missing (and are presumed to be in Egypt/Gaza by now.
Yeah, the WIN is not really measurable here.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Yeah, the WIN is not really measurable here.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 20, 2011 11:50AM
It's a victory for everyone.
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: October 20, 2011 11:51AM
More Complete Wrote:
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> It's a victory for everyone.
Khadafi would disagree.
More importantly, what comes after?
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
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> It's a victory for everyone.
Khadafi would disagree.
More importantly, what comes after?
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Nobel Peace Prize
()
Date: October 20, 2011 11:54AM
Does Obama get another peace prize?
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
justsayin
()
Date: October 20, 2011 12:23PM
Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Again, this has nothing to do with Obama other
> than as a peripheral comment.
Yes, providing US military leadership of the original airstrikes that beat legacy government forces back so the rebellion could fortify positions wasn't Obama's doing... he is commander-in-chief but that must have been someone else ordering it!!
Providing followup military intelligence and logistical info to those nations that continued the air campaign means nothing to the result.
Hillary Clinton had no White House authority to meet the resistance leaders, she just did that because she was in the area and "off the clock", right?
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> Again, this has nothing to do with Obama other
> than as a peripheral comment.
Yes, providing US military leadership of the original airstrikes that beat legacy government forces back so the rebellion could fortify positions wasn't Obama's doing... he is commander-in-chief but that must have been someone else ordering it!!
Providing followup military intelligence and logistical info to those nations that continued the air campaign means nothing to the result.
Hillary Clinton had no White House authority to meet the resistance leaders, she just did that because she was in the area and "off the clock", right?
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
mcsmack
()
Date: October 20, 2011 12:40PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Yep. Obama got him despite criticisms from the
> GOP. And he did it a hell of a lot more
> cost-effectively than Bush did with Saddam.
When you're right, you're right. Nit picking Obama's foreign policy when he is allowing the military to clip despots isn't smart.
I only hope he doesn't run out of tin horns to dispose of before next October. He may be a year off!
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> Yep. Obama got him despite criticisms from the
> GOP. And he did it a hell of a lot more
> cost-effectively than Bush did with Saddam.
When you're right, you're right. Nit picking Obama's foreign policy when he is allowing the military to clip despots isn't smart.
I only hope he doesn't run out of tin horns to dispose of before next October. He may be a year off!
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: October 20, 2011 12:44PM
justsayin Wrote:
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>
> positions wasn't Obama's doing... he is
> commander-in-chief but that must have been someone else ordering it!!
+1
Lately Obama has been spending all his time with Bill Ayers, organizing drum circles and gang-rapes at Zucotti Park so a bunch of anti-Semitic hippies can get free smartphones and do-nothing union jobs. He doesn't have time for that Libya nonsense.
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>
> positions wasn't Obama's doing... he is
> commander-in-chief but that must have been someone else ordering it!!
+1
Lately Obama has been spending all his time with Bill Ayers, organizing drum circles and gang-rapes at Zucotti Park so a bunch of anti-Semitic hippies can get free smartphones and do-nothing union jobs. He doesn't have time for that Libya nonsense.
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
4 more years
()
Date: October 20, 2011 12:45PM
mcsmack Wrote:
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> When you're right, you're right. Nit picking
> Obama's foreign policy when he is allowing the
> military to clip despots isn't smart.
>
> I only hope he doesn't run out of tin horns to
> dispose of before next October. He may be a year
> off!
But...but...but...if he's doing fine with foreign policy and the Economy is improving and the mood of the country is going UP not down...uh...shouldn't he be re-elected?
-------------------------------------------------------
> When you're right, you're right. Nit picking
> Obama's foreign policy when he is allowing the
> military to clip despots isn't smart.
>
> I only hope he doesn't run out of tin horns to
> dispose of before next October. He may be a year
> off!
But...but...but...if he's doing fine with foreign policy and the Economy is improving and the mood of the country is going UP not down...uh...shouldn't he be re-elected?
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Pvt. Ryan
()
Date: October 20, 2011 12:50PM
First, Bin-Laden and now Kahdafi...
Barry does it again!
I love the smell of re-election in the morning!
