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VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: associated pressings 9182884 ()
Date: March 26, 2024 03:13PM

this video shows the actual collapse fully, and nothing but that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOdwipL4H2g

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 13tr3g ()
Date: March 26, 2024 03:15PM

reports are sure to change, but at least 7 cars were on the bridge and at least two persons from one car have been extracted from the water in serious condition

it's a very long bridge with many separate spans - it was dark - there is no assurance yet how many might have been on the collapsed part

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 1345ty453 ()
Date: March 26, 2024 03:26PM

A CARGO CONTAINER SHIP FROM ASIA HIT THE BRIDGE DEAD ON THE PILON


One can hardly write off a large container ship hitting a very long bridge as a simple mistake.

Terrorism of some kind must of been involved.

One is Baltimore niggers. They would benefit from this greatly by making an "all black team to repair / replace the bridge". They would make ALLOT OF MONEY. and asians might be involved


the ships owner would of course NOT be involved and seeking insurance money

this is not a backwater mississippi small bridge a barge ran into by taking the wrong tributary - the thing spans clear arcoss

THIS BRIDGE SPANS COMPLETELY ACROSS THE POTOMAC RIVER - all access to baltimore shore goes by it

(this means it has a port authority and any ship approaching / leaving has a pilot assigned by a local port authority to guide it to the shipping lanes - and things like lane usage and bridges are EXACTLY WHY local authorities guide ships into the port not the sea captain)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 1234gty45h ()
Date: March 26, 2024 03:26PM

little red riding hood

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 134235y ()
Date: March 26, 2024 03:31PM

"The container ship that smashed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore sent a “mayday” warning that it had lost power before the disaster"

PROBABLY A LIE

ALSO PORT AUTHORITIES HAVE TUG BOATS. A MOMENTARY LOSS OF POWER WOULD NEVER EFFECT THIS

A SHIP THAT SIZE WOULD HAVE TO TURN FAR FROM THE BRIDGE FOR 15 MINUTES***. THE SHIP WOULD ONLY BE TRAVELING IN A STRAIGHT LINE ANYWHERE NEAR THE BRIDGE.

TUG BOATS ARE ALWAYS AVAILABLE AT PORTS AND ON-CALL AND SOMTIMES EVEN FOLLOW LARGE SHIPS - FOR EXAMPLE - TO PUSH THEM TO MAKE TURNS FOR BRIDGES


That they'd be calling for a tug a momemnt before hitting the bridge is a huge lie.

THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED, whatever it was that did happen.




a "power turn" where turning was going on at the moment of passing through the bridge line would never ever be allowed



ASSESMENT: THE NIGGERS ARE LYING.

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 334545y ()
Date: March 26, 2024 03:38PM

Screenshot-2024-03-26-at-13-13-30-GJl06k

the nigger mayor requested CNN not show the footage. just another example of niggery. the mayor is probably a criminal tight with big media and "plans to sue CNN"

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 14t45y ()
Date: March 26, 2024 03:39PM

^^ it would inhibit investigation by civil engineers around the nation and abroad

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34235y ()
Date: March 26, 2024 03:43PM

Until the fallen segments are dragged clear, any larger ships are "stuck at the port". This will of course reduce the local economy in baltimore and other places abroad. (there are at least a few smaller segments still standing that small ships would probably risk sailing through)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 2324t5 ()
Date: March 26, 2024 03:51PM

Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse live updates: Ship that hit Baltimore bridge was involved in 2016 incident, port authorities say

THAT'S A NIGGER LIE. as shown above: all ships through the bridge have a port authority pilot WHICH IS NOT the ship's captian. they would also have a tug or more nearby at all times incase steering were required

this ain't the first bridge ever - this is every day shit for ports - the methods for preventing it are profuse and paid out 100x over

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 134235y ()
Date: March 26, 2024 03:54PM

FBI: No Indication of Terror. THAT' MEANS YOU DIDN'T INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN YET. oh yea - he fired fbi chief and installed version 0.9283 democrats. DROP DEAD. YOU COULDN'T HAVE INVESTIGATED YET.

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 134r34t ()
Date: March 26, 2024 04:07PM

I am looking for anecdotal evidence, I CANNOT FIND ANY NOTICE OF East West currents, NOT.

(an ascertation currents drew the ship off-course is not supported)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 3t3425hy4 ()
Date: March 26, 2024 04:13PM

BRITTANICA and JOE BIDEN FUNDING THEM: Q: "which way does the potomach flow" A: "The two branches (95 miles [150 km] and 130 miles long [209 km], respectively) flow generally northeast"

that's a lie, they generally go south east - both in tributaries leading to and fresh water into and the river itself - SE not NE

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34t45y ()
Date: March 26, 2024 04:17PM

134r34t Wrote:
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> I am looking for anecdotal evidence, I CANNOT FIND
> ANY NOTICE OF East West currents, NOT.
>
> (an ascertation currents drew the ship off-course
> is not supported)

this is extremely difficult because there are many advertisers selling crap, agencies claiming to provide "vague information" and no directly lead on the port masters web site (for obvious reasons they don't want that)

THERE ARE A HUGE NUMBER of areas one can consider as 'crossing the patomach' and how the port authority has mapped the (as for weather reports) eludes me

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 234tyy ()
Date: March 26, 2024 04:28PM

Francis-Scott-Key-Bridge-map-1.jpg?w=900

see the wedge shape NE bank? Port Breeze is the north of the wedge, the port where the ship dis-embarqued

(as you can see - there is AMPLE opportunity to maneuver and TUG a ship before the bridge)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 4r3t345y43 ()
Date: March 26, 2024 04:46PM

March 25, 2024

°F, RealFeel °F , Hg, Wind speed , Humidity %

Night
+45° +45° 30.4 6.5 70%
Morning
+43° +39° 30.4 4.5 65%
Day
+52° +52° 30.4 6.9 40%
Evening
+50° +48° 30.3 6.7 64%

wind speed can alter direction of a ship. this report says speeds in baltimore were light breeze that early morning. today is also ~ 6mp windspeed.

The bridge collapses. 1:40 a.m.

6mph is 5 knots, low as far as small ships are concerned

THE WIND DIRECTION forecast is more difficult to find - it changes directions frequently in the area

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 342r3y5 ()
Date: March 26, 2024 04:51PM

a side wind ~ 5 knots on a tanker can produce 1/4 to 1/2 ton of lateral wind pressure

(if wind was E/NE during full hour before bridge strike. had it gone E/NE and S/SW both, the average would be 0 tons)

https://www.shiphandlingpro.com/calculating-wind-force

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 14r345y43 ()
Date: March 26, 2024 04:53PM

How many tons can a tugboat pull?
Bollard pull, a much more meaningful measure, is the force exerted by the boat running full ahead while secured by a long line to a stationary bollard; that is, the boat is making no headway through the water. As a guideline, for example, a 10,000 IHP boat can provide around 100–140 tons of static bollard pull.

