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Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: scholar32 ()
Date: January 11, 2011 05:32PM

This is a legitamet question, are any portraits hung representing a class of designation.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: January 11, 2011 05:49PM

It's been a while since I've been to either institution, but I'm certain that West Point has some.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: ShastaGreen ()
Date: January 11, 2011 07:19PM

Yes, West Point does. In fact, I believe there is a barracks named after R.E. Lee.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Virginian ()
Date: January 11, 2011 07:24PM

Since Confederate generals literally are traitors, it seems somewhat wrong that they would be so officially honored, Lee Hisself included.

But stranger things have happened, I guess.

Here's an interesting article on just this subject at West Point: http://www.philipstown.info/ptwp/?p=3123

I couldn't find anything equivalent for Annapolis, though the first superintendant of the academy actually joined the confederacy! His portrait must be SOMEWHERE there, huh?

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Conie ()
Date: January 11, 2011 07:33PM

scholar32 Wrote:
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> This is a legitamet question, are any portraits
> hung representing a class of designation.


this is a "legitemet" answer.

GTFO

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: BrandonVA ()
Date: January 11, 2011 07:43PM

"Around 1890, the academy did complete a magnificent monument to Union dead, inscribing 2,230 names on it. However, cadets from the former Confederacy promptly dubbed it “the monument to southern marksmanship,†he recalled."

LOL

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: 6X ()
Date: January 11, 2011 08:20PM

Looks like "Lee" may have a portrait at West Point. Not sure which one, Robert E. Lee or his nephew Fitzhugh Lee. We might need Chuck on is one, or my friend Rudy.
Attachments:
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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: dika-dika ()
Date: January 11, 2011 08:35PM

Virginian Wrote:
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> Since Confederate generals literally are traitors,
> it seems somewhat wrong that they would be so
> officially honored, Lee Hisself included.
>
> But stranger things have happened, I guess.
>
> Here's an interesting article on just this subject
> at West Point:
> http://www.philipstown.info/ptwp/?p=3123
>
> I couldn't find anything equivalent for Annapolis,
> though the first superintendant of the academy
> actually joined the confederacy! His portrait must
> be SOMEWHERE there, huh?

Considered traitor, why are so many US Army posts today named after Confedrate Generals, one for example FT Hood Tx (John Bell Hood). Why wasn't any confederate general tried for treason? Why wasn't Jefferson Davis tried for treason? So what are your literal facts to support your assertion that" Confederate generals literally are traitors". Sure Virginian...transplant from somewhere else.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Virginian ()
Date: January 11, 2011 08:40PM

They mentioned Grant defeating him so I'd imagine THE Lee.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Virginian ()
Date: January 11, 2011 08:43PM


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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: 6X ()
Date: January 11, 2011 08:55PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitzhugh_Lee
He was born in Fairfax Co.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: January 11, 2011 09:10PM

Fort AP Hill......

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: tomahawk ()
Date: January 12, 2011 01:00AM

Virginian Wrote:
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> Since Confederate generals literally are traitors,
> it seems somewhat wrong that they would be so
> officially honored, Lee Hisself included.
>
> But stranger things have happened, I guess.
>
> Here's an interesting article on just this subject
> at West Point:
> http://www.philipstown.info/ptwp/?p=3123
>
> I couldn't find anything equivalent for Annapolis,
> though the first superintendant of the academy
> actually joined the confederacy! His portrait must
> be SOMEWHERE there, huh?


Well, since George Washington was a traitor to his king, it seems odd that he gets a city, a monument, a state, a dollar bill, and a nuclear aircraft carrier.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: dika-dika ()
Date: January 12, 2011 04:21AM

Some more, Ft Lee Va and Ft Polk La. Seem like quite a few confederate generals did well after the civil war. Dr Mudd didn't do so well, your name is mud.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Virginian ()
Date: January 12, 2011 06:41AM

> Well, since George Washington was a traitor to his king, it seems odd that he
> gets a city, a monument, a state, a dollar bill, and a nuclear aircraft carrier.