Allahu ackbar, bitches! Allahu ackbar!
Barry does it again!
I love the smell of re-election in the morning!
Allahu ackbar, bitches! Allahu ackbar!
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
WOWBama
()
Date: October 20, 2011 01:01PM
Pvt. Ryan Wrote:
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> First, Bin-Laden and now Kahdafi...
>
> Barry does it again!
>
> I love the smell of re-election in the morning!
>
> Allahu ackbar, bitches! Allahu ackbar!
The nice part is that the US can claim NATO took out Gahdafi, not the US.
Gahdafi is dead! Bitches!
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> First, Bin-Laden and now Kahdafi...
>
> Barry does it again!
>
> I love the smell of re-election in the morning!
>
> Allahu ackbar, bitches! Allahu ackbar!
The nice part is that the US can claim NATO took out Gahdafi, not the US.
Gahdafi is dead! Bitches!
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
WhatDrugYouOn?
()
Date: October 20, 2011 02:46PM
4 more years Wrote:
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> But...but...but...if he's doing fine with foreign
> policy and the Economy is improving and the mood
> of the country is going UP not
> down...uh...shouldn't he be re-elected?
Allowing the military to do their job (while a good decision) is hardly representative of his foreign policy.
Economy is improving? Really?
The mood of the country is going up? I guess that's why we have the Occupy Wall Street movement now.
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> But...but...but...if he's doing fine with foreign
> policy and the Economy is improving and the mood
> of the country is going UP not
> down...uh...shouldn't he be re-elected?
Allowing the military to do their job (while a good decision) is hardly representative of his foreign policy.
Economy is improving? Really?
The mood of the country is going up? I guess that's why we have the Occupy Wall Street movement now.
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
No, no...what drug are YOU on?
()
Date: October 20, 2011 03:01PM
WhatDrugYouOn? Wrote:
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> Allowing the military to do his job (while a good decision) is hardly representative of his foreign policy.
You're the opposition...you're just NEVER going to be happy, huh? Obama does nothing about Kadhafi and you say he's weak on terrorism...Obama takes Kadhafi out and you say it's hardly representative of his foreign policy.
Kadhafi was never a guy the US could sit down with and have a good old fashioned session of armchair diplomacy.
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> Allowing the military to do his job (while a good decision) is hardly representative of his foreign policy.
You're the opposition...you're just NEVER going to be happy, huh? Obama does nothing about Kadhafi and you say he's weak on terrorism...Obama takes Kadhafi out and you say it's hardly representative of his foreign policy.
Kadhafi was never a guy the US could sit down with and have a good old fashioned session of armchair diplomacy.
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Posted by:
Alias
()
Date: October 20, 2011 03:15PM
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/2012 01:45PM by Alias.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/2012 01:45PM by Alias.
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
WhatDrugYouOn?
()
Date: October 20, 2011 04:48PM
No, no...what drug are YOU on? Wrote:
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>
> You're the opposition...you're just NEVER going to
> be happy, huh? Obama does nothing about Kadhafi
> and you say he's weak on terrorism...Obama takes
> Kadhafi out and you say it's hardly representative
> of his foreign policy.
>
No, Obama has had some good events happen on his watch, i.e. Osama and now Kadhafi, and he deserves at least some of the credit for those. The ability and willingness to assist in hunting and eliminating said 2 figures is NOT a function of foreign policy, however.
Foreign policy is how he deals with foreign nations at the government level, not exterminating individual lunatics. With respect to Pakistan and Israel, for example, his foreign policy sucks.
And yes, with respect to Obama, I'm glad to be part of the "opposition".
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>
> You're the opposition...you're just NEVER going to
> be happy, huh? Obama does nothing about Kadhafi
> and you say he's weak on terrorism...Obama takes
> Kadhafi out and you say it's hardly representative
> of his foreign policy.
>
No, Obama has had some good events happen on his watch, i.e. Osama and now Kadhafi, and he deserves at least some of the credit for those. The ability and willingness to assist in hunting and eliminating said 2 figures is NOT a function of foreign policy, however.
Foreign policy is how he deals with foreign nations at the government level, not exterminating individual lunatics. With respect to Pakistan and Israel, for example, his foreign policy sucks.
