http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=45893

While I personally believe that evolutionary biology did indeed create the various species that have existed on Earth, I still think she did an excellent job of pointing out one of the major flaws of evolutionary biology - the lack of fossil evidence.

I know that it causes evolutionists to become absolutely enraged to read or hear, but there is indeed a severe lack of fossil evidence. There's simply very, very few examples of smooth transitions in the fossil record.

What annoys me is that evolutionists fiercely deny this glaringly obvious fact because, as she pointed out, evolutionists have an almost religious fervor in their belief in biological evolution.

And we all know why that is...

Most people view science as their primary weapon to utterly annihilate religion and to convince the whole world to stop believing in God(s).

Evolutionary biology is far more than just a mere scientific theory to them, it's almost an entire worldview or way of life to them.

Let's face it, most people who get involved or are fascinated with science usually get transformed into hardcore far left secular humanists who sneer at people who believe in God.

Science does indeed become their new religion.

And that's why they're utterly unable to ever acknowledge even a hint of doubt in their deeply held scientific beliefs.

That's because's they become evangelists for their new religion of "Sciencism".

And as with most religious fanatics, they're simply incpaable of objective and introspective criticism of their own paradigm.

But really, when you desperately try to deny the obvious, it just reeks of desperation and is just pathetic to witness frankly.

If evolutionists really want to help their cause of spreading the faith, then they need to realize that people simply don't like being lied to.

When you try to browbeat them into submission by spouting half truths and tired talking points over controversies such as large gaps in the fossil record, it just makes the average person think your entire theory is a lie.

I fear the same thing will happen in relation to global warming and public trust in the scientific community.

Once global warming hysteria has been thoroughly debunked and proven to be a massive farce (and I assure you that it will), you're going to look like a bunch of religious cultists who claimed the End of Days was coming next month, only for that time to pass and then everyone laughs at and dismisses you.

You simply cannot try to talk your way out of a flaw in your theory.

Be totally open and honest to the flaws in your ideas and open up the discourse to alternative points of view (like Intelligent Design) in order to both better gain the trust of the wider public and to be more intellectually honest within your own views.

Science = Facts, evidence, and proof

Religion = Faith and fairy tales

Evolutionists is my term of the day. How about realists.

Creationists should now be Denialists and I ain't talkin about a river in Egypt.

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> alternative points of view (like Intelligent Design)

Intelligent Design was fabricated by conservative Americans who were pissed off because the Supreme Court wouldn't allow christian creationism to be taught in schools. It's as simple as that. It's unscientific nonsense entirely spawned by the ignorant political opinions of the far-right.

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> Yucky24 Wrote:
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> >
> > alternative points of view (like Intelligent
> Design)
>
> Intelligent Design was fabricated by conservative
> Americans who were pissed off because the Supreme
> Court wouldn't allow christian creationism to be
> taught in schools. It's as simple as that. It's
> unscientific nonsense entirely spawned by the
> ignorant political opinions of the far-right.


+1 Fucking creationoids.

Yucky24 Wrote:
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> http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=45893
>
> While I personally believe that evolutionary
> biology did indeed create the various species that
> have existed on Earth, I still think she did an
> excellent job of pointing out one of the major
> flaws of evolutionary biology - the lack of fossil
> evidence.
>
> I know that it causes evolutionists to become
> absolutely enraged to read or hear, but there is
> indeed a severe lack of fossil evidence. There's
> simply very, very few examples of smooth
> transitions in the fossil record.
>
> What annoys me is that evolutionists fiercely deny
> this glaringly obvious fact because, as she
> pointed out, evolutionists have an almost
> religious fervor in their belief in biological
> evolution.
>
> And we all know why that is...
>
> Most people view science as their primary weapon
> to utterly annihilate religion and to convince the
> whole world to stop believing in God(s).
>
> Evolutionary biology is far more than just a mere
> scientific theory to them, it's almost an entire
> worldview or way of life to them.
>
> Let's face it, most people who get involved or are
> fascinated with science usually get transformed
> into hardcore far left secular humanists who sneer
> at people who believe in God.
>
> Science does indeed become their new religion.
>
> And that's why they're utterly unable to ever
> acknowledge even a hint of doubt in their deeply
> held scientific beliefs.
>
> That's because's they become evangelists for their
> new religion of "Sciencism".
>
> And as with most religious fanatics, they're
> simply incpaable of objective and introspective
> criticism of their own paradigm.
>
> But really, when you desperately try to deny the
> obvious, it just reeks of desperation and is just
> pathetic to witness frankly.
>
> If evolutionists really want to help their cause
> of spreading the faith, then they need to realize
> that people simply don't like being lied to.