I think we should assume alcohol or drugs clouded your logic there.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: ShastaGreen ()
Date: January 12, 2011 08:16AM

Virginian Wrote:
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> > Well, since George Washington was a traitor to
> his king, it seems odd that he
> > gets a city, a monument, a state, a dollar bill,
> and a nuclear aircraft carrier.
>
> I think we should assume alcohol or drugs clouded
> your logic there.

I'd be curious to see how your logic is coherent and the other poster's isn't. The Confederates were wrong, no dount, but it's more complicated than simply saying they were traitors. GW and the rest were, technically speaking, also traitors. So for that matter was the Constitutional Convention, which initially met in secret for that very reason. I think the point here, Virginian, is that context matters a lot. It's not a black and white issue and such matters are often decided by conflict, not definitions in Merriam Websters.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: January 12, 2011 09:00AM

Its interesting when you think about it. In most international or intranational wars, there is almost always a "spoils to the victors" mentality which usually includes a series of trials, executions, and reparations. Cromwell and his supporters were publicly executed; the German high command was tried at Nurenburg; the Japanese military command faced a similar fate; Saddam wound up on the wrong end of a noose.

By contrast, Jefferson Davis was imprisoned for two years, was released on bond, and was never tried for any crime. R.E. Lee wasn't even jailed, and spent the last years of his live as a college president.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: ShastaGreen ()
Date: January 12, 2011 09:03AM

Cromwell wasn't executed, but otherwise I get your point.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: January 12, 2011 09:15AM

Well, he was posthumously executed....

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 12, 2011 09:15AM

dika-dika Wrote:
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> Some more, Ft Lee Va and Ft Polk La. Seem like
> quite a few confederate generals did well after
> the civil war. Dr Mudd didn't do so well, your
> name is mud.





Fort Pickett and Fort Bragg too. There were some National Guard units in South Carolina that still used the Confederate Flag in the unit insignia.

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: pseudo scholar ()
Date: January 12, 2011 11:42AM

I don't know I think it might offend some Afro-Americans who are students there. And with righteous cause. It is a sensitive subject. I mean what does one do, honour what can be seen or debated as treason. Sure the south saw this as a just cause. However, it is the victors that write history.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: williamb ()
Date: January 12, 2011 12:11PM

If they are they should be posted over the phrase, "Wanted For....".

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Stonewall Jackson ()
Date: January 12, 2011 02:36PM

Seeing that the United States are "free and independent States", several States acted upon that freedom and withdrew from the Union. I am not sure how that would make anyone a "traitor".

Have you ever taken an American History course? IF you have, either you weren't paying attention or our schools have really gone to hell.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Virginian ()
Date: January 12, 2011 02:49PM

Did you read the linked article I went to the trouble to find and post a link to wy up there near the top?

Sheesh.

What a bunch of know-nothings.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Pauline E. ()
Date: January 12, 2011 03:21PM

After watching the special on R.E. Lee on PBS, the American Experience. If I was a black cadet at Westpoint, I refuse under general principles to be assigned to that barracks. If in fact there is a barracks named after him. Just because you think there is doing make it a reality.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Sneaky Pete ()
Date: January 12, 2011 03:31PM

"Just because you think there is doing make it a reality."

What???

BTW if you refuse to sleep in a barracks because you don't agree with someones past history you might want to avoid West Point. Many areas are named for presidents that were slave holders. Others are named for officers that were involved in the extermination of American Indians.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: jimpo ()
Date: January 12, 2011 03:41PM

at the time being a slave holder was a matter of economics, it was good business strategy. Defending that culture and way of life was another matter which is what Lee was all about. Many southern generals kept their allegence to the Union, out of a high moral sense of duty, they should be honored accordingly.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: 6X ()
Date: January 12, 2011 03:43PM

General Robert E. Lee
Attachments:
general-robert-e-lee-linda-eades-blackburn.jpg

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Mr. Helpman ()
Date: January 12, 2011 05:26PM

Seriously, would you buy a used car from that guy??