And yes, with respect to Obama, I'm glad to be part of the "opposition".
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Yucky24.
()
Date: October 20, 2011 05:26PM
There's simply nothing to celebrate in Libya despite the overthrow of Gadaffi.
You politically correct, pisslam apologizing, diversity loving, libtards refuse to admit that not only are mid east leaders complete garbage, but so are the a-rab muslimes they govern over in general.
Blaming the leaders of muslime countries for all their problems is just a convenient way to shift the blame from the retard populace to the heads of state.
These leaders didn't come to power out of nowhere.
They represent the primitive evil savages they rule over.
If anything, they're MORE educated, enlightened, intelligent and compassionate and less corrupt and evil as the hordes of a-rab muslimes they're forced to govern with an iron fist in order to maintain some basic form of stability.
Most a-rab muslimes in general are failures, not just their leaders.
And the enemy of our enemy is not our friend.
These Libyan "rebels" are hardcore islamofascists.
They're even WORSE than Gadaffi.
It's a classic red on red conflict.
We shouldn't be supporting either side besides supporting them both wiping each other out.
When dealing with shit skinned 3rd world mongoloid slaves like a-rab muslimes, there often isn't a good solution.
It's just fail, fail, fail any path you take.
We should just quarantine a-rab muslimes.
Don't let them immigrate here or try to invade their non-muslime "infidel" neighbors.
Or we should show them the same level of aggression and hatred that they show us and invade, colonize and secularize them.
You politically correct, pisslam apologizing, diversity loving, libtards refuse to admit that not only are mid east leaders complete garbage, but so are the a-rab muslimes they govern over in general.
Blaming the leaders of muslime countries for all their problems is just a convenient way to shift the blame from the retard populace to the heads of state.
These leaders didn't come to power out of nowhere.
They represent the primitive evil savages they rule over.
If anything, they're MORE educated, enlightened, intelligent and compassionate and less corrupt and evil as the hordes of a-rab muslimes they're forced to govern with an iron fist in order to maintain some basic form of stability.
Most a-rab muslimes in general are failures, not just their leaders.
And the enemy of our enemy is not our friend.
These Libyan "rebels" are hardcore islamofascists.
They're even WORSE than Gadaffi.
It's a classic red on red conflict.
We shouldn't be supporting either side besides supporting them both wiping each other out.
When dealing with shit skinned 3rd world mongoloid slaves like a-rab muslimes, there often isn't a good solution.
It's just fail, fail, fail any path you take.
We should just quarantine a-rab muslimes.
Don't let them immigrate here or try to invade their non-muslime "infidel" neighbors.
Or we should show them the same level of aggression and hatred that they show us and invade, colonize and secularize them.
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Yucky24.
()
Date: October 20, 2011 05:34PM
Yes, I give this to Obama, he deserves it.
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
justsayin
()
Date: October 20, 2011 10:12PM
The Libyan people paid the blood for it and they deserve all credit. My point is that they had help and the help was ordered by Obama as chief of the US military. This wasn't a clear US move like bin Laden's killing and Obama should not take credit for the result in Libya, he should rightly take credit for the USA supporting those that won.
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Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
He's Delusional
()
Date: October 21, 2011 03:01AM
WhatDrugYouOn? Wrote:
>
> No, Obama has had some good events happen on his
> watch, i.e. Osama and now Kadhafi, and he deserves
> at least some of the credit for those. The
> ability and willingness to assist in hunting and
> eliminating said 2 figures is NOT a function of
> foreign policy, however.
>
> Foreign policy is how he deals with foreign
> nations at the government level, not exterminating
> individual lunatics. With respect to Pakistan and
> Israel, for example, his foreign policy sucks.
>
> And yes, with respect to Obama, I'm glad to be
> part of the "opposition".
There's such an irony in your statement. First, President Obama was the one that wanted to get the troops out of Iraq - which I'm assuming also meant Afghanistan, too. However, Osama Bin Laden was taken out.
