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VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Never Wore A Coatee
()
Date: October 06, 2011 12:56PM
The head of this lowlife Roanoke bill collection agency is a VMI graduate. Apparently VMI is not too happy. Their honor code prohibits lying, cheating and stealing…
http://atlanticcreditandfinancewatch.blogspot.com/2011/10/atlantic-credit-and-finance-revealing.html
It is not such good news for the Woolwines' cousin, "lawyer" John P. Frye either.
http://atlanticcreditandfinancewatch.blogspot.com/2011/10/atlantic-credit-and-finance-revealing.html
It is not such good news for the Woolwines' cousin, "lawyer" John P. Frye either.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: October 06, 2011 01:03PM
Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his career?
After someone graduates from VMI, they do their time in the military, after that, they can do whatever the fuck they want.
After someone graduates from VMI, they do their time in the military, after that, they can do whatever the fuck they want.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
JBass rules!
()
Date: October 06, 2011 02:14PM
JBass>eesh
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 06, 2011 02:17PM
I don't think VMI gives a shit what you do once you leave the school.
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Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Captain 20
()
Date: October 06, 2011 02:18PM
eesh Wrote:
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> Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> career?
>
> After someone graduates from VMI, they do their
> time in the military, after that, they can do
> whatever the fuck they want.
VMI's honor code extends throughout the cadet's life. You may not agree with that belief system, but that doesn't change the way they do things.
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> Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> career?
>
> After someone graduates from VMI, they do their
> time in the military, after that, they can do
> whatever the fuck they want.
VMI's honor code extends throughout the cadet's life. You may not agree with that belief system, but that doesn't change the way they do things.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
brutharat
()
Date: October 06, 2011 02:22PM
Captain 20 Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> > career?
> >
> > After someone graduates from VMI, they do their
> > time in the military, after that, they can do
> > whatever the fuck they want.
>
> VMI's honor code extends throughout the cadet's
> life. You may not agree with that belief system,
> but that doesn't change the way they do things.
How do you know? Did you go there? Are they going to do anything to you if you don't live up to the honor code when you leave? What's dishonerable about collecting debts? C'mon man.
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> > career?
> >
> > After someone graduates from VMI, they do their
> > time in the military, after that, they can do
> > whatever the fuck they want.
>
> VMI's honor code extends throughout the cadet's
> life. You may not agree with that belief system,
> but that doesn't change the way they do things.
How do you know? Did you go there? Are they going to do anything to you if you don't live up to the honor code when you leave? What's dishonerable about collecting debts? C'mon man.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
FUNdamental
()
Date: October 06, 2011 02:23PM
eesh Wrote:
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> Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> career?
>
> After someone graduates from VMI, they do their
> time in the military, after that, they can do
> whatever the fuck they want.
You don't have to join the military after graduating VMI, do you? It is not a service academy like West Point Annapolis, or Colorado Springs.
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> Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> career?
>
> After someone graduates from VMI, they do their
> time in the military, after that, they can do
> whatever the fuck they want.
You don't have to join the military after graduating VMI, do you? It is not a service academy like West Point Annapolis, or Colorado Springs.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Bill N
()
Date: October 06, 2011 02:31PM
brutharat Wrote:
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> Captain 20 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > eesh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> > > career?
> > >
> > > After someone graduates from VMI, they do
> their
> > > time in the military, after that, they can do
> > > whatever the fuck they want.
> >
> > VMI's honor code extends throughout the cadet's
> > life. You may not agree with that belief
> system,
> > but that doesn't change the way they do things.
>
>
> How do you know? Did you go there? Are they going
> to do anything to you if you don't live up to the
> honor code when you leave?
There are certain things you never stop being. Ever talk to an "Ex-Marine"? I've heard from VMI grads that being a VMI cadet (keydet) is the same way. One attraction to being a rat is that VMI has a fairly good network of graduates. The school may no longer be able to throw you out, but violating the honor code could get you shunned by that network.
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> Captain 20 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > eesh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> > > career?
> > >
> > > After someone graduates from VMI, they do
> their
> > > time in the military, after that, they can do
> > > whatever the fuck they want.
> >
> > VMI's honor code extends throughout the cadet's
> > life. You may not agree with that belief
> system,
> > but that doesn't change the way they do things.