you mean like religions do?
>
> When you try to browbeat them into submission by
> spouting half truths and tired talking points over
> controversies such as large gaps in the fossil
> record, it just makes the average person think
> your entire theory is a lie.
>
sounds like religion through the ages

> I fear the same thing will happen in relation to
> global warming and public trust in the scientific
> community.
>
> Once global warming hysteria has been thoroughly
> debunked and proven to be a massive farce (and I
> assure you that it will), you're going to look
> like a bunch of religious cultists who claimed the
> End of Days was coming next month, only for that
> time to pass and then everyone laughs at and
> dismisses you.
>
> You simply cannot try to talk your way out of a
> flaw in your theory.
>
> Be totally open and honest to the flaws in your
> ideas and open up the discourse to alternative
> points of view (like Intelligent Design) in order
> to both better gain the trust of the wider public
> and to be more intellectually honest within your
> own views.
By far the ones I've met that are devout anti-evolutionists are by far the least likely to ever entertain an alternative to 'God made us'.

Some people need a 'religion' to believe in. For many it's christianity or what not, for others perhaps science fits the bill. For me, I think I'll have another drink and continue to be entertained.

I have an idea. Let's compare Evolutionists' fossil records with Creationists' fossil records and see which are more complete. Where are Adam and Eve's bones? You don't have them? Well, Creationism must be wrong then, right?

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Ann Coulter is evidence there is no God.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I have an idea. Let's compare Evolutionists'
> fossil records with Creationists'

Evolution isn't even based on fossil records, that's the stupidest thing about his [Ann Coulter's] argument.

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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> > I have an idea. Let's compare Evolutionists'
> > fossil records with Creationists'
>
> Evolution isn't even based on fossil records,
> that's the stupidest thing about his argument.


The fact is you can demonstrate natural selection in a Petri Dish. Antibiotic resistant TB is an example of natural selection.

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You can apply evolution and natural selection to any humane activity (because we are a byproduct of evolution.)

The car or the computer or caulk or cans or every other humane activity & innovation regardless of the letter it starts with.

Give me a human activity or innovation and I'll show you evolution.

Religion is a byproduct of evolution. The early man who believed in gods then a god lived longer and had more children. Tahhdahh evolution.



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Coulter's just upset because she missed a hormone treatment and her adam's apple is showing again.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> The fact is you can demonstrate natural selection
> in a Petri Dish.

Most of the fruits and vegetables we eat are results of selective genetics. Most of the grass and the trees in your yard, too.

Religion really fails to describe anything about reality.

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> >
> > The fact is you can demonstrate natural
> selection
> > in a Petri Dish.
>
> Most of the fruits and vegetables we eat are
> results of selective genetics. Most of the grass
> and the trees in your yard, too.
>
> Religion really fails to describe anything about
> reality.

Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel and fucked his own sister. That's where all of us came from.

Make sense?

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Yea it is def air brushed. But, I would hit it. JUST 1 TIMEEEEEEE!!!!! I bet that bitch is freaky deaky when the clothes come off.
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The reason why people get so upset when creationist bring up the "lack of fossil records" nonsense, is because it's nonsense. There are plenty of transitional fossils available to view, as close by as the Smithsonian, but creationist won't even go there to look.

Chris Hitchens points out very poignantly that when creationists ask for transitional fossils and then are shown some, they say "well what about the next transition?" Then when they're shown those, they keep repeating the process, ad nauseum.
Like WTL pointed out, evolution can be verified even if there were no fossil records, by observing DNA codes and current lab studies on bacteria.

People who look to Ann Coulter for information on biology, cosmology, geology and evolutionary science are themselves proof of how close we still are to apes.

As if Ann Coulter has any credibility.

Numbers Wrote:
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> The reason why people get so upset when
> creationist bring up the "lack of fossil records"
> nonsense, is because it's nonsense. There are
> plenty of transitional fossils available to view,
> as close by as the Smithsonian, but creationist
> won't even go there to look.
>
> Chris Hitchens points out very poignantly that
> when creationists ask for transitional fossils and
> then are shown some, they say "well what about the
> next transition?" Then when they're shown those,
> they keep repeating the process, ad nauseum.
> Like WTL pointed out, evolution can be verified
> even if there were no fossil records, by observing
> DNA codes and current lab studies on bacteria.
>
> People who look to Ann Coulter for information on
> biology, cosmology, geology and evolutionary
> science are themselves proof of how close we still
> are to apes.

I was about to say the same thing.

And in addition, every fossil found fits exactly where it is supposed to be and predicted where it should be. Find a million year old rabbit, and the whole evolution thing falls apart.

Again, one discovery that does not fit - evolution theory falls apart. Will the creationists open the bible to the same scrutiny?

And for all her religious advocacy - she still can not speak in church, cause the boble says that would be a shameful act. HAHAHA Anne, I can speak in church cause I am a man. She cant cause is a woman.