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 213r43 ()
Date: March 26, 2024 05:01PM

(technical note - being a huge container ship - 1/4 ton of wind probably wouldn't alter path much - but because it's heavy - path correction of that slight change requires allot of pushing)

The Dali
The Dali, a 985-foot-long cargo vessel, hit a pillar of the bridge around 1:30 a.m.,

The 10,000 container-capacity vessel Dali was on its way out of the Port of Baltimore in the early hours Tuesday, heading to Colombo, Sri Lanka

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 1324t34 ()
Date: March 26, 2024 05:26PM

5HVqi-pathway-of-the-cargo-ship-dali-cop

1) a power turn through a bridge is illegal, any engineer would know that any failure including wind speed direction change would endanger a bridge pilon

a power turn requires the ship continually alter course using many tons of power to create a curved path. any failure would result in an unknowable position of passing at the bridge - perhaps a pilon

while the power turn under the bridge would be time saving in the image above - it's HIGHLY DANGEROUS


2) a wide turn also isn't favord due to SHIPPING LANES. ports have lanes - somewhat like car lanes - to allow a greater volume of ships. A WIDE TURN occupies many lanes so is not favored from a management of "shipping lanes" standpoint. it would required the speed time vector of every ship calculate and 0 failures - and then have dependancy chain reactions if a single ship was "wider curve or different vector speed than expected". shipping lanes vastly reduced this to an problem only in one lane (involving ships only ahead and behind in that same lane)


container-ship-passing-under-traffic-on-

a greedy photo of a cargo ship passing under beautiful Golden Gate bridge. it's 90 degrees perfect. i have no doubt california spends a little time and money making sure it stays that way.

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 4r3hg5h3 ()
Date: March 26, 2024 05:28PM

983d8c1330e0668e5c108f99642d3d20.jpg

Bulk carrier MARVEL I at 1950 UTC Mar 3 encountered mechanical issue and was disabled after passing under Lions Gate Bridge, Vancouver, in in English Bay. The ship left Vancouver loaded with grain, bound for China. Tugs responded, MARVEL I was probably, emergency anchored, later she moved to further to English Bay and anchored, for inspection. Understood problem already fixed.
Bulk carrier MARVEL I, IMO 9523495, dwt 79200, built 2011, flag L

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/maritime-news/

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 134th554h ()
Date: March 26, 2024 05:31PM

PART 162—INLAND WATERWAYS NAVIGATION REGULATIONS
Authority:

46 U.S.C. 70034; DHS Delegation No. 00170.1, Revision No. 01.3.
Source:

CGD 75–082, 42 FR 51759, Sept. 29, 1977, unless otherwise noted.

(ii) When approaching and passing through a bridge, all vessels and rafts, regardless of size, shall control their speed so as to insure that no damage will be done to the bridge or its fenders.

IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT ....

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 234t3y45 ()
Date: March 26, 2024 05:32PM

you don't power turn into a bridge with people on it and smack the pilon. EVER.

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 345y5 ()
Date: March 26, 2024 05:41PM

another way of stating the law is this, though there are laws NOT TO MAKE A POWER TURN UNDER A BRIDGE

is that a power turn necessarily means your "speed" is many times that as measured of a boat passing under a bridge at a straight angle, as to the law, since you cannot possibly correct it unless going much much slower

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 2r4435y3 ()
Date: March 26, 2024 05:46PM

(iii) normally join or leave a traffic lane at the termination of the lane, but
when joining or leaving from either side shall do so at as small an angle to
the general direction of traffic flow as practicable.

(c) A vessel shall, so far as practicable, avoid crossing traffic lanes but if
obliged to do so shall cross on a heading as nearly as practicable at right angles
to the general direction of traffic flow.

i can't read through these all but certainly somewhere it says "no powering turning under a bridge with also an angle under even despite the power turing"

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 134t35y ()
Date: March 26, 2024 06:06PM

5HVqi-pathway-of-the-cargo-ship-dali-cop

THIS SHOULD BE DOUBTED, BELIEVE 1/2 OF WHAT YOU SEE NONE OF WHAT YOU HEAR

it could easily be an image offered by an asian insurance company to "steer opinion of who's responsible"

the map above should be taken with a grain of salt

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 13435y45y ()
Date: March 26, 2024 06:13PM


my legal interpretation



no matter how you say you followed the rules YOU HIT THE PYLON which is clearly against all the rules

furthermore, the image shows "a quick turn into a pilon" which is simply impossible for a ship that size without power - not that it matters since quick is exactly not allowed near the bridge

(the ship must not be at any speed or direction that will damage the bridge - period)

you hit the bridge - there is no law that "allows following some laws to evade responsibility of not follwing all of and the main law" which is NOT TO HIT ANY BRIDGES

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 1323Y34 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 12:35AM


NEW DEVELOPMENTS - NEWS NATION



a adept legal advisor says the shipping company will "likely file quickly" for limited liability

(me: that works if your operating a small boat and have the money for a whole bridge but shouldn't have to pay for it since a small boat shouldn't be able to collapse a large bridge. if you have a large boat you know damn well it might take down a bridge)

FURTHERMORE he say, "that port authority pilot had probably guided ships under the bridge hundred times at day and night"

ME: probably? well joe biden tells me he probably doesn't prefering hiring illegal aliens to denizes: PROBABLY LYING. me - probably isn't good enough - they haven't shown any photos

----------------------------------

ME

* no doubt the company will blame the port authority pilot

* no doubt the port authority pilot's report hasn't been reported where I CAN find it - because there's an important legal battle that will follow (the feds and balto are on the hook as well as insurers asians and so on, even sleepign regulators who "butgig wanted it happening faster")

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 134t5y ()
Date: March 27, 2024 12:42AM


ME: the hard left shown as MEDIA EVIDENCE for public consumption into the pilon

was impossible

for a ship without power which was also traveling forward speed SE to end up hard left SW in under 1 mile, a ship that size

BIG MEDIA AND BALTO NIGGERS ARE COVERING UP WHAT HAPPENED



a adept legal advisor says: "SMOKE IS WITNESSED COMING FROM THE SHIP", but that he could note state surely if it was an engine room fire or a back-up diesel generator coming online to restore power. he says "loss of power isn't infrequent in ports and they - usually - know well how to deal with it"

this means something is very much a lie ...

it can't have a "hard right into pilon" in 1/4 mile (hard to do with power, impossible to do without power)

also the ship's captain and pilot would certainly "back off stabelize course" if the engine room had signaled a fire could not be put out - using th energy before the fire stopped the engines to back off / stabelize

NO - THERE ARE ALLOT OF LIES BEING TOLD AND A HARD LEFT INTO PILON - SMACKS OF LYING


THAT SHIP IS TOO BIG TO "TAKE A HARD RIGHT IN 1/4" WITHOUT POWER


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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 323y45 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 12:42AM

1/4 mile obvously, not 1/4"

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 45y54y4 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 12:44AM

the adept legal advisor on NEWS NATION, i didn't get his name ...

