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New York Serial Killer
Posted by: Inspector Fuzz ()
Date: May 17, 2011 11:59AM

New York serial killer thought to be real-life ‘Dexter’
By Brett Michael Dykes
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110411/ts_yblog_thelookout/new-york-serial-killer-thought-to-be-real-life-dexter

With summer approaching, a cunning, vicious and prolific serial killer is on the loose in New York City--a sadly familiar refrain--and experts believe he may be someone well-versed in forensic investigations. In other words, Gotham may have its own real-life "Dexter" on the loose, responsible for the deaths of at least four women, possibly eight.

This victims of this particular killer have all been prostitutes--a target of serial killers dating back to the days of Jack the Ripper--who marketed their services on Craigslist. And in the past two days, both the New York Post and the New York Times have cited law enforcement sources saying that they believe the killer could be one of their own, or at least someone who has taken the time to educate themselves on murder investigations.

Police say when the killer has made calls to family members of his victims to taunt them, he's done so from high-density areas in Manhattan like Times Square and Penn Station, where it's much more difficult for police to trace his calls and he can easily blend into crowds. Police say the killer also used disposable cell phones to communicate with his would-be victims.

"He is a guy who is aware of how we utilize technology," one investigator told the New York Times. "Frankly, people are thinking maybe he could be a cop ... Without question, this guy is smart, this guy is not a dope ... It's a guy who thinks about things."

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Long Island serial killer appears knowledgable about police techniques
http://www.telegram.com/article/20110409/NEWS/110409679

Whoever killed four prostitutes, and possibly four other people, and then dumped their bodies in heavy underbrush along a beachfront causeway on Long Island appears to have a sophisticated understanding of police investigative techniques, according to people briefed on the case.

A series of taunting phone calls made to the teenage sister of one of the victims — calls that the police suspect came from the killer — were made from in or around some of the most crowded locations in New York City, including Madison Square Garden and Times Square, according to the people briefed on the case and to the mother of Melissa Barthelemy, that victim.

The locations, detectives say, were probably chosen because they allowed the caller to blend into crowds, so that if investigators pinpointed his location from the cellphone's signal, they would be unable to pick him out of the crowd using any nearby surveillance cameras, one of the people said.

This fact, as well as the killer's use of disposable cellphones to contact the four victims who have been identified — women in their 20s who advertised their services on Craigslist — suggested to some investigators that the killer was well versed in criminal investigative techniques, gleaned either through personal experience or in some other way, and could even be in law enforcement himself.

“He is a guy who is aware of how we utilize technology,” one investigator said. “Frankly, people are thinking maybe he could be a cop” — either one still in law enforcement or one who has moved on.

“Without question, this guy is smart, this guy is not a dope,” the investigator continued. “It's a guy who thinks about things.”

Also, the caller kept each of his vulgar, mocking and insulting calls to less than three minutes, according to the dead woman's mother, Lynn Barthelemy. The caller made about a half-dozen calls over roughly five weeks to the victim's sister.

One investigator said the brief duration of the calls thwarted efforts by the New York Police Department to use the signal to pinpoint the caller's location and find him, something Lynn Barthelemy said they told her they tried to do four times.

New York investigators began those efforts about a week after Melissa Barthelemy, a 24-year-old who lived in the Bronx, disappeared around July 10, 2009.

The investigator, and several others, emphasized that the idea that the killer could be an active or former law enforcement officer was just one theory being examined by homicide investigators in Suffolk County, where the bodies were found.

The Suffolk Police Department's chief of detectives, Dominick Varrone, would say only, “Our investigative team is considering many theories and all possibilities.”

The police commissioner, Richard Dormer, said in a statement late Friday that “no suspect has been identified in the Gilgo Beach homicides.”

Ms. Barthelemy's body was one of four uncovered over the course of three days in December in the thick undergrowth along Ocean Parkway, near Gilgo Beach, in the town of Babylon. All were dumped in burlap sacks.

It is unclear whether the county medical examiner's office, working with its counterpart in New York City, has determined the causes of death in the four cases.

The discovery marked the third time in two decades that a serial killer of prostitutes had stalked Long Island.

After the snow melted, the Suffolk police intensified their search in the area. On March 29, a Marine Unit officer discovered a fifth set of remains, and two days later, three more sets of remains were found, more than a mile east of where the first bodies were found clustered.

Two officials briefed on the case said it appeared that those additional sets of remains had been dumped many years prior to those found in December, and there were no burlap sacks.

They said there were other differences that set them apart from the four bodies that have been identified, but they would not describe them.

Both of the officials suggested that the differences raised the possibility that remains found in the past two weeks — the police have yet to identify them or even say whether they have determined the gender of the dead — were unrelated to the four Craigslist women.