Then, we have Libya. Who authorized president Obama to send our troops into Libya? Now, that their dictator / leader / ex-leader is now dead, Obama should stand up and take appropriate credit? Again, when we were not supposed to be in Libya. Oh, and to remind you, Libya does have weapons of mass destruction (WMD), yet President Bush could never live it down from the Liberals when WMD were not found. Who's going to locate those Stinger missiles that are already on the black market and apparently being released by someone from Libya? How long until a Stinger is used to take out one or two commercial passenger airplanes? How long?
>
> No, Obama has had some good events happen on his
> watch, i.e. Osama and now Kadhafi, and he deserves
> at least some of the credit for those. The
> ability and willingness to assist in hunting and
> eliminating said 2 figures is NOT a function of
> foreign policy, however.
>
> Foreign policy is how he deals with foreign
> nations at the government level, not exterminating
> individual lunatics. With respect to Pakistan and
> Israel, for example, his foreign policy sucks.
>
> And yes, with respect to Obama, I'm glad to be
> part of the "opposition".
There's such an irony in your statement. First, President Obama was the one that wanted to get the troops out of Iraq - which I'm assuming also meant Afghanistan, too. However, Osama Bin Laden was taken out.
Then, we have Libya. Who authorized president Obama to send our troops into Libya? Now, that their dictator / leader / ex-leader is now dead, Obama should stand up and take appropriate credit? Again, when we were not supposed to be in Libya. Oh, and to remind you, Libya does have weapons of mass destruction (WMD), yet President Bush could never live it down from the Liberals when WMD were not found. Who's going to locate those Stinger missiles that are already on the black market and apparently being released by someone from Libya? How long until a Stinger is used to take out one or two commercial passenger airplanes? How long?
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Wrong
()
Date: October 21, 2011 07:04AM
He's Delusional Wrote:
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>
> Then, we have Libya. Who authorized president
> Obama to send our troops into Libya? Now, that
> their dictator / leader / ex-leader is now dead,
> Obama should stand up and take appropriate credit?
> Again, when we were not supposed to be in Libya.
> Oh, and to remind you, Libya does have weapons of
> mass destruction (WMD)
Stinger missile is not a WMD.
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>
> Then, we have Libya. Who authorized president
> Obama to send our troops into Libya? Now, that
> their dictator / leader / ex-leader is now dead,
> Obama should stand up and take appropriate credit?
> Again, when we were not supposed to be in Libya.
> Oh, and to remind you, Libya does have weapons of
> mass destruction (WMD)
Stinger missile is not a WMD.
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: October 21, 2011 11:26AM
justsayin Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Again, this has nothing to do with Obama other
> > than as a peripheral comment.
>
>
> Yes, providing US military leadership of the
> original airstrikes that beat legacy government
> forces back so the rebellion could fortify
> positions wasn't Obama's doing... he is
> commander-in-chief but that must have been someone
> else ordering it!!
>
> Providing followup military intelligence and
> logistical info to those nations that continued
> the air campaign means nothing to the result.
>
> Hillary Clinton had no White House authority to
> meet the resistance leaders, she just did that
> because she was in the area and "off the clock",
> right?
Sorry, the President has assured us that this was NOT a US military operation. NATO provided the impetus, materials and direction to get this done.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Again, this has nothing to do with Obama other
> > than as a peripheral comment.
>
>
> Yes, providing US military leadership of the
> original airstrikes that beat legacy government
> forces back so the rebellion could fortify
> positions wasn't Obama's doing... he is
> commander-in-chief but that must have been someone
> else ordering it!!
>
> Providing followup military intelligence and
> logistical info to those nations that continued
> the air campaign means nothing to the result.
>
> Hillary Clinton had no White House authority to
> meet the resistance leaders, she just did that
> because she was in the area and "off the clock",
> right?
Sorry, the President has assured us that this was NOT a US military operation. NATO provided the impetus, materials and direction to get this done.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: October 21, 2011 11:27AM
4 more years Wrote:
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> mcsmack Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When you're right, you're right. Nit picking
> > Obama's foreign policy when he is allowing the
> > military to clip despots isn't smart.
> >
> > I only hope he doesn't run out of tin horns to
> > dispose of before next October. He may be a
> year
> > off!