DIDN'T MENTION WHY TUG BOATS WERE NOT QUICKLY SURROUNDING SHIP which had loss of power toward a bridge, because they usually would be

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 112112323 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 12:47AM

the BIG SHIP isn't allowed to go a speed to "kill the bridge", unless there is cheating going on at the port authority

IT WOULD TAKE AN HOUR to situation and get past the bridge, under normal speed conditions

A QUICK HARD RIGHT HITTING THE PILON - THAT'S A LIE, things didn't unfold quickly - they couldn't have unless a terrorist pilot and an engine room with full power wanted the bridge to fall

so rule that out - we then have BIG MEDIA POSTING FALSE PATHS AND MAKING EXCUSES THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT TRUE

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 113445 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 12:56AM

you can't KNOW that hauling ass out of port with a huge ship will eventually take down a bridge and not be insured for taking out a bridge

limited liability applies where it SHOULD apply, not where it would be "cheating" to apply

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 134t5 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 03:41AM

CHRIS PLANTE - WMAL RADIO - report that

THE CARGO SHIP DROPPED ANCHOR BEFORE COLLISION

1) i doubt they had an anchor, they're expansive hard to deploy and "companies say tug boats are sufficient and out and sea and so on" to avoid reqruirement of anchors

bet they didn't have an anchor

2) INCREDIBLY STUPID TO DRAG AN ANCHOR NEAR A BRIDGE - if it caught on something or was deployed to side it might cause the ship to turn or break the chain AND THE SHIP

(you deploy an achor while still before the storm, deploy it while moving and watch the fuck out!!)

ANYHOW - BET THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN ANCHOR - I WOULDN'T

and that a danish company "will no longer being going in or out"

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 14t34y ()
Date: March 27, 2024 03:04PM

‘Black Box’ Data Recorder Taken by Investigators

Officials: No Evidence of Terrorism

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/03/27/baltimore-ship-black-box-data-recorder-taken-by-investigators/

THAT'S NOT TRUE EITHER, BIDEN'S LYING AGAIN. different countries and different ships have different laws one what must be recorded. also there is no "brand" that is

LEGISLATION PASSED UNDER CLINTON ADMINISTRATION is corrupt. It requires 'most ships' to have recorders recording. This is a BILL GATES law because many "businesses" are building them and "want ships forced to use them".

IT DOES NOT SPECIFY COMPATIBILITY OR LANGUAGE. unlike BOEING flight data recorders which the FBI can reliably 'download', a ship data recorder may not be compatible with an agency's equipment.

ELECTRONIC DATA RECORDERS CAN BE HACKED. national guard can "stop and enter any ship and demand a log of activities", and if the captain has mis-information in the log - they may hold the ship until resolved. but saying electronics are never hacked is false news. it depends on who made it who buys it and other.

Data Recorder solutions for the small vessel industries
AMI Marine
https://amimarine.com news mini-recorders-for-sma...
Our mini data recorder series is compatible with the AMI Float Free Recoverable Capsule and JOTRON's TRON 40 AIS model.

DO YOU HAVE 1-40 VERSION SUPPORT FOR AIS MODEL, AND ALL OTHER MODELS ON YOUR PC?

that's what i thought

----------------------------------------
SUMMARY:

nothing in the investigation would be solved by a ship's data recorder as far as terrorism is concerned

the ships direction was WRONG (at least near the peer - perhaps far before - they haven't released that and if they do it might be fake - i'd rather see satellite or other cameras), and procedures weren't followed. why could be terrorism. terrorists don't voice their plans necessarily

THE STATEMENT THAT TERRORISM WAS FOUND TO BE FALSE IS FALSE, THE FBI LIED

(asians: your check didn't clear for those cars i dropped off, i told you last time if you pull that shit again there will be RAM-ifications. that's one of many possible scenario other than loose operations (ie, increased ship speed allowed where it shouldn't have been - even insided upon by foreign countries ended up in our bridge being down))

the FBI merely gained what was (rather should have been) already understood and relayed to the public in a general manner of the data.

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 134345 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 03:08PM

FURTHERMORE

* MICROSOFT IS A MESS WITH A GERMAN<>CHINESE BITCH WEB BROWSER AND SHUNS COMPATIBILITY, HQ in many countries including terrorist countries - with a World Record for secruity break-ins and viruses

* UBUNTU IS A TERRORIST GERMAN CHINESE MALWARE TOOL "AIMED AT DOMINATING THROUGH TECH TERROR" WHICH HATES COMPATIBILITY - intently destroys all past apps (which they do not control) 2x a year

* BECAUSE THE TWO ABOVE GET ALL THE MONEY$$$$, THERE ARE VERY FEW others left that might be in the VDR, since all hardware made is made in china and that is all made to fuck over everyone and leave china in control

-------------------------------------------
VDR is a myth. they can't even prove the thing exists.

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 45t6j521 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 03:10PM

^^ without activating companies they've attacked heavily over the years - who no doubt are pissed at them

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 3t5u534 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 04:10PM

What would happen if a 120000 ton cruise ship collided ...
Quora
https://www.quora.com › What-would-happen-if-a-120...
Jun 9, 2023 — A collision between a 120000-ton cruise ship and one of the pillars of the Golden Gate Bridge at a speed of 20 knots would likely result in ...
5 answers
· 2 votes: First of all it would be considered to be a SMALL cruise ship, since most newer

BIDEN'S ASIAN FRIENDS ARE FISHING FOR INFORMATION HOW TO DESTROY GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE CHEAPLY

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 12r34ty ()
Date: March 27, 2024 04:13PM

Sea speed can vary between 16 22 knots. Speed in a harbor would be a third of that, depending on the harbor, weather, visibility, ship's draft, etc. Yes ships, boats, seaplane must slow down to less than 5 knots and when docking a fraction of 1 knot or the risk of destroying docks and piers or sinking other ships.