But they also said the differences could be ascribed to the development of the killer's technique over time.

On July 10 nearly two years ago, Ms. Barthelemy saw a client and then deposited $900 into her bank account, her mother said. That night she called an old boyfriend, but he did not pick up. Then she disappeared.

Melissa Barthelemy's teenage sister, Amanda, was preparing to fly to New York from Buffalo and visit with her sister, but the trip was called off because the family could not reach Melissa. Concerned, the Barthelemys pleaded with the New York police to help find her.

Then Amanda began to receive calls, about one each week, from her missing sister's cellphone. The voice on the other end was calm and bland, and never yelled or laughed, her mother said.

Lynn Barthelemy would not say what was said in those calls. She said the authorities told her not to disclose details so that they could use that information, which they believe only the killer would know, to weed out false confessions.

The family's lawyer, Steven M. Cohen of Buffalo, said the caller had made remarks that were “disparaging of the sister, because of her lifestyle.”

“We can't for certain make the leap that the person who called the sister was the killer, although I believe that to be the case,” Mr. Cohen said. “If you accept it was the killer calling, he certainly had feelings of anger towards prostitutes.”

Lynn Barthelemy said detectives had told her they rushed to several locations during the calls, which never lasted more than three minutes, but were unable to identify a suspect.

In one instance, the police learned that Melissa Barthelemy's phone had been turned on near Massapequa, on Long Island, and that someone had gained access to her voice mail, the victim's mother said, but that happened only once.

The caller did not ever say that Ms. Barthelemy was dead or suggest that she was alive, Lynn Barthelemy said.

“He kept us hopeful,” she said.

She still wonders what prompted the calls. It was as if he was “trying to finalize things,” she said.

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NYPD Denies Cops Are Suspects In Long Island Serial Killer Case
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/16/long-island-serial-killer-nypd_n_862417.html

The New York Police Department is denying that two of its cops are suspects in the Long Island serial killings.

Ten sets of human remains, including four women identified as call girls, have been found along an isolated stretch of Jones Beach Island since December.

On Sunday, the New York Post reported that a current and a former New York City policeman who had both gotten into hot water for soliciting prostitutes while on the job were being eyed in the murders.

The ex-cop resigned in the 1990s when his bosses learned he was paying for sex when he was supposed to be fighting crime.

The other policeman is still on the force, but was reassigned to a desk job after he was arrested in a sting operation for allegedly assaulting a prostitute. No charges were brought against him however.

NYPD brass denied the New York Post report.

"No NYPD officer has been identified as a suspect," NYPD spokesman Paul Browne told Newsday. "I have no information that an individual who retired 20 years ago is a suspect either."

It was also reported today that an unnamed NYPD officer was one of the last people to contact one of the victims before she died. Maureen Brainard-Barnes, a Connecticut call girl who disappeared from Manhattan in 2007, was contacted by a cop living on Staten Island. The details of their conversation are unknown.

Investigators believe there could be as many as four killers responsible for the slayings.

In a psychological sketch of the possible killer, The New York Times reported last month that some investigators think the murderer might have a law enforcement background.

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Re: New York Serial Killer
Posted by: ProVallone ()
Date: May 17, 2011 01:48PM

I hate the waste of good hookers.

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Re: New York Serial Killer
Posted by: tomahawk ()
Date: May 17, 2011 01:55PM

If he were a real-life Dexter he would only kill other serial killers.

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Re: New York Serial Killer
Posted by: 6X ()
Date: May 17, 2011 02:11PM

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7557343.html

Head found belonged to a woman from Va. area.
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Re: New York Serial Killer
Posted by: ProVallone ()
Date: May 17, 2011 03:13PM

"hey baby, how about a little head...whoops!"

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Re: New York Serial Killer
Posted by: Dr. Fuzzyballs ()
Date: May 17, 2011 04:48PM

Here's some more...

DA: At least 2 killers behind NY beach victims
By FRANK ELTMAN Associated Press © 2011 The Associated Press
May 9, 2011, 4:36PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7557343.html#ixzz1Me2fPnVj


HAUPPAUGE, N.Y. — At least two killers dumped body parts along a remote beachfront highway, and remains discovered in recent months include the heads and limbs of two women whose torsos were found years ago in another town, a prosecutor said Monday.

Authorities also identified another victim, a prostitute, as being among the 10 sets of human remains discovered since December along Ocean Parkway, a popular highway near Jones Beach.

Investigators looking into the remains had theorized that they were on the trail of a serial killer, but now appear to be zeroing in on another possibility: that the remote stretch of highway is an inviting dumping ground for those trying to hide bodies.