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: January 12, 2011 05:27PM

If you were in 1866, you might.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: dika-dika ()
Date: January 12, 2011 07:29PM




Well they did go after one confederate

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Sgt Tully ()
Date: January 14, 2011 02:56PM

Logically I don't think their should be any, nothing personal, its just a matter of principle. However, that being said I see no reason why the VMI,should not display in pride portraits of our distinguised Generals and Officers who fought in the Civil war, as long as they post with equal pride, portraits of Union and Army of the Potomac veterans.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: saber of knowledge ()
Date: January 14, 2011 06:43PM

dika-dika Wrote:
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>
> Considered traitor, why are so many US Army posts
> today named after Confedrate Generals, one for
> example FT Hood Tx (John Bell Hood). Why wasn't
> any confederate general tried for treason? Why
> wasn't Jefferson Davis tried for treason? So what
> are your literal facts to support your assertion
> that" Confederate generals literally are
> traitors". Sure Virginian...transplant from
> somewhere else.
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No rebel generals were tried out of the altruistic character possessed by that great American President Lincoln. Hell, he freed the slaves doesn't that reveal what a kind and humane man he was. As for Davis history tells us he hid,(some say in women's garb, but I doubt that) otherwise you can bet your life he would have been tried.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: tomahawk ()
Date: January 14, 2011 07:27PM

saber of knowledge Wrote:
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> No rebel generals were tried out of the altruistic
> character possessed by that great American
> President Lincoln.

Lincoln was dead when the war ended. And Lincoln was responsible for the deaths of thousands of American civilians in the south. Presidents are ranked by how many people they killed; since Lincoln killed more Americans than any other president he is the greatest.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Bill N ()
Date: January 14, 2011 09:07PM

No idea about Annapolis. My eldest spent a couple of weeks at the USMA, and of course they gave them a tour. At one point someone asked if they had a statue of Lee there, since he had been commandant. After a brief hesitation the cadet said "no".

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: carson ()
Date: January 15, 2011 11:09AM

Very Interesting,

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: straight ()
Date: January 15, 2011 05:20PM

Virginian Wrote:
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> > Well, since George Washington was a traitor to
> his king, it seems odd that he
>
> and a nuclear aircraft carrier.
>____________________________________________________________________________________ Washington would have been a traitor if and only if England would have won the war. Otherwise the correct term is Patriot. I'm sure you agree.
>

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Georgian ()
Date: January 20, 2012 05:00AM

@ saber of knowlege
You really should do a bit of homework before "betting your life". Davis was captured near Irwinville GA on May 10, 1865, one month to the day after Lee surrended at Appomattox. He spent 2 years in jail, but charges were dropped and he never was tried for treason.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Date: January 20, 2012 06:38AM

Just because the decision was made not to try them for treason doesn't mean they weren't traitors. It's the same reason the Union let Confederate soldiers keep their weapons after the surrender. No point in adding insult to injury.

But if quitting your country, creating your own country and killing members of the army you once belonged to doesn't count as treason, what the fuck does?

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Date: January 20, 2012 06:40AM

tomahawk Wrote:
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> saber of knowledge Wrote:
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> -----
> > No rebel generals were tried out of the
> altruistic
> > character possessed by that great American
> > President Lincoln.
>
> Lincoln was dead when the war ended. And Lincoln
> was responsible for the deaths of thousands of
> American civilians in the south. Presidents are
> ranked by how many people they killed; since
> Lincoln killed more Americans than any other
> president he is the greatest.

The Confederates created a hostile foreign country and Lincoln treated it as such.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Vexxxed ()
Date: January 20, 2012 07:36AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> The Confederates recreated this country as they saw was appropriate considering they were being invaded by the Union Army.

> and Lincoln treated it as such by crushing the self-governing spirit under his boot after being declined help by the only person to ever attend West Point and not receive a single demerit.