>
>
> How do you know? Did you go there? Are they going
> to do anything to you if you don't live up to the
> honor code when you leave?
There are certain things you never stop being. Ever talk to an "Ex-Marine"? I've heard from VMI grads that being a VMI cadet (keydet) is the same way. One attraction to being a rat is that VMI has a fairly good network of graduates. The school may no longer be able to throw you out, but violating the honor code could get you shunned by that network.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
SUPERretard
()
Date: October 06, 2011 02:33PM
FUNdamental Wrote:
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> You don't have to join the military after
> graduating VMI, do you? It is not a service
> academy like West Point Annapolis, or Colorado
> Springs.
Attachments:
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> You don't have to join the military after
> graduating VMI, do you? It is not a service
> academy like West Point Annapolis, or Colorado
> Springs.
Attachments:
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Collection with Honor
()
Date: October 06, 2011 02:54PM
Never Wore A Coatee Wrote:
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> The head of this lowlife Roanoke bill collection
> agency is a VMI graduate. Apparently VMI is not
> too happy. Their honor code prohibits lying,
> cheating and stealing…
>
> http://atlanticcreditandfinancewatch.blogspot.com/
> 2011/10/atlantic-credit-and-finance-revealing.html
>
>
> It is not such good news for the Woolwines'
> cousin, "lawyer" John P. Frye either.
If you read the blog post and accompanying letter, in no way, shape or form is any "lying, cheating and[/or] stealing" implicated on the part of the collection agency, its head, or Mr. Frye.
The attached letter is an offer to settle a claim, i.e., to resolve a debt through negotiation.
By suggesting that this perfectly legal and honorable letter has somehow crossed the boundary into "lying, cheating and[/or] stealing," the OP "Never Wore A Coatee" clearly verges on, and is in fact probably guilty of defamation per se under Virginia law,* in that s/he imputes a "want of integrity" by the collection agency and its head and/or by Mr. Frye, and also prejudices the aforementioned in the practice of their trade.
*See: http://www.robertslaw.org/slander-libel-defamation.htm
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> The head of this lowlife Roanoke bill collection
> agency is a VMI graduate. Apparently VMI is not
> too happy. Their honor code prohibits lying,
> cheating and stealing…
>
> http://atlanticcreditandfinancewatch.blogspot.com/
> 2011/10/atlantic-credit-and-finance-revealing.html
>
>
> It is not such good news for the Woolwines'
> cousin, "lawyer" John P. Frye either.
If you read the blog post and accompanying letter, in no way, shape or form is any "lying, cheating and[/or] stealing" implicated on the part of the collection agency, its head, or Mr. Frye.
The attached letter is an offer to settle a claim, i.e., to resolve a debt through negotiation.
By suggesting that this perfectly legal and honorable letter has somehow crossed the boundary into "lying, cheating and[/or] stealing," the OP "Never Wore A Coatee" clearly verges on, and is in fact probably guilty of defamation per se under Virginia law,* in that s/he imputes a "want of integrity" by the collection agency and its head and/or by Mr. Frye, and also prejudices the aforementioned in the practice of their trade.
*See: http://www.robertslaw.org/slander-libel-defamation.htm
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
sgt at arms
()
Date: October 06, 2011 03:00PM
wut?
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Usher of the Black Rod
()
Date: October 06, 2011 03:13PM
Bailiff, whack his peepee.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: October 06, 2011 03:39PM
FUNdamental Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> > career?
> >
> > After someone graduates from VMI, they do their
> > time in the military, after that, they can do
> > whatever the fuck they want.
>
>
> You don't have to join the military after
> graduating VMI, do you? It is not a service
> academy like West Point Annapolis, or Colorado
> Springs.
No, you don't.
None of the grads of VMI I've ever known served in the military.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> > career?
> >
> > After someone graduates from VMI, they do their
> > time in the military, after that, they can do
> > whatever the fuck they want.
>
>
> You don't have to join the military after
> graduating VMI, do you? It is not a service
> academy like West Point Annapolis, or Colorado
> Springs.
No, you don't.
None of the grads of VMI I've ever known served in the military.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
fairfaxdude's vmi butt buddies
()
Date: October 06, 2011 03:43PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> None of the grads of VMI I've ever known served in
> the military.