RUMORE - ASIAN SHIP THAT DOWNED BRIDGE WAS GOING

8 KNOTS

ALMOST 1/2 IT'S FULL SPEED - when bridge was struck

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 2er2g4y43y3 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 04:15PM

FOR STUPID MILLENIALS

if you were standing on a bridge watching a huge cargo ship go by ...

at 3 knots, it would take ...

AN HOUR - YOU'D BE SEEING THAT SAME SHIP FOR AN HOUR in and out of your view

these aren't supposed to be quick events

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34r5y45y ()
Date: March 27, 2024 04:30PM

NEXT POINT FOR STUPID MILLENIALS:

iconic speed boats have TO AVOID DAMAGING THE dock / pier and ship: 1 knot

SO, a bridge is way more expensive and has people on it and can't be damaged. so what is your speed?

your answer should not be: "as fast as the ship goes by the time i reach the bridge"


----------------------
as soon as i heard "had no power" i was suspicious

* asians THREATENING pressuring strong arm, through democrat channels, "if you don't pick up speed we will double the price on the car delivery"

* corrupt democrats deregulating ignoring rules, a system of coverups and going home early (or more than usually, not hiring a third shift to avoid cost and double paying assholes who agree to ignore rules)

* A SYSTEM OF ASIANS GET CHEAPER SHIPPING, AND LOCAL FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS PAY FOR THE DAMAGE (local here means chinese puppet Joe Biden agreeing to pay for bridge without even announcing which insurer owes a check publicly)

* NEVER ANNOUNCING WHO IS AT FAULT PUBLICLY, and an NTSB investigation RUN BY NIGGERS

* BLACK BOXES THAT CAN BE HACKED to "appease public opinion"

and so on

it's what i figured i'd find when i first heard "had no power hit the bidge" and no news of any tugboat was anywhere

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34rty45 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 04:35PM

I CAN BE REALLY STUPID BUT I CAN PUT 2 AND 2 TOGETHER EVENTUALLY

"no power" but going fast and no tugboats arrived?

demcorat de-regulation due to asian threats and corrupt democrats

8 knots is 9 mph is fast enough to give you whiplash in a car. that cargo weighs hundreds of tons.

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 3t4h545 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 04:35PM

Slowing Cargo Ships More Than Halves Pollution near Ports
Scientific American
https://www.scientificamerican.com article slowing-...
Nov 19, 2012 — Slowing cargo vessels near coastlines by 10 to 15 miles per hour could dramatically cut ships' air pollution, according to a new study.

8 KNOTS IS ALSO NOT GREEN, SO WE FIND

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 234ryh543 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 04:46PM

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Biggest-cargo-ship-to-ever-grace-S-F-Bay-is-here-6730044.php

The Benjamin Franklin took it slow inside the bay, easing to about 8 knots to pass the San Francisco waterfront, and slower still as it made a turn to go under the Bay Bridge. Livingstone said it would clear the bottom of the bridge by about 15 feet.

(notice the asian heavy influence SFGATE avoids identifying speed)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34t5u65 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 04:53PM

Milano Bridge Collision Whoops.. A large cargo ship can take ...
Facebook Avanti Freight Management
2 reactions 3 years ago
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going 8 knots instead of the usual 6kn while berthing and this is what you get... In early 2020 the Milano Bridge container ship brushed

(ME: 6 knots is the bill clinton speed - i'd say 1-3 knot for a long delicate bridge with passengers cars on it?)

https://container-news.com/high-speed-and-compromised-manoeuvring-caused-milano-bridge-accident/

(this boat had no ballast because asians were trying to save money - as a result THE PROPELLER WASN'T IN THE WATER !!! i never thought i'd hear that one)

NOTE THEY CLAIMED THE PROPELLER WAS AT FAULT NOT IN CONTACT WITH WATER - BUT THEY WERE SPEEDING - ADD THE TWO UP - THEY ARE LYING

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 6565i ()
Date: March 27, 2024 04:56PM

Contact of Tanker Dank Silver with Sunshine Bridge
NTSB (.gov)
https://www.ntsb.gov Reports MAB2023
PDF
by MA Brief 2019 Cited by 2 — The ship's speed over the ground had increased to 5.7 knots, and the speed through the water was +0.4 knots. About this same time, the pilot ...

At 1316:42, about 6 minutes before the collision, the tanker was about 0.7 miles from the
bridge, and the pilot ordered half ahead on the ship’s engine. ECDIS showed Dank Silver heading
197°.4, making a course of 178°.9, with a speed over the ground of 4.6 knots and a speed through
the water of -0.7 knots. At 1318:21, the pilot ordered full ahead, and at 1319:37, the ship’s speed
through the water was a positive 0.1 knots.

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/MAB2023.pdf


0.1 knots versus 8 knots ?

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34345y ()
Date: March 27, 2024 04:59PM

Damage to the fendering system for the western pier of the Sunshine Bridge, from the north.
(Source: Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development)

(photo in PDF, not bad damage - very little or no concrete mostly other. did put a ding in the ship)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 234t45y5 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 05:27PM

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS7_UUR1vyR-8MqWHmc1M7

hits a bridge skirt at .1 MPH doing little damage, get's written up by feds for ship accident and damage

DOESN'T ANYONE HAVE SYMPATHY ANYMORE?

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 134t4 ()
Date: March 27, 2024 08:35PM

ass mentioned before, unfortunately there are MASSIVE MOTIVES FOR BOTH ASIANS BIDENS DEMOCRAT MARYLAND to have attacked the bridge

* federal money paying not maryland mone - but money comes to maryland krouts and niggers - ALLOT OF MONEY - enough to kill 13 spics enough to kill 100

* asians may have found that bridge to be an impediment to shipping - perhaps they "want to go faster". or even sought retribution for when checks were clearing.

