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Creators of Internet Honored; Al Gore pissed
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155
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Date: May 18, 2011 03:16PM
Marking history: Internet makers get recognition
Wednesday - 5/18/2011, 7:34am ET
Hank Silverberg, wtop.com
ARLINGTON, Va. -- So, who really did invent the Internet?
It wasn't one person but a group of people working for a branch of the Department of Defense known as the Advanced Research Projects Agency. A good part of it was based along Wilson Boulevard in Arlington where Francis Neidenfurer worked back in the 1960s.
"One thing ARPA did was to shovel a lot of money back and forth, and it's the money that invents things, isn't it?"
Robert Young also worked on the ARPA-NET as it was called.
"There were numerous military applications when the ARPA-NET came on line which was about 1973. "
Young says ARPA was there to come up with "the latest crazy ideas that no one else would fund."
The first e-mail went out over the net in 1978. The National Science Foundation eventually Internet research but it wasn't until the invention of the personal computer in the 1990s that the Internet exploded.
So, what's the next bit invention that will revolutionize the world?
"I really don't know," says Eric Willis another ARPA-NET vet.
"It's gone so far from the beginning that it's almost impossible to extrapolate from here."
The ARPA-NET inventors are getting two historical markers right on Wilson Boulevard where their office used to be. One will tell their story in English. The other will be binary code.
Wednesday - 5/18/2011, 7:34am ET
Hank Silverberg, wtop.com
ARLINGTON, Va. -- So, who really did invent the Internet?
It wasn't one person but a group of people working for a branch of the Department of Defense known as the Advanced Research Projects Agency. A good part of it was based along Wilson Boulevard in Arlington where Francis Neidenfurer worked back in the 1960s.
"One thing ARPA did was to shovel a lot of money back and forth, and it's the money that invents things, isn't it?"
Robert Young also worked on the ARPA-NET as it was called.
"There were numerous military applications when the ARPA-NET came on line which was about 1973. "
Young says ARPA was there to come up with "the latest crazy ideas that no one else would fund."
The first e-mail went out over the net in 1978. The National Science Foundation eventually Internet research but it wasn't until the invention of the personal computer in the 1990s that the Internet exploded.
So, what's the next bit invention that will revolutionize the world?
"I really don't know," says Eric Willis another ARPA-NET vet.
"It's gone so far from the beginning that it's almost impossible to extrapolate from here."
The ARPA-NET inventors are getting two historical markers right on Wilson Boulevard where their office used to be. One will tell their story in English. The other will be binary code.
Re: Creators of Internet Honored; Al Gore pissed
Posted by:
Gonads & Strife
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Date: May 18, 2011 03:19PM
155 Wrote:
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> The ARPA-NET inventors are getting two historical
> markers right on Wilson Boulevard where their
> office used to be. One will tell their story in
> English. The other will be binary code.
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> The ARPA-NET inventors are getting two historical
> markers right on Wilson Boulevard where their
> office used to be. One will tell their story in
> English. The other will be binary code.
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Re: Creators of Internet Honored; Al Gore pissed
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ALGOREFACTSMORE RIGHT
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Date: May 18, 2011 03:38PM
Gore had been involved with computers since the 1970s, first as a Congressman and later as Senator and Vice President, where he was a "genuine nerd, with a geek reputation running back to his days as a futurist Atari Democrat in the House. Before computers were comprehensible [...] Gore struggled to explain artificial intelligence and fiber-optic networks to sleepy colleagues."[1] According to Campbell-Kelly and Aspray (Computer: A History of the Information Machine), up until the early 1990s public usage of the Internet was limited and the "problem of giving ordinary Americans network access had exercised Senator Al Gore since the late 1970s."
Of Gore's involvement in the then-developing Internet while in Congress, Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn have also noted that,
As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high-speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.[3]
As a Senator, Gore began to craft the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (commonly referred to as "The Gore Bill") after hearing the 1988 report Toward a National Research Network[6] submitted to Congress by a group chaired by UCLA professor of computer science, Leonard Kleinrock, one of the central creators of the ARPANET (the ARPANET, first deployed by Kleinrock and others in 1969, is the predecessor of the Internet).
Indeed, Kleinrock would later credit both Gore and the Gore Bill as a critical moment in Internet history:
A second development occurred around this time, namely, then-Senator Al Gore, a strong and knowledgeable proponent of the Internet, promoted legislation that resulted in President George H.W Bush signing the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991. This Act allocated $600 million for high performance computing and for the creation of the National Research and Education Network [13–14]. The NREN brought together industry, academia and government in a joint effort to accelerate the development and deployment of gigabit/sec networking.[8]
The bill was passed on Dec. 9, 1991 and led to the National Information Infrastructure (NII) which Gore referred to as the "information superhighway". President George H. W. Bush predicted that the bill would help "unlock the secrets of DNA," open up foreign markets to free trade, and a promise of cooperation between government, academia, and industry.