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> None of the grads of VMI I've ever known served in
> the military.
Attachments:
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
such a good example
()
Date: October 06, 2011 04:03PM
This is a good example of "Keydet" behavior:
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/collection-agencies/johnfrye-office.html
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/collection-agencies/johnfrye-office.html
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Their Human Beings
()
Date: October 06, 2011 04:18PM
Subject to the same foibles as anyone else, I think an Academy graduate only has a little, and I emphisize "little", better control over them.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: October 07, 2011 12:57AM
Captain 20 Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> > career?
> >
> > After someone graduates from VMI, they do their
> > time in the military, after that, they can do
> > whatever the fuck they want.
>
> VMI's honor code extends throughout the cadet's
> life. You may not agree with that belief system,
> but that doesn't change the way they do things.
The Honor Code can only be enforced while they are at the academy. Once they take a civilian occupation, nothing is stopping them.
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> > career?
> >
> > After someone graduates from VMI, they do their
> > time in the military, after that, they can do
> > whatever the fuck they want.
>
> VMI's honor code extends throughout the cadet's
> life. You may not agree with that belief system,
> but that doesn't change the way they do things.
The Honor Code can only be enforced while they are at the academy. Once they take a civilian occupation, nothing is stopping them.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: October 07, 2011 12:59AM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> FUNdamental Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > eesh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> > > career?
> > >
> > > After someone graduates from VMI, they do
> their
> > > time in the military, after that, they can do
> > > whatever the fuck they want.
> >
> >
> > You don't have to join the military after
> > graduating VMI, do you? It is not a service
> > academy like West Point Annapolis, or Colorado
> > Springs.
>
>
> No, you don't.
>
> None of the grads of VMI I've ever known served in
> the military.
They can accept a commission in any branch or go into civilian life.....but why would anyone go through a military academy for college without an interest in military service?
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> FUNdamental Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > eesh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> > > career?
> > >
> > > After someone graduates from VMI, they do
> their
> > > time in the military, after that, they can do
> > > whatever the fuck they want.
> >
> >
> > You don't have to join the military after
> > graduating VMI, do you? It is not a service
> > academy like West Point Annapolis, or Colorado
> > Springs.
>
>
> No, you don't.
>
> None of the grads of VMI I've ever known served in
> the military.
They can accept a commission in any branch or go into civilian life.....but why would anyone go through a military academy for college without an interest in military service?
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Private Fatass
()
Date: October 07, 2011 02:12AM
Can you believe eesh was in the military?
Attachments:
Attachments:
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
VMI
()
Date: October 07, 2011 10:36AM
I heard with VMI that once you graduate you can go in at a higher rank to any branch of the service since all of them recognize your time there. Unlike West Point where you have to go into the Army (not that there's anything wrong with that, HOOAH!)
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
SayWhat
()
Date: October 07, 2011 11:17AM
VMI Wrote:
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> I heard with VMI that once you graduate you can go
> in at a higher rank to any branch of the service
> since all of them recognize your time there.
> Unlike West Point where you have to go into the
> Army (not that there's anything wrong with that,
> HOOAH!)
That makes no sense. If you elect to go into the military after VMI graduation, you enter as an O-1 (2nd lieutenant or ensign if Navy), just like in any of the service academies.
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> I heard with VMI that once you graduate you can go
> in at a higher rank to any branch of the service
> since all of them recognize your time there.
> Unlike West Point where you have to go into the
> Army (not that there's anything wrong with that,
> HOOAH!)
That makes no sense. If you elect to go into the military after VMI graduation, you enter as an O-1 (2nd lieutenant or ensign if Navy), just like in any of the service academies.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: October 07, 2011 11:36AM
VMI Wrote:
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> I heard with VMI that once you graduate you can go
> in at a higher rank to any branch of the service
> since all of them recognize your time there.
> Unlike West Point where you have to go into the
> Army (not that there's anything wrong with that,
> HOOAH!)
No. Why would the military show preference to a graduate of a state level academy over its own service academies?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/07/2011 11:36AM by eesh.
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> I heard with VMI that once you graduate you can go
> in at a higher rank to any branch of the service
> since all of them recognize your time there.
> Unlike West Point where you have to go into the
> Army (not that there's anything wrong with that,
> HOOAH!)