* "faster means more money" - until someone ELSE ends up paying

A TON OF MOTIVES. and this is why laws are strict

(that there be no list of rules for which when one follows one can deny liability for hitting a bridge. THE LAW IS NOT TO HIT THE BRIDGE)

(this is called: major law before minor law)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 143t343 ()
Date: March 28, 2024 03:23PM

Biden: Govt Will Pay ‘Entire Cost’ of Rebuilding Baltimore Bridge

AN ASIAN RUN AND INSURED SHIP HIT THE BRIDGE - and is still in sailing condition

USA's port authority was driving, but the ASIANS DENIED the pilot control of the ship

A PILOT WITHOUT CONTROL OF THE SHIP IS NOT RESPONSIBLE

THE ASIANS PRESSURED THE PORT AUTHORITY TO GO FASTER, they got what they threatened the port to do: faster


i don't see limited liability for ASIANS, i see mostly ASIANS responsible with a little limited liability for pilot and authority also



BUT THE FEDS (AMERICANS, SAY IN NORTH DAKOTA) didn't benefit from the bridge that's a Maryland secured asset. and their loss has to do with ASIANS and their own decision toward de-regulations

THAT DOENS'T PUT ME ON THE HOOK. IT PUTS ASIANS, THEN BALTO NIGGER-GERMANS ON THE HOOK, WITH NO FEDERAL MONEY above the usual fed money for such projects (that is, no extra money)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34r5y ()
Date: March 28, 2024 03:27PM

Body Discovered as Search for Six Missing Workers Called Off

YES, contractors should have complete control. it's way too dangerous to have "local divers try to recover cars" while beneath a structure that could collapse at any time at who knows what depth. (or they might do something stupid and cause something to fall)

THE CONTRACTORS will remove the heavy pieces then access to any underwater will be free of anything that would endanger divers

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 135y4 ()
Date: March 28, 2024 03:29PM

Chris Plante WMAL Radio: said there are few major ports on east cost that Baltimore was perhaps the busiest and that Pennsylvania, joe biden's home state, will be PICKING UP NEW BUSINESS as a result

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 4g4h456j ()
Date: March 29, 2024 03:04PM

i'm going to say it's possible terrorism

* they aren't showing videos of the ship 10 minutes before hit only the moment of hit which would show if the ship was on-course

* they aren't sayiny ANYTHING about why a tugboat was not called or stationed nearby

. i guess they weren't doing a dangerous "power turn" because that'd be very illegal and seeing the maps - there isn't a reason to attempt one - plenty of time to put ship on course well before bridge

. no tug was called yet they were far off course

------------------------------------------------
. officials are now talking smack about federal dollars

. officials are now talking smack about building "a super bridge" ($$$$$) that the old bridge really wasn't sufficient

super bridge will take longer to build and be much more federally expensive and ... be designed to make the scum of baltimore rich, and is also a motive for hitting the bridge

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 245245y45y ()
Date: March 29, 2024 03:18PM

https://michaelsavage.com/secret-police-report-warns-canadians-may-revolt-once-they-realize-how-broke-they-are-under-trudeau-as-many-under-35s-are-unlikely-ever-to-buy-a-home/

democrats may be "trying to put federal buildings in maryland and arranging things so that the bad economy democrats created has less effect for democrats"

and where Trump can't "interfere" in a rebuilding of the bridge

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 2345y ()
Date: March 29, 2024 03:28PM

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=baltimore+bridge+time+elapse

BIG TECH is hiding an engineering video usually found in these cases ...

A TIME ELAPSE (sometimes called "before bridge collpse")

5 minutes before collapse, 10 minutes before collapse - in other words videos that would show the ships speed and steering well before the crash

the "youtube" shows lights blink off. a chinese effect perhaps digitally added perhaps a breaker being thrown - the same minute of collapse. this does NOT explain anything

again if the ship was off course "without steering" (a second rumor placed in media, had power but not steering) a tug would have been on scene as soon as steering was lost ... but that would have to be minutes (ie like 15 min to 30 minutes) before the bridge hit. so that story isn't believable

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 13145yu5 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 03:31PM

this isn't the only bridge fiasco with deaths for democrats. FFU has coverage of the FLORIDA PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE COLLAPSE, a chinese designed bridge where allot of money went missing it was never built as promised or as sold (missing many structural features promised were MISSING - REMOVED BY CHINESE AFTER SALE)

that deaths occurred means nothing - and note non-english speaking road workers died - a con artist corrupt democrat - could sleep with that

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: rf34g45y5 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 03:37PM

ANOTHER - HARD ROCK CAFE COLLAPSE - a building without support collapsed during construction to claim uncounted money in insurance (so they thought). video surface the building's design was intently flawed they knew it would collapse. the insurers sued

florida bridge collapse - they got sued and i'm sure they lost the case becaues the evidce of it all was clear

HOWEVER - THOSE WHO GOT SALARY DURING THE YEARS OF PLANNING AND BUILDING - were not sued. and that's a motive and those people didn't go to jail

=====================================
it's hard for people to come to terms with "what murder is and plans for murder"

I ASSURE YOU - MURDER EXTENDS TO PUBLIC STRUCTURES - and this case appears to be one. it's not just automobiles that "get bad work to keep a person paying at the dealer". dishonest people can and will do that to a whole structure. the point is clear: a generation of rats who get into power of things they shouldn't have power over - can cause major infrastructure to fall.

it happens all the time in china

THE MOTIVE - DEMOCRAT ASIAN* CONTRACTS BEFORE TRUMP ELECTED - and jobs created which can't be "sued" nor parties responsible really brought to justice

(if superbridge is built, asian's can ship more in less time or rather, avoid buying another ship - it's ALLOT OF MONEY)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 345y4u ()
Date: March 29, 2024 04:34PM

this video shows little damage to Dali (the ship), and the damage shown may not have been due to collision (allot of rust exists where damage shown is - torn metal shows a bright edge even if rusty - leaving more questions)

also "where the damage show WAS", was excluded from the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJPiI0iODFQ

Francis-Scott-Key-Bridge-mangled-bridge-

this shows the ship which looked undamaged and appeared to have no cargo where the bridge fell, was infact damaged moderately. (it appears to repairable damage)

the photo shows that the personell (captain's quarters) of the ship were far away from the damage area

____.jpg bull nose bow

some large ships have tapered bows, including most military ships

Icon-of-the-Seas-delivery-bow-view.0693d wave cutting bow

a tapered bow might deflect a pilon hit unless it were a direct ramming strike, if the bow was structural (ie military) not merely present for looks

THIS ALSO PUTS A SHADOW ON WHETHER THE STRIKE WAS INTENTIONAL because it's obvious the strike was dead on (the bridge landed about 90 deg on across the bow) - it's not easy to make a perfect strike on a small column with a ship that size - the likelyhood is small (as per "accidental action", the bow of the cargo ship is slightly tapered and the strike would be expected to be anywhere except a perfect hit - which would have provided deflection and dents alone side of ship)

as it turns out the strike was off-center - very likely where the hole is - which "captured the pilon", embedding it in the inelastic collision, rather than deflecting it

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 23r434y34 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 04:39PM

