Just imagine, if you wrote Dianetics, wrote the novel Battlefield Earth, went through fear, anguish, and torment, were beaten and ridiculed, scorned by suppressive people, and left to die with less than $200 million in your Bahamian banks accounts.

And someone just says "Screw you, L Ron I don't need you". I can't believe anyone could deny Hubbard. What he did for us all. He is still alive.



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L. Ron Hubbard is the true embodiment of God. All others are just predenders to the throne.

L Ron Hubbard was a cult leader. The church of Scientology meets all definitions and requirements of a cult organization.

This is a long read but very informative.

http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/

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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"

This is a cease and desist notice that you are committing libel against the Church of Scientology and its founder L. Ron Hubbard. Please remove all derogatory comments regarding the church and the late Mr. Hubbard. The church takes these actions seriously and will not hesitate to use all legal means necessary to ensure their removal.

Thank you.

Jonathan W. Lubell Wrote:
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> This is a cease and desist notice that you are
> committing libel against the Church of Scientology
> and its founder L. Ron Hubbard. Please remove all
> derogatory comments regarding the church and the
> late Mr. Hubbard. The church takes these actions
> seriously and will not hesitate to use all legal
> means necessary to ensure their removal.
>
> Thank you.




Derogatory comments are protected under the 1st Amendment!



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Jonathan W. Lubell Wrote:
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> This is a cease and desist notice that you are
> committing libel against the Church of Scientology
> and its founder L. Ron Hubbard. Please remove all
> derogatory comments regarding the church and the
> late Mr. Hubbard. The church takes these actions
> seriously and will not hesitate to use all legal
> means necessary to ensure their removal.
>
> Thank you.

Bring us a letter on real atty letterhead. Until then, go blow John Travolta.

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Jonathan W. Lubell : Care to register with your NY law firms email address?

http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/library.php?t=Jonathan+W.+Lubell

http://www.xenu.net/

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/time-behar.html

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,972865,00.html

Dont sue me, sue Time magazine. OR walk around Clearwater and wait for Xenu. Please dont threaten the freedoms of the american people as the Dept. of Homeland Sevurity believes Cults are terroristic org.s Get it ORG... haha,

Dont tread on me, sic semper tyrannis

eesh Wrote:
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> Jonathan W. Lubell Wrote:
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> -----
> > This is a cease and desist notice that you are
> > committing libel against the Church of
> Scientology
> > and its founder L. Ron Hubbard. Please remove
> all
> > derogatory comments regarding the church and
> the
> > late Mr. Hubbard. The church takes these
> actions
> > seriously and will not hesitate to use all
> legal
> > means necessary to ensure their removal.
> >
> > Thank you.
>
>
>
>
> Derogatory comments are protected under the 1st
> Amendment!


Derogatory comments if true are protected. However, the comments on this thread are blatent lies and therefore are not protected by the First Amendment.

JBass Wrote:
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> Jonathan W. Lubell : Care to register with your NY
> law firms email address?
>
> http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/library.php?t=J
> onathan+W.+Lubell


As you have ascertained my authenticity and verifiable interest in matters relating to the Church of Scientology, there is no need for me to register with my firm's address.

The comments on here are the ramblings of uneducated idiots. Please prove some authenticity as the lawyer for the church or I will be forced to call his office and inform him he is being impersonated.

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> The comments on here are the ramblings of
> uneducated idiots. Please prove some authenticity
> as the lawyer for the church or I will be forced
> to call his office and inform him he is being
> impersonated.

I look forward to our conversation, Mr. Bass.

How does one libel a dead person?

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Also, Please explain Libel. I thought this only applied to publications, magazines, and distributed materials?

Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
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> How does one libel a dead person?


Mother Hubbard still lives as a giant evil corporation.

I don't think a real lawyer would argue on a message board, knowing it would just encourage people. I think a genuine Scientology lawyer would send a cease and desist to Cary.

Yes, but as an individual he is dead and how is he susceptible to libel?

You could say that Henry Ford used to molest little kids and used slave labor to build cars, but he is dead. He is inextracibly linked to the Ford Motor Co....

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"Cult sues Salesman for Libel"

I can see the headline now

Got me. Tom Cruise did not, in fact, electrocute Oprah.

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JBass Wrote:
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> Also, Please explain Libel. I thought this only
> applied to publications, magazines, and
> distributed materials?


I have neither the time nor the inclination to teach someone a course in libel, but siffice to say there are numerous instances of courts nad juries finding instances of libel within message boards.

You indicated you would be calling. I have an appointment at 4:30, but am free for the next 5 minutes if you would like to make introductions and chat briefly.