No. Why would the military show preference to a graduate of a state level academy over its own service academies?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/07/2011 11:36AM by eesh.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Captain 20
()
Date: October 07, 2011 12:55PM
eesh Wrote:
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> Captain 20 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > eesh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> > > career?
> > >
> > > After someone graduates from VMI, they do
> their
> > > time in the military, after that, they can do
> > > whatever the fuck they want.
> >
> > VMI's honor code extends throughout the cadet's
> > life. You may not agree with that belief
> system,
> > but that doesn't change the way they do things.
>
>
>
> The Honor Code can only be enforced while they are
> at the academy. Once they take a civilian
> occupation, nothing is stopping them.
The honor code can only be enforced while they are enrolled at VMI. That is totally true, eesh. My point was, the VMI honor code becomes a way of life for the cadets beyond their time at VMI. It means if a cadet in their post-VMI life violates the honor code, they can be called out for their conduct. As someone pointed out, this could include being shunned by the VMI network. They take the honor code serious. But yeah, it's not like they're going to haul someone who's graduated or otherwise no longer in school at VMI before the discipline board for judgement or anything.
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> Captain 20 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > eesh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of his
> > > career?
> > >
> > > After someone graduates from VMI, they do
> their
> > > time in the military, after that, they can do
> > > whatever the fuck they want.
> >
> > VMI's honor code extends throughout the cadet's
> > life. You may not agree with that belief
> system,
> > but that doesn't change the way they do things.
>
>
>
> The Honor Code can only be enforced while they are
> at the academy. Once they take a civilian
> occupation, nothing is stopping them.
The honor code can only be enforced while they are enrolled at VMI. That is totally true, eesh. My point was, the VMI honor code becomes a way of life for the cadets beyond their time at VMI. It means if a cadet in their post-VMI life violates the honor code, they can be called out for their conduct. As someone pointed out, this could include being shunned by the VMI network. They take the honor code serious. But yeah, it's not like they're going to haul someone who's graduated or otherwise no longer in school at VMI before the discipline board for judgement or anything.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Gonads & Strife
()
Date: October 07, 2011 12:56PM
VMI Wrote:
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> I heard with VMI that once you graduate you can go
> in at a higher rank to any branch of the service
> since all of them recognize your time there.
> Unlike West Point where you have to go into the
> Army (not that there's anything wrong with that,
> HOOAH!)
dumbest thing I've ever heard. ever.
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> I heard with VMI that once you graduate you can go
> in at a higher rank to any branch of the service
> since all of them recognize your time there.
> Unlike West Point where you have to go into the
> Army (not that there's anything wrong with that,
> HOOAH!)
dumbest thing I've ever heard. ever.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
VMI
()
Date: October 07, 2011 01:00PM
"while all VMI cadets must participate in the Reserve Officers' Training Corps (ROTC), they are not required to serve in the military upon graduation. Instead, VMI graduates may either accept a commission in any of the US military branches or pursue civilian endeavors upon graduation."
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
That's bull
()
Date: October 07, 2011 01:02PM
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> VMI Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I heard with VMI that once you graduate you can
> go
> > in at a higher rank to any branch of the
> service
> > since all of them recognize your time there.
> > Unlike West Point where you have to go into the
> > Army (not that there's anything wrong with
> that,
> > HOOAH!)
>
>
>You heard wrong. Although VMI does have a reputation as a fine Academy, and some of their alumni have achieved some great success in both the Military and Civilian life and like any Academy is much more demanding. West Point is still the number 1 school. As is Coast Guard, Air Force,
Academies and Annapolis.
> VMI Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I heard with VMI that once you graduate you can
> go
> > in at a higher rank to any branch of the
> service
> > since all of them recognize your time there.
> > Unlike West Point where you have to go into the
> > Army (not that there's anything wrong with
> that,
> > HOOAH!)