Fixed it for you.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: looking to be offended in any way ()
Date: January 20, 2012 09:24AM

Pauline E. Wrote:
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> After watching the special on R.E. Lee on PBS, the
> American Experience. If I was a black cadet at
> Westpoint, I refuse under general principles to be
> assigned to that barracks. If in fact there is a
> barracks named after him. Just because you think
> there is doing make it a reality.


How would you feel if you were assigned to a barracks named after George Washington or Thomas Jefferson both slave holders?
Stop looking for new ways to be offended. BTW most major roadss on the west end of Alexandria are named for Confederat Generals. Can we assume you will take a detour rather than drive on streets named after "traitors".

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Date: January 20, 2012 09:54AM

Vexxxed Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> > The Confederates recreated this country as they
> saw was appropriate considering they were being
> invaded by the Union Army.
>

The United States responded to the CSA's attack on US soldiers stationed at a US military installation (that belonged to the taxpayers of the United States).

> > and Lincoln treated it as such by crushing the
> self-governing spirit under his boot after being
> declined help by the only person to ever attend
> West Point and not receive a single demerit.
>
>

Who got his ass kicked by a drunk who finished near the bottom of his class.

> Fixed it for you.


The CSA apologists have been trying to "fix it" for 150 years. Hasn't worked yet, but keep it up.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Kopertd ()
Date: January 20, 2012 12:09PM

I think there is a memorial at West Point Academy dedicated to the Confederate Generals or Officers who attended the university. A lot of those Officers distinguished themselves in battles (Indian, Mexican) prior to the civil War. Why should that service be forgotten?

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: ThePack.Leader ()
Date: January 20, 2012 02:25PM

I do believe General Meade Skelton's portrait hangs at West Point

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Amazing PackLeader ()
Date: January 20, 2012 02:29PM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> It's been a while since I've been to either
> institution, but I'm certain that West Point has
> some.


Fun fact: Although many years ago, ThePackLeader attended both West Point and the Naval Academy, AT THE SAME TIME!

He never ceases to amaze.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Jerry..Rubin ()
Date: January 20, 2012 02:38PM

Virginian Wrote:
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> Since Confederate generals literally are traitors,
> it seems somewhat wrong that they would be so
> officially honored, Lee Hisself included.
>
> But stranger things have happened, I guess.
>
> Here's an interesting article on just this subject
> at West Point:
> http://www.philipstown.info/ptwp/?p=3123
>
> I couldn't find anything equivalent for Annapolis,
> though the first superintendant of the academy
> actually joined the confederacy! His portrait must
> be SOMEWHERE there, huh?


Vince alert!!!

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: he wasnt a racist but nice try ()
Date: January 20, 2012 02:39PM

Pauline E. Wrote:
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> After watching the special on R.E. Lee on PBS, the
> American Experience. If I was a black cadet at
> Westpoint, I refuse under general principles to be
> assigned to that barracks. If in fact there is a
> barracks named after him. Just because you think
> there is doing make it a reality.


West point cadets have a higher intelligence level than this statement demonstrates which makes it a non issue.

Also youre live would be made as miserable as possible and possibly kicked out for refusing that.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Troop ()
Date: January 20, 2012 02:54PM

Traitors? Depends on where you stand. Why is Section 16 of the Arlington National Cemetary devoted to Confederates? The markers are pointed instead of rounded. Even wives of the Confederate honored dead at the ANC are interred with their husbands.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Hermit ()
Date: January 20, 2012 03:26PM

looking to be offended in any way Wrote:
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> Pauline E. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > After watching the special on R.E. Lee on PBS,
> the
> > American Experience. If I was a black cadet at
> > Westpoint, I refuse under general principles to
> be
> > assigned to that barracks. If in fact there is
> a
> > barracks named after him. Just because you
> think
> > there is doing make it a reality.
>
>
> How would you feel if you were assigned to a
> barracks named after George Washington or Thomas
> Jefferson both slave holders?
> Stop looking for new ways to be offended. BTW most
> major roadss on the west end of Alexandria are
> named for Confederat Generals. Can we assume you
> will take a detour rather than drive on streets
> named after "traitors".