Prior to its passage, Gore discussed the basics of the bill in an article for the September 1991 issue of Scientific American entitled Scientific American presents the September 1991 Single Copy Issue: Communications, Computers, and Networks. His essay, "Infrastructure for the Global Village", commented on the lack of network access described above and argued: "Rather than holding back, the U.S. should lead by building the information infrastructure, essential if all Americans are to gain access to this transforming technology" "high speed networks must be built that tie together millions of computers, providing capabilities that we cannot even imagine."
There was talk of a potential run in the 2000 presidential race by Gore as early as January 1998. Gore discussed the possibility of running during a March 9, 1999 interview with CNN's Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer. In response to Wolf Blitzer's question: "Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley?", Gore responded:
I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be. But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology
Of Gore's involvement in the then-developing Internet while in Congress, Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn have also noted that,
As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high-speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.[3]
As a Senator, Gore began to craft the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (commonly referred to as "The Gore Bill") after hearing the 1988 report Toward a National Research Network[6] submitted to Congress by a group chaired by UCLA professor of computer science, Leonard Kleinrock, one of the central creators of the ARPANET (the ARPANET, first deployed by Kleinrock and others in 1969, is the predecessor of the Internet).
Indeed, Kleinrock would later credit both Gore and the Gore Bill as a critical moment in Internet history:
A second development occurred around this time, namely, then-Senator Al Gore, a strong and knowledgeable proponent of the Internet, promoted legislation that resulted in President George H.W Bush signing the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991. This Act allocated $600 million for high performance computing and for the creation of the National Research and Education Network [13–14]. The NREN brought together industry, academia and government in a joint effort to accelerate the development and deployment of gigabit/sec networking.[8]
The bill was passed on Dec. 9, 1991 and led to the National Information Infrastructure (NII) which Gore referred to as the "information superhighway". President George H. W. Bush predicted that the bill would help "unlock the secrets of DNA," open up foreign markets to free trade, and a promise of cooperation between government, academia, and industry.
Prior to its passage, Gore discussed the basics of the bill in an article for the September 1991 issue of Scientific American entitled Scientific American presents the September 1991 Single Copy Issue: Communications, Computers, and Networks. His essay, "Infrastructure for the Global Village", commented on the lack of network access described above and argued: "Rather than holding back, the U.S. should lead by building the information infrastructure, essential if all Americans are to gain access to this transforming technology" "high speed networks must be built that tie together millions of computers, providing capabilities that we cannot even imagine."
There was talk of a potential run in the 2000 presidential race by Gore as early as January 1998. Gore discussed the possibility of running during a March 9, 1999 interview with CNN's Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer. In response to Wolf Blitzer's question: "Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley?", Gore responded:
I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be. But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology
Re: Creators of Internet Honored; Al Gore pissed
Posted by:
fact
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Date: May 18, 2011 03:46PM
@ALGOREFACTSMORE RIGHT
Your long cut-n-paste aside. He did NOT take the intiative to create the internet. The words came straight from his mouth. That's the fact.
Your long cut-n-paste aside. He did NOT take the intiative to create the internet. The words came straight from his mouth. That's the fact.
Re: Creators of Internet Honored; Al Gore pissed
Posted by:
Johnny Walker
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Date: May 18, 2011 03:57PM
I am so sick of the conservative obsession with Al Gore. No one cares. The accusations of his claiming to have invented the Internet have long been discredited. If one continues to trot this out then that is a problem with their own basic comprehension. And no one is following his almighty word on climate change either. That they stick with demonizing this one individual who ceased to be of any real consequence in 2000 is pathetic.
Re: Creators of Internet Honored; Al Gore pissed
Posted by:
fact
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Date: May 18, 2011 04:07PM
Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> I am so sick of the conservative obsession with Al
> Gore. No one cares. The accusations of his
> claiming to have invented the Internet have long
> been discredited. If one continues to trot this
> out then that is a problem with their own basic
> comprehension. And no one is following his
> almighty word on climate change either. That they
> stick with demonizing this one individual who
> ceased to be of any real consequence in 2000 is
> pathetic.
Who in this thread said he invented the internet?
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> I am so sick of the conservative obsession with Al
> Gore. No one cares. The accusations of his
> claiming to have invented the Internet have long
> been discredited. If one continues to trot this
> out then that is a problem with their own basic
> comprehension. And no one is following his
> almighty word on climate change either. That they
> stick with demonizing this one individual who
> ceased to be of any real consequence in 2000 is
> pathetic.
Who in this thread said he invented the internet?
Re: Creators of Internet Honored; Al Gore pissed
Posted by:
Louie Stat
()
Date: May 18, 2011 04:51PM
Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> I am so sick of the conservative obsession with Al
> Gore. No one cares. The accusations of his
> claiming to have invented the Internet have long
> been discredited. If one continues to trot this
> out then that is a problem with their own basic
> comprehension. And no one is following his
> almighty word on climate change either. That they
> stick with demonizing this one individual who
> ceased to be of any real consequence in 2000 is
> pathetic.