Of the 10 sets of remains, eight were found in Suffolk County and two in neighboring Nassau County.

Authorities said the remains found in Suffolk include four women whose deaths appear to be connected, all of them prostitutes who had booked clients on the Internet; the two women whose dismembered remains were scattered along the highway and on eastern Long Island; an Asian man whose killing appears unconnected to the women's deaths; and a toddler whose cause of death is unknown.

"It is clear that the area in and around Gilgo Beach has been used to discard human remains for some period of time," Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota said. "As distasteful and disturbing as that is, there is no evidence that all of these remains are the work of a single killer."

The head, hands and forearm of 20-year-old Jessica Taylor, who worked as a prostitute in Washington, D.C., and in New York City, were among the remains found in March, Spota revealed Monday. Her dismembered body had been found in July 2003 in Manorville, a remote area near the eastern end of the Long Island Expressway and about 45 miles from where the rest of her body was found.

Authorities also located partial remains, including her head and right foot, of a second woman in Suffolk County in April. Her torso had been found near the expressway in Manorville in November 2000. She has not been identified.

Spota said detectives believe the deaths of those two women are related to each other, but not to the discovery of four women's bodies found in December along Ocean Parkway.

Authorities also said they had tentatively identified the other two bodies, and indicated those deaths may be unrelated to either the prostitutes found in December or the two women whose remains were scattered.

One of the bodies is that of an Asian man in his late teens or early 20s. His death has been ruled a homicide. Spota would only say that his remains had likely been on Ocean Parkway for several years.

The other remains were that of a female toddler between 18 and 24 months old. Spota said it was not clear how the child had died. Police have yet to even classify the child's death as a homicide.

Officials in neighboring Nassau County are endeavoring to identify the two sets of remains found in their jurisdiction along Ocean Parkway. A police spokesman said Monday there were no new developments.

Authorities still have not identified a suspect connected to any of the remains.

The first of the victims was found almost by accident in December, when a police officer and cadaver dog were searching for a missing New Jersey prostitute last seen in a beach community along Ocean Parkway a year ago. That woman, Shannan Gilbert, has yet to be found.

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Re: New York Serial Killer
Posted by: Head in a Jar ()
Date: May 17, 2011 04:52PM

Can't the family just put her head in a jar?
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Re: New York Serial Killer
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: May 17, 2011 04:58PM

a real pro doesnt take the bodies, they just remove all the evidence connecting them to the body.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: New York Serial Killer
Posted by: Inspector Fuzz ()
Date: July 01, 2011 10:22AM

Police raise reward in Long Island serial killer caseBy Julia Talanova, CNN
June 16, 2011 6:05 p.m. EDT
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/06/16/new.york.bodies/index.html

New York (CNN) -- Suffolk County Police have upped the ante in their search for a killer or killers who apparently dumped their victims along a remote stretch of beach in Long Island, New York.

The reward for information leading to an arrest -- once topping out at $5,000 -- was raised five-fold, according to a police statement Thursday.

The $25,000 reward would be the largest offered in Suffolk County history, in an apparent bid to fill out a possible serial killer case that some fear has gone cold.

"We're hoping the increased reward money will encourage somebody to come forward by calling the police in respect to the families and to (the) victims," Lt. Robert Donohue said.

At least 10 sets of human remains have been found in Long Island's Nassau and Suffolk counties since December.

The woman who originally prompted the searches -- 23-year-old Shannan Gilbert -- remains missing, and police say they have sifted through more than 1,000 tips related to the case.

The New Jersey woman was last seen in May 2010 at a private party at a home in the Oak Beach community.

"I am hopeful that the increased reward will provide critical information to help bring those responsible to justice," Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said.

Like the four victims who were found in December and have since been identified, Gilbert advertised prostitution services on websites like Craigslist.

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Re: New York Serial Killer
Posted by: More Info ()
Date: July 01, 2011 10:39AM

An official says four new sets of human remains discovered on a Lond Island beach aren't linked to a serial killer.



Official: 4 sets of Long Island remains aren't linked to serial killerBy the CNN Wire Staff
May 9, 2011 6:31 p.m. EDT
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/09/new.york.bodies/index.html

(CNN) -- The four sets of human remains most recently discovered on a Long Island beach don't appear to be related to four others discovered nearby that have been linked to a suspected serial killer, the Suffolk County district attorney said Monday.

The evidence suggests that perhaps two other killers dumped bodies along Ocean Parkway in Gilgo Beach, about 40 miles east of New York City. But they don't shed any light on the investigation into the person or people who authorities believe killed at least four sex workers whose bodies were found last December.

"This investigation is not an episode of 'CSI' or 'Criminal Minds' that is going to be solved in a one-hour period," District Attorney Thomas Spota said of the serial killer probe. "Most likely, it ... is going to take a very long period of time to complete."