Don't spend anymore $1 bills. How many other slaveholders portraits
on our currency? Stay off the GW Parkway, don't go to GWU, or
TJ HS. :)

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Stephen Douglas ()
Date: January 20, 2012 03:49PM

On "Presidents Day",which is actually George and Lincoln's birthdays combined, and you have it as a paid Holiday, give half of that day's wages to the NAACP or some Afro-American school. Just tell them I don't want the money on general priciples, Washington's birthday half that is.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: all of it ()
Date: January 20, 2012 04:50PM

Stephen Douglas Wrote:
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> On "Presidents Day",which is actually George and
> Lincoln's birthdays combined, and you have it as a
> paid Holiday, give half of that day's wages to the
> NAACP or some Afro-American school. Just tell
> them I don't want the money on general priciples,
> Washington's birthday half that is.


Actually if he was taking a principled stand he should give all of that days wages away and insist on working at the office as well.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Abel ()
Date: January 20, 2012 04:56PM

all of it Wrote:
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> Stephen Douglas Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > On "Presidents Day",which is actually George
> and
> > Lincoln's birthdays combined, and you have it as
> a
> > paid Holiday, give half of that day's wages to
> the
> > NAACP or some Afro-American school. Just tell
> > them I don't want the money on general
> priciples,
> > Washington's birthday half that is.
>
>
> Actually if he was taking a principled stand he
> should give all of that days wages away and insist
> on working at the office as well.


Talk's cheap, when it comes to the wallet that's where these guys "principled stand"...............STOPS!!

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: After that ()
Date: January 20, 2012 05:09PM

Amazing PackLeader Wrote:
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> ThePackLeader Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's been a while since I've been to either
> > institution, but I'm certain that West Point
> has
> > some.
>
>
> Fun fact: Although many years ago, ThePackLeader
> attended both West Point and the Naval Academy, AT
> THE SAME TIME!
>
> He never ceases to amaze.


Then went on to teach Maritime Law at the US Coast Guard Academy in New London CT.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: all of it ()
Date: January 20, 2012 05:44PM

Abel Wrote:
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> all of it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Stephen Douglas Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > On "Presidents Day",which is actually George
> > and
> > > Lincoln's birthdays combined, and you have it
> as
> > a
> > > paid Holiday, give half of that day's wages
> to
> > the
> > > NAACP or some Afro-American school. Just
> tell
> > > them I don't want the money on general
> > priciples,
> > > Washington's birthday half that is.
> >
> >
> > Actually if he was taking a principled stand he
> > should give all of that days wages away and
> insist
> > on working at the office as well.
>
>
> Talk's cheap, when it comes to the wallet that's
> where these guys "principled
> stand"...............STOPS!!


Exactly its just a bunch of internet grandstanding. If the guy that said he wouldnt stay in the Lee dorm at West Point was serious, West Point is better off without him there.

I do have to admit I would love to be there when he said no though just to watch what happens

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Adios ()
Date: January 20, 2012 05:52PM

all of it Wrote:
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> Abel Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > all of it Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Stephen Douglas Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > On "Presidents Day",which is actually
> George
> > > and
> > > > Lincoln's birthdays combined, and you have
> it
> > as
> > > a
> > > > paid Holiday, give half of that day's wages
> > to
> > > the
> > > > NAACP or some Afro-American school. Just
> > tell
> > > > them I don't want the money on general
> > > priciples,
> > > > Washington's birthday half that is.
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually if he was taking a principled stand
> he
> > > should give all of that days wages away and
> > insist
> > > on working at the office as well.
> >
> >
> > Talk's cheap, when it comes to the wallet
> that's
> > where these guys "principled
> > stand"...............STOPS!!
>
>
> Exactly its just a bunch of internet
> grandstanding. If the guy that said he wouldnt
> stay in the Lee dorm at West Point was serious,
> West Point is better off without him there.
>
> I do have to admit I would love to be there when
> he said no though just to watch what happens


He be thought of as a trouble maker and ditched. I mean take it to it's conclusion, he'd end up not wanting to be stationed at a Fort or a Base because it was named after Hood or Jackson. Where do you draw the line????