I would agree except for the liberal obsession with Sarah Palin. I mean really Sarah Palin. Come on now.
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> I am so sick of the conservative obsession with Al
> Gore. No one cares. The accusations of his
> claiming to have invented the Internet have long
> been discredited. If one continues to trot this
> out then that is a problem with their own basic
> comprehension. And no one is following his
> almighty word on climate change either. That they
> stick with demonizing this one individual who
> ceased to be of any real consequence in 2000 is
> pathetic.
I would agree except for the liberal obsession with Sarah Palin. I mean really Sarah Palin. Come on now.
Re: Creators of Internet Honored; Al Gore pissed
Posted by:
Johnny Walker
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Date: May 18, 2011 05:06PM
Sarah Palin ran for VP just a few years ago. Sarah Palin has done everything to keep herself in the media spotlight since then. Sarah Palin had a God damn TV show.
Re: Creators of Internet Honored; Al Gore pissed
Posted by:
Ut videam
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Date: May 18, 2011 05:07PM
"Sarah Palin had a God damn TV show."
And Al Gore got a fucking Nobel Peace Prize for doing sweet fuck-all.
And Al Gore got a fucking Nobel Peace Prize for doing sweet fuck-all.
Re: Creators of Internet Honored; Al Gore pissed
Posted by:
Johnny Walker
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Date: May 18, 2011 05:16PM
I knew I shouldn't have come back to this thread.
The media presences of Al Gore and Sarah Palin are very different from each other. They both do promote themselves, no doubt. Palin however does it more and, yes, maybe just plain better. I doubt Al gore went out of his way to ask for the Nobel Prize, and I don't know what the fuck is up with the Nobel people lately. See: Obama's award.
As a liberal, I can honestly say as far as I know there is no liberal "obsession" with Sarah Palin. She is talked about like any celebrity because that is what she is now. I am no more obsessed with her than I am with Lindsay Lohan's long path of self-destruction. I read about her sometimes and just shake my head, that is all it is. That's all she is to most people in general, I think. At most, liberals just wish the Republicans will by some miracle actually nominate her for president, and I don't think most people in their wildest partisan dreams could imagine that happening.
Edit: I really am kind of obsessed by Lindsay Lohan's long path of self-destruction, but you get the point.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/18/2011 05:18PM by Johnny Walker.
The media presences of Al Gore and Sarah Palin are very different from each other. They both do promote themselves, no doubt. Palin however does it more and, yes, maybe just plain better. I doubt Al gore went out of his way to ask for the Nobel Prize, and I don't know what the fuck is up with the Nobel people lately. See: Obama's award.
As a liberal, I can honestly say as far as I know there is no liberal "obsession" with Sarah Palin. She is talked about like any celebrity because that is what she is now. I am no more obsessed with her than I am with Lindsay Lohan's long path of self-destruction. I read about her sometimes and just shake my head, that is all it is. That's all she is to most people in general, I think. At most, liberals just wish the Republicans will by some miracle actually nominate her for president, and I don't think most people in their wildest partisan dreams could imagine that happening.
Edit: I really am kind of obsessed by Lindsay Lohan's long path of self-destruction, but you get the point.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/18/2011 05:18PM by Johnny Walker.
Re: Creators of Internet Honored; Al Gore pissed
Posted by:
Gravis
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Date: May 18, 2011 08:49PM
btw, i wonder if they are regretting giving obama the peace prize now.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Re: Creators of Internet Honored; Al Gore pissed
Posted by:
SoylentGreen
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Date: May 18, 2011 09:06PM
Johnny Walker Wrote:
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I doubt
> Al gore went out of his way to ask for the Nobel
> Prize,
He didn't have time to ask for anything. He was too busy promoting his bullshit lie filled film that was full of lies, lies and...........lies.
That said Johnny..........I agree with you about Palin. And I honestly don't blame Palin. The media hounded her, chased her down for interviews, asked her opinions on all sorts of things and this was all well after the election was over.
She didn't ask for it. Not really. The left and the right asked for her. If the press and the people had ignored her, she could easily have gone on to take her place next to Edwards, Lieberman and Musky.
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I doubt
> Al gore went out of his way to ask for the Nobel
> Prize,
He didn't have time to ask for anything. He was too busy promoting his bullshit lie filled film that was full of lies, lies and...........lies.
That said Johnny..........I agree with you about Palin. And I honestly don't blame Palin. The media hounded her, chased her down for interviews, asked her opinions on all sorts of things and this was all well after the election was over.
She didn't ask for it. Not really. The left and the right asked for her. If the press and the people had ignored her, she could easily have gone on to take her place next to Edwards, Lieberman and Musky.