Fairfaxunderground rules: Lilliputions, not ok. Midgettville ok. I got it now.



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Crazy bitch.



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Fossils are quite rare. They require a very specific environment, setting and rock composition to form. We are lucky to have our current collection.
You want hard evidence? Take a look at your own vestigial anatomy.
DNA will expose the evolutionary chain and turn this theory into law.

LMAO

I absolutely love all these extremely retarded and annoying liberal atheist fucks bashing Christianity in response to my thread even though I'm not a Christian and never once referenced Christian theology anywhere in my original post...

I'm actually a former hardcore leftist militant atheist but have since abadoned those retarded cunts because, well, they're extremely unattractive idiots.



Just fyi, I don't follow any organized religion although I do believe in God now for purely philosophical reasons...

Anywho, I actually think an Orthodox Jew gave one of the best defenses of Christianity that I've ever heard:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCX1IXdwYT0

You claim you used to be a 'hardcore, leftist, militant atheist', yet in that one sentence, you proved you were never an atheist at all, because the only people that ever use that phrase are Christians on the losing end of a discussion that they brought up themselves.

Laugh all you want at the people who responded to YOUR claim that Ann Coulter did a great job at pointing out the age old fossil record nonsense, but the joke is on you for,
a) Believing the "fossil record" bullshit that Ann Coulter spouted
b) Claiming to be an atheist
c) Calling atheism a religion
d) Listening to and/or reading anything by Ann Coulter

"Forever alone?" No, you aren't forever alone because you simply cease to exist. You aren't going to be conscious that you no longer exist because the thing that gives you the power of perception, your brain, will cease to function.

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WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> "Forever alone?" No, you aren't forever alone
> because you simply cease to exist. You aren't
> going to be conscious that you no longer exist
> because the thing that gives you the power of
> perception, your brain, will cease to function.


+1

Good gawd... This was an obvious troll thread...

Signatures are for fags

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> Good gawd... This was an obvious troll thread...



Takes one to know one, retard!

who has two opposable thumbs and believes Evolution? THIS GUY!

OMGOMGOMG! Which one's right? You have to choose one! One is right and the other is wrong and the people who subscribe to the wrong one are stupid idiots that need to catch up on some reading...

Oh what a terrible manufactured pickle we're in...
God can't exist if evolution is real... and evolution can't be real if god exists!!!

... right?

Signatures are for fags

Religion LOL

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> OMGOMGOMG! Which one's right? You have to choose
> one! One is right and the other is wrong and the
> people who subscribe to the wrong one are stupid
> idiots that need to catch up on some reading...
>
> Oh what a terrible manufactured pickle we're
> in...
> God can't exist if evolution is real... and
> evolution can't be real if god exists!!!
>
> ... right?

Harry,
That's right, at least in terms of the christian/biblical/islamic god(s). They are all based on Abraham, from the old testament. Abraham (and in fact all of us) are descendants of Adam and Eve, which we know for a fact could never have existed (based on lineage timelines and DNA).

If evolution is real, what purpose would a god have? Why bother? What's in it for him/her? What's in it for us?

Numbers Wrote:
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> If evolution is real, what purpose would a god
> have? Why bother? What's in it for him/her? What's
> in it for us?


Religion is okay as long as you keep it to yourself and don't start using it to substitute for parts of nature you don't understand. If someone thinks he will go to heaven after he dies but otherwise lives a life based on reason and logic, it harms no one.

The problem with bigoted right wing christianoids is that they can't separate religion from nature, and actually believe wierd things, such as the idea that the constitution was written to promote christian values, or when they use their religion to justify their moronic prejudices.

Religion, lol!
(by far my favorite on-going quote from fu)

Your choice quiz. Which two are conservatives, which two are liberals
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The first one's a conservative, because she's attractive, but in a harsh kind of way.

The second and fourth are liberals, because they are fugly and look like men.

The third one's a fake conservative, because she seems attractive at first until the adam's apple gives it away.

tomahawk Wrote:
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> Religion is okay as long as you keep it to
> yourself and don't start using it to substitute
> for parts of nature you don't understand. If
> someone thinks he will go to heaven after he dies
> but otherwise lives a life based on reason and
> logic, it harms no one.


I disagree. By believing that one is going to some sort of paradise after death, it inclines one to do things a non believing, finite person would not, especially if the doctrine they follow is not friendly to non believers. It also tends to put less emphasis on your real lifetime, because death brings all the pussy, dead relatives and green pastures.

This is why we have suicide bombers, Kamakaze pilots, David Koresh and all the other fruitcakes that are dangerous to themselves and others. Sure, there are those capable of controlling themselves, but there are many that can't.