NBC news

The boat’s lights, after having gone out at 1:24 a.m., went back on one minute later, and dark smoke began billowing from the ship’s chimney. Then, at 1:26 a.m., the ship appeared to turn sharply. Before it slammed into the bridge, the Dali’s lights flicked off and on again.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rare-mayday-preceded-baltimore-bridge-collapse-couldnt-think-worse-sit-rcna145212

this proves BIG TECH BIG MEDIA are involved in lying news

it is impossible a ship that size would "be way off course and need steering" 2 minutes away from bridge (the would align a course through bridge many minutes out)

it's also impossible that a ship on course 1 minutes from bridge could suddently be taken far off course "due to a power failure", infact it'd drift through the bridge mostly on the same course - not hitting probably not brushing pilon. if there were a strike it'd be at the rear not bow, 1 minute out

it's a large ship the wind was slight and the currents (are unavailable - but it's a bay area - currents would be mostly tidal in out not cross-wise)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34r3ty45y ()
Date: March 29, 2024 04:41PM

Marine insurers face billion-dollar payout on Baltimore ...
Lloyd's List
https://www.lloydslist.com Marine-insurers-face-billio...
2 days ago — Exposure on physical damage, loss of life and personal injury, cargo and delay claims could nudge total bill towards ten-figure territory.

BUT JOE BIDEN TOLD US FEDS WILL PAY

THIS IS LIKE JOE IN A CAR ACCIDENT AND THE INSURANCE COMPANY PAYS TWICE BECAUES HE FAKED THEM OUT

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34rt34y5 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 04:48PM

ap171680384378341.jpg?w=620 japanese tanker ship

ap171680246156891.jpg?w=620 usa Navy ship

to be clear about what i mean, see the damage on this japanese tanker's bow after hitting a smaller military ship. is surprisingly not bad.

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: rf3g434t ()
Date: March 29, 2024 04:51PM

https://maritime-executive.com/article/head-on-collision-closes-germany-s-kiel-canal-for-hours

photos here ^^ show holes in bow are a result of serious direct strikes between large ships

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 23ety ()
Date: March 29, 2024 04:56PM

here is a glancing blow hit

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but the data on the report is incomplete - not saying if ships were in same or opposite direction - we dont' see King Aurthur could have made such a wide mark and wonder if the insurance companies didn't protest to the facts presented

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34t3hg45 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 04:58PM

https://shipwrecklog.com/log/2012/03/silver-shadow-collision/

a similar accident also not saying if the ships were heading same or opposite direction

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 234r34tyg43 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 05:06PM

found it !!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRvy0SR-Pr4

THIS VIDEO SHOWS A SLOW HEAD ON, TWO TAPERED BOWS, STRIKING JUST 1 DEGREE OFF CENTER. the result is two scraped bows which rubbed along each other. (they are cargo ships but much smaller)

https://maritime-executive.com/article/video-two-cargo-ships-in-head-on-collision-on-welland-canal

this shows my point that while head on strikes take down a bridge - it's not true that they are "highly probable" - there is that probability the pilon does damage while ship slides along it

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34t345h ()
Date: March 29, 2024 05:07PM

cargo-ship-fractures-bridge-in-guangzhou

asians are "downing" their own bridges at an amazing rate

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34tuy ()
Date: March 29, 2024 05:13PM

LKQUFQSR7NO5HHNO22PC4GKBDU.jpg?auth=8ac5

there also is some malfeasance in design of bridge

. used simple trussing design and land/road/highway pilon design
. knocking out one pilon took down the whole center section
. no protection of pilons that ships passed around/by
. all segements of bridge inter-connected, one hit they all go down

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 45y2434 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 05:18PM

just FYI, a head-on ship collision of two ships can cause the spines of both to snape, snapping both ships in half. depends on design of ship and such.

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 145y45 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 05:25PM

allot of shipping accidents are minor (scraping the docks) or further out at sea

the reason for those out at sea is both captains not paying attention (long voyage not doing dead recockoning), ships refusing to alter course (playing chicken) which can also mean both ships not paying attention out at sea. these are usually not head-on ones. and more seldomly, failed radar on both ships at same time.

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: t45u45 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 05:26PM

also a few instances of failed communication (speaking different language), lack of any use of lights as communication, broken radios. also probably both captains not paying attention

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 35t345hy4 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 05:29PM

https://www.wusf.org/2024-03-27/loss-of-ships-power-and-stiff-current-may-have-led-to-bridge-collision-experts-say

this article cross testifies - is a lie

* it first says stiff current in headline

* it then changes this to tidal current 1/2 down the article

* it then admits tidal is perpandicular to bridge briefly/hardly

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34T35453 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 05:35PM

Bulker Loses its Rudder Disabling it off New Zealand
The Maritime Executive
https://maritime-executive.com article bulker-loses-i...
Jul 31, 2023 — The current plan is to first tow the ship back into Tauranga to offload the cargo. A further investigation into the circumstances contributing ...

Achilles-Bulker-Wikimedia.eee4ab.jpg

LOOKS LIKE YOU LOST CONTROL OF YOUR PAINT ALSO

Can cargo ships go in reverse? Of course. In fact, unlike a car or a small boat where there is a transmission with a reverse gear, nearly all large diesel ships actually stop the engine and start the engine again in the opposite rotation.

(A LOSS OF RUDDER doesn't spell disaster if a tug is nearby. baltimore has tugs near bridge if they didn't - call the police and arrest those assholes)

loss of rudder WAS NOT THE BALTIMORE PROBLEM, the ship could reverse. it had to be loss of engine. but it struck at 8 knots - had it lost engine 10 mintues out, even 5, a tug would have arrived. had it lost power 2 minutes - it should have drifted under bridge without strike being alread on course

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 3w4t345y3 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 05:39PM

https://www.quora.com/What-happens-if-a-ship-loses-its-rudder

as usualy, this is a chinese server with MIS-INFORMATION AND LIES - moderated by a chinese bitch who deletes good information and ip bans whoever uploaded it

THEY DID NOT MENTION REVERSING ENGINES

6. Rudder Replacement (loss of rudder is usually NOT rudder replacement it usually has to do with massive oil pumps inside the ship engineering section. the rudder is usual "fine")

fucking asshole big tech. loss of rudder doesn't mean "the rudder fell off" - that'd only happen on a rice burner car or ford pinto.

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34tr5hy45 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 05:41PM

4. Towing or Escort: In some cases, when a ship loses its rudder, tugboats or other vessels may be dispatched to assist and guide the ship to a safe location, such as a harbor or anchorage.