>
> But...but...but...if he's doing fine with foreign
> policy and the Economy is improving and the mood
> of the country is going UP not
> down...uh...shouldn't he be re-elected?
The problem is, none of what you just said is true.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
-------------------------------------------------------
> mcsmack Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When you're right, you're right. Nit picking
> > Obama's foreign policy when he is allowing the
> > military to clip despots isn't smart.
> >
> > I only hope he doesn't run out of tin horns to
> > dispose of before next October. He may be a
> year
> > off!
>
> But...but...but...if he's doing fine with foreign
> policy and the Economy is improving and the mood
> of the country is going UP not
> down...uh...shouldn't he be re-elected?
The problem is, none of what you just said is true.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
Posted by:
WhatDrugYouOn?
()
Date: October 21, 2011 12:59PM
He's Delusional Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> There's such an irony in your statement. First,
> President Obama was the one that wanted to get the
> troops out of Iraq - which I'm assuming also meant
> Afghanistan, too. However, Osama Bin Laden was
> taken out.
>
> Then, we have Libya. Who authorized president
> Obama to send our troops into Libya? Now, that
> their dictator / leader / ex-leader is now dead,
> Obama should stand up and take appropriate credit?
> Again, when we were not supposed to be in Libya.
> Oh, and to remind you, Libya does have weapons of
> mass destruction (WMD), yet President Bush could
> never live it down from the Liberals when WMD were
> not found. Who's going to locate those Stinger
> missiles that are already on the black market and
> apparently being released by someone from Libya?
> How long until a Stinger is used to take out one
> or two commercial passenger airplanes? How long?
You're preaching to the choir. I just gave Obama the benefit of the doubt for argument's sake. I agree that Obama's role in either of those 2 kills was peripheral at best. My original point, however, is that even if Obama had pulled the trigger on both of them himeself, that has nothing to do with his foreign policy in general, which sucks.
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> There's such an irony in your statement. First,
> President Obama was the one that wanted to get the
> troops out of Iraq - which I'm assuming also meant
> Afghanistan, too. However, Osama Bin Laden was
> taken out.
>
> Then, we have Libya. Who authorized president
> Obama to send our troops into Libya? Now, that
> their dictator / leader / ex-leader is now dead,
> Obama should stand up and take appropriate credit?
> Again, when we were not supposed to be in Libya.
> Oh, and to remind you, Libya does have weapons of
> mass destruction (WMD), yet President Bush could
> never live it down from the Liberals when WMD were
> not found. Who's going to locate those Stinger
> missiles that are already on the black market and
> apparently being released by someone from Libya?
> How long until a Stinger is used to take out one
> or two commercial passenger airplanes? How long?
You're preaching to the choir. I just gave Obama the benefit of the doubt for argument's sake. I agree that Obama's role in either of those 2 kills was peripheral at best. My original point, however, is that even if Obama had pulled the trigger on both of them himeself, that has nothing to do with his foreign policy in general, which sucks.
Re: Kadhafi captured..Another Obama Victory?
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nice spin
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Date: October 21, 2011 05:34PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Yep. Obama got him despite criticisms from the
> GOP. And he did it a hell of a lot more
> cost-effectively than Bush did with Saddam.
What you forgot to mention was that if the presidents had been reversed the cost would have been the exact same. Saddam was 100s of times more powerful than Lybia and had much more formidable defenses and forces. The fact that they all surrendered so quickly which no one expected screwed us to an extent but also shows our military might. Trying to suggest that this had anything to do with Obama being a better military mind is absurd and just ignores all of the facts of the enemy that was being faced which was the most powerful in the region. Only Iran even comes close
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> Yep. Obama got him despite criticisms from the
> GOP. And he did it a hell of a lot more
> cost-effectively than Bush did with Saddam.
What you forgot to mention was that if the presidents had been reversed the cost would have been the exact same. Saddam was 100s of times more powerful than Lybia and had much more formidable defenses and forces. The fact that they all surrendered so quickly which no one expected screwed us to an extent but also shows our military might. Trying to suggest that this had anything to do with Obama being a better military mind is absurd and just ignores all of the facts of the enemy that was being faced which was the most powerful in the region. Only Iran even comes close