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: all of it ()
Date: January 20, 2012 06:41PM

Adios Wrote:

>
> He be thought of as a trouble maker and ditched.
> I mean take it to it's conclusion, he'd end up not
> wanting to be stationed at a Fort or a Base
> because it was named after Hood or Jackson. Where
> do you draw the line????


As he should be kicked out and billed for his time there. Its should be such a non issue that its not even funny. It was cute though they he thinks at West Point you have choices and arent expected to follow orders

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: shoot!!! ()
Date: January 20, 2012 07:39PM

all of it Wrote:
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> Adios Wrote:
>
> >
> > He be thought of as a trouble maker and ditched.
>
> > I mean take it to it's conclusion, he'd end up
> not
> > wanting to be stationed at a Fort or a Base
> > because it was named after Hood or Jackson.
> Where
> > do you draw the line????
>
>
> As he should be kicked out and billed for his time
> there. Its should be such a non issue that its
> not even funny. It was cute though they he thinks
> at West Point you have choices and arent expected
> to follow orders


West Point? He couldn't stay in as a lowly E-2, with that train of thought

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: all of it ()
Date: January 20, 2012 08:29PM

shoot!!! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> all of it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Adios Wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > He be thought of as a trouble maker and
> ditched.
> >
> > > I mean take it to it's conclusion, he'd end
> up
> > not
> > > wanting to be stationed at a Fort or a Base
> > > because it was named after Hood or Jackson.
> > Where
> > > do you draw the line????
> >
> >
> > As he should be kicked out and billed for his
> time
> > there. Its should be such a non issue that its
> > not even funny. It was cute though they he
> thinks
> > at West Point you have choices and arent
> expected
> > to follow orders
>
>
> West Point? He couldn't stay in as a lowly E-2,
> with that train of though

True but at West Point he would just be kicked out and sent a bill. As an E-2 hed be making a stop in Kansas on the way home first

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Arlingtonkid ()
Date: January 21, 2012 07:24PM

The largest Monunment at Arlington Cemetery is the Confederate Monument. Lee is the only Cadet to make it through West Point without a single demerit.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: He's nuts ()
Date: January 21, 2012 07:40PM

all of it Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> shoot!!! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > all of it Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Adios Wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > He be thought of as a trouble maker and
> > ditched.
> > >
> > > > I mean take it to it's conclusion, he'd end
> > up
> > > not
> > > > wanting to be stationed at a Fort or a Base
> > > > because it was named after Hood or Jackson.
>
> > > Where
> > > > do you draw the line????
> > >
> > >
> > > As he should be kicked out and billed for his
> > time
> > > there. Its should be such a non issue that
> its
> > > not even funny. It was cute though they he
> > thinks
> > > at West Point you have choices and arent
> > expected
> > > to follow orders
> >
> >
> > West Point? He couldn't stay in as a lowly
> E-2,
> > with that train of though
>
> True but at West Point he would just be kicked out
> and sent a bill. As an E-2 hed be making a stop
> in Kansas on the way home first


Most guys/gals who go through an Academy (and are not weeded) out are of a different mindset. That would not even be an issue, most of them work hard to get there, they are not going to kick themselves in the ass like that fool.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: all of it ()
Date: January 21, 2012 07:54PM

He's nuts Wrote:

>
> Most guys/gals who go through an Academy (and are
> not weeded) out are of a different mindset. That
> would not even be an issue, most of them work hard
> to get there, they are not going to kick
> themselves in the ass like that fool.


I couldnt agree more which makes his comments even dumber. I really dont understand why people feel the need to grandstand on the internet.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Date: January 21, 2012 07:57PM

Arlingtonkid Wrote:
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> The largest Monunment at Arlington Cemetery is the
> Confederate Monument. Lee is the only Cadet to
> make it through West Point without a single
> demerit.


Actually, the largest monument is Arlington House, which used to be Robert E. Lee's home. No, he didn't receive a demerit from West Point. But life gave him quite a few after the war.