EVEN QUORA MENTIONS THE TUG BOAT (after mentioning collsion, being disinformation they placed events out of order)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: t4h54 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 05:44PM

Why do the ships holding in the Singapore Strait reverse ...
Quora
https://www.quora.com Why-do-the-ships-holding-in...
Dec 24, 2018 — If you want the ship to “stop,” it MUST reverse its engines and power aftward to cancel out its forward motion. Ships don't have brakes. OP: “ ...
4 answers
· 263 votes: Ha! I can answer this. When I started working in the Shipping industry years ago

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 3t5457 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 05:46PM

main-qimg-4c6c43241d4aba02f462aefd65c126

the awesome business end of a tug boat. also makes fish puree very well.

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34t35hy54 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 05:54PM

https://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/marine/2011/m11l0160/m11l0160.html

just a nice report

Summary

On 15 December 2011, at 0910 Eastern Standard Time, the bulk carrier Orsula departed Contrecœur, Quebec, in ballast for Baie-Comeau, Quebec. While proceeding downbound on the St. Lawrence River under the conduct of a pilot, the vessel lost steering control and ran aground at 1329 on the Battures de Gentilly, 1.25 miles northeast of Bécancour wharf, Quebec. About 48 hours later, it was refloated on the first attempt using tugs. The vessel sustained hull damage, which required repairs. There were no injuries or pollution as a result of this occurrence.


Steering gear

The Orsula is equipped with an electro-hydraulic Rapson Slide (type FM21-072) steering gear with 2 rams and 4 cylinders, manufactured by Kawasaki-Wuhan. The hydraulic cylinders are supplied by 2 variable-delivery main steering gear pumps operated through a floating lever arrangement driven by a set of 2 telemotor receivers. Only 1 telemotor receiver can be used at a time, but it can drive either 1 or 2 variable-delivery main steering pumps at the same time.

In case of failure of all remote steering gear control systems, it is possible, as an emergency measure, to detach the 2 telemotor receivers from the floating lever arrangement and connect a hand trick wheelFootnote 9 to directly and manually operate the variable-delivery main steering pump. However, in order to do this, an operator must be situated locally in the steering gear compartment to operate the trick wheel and follow orders given by bridge personnel through a communication device.


(see full report - the pilot was unable or too distracted to make use of the feature mentioned above)


Reversing the main engine

The vessel is fitted with a direct-drive reversible low-speed engine. The engine drives 1 fixed-pitch propeller, and the vessel service speed is approximately 15 knots.

*****
stern means rear of ship, as in reverse
*****

The bridge control of the engine enables a crew member to start the engine ahead or astern and choose different speed settings. To switch from ahead to astern movement, the engine must be allowed to slow down to a designated revolution (37 rpm) to prevent excessive stresses and forces before it can then be set into reverse mode and restarted astern.

When the main engine is set to full ahead (127 rpm) and the vessel speed is 14.8 knots, it takes 155 seconds for the engine to set into astern starting mode. As well, in the case of an emergency stop (putting the telegraph from full ahead to full astern), the vessel can be stopped in 5 minutes and 21 seconds.Footnote 11 This information was posted on a bulkhead in the wheelhouse.

-----------------------------------

so for a BRIDGE SITUATION, THIS MEANS, that any navigation which would be 6 minutes out would be "very aware and slow down for bridge"

it also means a vessel 2 minutes out could not even apply reverse engines in time to even begin slowing speed, per say, once again demanding a large vessel "take it slow near a bridge" (which already is in navigation law anyhow!)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34rft5hj4 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 06:04PM

m11l0160-appendix-a.png

here however, note there is a river flow SW along with continual bending not in line of the ship; that accounts for this ship running into ground

google maps 46.400481972846165, -72.38322077556197

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34r34ty4 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 06:07PM

(the report doesn't mention a tug boat until after running aground, however you expect canada doesn't have expensive tugs all along each long river for smaller ships. its' not the "major port having huge bridge" scenario)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34t345y ()
Date: March 29, 2024 06:09PM

The Transportation Safety Board of Canada (TSB) provided that very nicely written report

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 3t45h4 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 06:31PM

so, a good captain is supposed to track where the ship is (dead reckoning) and where it will go with the speed it has (dead reckoning) at all times (once per minute near dock or bridge minimum)

a good captain would never sail at a speed they know they could not correct toward a hazard that would be disasterous - dead reckoning - THEY KNOW WHERE THE SHIP IS HEADED miles forward and where it would be were something to go wrong

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34t34545 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 06:32PM


I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHEN THE PORT AUTHORITY LAXENED SAFETY

AND WHETHER THAT BEGAN AT THE SAME TIME BALTIMORE BEGAN PLANNING A NEW BRIDGE


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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34rth45y ()
Date: March 29, 2024 06:36PM

Maryland Delegation Announces Nearly $7 Billion for Major ...
Congressman Jamie Raskin (.gov)
https://raskin.house.gov 2023/11 maryland-delegatio...
Nov 6, 2023 — $30,000,000 Gunpowder River Bridge Replacement Program: To replace the 110-year-old two-track Gunpowder River Bridge in Joppatowne with a new ...

WHERE'S WALDO

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34t34y4 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 06:39PM


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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: r43y45y3 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 06:40PM

^^ overview of bridge - planning began in mid 1950's

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34rty5y ()
Date: March 29, 2024 06:49PM

MARYLAND BALTO NIGGERS WERE CHARGING A TOLL ON THE BRIDGE ...

DESPITE IT WAS ERECTED BEFORE THEY WERE BORN

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 314tr35y45y ()
Date: March 29, 2024 06:52PM

BALTIMORE INNER HARBOR 2.0
City of Baltimore (.gov)
https://www.baltimorecity.gov default files › I...
PDF
Luckily, a plan to introduce a highway bridge from Fells Point through the Harbor was defeated by a neighborhood grass roots movement headed by Barbara Mikulski ...

THE IDEA BALTO NIGGERS HAVEN'T BEEN INTRODUCING "new bridge across harbor" legislation is patently false

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 45y6j6iu ()
Date: March 29, 2024 06:53PM

Fort McHenry Tunnel - Baltimore
Roads to the Future
http://www.roadstothefuture.com Fort_McHenry_Tunnel
The Fort McHenry Tunnel cost $750 million to build, and construction took 5 1/2 years. It is the widest underwater tunnel in the world. This project required ...