>
>
>You heard wrong. Although VMI does have a reputation as a fine Academy, and some of their alumni have achieved some great success in both the Military and Civilian life and like any Academy is much more demanding. West Point is still the number 1 school. As is Coast Guard, Air Force,
Academies and Annapolis.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
VMI
()
Date: October 07, 2011 02:45PM
I wasn't knocking any of the other academies. West Point, along with the other academies for other branches, are still and will remain the top schools producing the finest commissioned officers. I think a lot of people misunderstood what I wrote. I was simply stating that unlike branch specific academies, VMI graduates can enter any service as a commissioned officer. As stated here "while all VMI cadets must participate in the Reserve Officers' Training Corps (ROTC), they are not required to serve in the military upon graduation. Instead, VMI graduates may either accept a commission in any of the US military branches or pursue civilian endeavors upon graduation."
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Gonads & Strife
()
Date: October 07, 2011 02:55PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong (and you'd better have a source cited if you do) but don't VMI grads have to go through OCS just like everybody else except those that graduate from a real service academy?
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
G&S = gay ex military
()
Date: October 07, 2011 03:08PM
Go fuck yourself, NoNads&Wife!
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Don't think so.
()
Date: October 07, 2011 03:12PM
Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> Someone correct me if I'm wrong (and you'd better
> have a source cited if you do) but don't VMI grads
> have to go through OCS just like everybody else
> except those that graduate from a real service
> academy?
They might have to, I don't know. I know a guy who graduated from Norwich Military Academy with a BA degree, and was commissioned right away as a lieutenant, of course after that they sent him to a specialty school, but that is not OTS.
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> Someone correct me if I'm wrong (and you'd better
> have a source cited if you do) but don't VMI grads
> have to go through OCS just like everybody else
> except those that graduate from a real service
> academy?
They might have to, I don't know. I know a guy who graduated from Norwich Military Academy with a BA degree, and was commissioned right away as a lieutenant, of course after that they sent him to a specialty school, but that is not OTS.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Gonads & Strife
()
Date: October 07, 2011 10:39PM
G&S = gay ex military Wrote:
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> Go fuck yourself, NoNads&Wife!
quite possibly the best version you've come up with yet
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> Go fuck yourself, NoNads&Wife!
quite possibly the best version you've come up with yet
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets
()
Date: October 09, 2011 06:30PM
If you receive a degree either through an academy or an ROTC program, you do not have to go through OCS (Officers Candidate School), except for those who did their schooling using ROTC and want to be a marine officer - they have to go through Marine OCS.
Along with the service academies and schools like the Citadel and VMI, Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets and the Texas A&M Corps are the only public universities that have a military school within the civilian school.
ROTC's at all other civilian colleges only require meeting a couple of times a week to do military activities.
OCS is generally for college grads who have no military experience at all.
Along with the service academies and schools like the Citadel and VMI, Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets and the Texas A&M Corps are the only public universities that have a military school within the civilian school.
ROTC's at all other civilian colleges only require meeting a couple of times a week to do military activities.
OCS is generally for college grads who have no military experience at all.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Gonads & Strife
()
Date: October 10, 2011 07:45AM
Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets Wrote:
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> If you receive a degree either through an academy
> or an ROTC program, you do not have to go through
> OCS (Officers Candidate School), except for those
> who did their schooling using ROTC and want to be
> a marine officer - they have to go through Marine
> OCS.
>
> Along with the service academies and schools like
> the Citadel and VMI, Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets
> and the Texas A&M Corps are the only public
> universities that have a military school within
> the civilian school.
>
> ROTC's at all other civilian colleges only require
> meeting a couple of times a week to do military
> activities.
>
> OCS is generally for college grads who have no
> military experience at all.
well put, thank you.
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> If you receive a degree either through an academy
> or an ROTC program, you do not have to go through
> OCS (Officers Candidate School), except for those
> who did their schooling using ROTC and want to be
> a marine officer - they have to go through Marine
> OCS.
>
> Along with the service academies and schools like
> the Citadel and VMI, Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets
> and the Texas A&M Corps are the only public
> universities that have a military school within
> the civilian school.
>
> ROTC's at all other civilian colleges only require
> meeting a couple of times a week to do military
> activities.
>
> OCS is generally for college grads who have no
> military experience at all.
well put, thank you.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Nmoore
()
Date: October 11, 2011 08:47AM
You are only a rat for your freshman year. Once you go through the rat line, you are no longer a rat. Get your facts straight Bill.
Bill N Wrote:
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> brutharat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Captain 20 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > eesh Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of
> his
> > > > career?