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> I don't think a real lawyer would argue on a
> message board, knowing it would just encourage
> people. I think a genuine Scientology lawyer would
> send a cease and desist to Cary.


Lawyers, real Lawyers, don't operate like that. JBass don't get all nervous and shit your pants. Most likely ITrade learned some new legalistic terms and is acting tough.

Jonathan W. Lubell Wrote:
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> JBass Wrote:
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> > Also, Please explain Libel. I thought this
> only
> > applied to publications, magazines, and
> > distributed materials?
>
>
> I have neither the time nor the inclination to
> teach someone a course in libel, but siffice to
> say there are numerous instances of courts nad
> juries finding instances of libel within message
> boards.
>

And to dead people?

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eesh Wrote:
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> I don't think a real lawyer would argue on a
> message board, knowing it would just encourage
> people. I think a genuine Scientology lawyer would
> send a cease and desist to Cary.

Obviously. However, before the mail can reach Fairfax, what is the quickest way to protect the Church of Scientology's interest in this matter.

Thanks Of course, Im not worried.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/547856.html

Jonathan W. Lubell Wrote:
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> JBass Wrote:
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> > Also, Please explain Libel. I thought this
> only
> > applied to publications, magazines, and
> > distributed materials?
>
>
> I have neither the time nor the inclination to
> teach someone a course in libel, but siffice to
> say there are numerous instances of courts nad
> juries finding instances of libel within message
> boards.
>
> You indicated you would be calling. I have an
> appointment at 4:30, but am free for the next 5
> minutes if you would like to make introductions
> and chat briefly.


You don't sound like someone that has been through law school.

Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
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> Jonathan W. Lubell Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > JBass Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Also, Please explain Libel. I thought this
> > only
> > > applied to publications, magazines, and
> > > distributed materials?
> >
> >
> > I have neither the time nor the inclination to
> > teach someone a course in libel, but siffice to
> > say there are numerous instances of courts nad
> > juries finding instances of libel within
> message
> > boards.
> >
>
> And to dead people?

The Church is an existing organization capable of being libeled. Again, it is not my intention to be forced to educate people on the law of libel and defamation.

siffice it to say...

courts nad juries...

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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"

I just called, they have not heard from you in "years" no forwarding info.

Jonathan W Lubell Attorney
750 Lexington Avenue
New York, NY 10022-1200 map
New York, NY Metro Area
Phone: (212) 735-8600

Jonathan W. Lubell Wrote:
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> Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
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> > Jonathan W. Lubell Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > JBass Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Also, Please explain Libel. I thought this
> > > only
> > > > applied to publications, magazines, and
> > > > distributed materials?
> > >
> > >
> > > I have neither the time nor the inclination
> to
> > > teach someone a course in libel, but siffice
> to
> > > say there are numerous instances of courts
> nad
> > > juries finding instances of libel within
> > message
> > > boards.
> > >
> >
> > And to dead people?
>
> The Church is an existing organization capable of
> being libeled. Again, it is not my intention to
> be forced to educate people on the law of libel
> and defamation.

The "Church", possibly, but the question is to L. Ron - as a individual who is deceased.

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JBass Wrote:
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> Also, Please explain Libel. I thought this only
> applied to publications, magazines, and
> distributed materials?


Posting on an internet discussion board would constitute a "publication" for purposes of defamation.

The person posting as "Jonathan W. Lubell" is obviously not, however, a real or "legal" attorney, unlike myself.


Disclaimer: The legal information contained in this post is not legal advice and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date.

Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
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> siffice it to say...
>
> courts nad juries...


Yes, I am 79 and make typographical errors. If you are capable of zealously representing clients when you reach my age, I would be surprised.

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Legal Attorney: Thank you for the information. I will do more research to make myself informed on these decisions.

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My bar dues are in the mail, but I am fairly certain that I still appear in the online directory. Of course, if you knew how to type in a first name, you might be able to find what you are looking for.

Jonathan W. Lubell Wrote:
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I would be surprised if you have reached your age!

But the Church of Scientology, and the Church of Christ Scientists, and the Church of What's Happenin' Now all ROCK!!!!!!!

This is a nail-biting read on the definition of religion in international law

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/hrj/iss16/gunn.shtml#fnB28

Oh wait, I forgot to mention the Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints, ROCKS also,

might as well throw in Jehova's Witnesses, and The 7th Day Adventist, and why not, the Catholic Church, well they all ROCK as well.

Might as well add Westboro Baptist Church as one that ROCKS also!

L.Ron Hubbard he went to the cupboard
to get his poor doggy a bone
but when he got there
the cupboard was bare,
so he went and created some kind of new bullshit religion.

McLean Bible Church, anyone?