The four latest sets of remains were found March 29 and April 4. Homicide cases are now open based on three of the four latest discoveries, according to the district attorney.

The first set of newly discovered remains include the head, hands and forearms of a woman Spota identified as Jessica Taylor. The rest of her body had been found in 2003 in Manorville, a community about 45 miles east on Long Island.

Like the four victims found last year, Taylor was a prostitute, the district attorney said. She had been working in Washington and had come up to New York City for a few days before going missing. Spota said that, despite extensive interviews, there were no suspects in her death and the case went cold -- until now.

More body parts -- a head, hands and a right foot -- were found slightly farther east along the parkway. While no name has been attached to them, Spota said they match with a body found in 2000, also in Manorville.

Both these two women's alleged killer or killers "went to extraordinary lengths to prevent the victims from being identified," said the district attorney, pointing to efforts to hide a tattoo on Taylor as an example. "This is clearly not so with any of the other remains."

The only set among those recently discovered that didn't show any signs of trauma is "the full skeletal remains" of what is thought to be a female toddler, according to Spota. This unidentified child, who was probably between 18 and 24 months old when she died, was wrapped in a blanket and deposited in the same stretch along the parkway. The county medical examiner has yet to indicate a cause of death in the girl's case, which isn't now considered a homicide.

The last of the recently discovered bodies was an unidentified male, thought to be Asian and in his late teens or early 20s. Spota said the medical examiner's office determined that he'd been dead for "years," and his skeleton shows "evidence of trauma, but the cause of death is radically different from all the other remains."

"What is now very clear is that the area in and around Gilgo Beach has been used to discard human remains for some period of time," Spota said. "But there is no evidence that all these remains are the result of a single killer."

Previously, Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said that authorities believed one or more person was most likely responsible for the deaths of four women whose remains were found within a quarter-mile of each other in that same area last winter.

More still unidentified remains have been found as part of the serial killer investigation in nearby Nassau County. But police have yet to link those to any other case.

All the while, the woman who originally prompted the searches -- 23-year-old Shannan Gilbert -- remains missing.

The New Jersey woman was last seen in May 2010 while attending a private party at a home in the Oak Beach community. Like the four victims who were found in December and have been identified, Gilbert had advertised prostitution services on Websites such as Craigslist.

Dormer told reporters Monday that authorities haven't given up their search for her.

"We're still concerned about the disappearance of Shannan Gilbert," the police commissioner said. "We're going to continue our efforts to find her ... both for our investigation and for her family."

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Re: New York Serial Killer
Posted by: Lance Fender ()
Date: October 27, 2011 09:10PM

GQ Magazine in the UK ran this article about the Long Island Serial Killer Case (see attached). The article is informative yet it also contains this entertaining twist;

Remember the movie "Dinner For Schmucks" where the corporate execs are bring these people who they know are idiots together for a dinner party where the idiots have no clue they are being made fun of? Well this GQ magazine article features real life "Idiots" who agreed to be interviewed for the article because they thought that GQ seriously was interested in their so called "Expertise".

I don't know which idiot I find to be the most pathetic. It's either the two self-declared superheroes "Zero" and "Shade" in their full body uniforms or the poor weasel amateur detective from Long Island named Brendan Murphy who is driving around the beach in his bullet proof van spying on the residents with the van's built in periscope!!!!

These idiots are really entertaining. Sick part is, not one of them realized that they were being made a mockery of when they agreed to the interviews and photo shoots??
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Re: New York Serial Killer
Posted by: zach ()
Date: November 11, 2016 08:35PM

When I had read up on the Long Island Serial Murder case, and followed up with the most recent info on it, got me to think that if some of the victims bodies found not in a similar manner as the others, what crossed my mind is perhaps there is a possibility that they're dealing with a Folie A Deux. I'm not thinking of this as the classic psychiatric definition of having two people sharing the same exact delusion, I'm thinking of the Folie A Deux phenomenon definition as a pair of serial killers working alongside each other. Therefore, are a team. In this serial murder case, both of the offenders responsible are both mentally depraved. Both of them could probably be sharing one of the same type of psychological disorder.


However, the other possibility is perhaps if the two are not a pair working side by side like a team committing these atrocities, then perhaps they knew each other and share the same exact motive or motives in their crimes.Take for instance, Henry Lee Lucas and Otis Toole. Both of these killers did commit several or more murders together and knew each other, sharing the same twisted fantasy but eventually they had both went about their ways separately committing more crimes all by themselves without doing it as a team as they did before. I hope this case gets solved, or that there would be a new lead in this one for the authorities to investigate.

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