Fooling yourself to believe in falsehoods is NOT a good thing to do for anyone, IMO. It just means you're too weak to handle reality and probably use the same cognitive dissonance in other ares of your life, such as finances, friendships, love, etc.... I prefer people that tell me the truth, good or bad and let me deal with it the best I can.


> The problem with bigoted right wing christianoids
> is that they can't separate religion from nature,
> and actually believe wierd things, such as the
> idea that the constitution was written to promote
> christian values, or when they use their religion
> to justify their moronic prejudices.


Or when they try to impose religion into other peoples lives, by indoctrinating children before they reach an age of reason with fear tactics, by passing laws and other legal impositions based on their religion and by not paying their fair share of taxes. For 1500 years they have enjoyed a free ride, without a single obstacle because there was no way for people to publicly denounce what a sham it is. Finally, the internet has allowed sane people to gather together and put an end to their untouchable reign.

The pedophile priest issue would never have amounted to anything without the internet and kids would still be quietly and systematically raped.

Religion is tolerable in small doses, but like everything else, is very bad in larger amounts.

On the other hand, one could argue that an athiest feels he has nothing to lose by being a complete dick his whole life. Joseph Stalin, for instance. He didn't believe in a hell, so why not murder millions of people, including your own wife and one of your sons, if it gets you lots of power and a comfortable life.

Just sayin'...

tomahawk Wrote:
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> On the other hand, one could argue that an athiest
> feels he has nothing to lose by being a complete
> dick his whole life. Joseph Stalin, for instance.
> He didn't believe in a hell, so why not murder
> millions of people, including your own wife and
> one of your sons, if it gets you lots of power and
> a comfortable life.
>
> Just sayin'...


The difference is that Stalin didnt commit any of his atrocities in the name of, or because of his atheism. He was a paranoid power junkie and would do anything to maintain his position.

If the fear of hell is the only deterant to bad behavior, we're all in deep shit.

Yes, I always laugh hysterically when militant left-wing atheists go on and on about how the world would be such a better place if only we atheists took it over and destroyed "primitive" religion...

Such ignorance.

Such brainwashing.

Such self-delusion.

You leftist atheist retards DID rule the world.

It was called COMMUNISM.

Christians and Buddhists were ruthlessly oppressed and persecuted; "Jesus freaks" were shot in the back of the head in the middle of Russian streets and their ancient Churches were converted into state gymnasiums; Buddhist "spaghetii monster worshippers" had their ancient templed shelled to the ground and their monks were tortured and worked to death in labor camps all over China; etc; etc; etc...

Over 100 MILLION innocent unarmed people were killed and countless billions more barbarically oppressed by you left-wing, socialist, liberal, atheist, fucks who denounced religion as a "crutch" and the "opium of the masses..."

You've already HAD your chance left-wing atheists and you TOTALLY FUCKED EVERYTHING UP.

What makes you think you deserve another shot?

The only religion who should be trying to destroy is pisslam.

All the rest are fine.

Get educated.

Ann Coulter is a man, baby.



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Since when were atheists all left-wing? I don't believe in God but have many conservative views...

Libertarian Wrote:
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> Since when were atheists all left-wing? I don't
> believe in God but have many conservative views...


When people use the term "left wing atheists", what they're really describing is anyone not on the far right or a Teabagger.

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> Your choice quiz. Which two are conservatives,
> which two are liberals

The second one looks just like a fat pig of a boss I once had, it made me vomit to see her

Yucky24 Wrote:
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> Yes, I always laugh hysterically when militant
> left-wing atheists go on and on about how the
> world would be such a better place if only we
> atheists took it over and destroyed "primitive"
> religion...
>
> Such ignorance.
>
> Such brainwashing.
>
> Such self-delusion.
>
> You leftist atheist retards DID rule the world.
>
> It was called COMMUNISM.
>
> Christians and Buddhists were ruthlessly oppressed
> and persecuted; "Jesus freaks" were shot in the
> back of the head in the middle of Russian streets
> and their ancient Churches were converted into
> state gymnasiums; Buddhist "spaghetii monster
> worshippers" had their ancient templed shelled to
> the ground and their monks were tortured and
> worked to death in labor camps all over China;
> etc; etc; etc...
>
> Over 100 MILLION innocent unarmed people were
> killed and countless billions more barbarically
> oppressed by you left-wing, socialist, liberal,
> atheist, fucks who denounced religion as a
> "crutch" and the "opium of the masses..."
>
> You've already HAD your chance left-wing atheists
> and you TOTALLY FUCKED EVERYTHING UP.
>
> What makes you think you deserve another shot?
>
> The only religion who should be trying to destroy
> is pisslam.
>
> All the rest are fine.
>
> Get educated.

You crazy dude. Such misguided fervor!

I did like your piece on being healthy in that other thread tho.