> > > >
> > > > After someone graduates from VMI, they do
> > their
> > > > time in the military, after that, they can
> do
> > > > whatever the fuck they want.
> > >
> > > VMI's honor code extends throughout the
> cadet's
> > > life. You may not agree with that belief
> > system,
> > > but that doesn't change the way they do
> things.
> >
> >
> > How do you know? Did you go there? Are they
> going
> > to do anything to you if you don't live up to
> the
> > honor code when you leave?
>
> There are certain things you never stop being.
> Ever talk to an "Ex-Marine"? I've heard from VMI
> grads that being a VMI cadet (keydet) is the same
> way. One attraction to being a rat is that VMI
> has a fairly good network of graduates. The
> school may no longer be able to throw you out, but
> violating the honor code could get you shunned by
> that network.
Bill N Wrote:
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> brutharat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Captain 20 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > eesh Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Where does it say that VMI disapproves of
> his
> > > > career?
> > > >
> > > > After someone graduates from VMI, they do
> > their
> > > > time in the military, after that, they can
> do
> > > > whatever the fuck they want.
> > >
> > > VMI's honor code extends throughout the
> cadet's
> > > life. You may not agree with that belief
> > system,
> > > but that doesn't change the way they do
> things.
> >
> >
> > How do you know? Did you go there? Are they
> going
> > to do anything to you if you don't live up to
> the
> > honor code when you leave?
>
> There are certain things you never stop being.
> Ever talk to an "Ex-Marine"? I've heard from VMI
> grads that being a VMI cadet (keydet) is the same
> way. One attraction to being a rat is that VMI
> has a fairly good network of graduates. The
> school may no longer be able to throw you out, but
> violating the honor code could get you shunned by
> that network.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Anti-Woolwine
()
Date: October 11, 2011 11:04AM
I for one think the fact that Woolwine and Frye have not gone out of their way to disperse the suggestion of bank irregularity is enough to get Woolwine kicked out of the VMI network.
http://atlanticcreditandfinancewatch.blogspot.com/2011/10/atlantic-credit-and-finance-wire-fraud.html
http://atlanticcreditandfinancewatch.blogspot.com/2011/10/atlantic-credit-and-finance-wire-fraud.html
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Allen
()
Date: February 23, 2012 11:22AM
As a grad of VMI '93 I can say that the Institute and the alum are concerned with how we act after we leave the school. It is rare, but you can be rolled as an alum. Sadly, not all grads hold this true as I was once told by an older alum when questioning his business ethics that the Honor Code is at VMI and that is where he left it.
There is good and bad at VMI just like the rest of the world. I think that unlike the rest, there is more good there. Best of luck dealing with notorious people...from any group.
There is good and bad at VMI just like the rest of the world. I think that unlike the rest, there is more good there. Best of luck dealing with notorious people...from any group.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: February 23, 2012 04:16PM
Nmoore Wrote:
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> You are only a rat for your freshman year. Once
> you go through the rat line, you are no longer a
> rat. Get your facts straight Bill.
I am aware that VMI students only refer to freshmen as rats. However terms can have different meanings depending on who is saying them. When I was attending another Virginia university years ago the term "rat" was used by students at my school to refer to VMI students generally. If I remember correctly from the tour I took of Lexington the term "rat" was originiated by W&L students to refer to VMI students generally. (BTW I believe the VMI slang term for a W&L student was a "mink".) So do you really want to have this argument? Tell you what. In the future I'll just call you Keydets.
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> You are only a rat for your freshman year. Once
> you go through the rat line, you are no longer a
> rat. Get your facts straight Bill.
I am aware that VMI students only refer to freshmen as rats. However terms can have different meanings depending on who is saying them. When I was attending another Virginia university years ago the term "rat" was used by students at my school to refer to VMI students generally. If I remember correctly from the tour I took of Lexington the term "rat" was originiated by W&L students to refer to VMI students generally. (BTW I believe the VMI slang term for a W&L student was a "mink".) So do you really want to have this argument? Tell you what. In the future I'll just call you Keydets.
Re: VMI Cadet Disgrace
Posted by:
TheGeneral
()
Date: February 24, 2012 01:12AM
Yes, VMI cadets were called "rats" owing to their grey uniforms which looked to W&L men like the fur/coats on a rat. W&L students were called "minks".