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 3t345y4 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 06:56PM

https://www.mdot.maryland.gov/OPCP/2040_MTP_Document_2019-01-31_WebSinglePages.pdf

THIS READ LIKE THIS: MARYLAND KROUTS NIGGERS NEVER RUN OUT OF REAL WORK - USING JAPANESE CHINESE HEAVY EQUIPMENT (DEMOCRATS), VIRGINIA WILL NEVER GET WORK

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34T45Y54 ()
Date: March 29, 2024 07:03PM

(a few to several potomach bridges are "planned for 10 20 years out", meaning large ties to active contractos who "want and endless number of bridges across potomach")

as to whether FESD funded any of those proposals - is a good question. i'd doubt balto did - they are buisy spending the money on casinos

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34t35y ()
Date: March 29, 2024 07:14PM

if the balance of outlet of the Y were very unbalanced the "turning area" would be a source of current to put ship off-course, but as said before - this is 1/2 hour away from bridge - time enough to reverse or call tug

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 134y4 ()
Date: March 30, 2024 12:47AM

NEW:

https://www.wmal.com/personalities/chris-plante/

3-29-24 Hour 2 - Biden Obama and Clinton at Radio City

at 5 min 30 sec

CHRIS PLANTE WMAL Radio

the last 2 minutes of the Data Recorder are missing, the FBI lied saying it was not terrorism since without the last two minutes how would they fucking know. anyhow, as the main article says - its' the last 30 minutes we're interested, not the time of crash

(me - the last 2 minutes don't matter, the fate was already fixed in stone so to say, since nothing could have change things beginning at the 2 minute mark except a tug boat or two which weren't present)

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 4344y ()
Date: March 30, 2024 12:48AM

tug boat video essay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpGWwVHoiRI

URL NOT SHOWN bbc essay

BBC youtube on tugs: says indirect towing "effectively pulls the tugboat" (TRUST THE BRITISH TO LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING - so they can destroy you with the truth later - nothing the brits say is ever the truth)



it is reported by AP that two tugboats, only 5,000 HP ones, did maneuver the Dali away from the docks ... "but quickly ran away" and were not seen thereafter


THE TITLE OF THE ARTICLE LIES, AND SAYS TUGS COULN'T HAVE SAVED THE SHIP

IT'S A PATENT LIE BECAUSE IN THE ARTICLE NO SOURCE IS CITED AND THEY CROSS TESTIFY THE ARTICLE TITLE, SAING TUGS MIGHT HAVE SAVED THE SHIP

btw - tugs are 5khp even 22k hp, 5k is a small side of things for tugs that work on large ships

AS WE SEE - BIG TECH STILL IS SUPPRESSING NEWS ON TUG BOATS, THE DATA CENTERS ARE


https://www.wnct.com/news/national/ap-could-tugboats-have-helped-avert-the-bridge-collapse-tragedy-in-baltimore/

is ALSO LYING NIGGERS, playing the time disinformation game

they speak about "2 minutes" - but that's a lie it takes more than 2 minutes from port/dock to bridge

THEY GIVE TIME OF COLLAPSE after mentioning 2 minutes - but not time tugs left the scene

its' very devious it's an effort to plant mis-information


“I’m a big fan of tug escorts,” said Joseph Ahlstrom, a member of the Board of Commissioners of Pilots of the State of New York, which regulates the state’s harbor pilots. “If applied early enough and effectively, yes, a tug escort could prevent a collision with the bridge or with another ship, or going aground.”

i probably got the idea by watching the History channel episode on Tugs which mostly focused on NY's tugs


the lying article says "the tugs turned back" BUT THAT'S A LIE. there's no evidence in the photos they were anywhere in sight (tugs aren't that slow!! they aren't fast but they can maneuver a straight line to get there also)

again the lying niggers said "it all happened so fast in two minutes" THAT'S A TOTAL LIE

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: In A New York Minute ()
Date: March 30, 2024 12:50AM

I'm sure the History channel NY ports essay on tugs mentioned tugs and police boats were part of PROTECTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALSO ANTI-TERRORISM,

since, it's obvious, some rust bucket asian ship is going to bop your bridge pilon if you aren't paying attention - be sure of that

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 4y5j654 ()
Date: March 30, 2024 04:41PM

Once clear the port the ship will be given RFA (Ring for full ahead). Then the engine rpm will be increased gradually to the intended speed required for the vessel. Roughly it would take from 45mins 1 hour to reach the max speed if all goes well.

so, being Dali was 8 knots about 1/2 to 1/4 speed, that'd be 10 or 20 minutes to reach 8 knots

ONCE AGAIN WE SEE THE MEDIA PUSHING "2 minutes" which is meaningless in the larger picture

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Point Breeze is about 2 miles from the bridge

(it could reach in 22 minutes at 9mph but began at speed 0)

from 0 speed to 9mph with linear acceleration (which is fast), that'd still be 44 minutes

2 minutes is meaningless in this timeframe, especially the last two minutes

(there was time to position the ship to be 90deg to bridge and on axis between pilons as a line of ship's path)

44 minutes - that'd also mean time enough to call a tug where they out of line - say 10, 20, 30 minutes in they should have had a course

(and again - i refute that if engines died 1 mile from bridge as "BIG TECH SUGGESTED" that tugs wouldn't have time to arrive and push the boat at least some if not completely clear. also note 1 mi no engine means 12 knots with slowdown which doesn't even calculate as possible the ship could have accelerated then lost engines 1 mile from bridge and still be going 8 knots)

NONE OF IT ADDS UP

we'll see if the report clears this up i doubt it - with obama biden cover ups - i expected bullshit from when i first realized TUGS were never called

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 234t54u65 ()
Date: March 30, 2024 04:59PM

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DUE TO INTERNATIONAL DISAGREEMENTS WITH CHINA

THE COAST GUARD CAN BOARD ANY CHINESE OR OTHER VESSEL ANY TIME AND DEMAND DEAD RECKONING LOGS FOR THE JOURNEY - not including US military vessels or foreign military in INT'L water, but sometimes those also


BIG TECH said "only audio was recorded last 2 minutes" and FBI had to obtain data recorder to know ships's path

THAT WAS A LIE, the captain and pilot were alive and well and by law had to have dead reckoning logs ready to hand to authority at any point in the journey at all times

the law demands dead reckoning once every minute near port or bridge

JOE BIDEN LIED, THE FBI LIED



those logs haven't been released to public as far as i can determine

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 34r35hy4 ()
Date: March 30, 2024 05:01PM

dali accident report logs

dali dead reckoning logs

GOOGLE HAS BLOCKED SEARCHING FOR BOTH OF THESE, saying there are no results only returning bullshit nypost CNN trash papers

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Re: VIDEO: the moment of Balitimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Posted by: 3T445H45 ()
Date: March 30, 2024 05:03PM

(the right procedure is to get the voyage data from port of departure to port of call, then find which agency has logs found under those data items - i am in a hurry at the moment can't)

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