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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Got that right ()
Date: January 21, 2012 08:57PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Arlingtonkid Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The largest Monunment at Arlington Cemetery is
> the
> > Confederate Monument. Lee is the only Cadet to
> > make it through West Point without a single
> > demerit.
>
>
> Actually, the largest monument is Arlington House,
> which used to be Robert E. Lee's home. No, he
> didn't receive a demerit from West Point. But life
> gave him quite a few after the war.


Fast burner and showoff. Big shot, he should have kept his big fat mouth shut!!!! Should have went with the North, the winning side, he'd be a big hero today.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: all of it ()
Date: January 21, 2012 09:10PM

Got that right Wrote:

> Fast burner and showoff. Big shot, he should have
> kept his big fat mouth shut!!!! Should have went
> with the North, the winning side, he'd be a big
> hero today.


He was asked by both sides. He chose the south because he was from Virginia and back then state came before country.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Biggus Dickus ()
Date: January 21, 2012 10:08PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Arlingtonkid Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The largest Monunment at Arlington Cemetery is
> the
> > Confederate Monument. Lee is the only Cadet to
> > make it through West Point without a single
> > demerit.
>
>
> Actually, the largest monument is Arlington House,
> which used to be Robert E. Lee's home. No, he
> didn't receive a demerit from West Point. But life
> gave him quite a few after the war.

Quite a few whats?

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Date: May 07, 2012 10:14PM

I have never been to The U. S. Military Academy at West Point, I canmot think that a country which was not so shallow to name one of the largest U. S. Army bases..... Fort Bragg named after a West Point Graduate Braxton Bragg who was a general in the United States Army before the War Between the States, as we Virginians like to call it as there was nothing cival about it, nor the occupation which is euphamisticaly referred to as Reconstruction by those who write the history books, Hell, I did not know that anyone thought of General Robert E. Lee as anything but a hero, the same was true of Thomas (Stonewall) Jackson. It may intrest you to know that General Robert E. Lee son of Revolutionary war hero Harry Whitehorse Lee; was an instructor at West Point and his battle stratagies are still taught today. All of the officers who were in The War Between The States who graduated from West Point. were granteda full pardon except Robert E. Lee who filled out the same document comitting himself to the United States his was "Lost" untill 1975, after his family fought for his reinstatement as a citizen of the United States. He after the war went to teach and become Commandant at what was Washington University and is now Washington and Lee University. I feel that if the general who was made an example of has a Portrait at West Point then the other fearless men who thought it was their duty to their home state to fight for their rights to govern themselves as outlined in the United States Costitution the government in their eyes had gotten too big and no longer was a government "Of the People By the People and For the People" slavery came into play only because each slave counted as 3/4 of a person so the southern states had more voteing power in the House and Congress. Them winners write the history books, and not all facts are as they are presented, they have been cut and polished bleached and sanitized. Most southern soldiers did not own slaves, they were poor dirt farmers, many "Tennant" farmers on larger farms and not all wealthy Southern famalies owned slaves some like many of my fore fathers were Quakers. We are proud of all of the men who graduated from West Point who are born here south of the Mason Dixon Line

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Grayson Snider ()
Date: May 13, 2012 04:28PM

There is a portrait of General Lee facing General Grant in the Library. Lee Barracks faces Sherman Barracks near the Cadet Store.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Linda Eades Blackburn ()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:46PM

I have no idea, but I would be happy to sell them this painting I did of the General......

Linda Eades Blackburn

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Yes, dude. ()
Date: March 22, 2013 06:16PM

Lee Barracks.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: wayne pung ()
Date: November 28, 2013 08:36AM

Portraits, I would think. Ft Hood Texas I know there are others. Pretending you are offended is super lame. Fuck pretentious thin skinned assholes.Boo Hoo I am offended.

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Re: Are any Confederate Generals portraits hung at West Point or Annapolis
Posted by: Northenere ()
Date: November 28, 2013 01:14PM

Yes, there are in fact monuments to a couple great Southern Generals.

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