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More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Less
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Date: August 03, 2010 11:47AM
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Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Capt. Obvious
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Date: August 03, 2010 12:09PM
Border violence spills onto Mexican ranches, farms
By CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN (AP) – Jul 7, 2010
LAREDO, Texas — Drug violence along the U.S.-Mexico border is spilling into the region's agriculture, threatening the safety of ranchers and farmers and slowing down what was expected to be the best harvest in years.
Ranchers now have trouble getting their animals to market. Farmers who once toiled long hours in the fields fear being attacked in the dark. Some are even being forced to pay protection money to keep from being kidnapped or having their harvest stolen.
In late 2007, the Mexican military tried to curb violence by entering urban areas along the eastern end of the border, an area prized by drug traffickers for its valuable smuggling routes.
The stepped-up military presence pushed more traffickers onto ranches and farms. In February, the fighting intensified after two allied gangs split and went to war with each other.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g7eFmQYNYedLUvXGn2LYx1kF1aRwD9GQCJ7O1
In what officials caution is now a dangerous and even deadly crime wave, Phoenix, Arizona has become the kidnapping capital of America, with more incidents than any other city in the world outside of Mexico City and over 370 cases last year alone. But local authorities say Washington, DC is too obsessed with al Qaeda terrorists to care about what is happening in their own backyard right now.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6848672&page=1
By CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN (AP) – Jul 7, 2010
LAREDO, Texas — Drug violence along the U.S.-Mexico border is spilling into the region's agriculture, threatening the safety of ranchers and farmers and slowing down what was expected to be the best harvest in years.
Ranchers now have trouble getting their animals to market. Farmers who once toiled long hours in the fields fear being attacked in the dark. Some are even being forced to pay protection money to keep from being kidnapped or having their harvest stolen.
In late 2007, the Mexican military tried to curb violence by entering urban areas along the eastern end of the border, an area prized by drug traffickers for its valuable smuggling routes.
The stepped-up military presence pushed more traffickers onto ranches and farms. In February, the fighting intensified after two allied gangs split and went to war with each other.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g7eFmQYNYedLUvXGn2LYx1kF1aRwD9GQCJ7O1
In what officials caution is now a dangerous and even deadly crime wave, Phoenix, Arizona has become the kidnapping capital of America, with more incidents than any other city in the world outside of Mexico City and over 370 cases last year alone. But local authorities say Washington, DC is too obsessed with al Qaeda terrorists to care about what is happening in their own backyard right now.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6848672&page=1
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Less
()
Date: August 03, 2010 12:14PM
LMAO! The stories people fall for.
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Capt. Obvious
()
Date: August 03, 2010 12:17PM
Less Wrote:
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> LMAO! The stories people fall for.
And you have proven it. Thanks. Do you get all your "news" from Rachel?
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> LMAO! The stories people fall for.
And you have proven it. Thanks. Do you get all your "news" from Rachel?
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Vince(1)
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Date: August 03, 2010 12:32PM
Capt. Obvious Wrote:
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> Less Wrote:
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> > LMAO! The stories people fall for.
>
> And you have proven it. Thanks. Do you get all
> your "news" from Rachel?
Are you defending the wingnut story? Where else besides right wing "news" sources do you get these kind of crazy stories? Maybe you beleive like AOLTROLL that people are being driven to hospitals in limo's. You are intentionally ignorant.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
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> Less Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LMAO! The stories people fall for.
>
> And you have proven it. Thanks. Do you get all
> your "news" from Rachel?
Are you defending the wingnut story? Where else besides right wing "news" sources do you get these kind of crazy stories? Maybe you beleive like AOLTROLL that people are being driven to hospitals in limo's. You are intentionally ignorant.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Capt. Obvious
()
Date: August 03, 2010 12:37PM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Capt. Obvious Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Less Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > LMAO! The stories people fall for.
> >
> > And you have proven it. Thanks. Do you get
> all
> > your "news" from Rachel?
>
> Are you defending the wingnut story? Where else
> besides right wing "news" sources do you get these
> kind of crazy stories?
AP, ABC News, and oh, Rachel's own network are right wing "news" sources?!?!?!?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22614102/
> Maybe you beleive like
> AOLTROLL that people are being driven to hospitals
> in limo's. You are intentionally ignorant.
I don't know anything about hospitals, but I do know that you fail to see the facts and search them out on your own. As I noted main stream news organizations such as ABC, AP, etc. all contradict Rachel's assertions. You can believe someone's misplaced interpretation of the news story or the news story itself.
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> Capt. Obvious Wrote:
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> -----
> > Less Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > LMAO! The stories people fall for.
> >
> > And you have proven it. Thanks. Do you get
> all
> > your "news" from Rachel?
>
> Are you defending the wingnut story? Where else
> besides right wing "news" sources do you get these
> kind of crazy stories?
AP, ABC News, and oh, Rachel's own network are right wing "news" sources?!?!?!?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22614102/
> Maybe you beleive like
> AOLTROLL that people are being driven to hospitals
> in limo's. You are intentionally ignorant.
I don't know anything about hospitals, but I do know that you fail to see the facts and search them out on your own. As I noted main stream news organizations such as ABC, AP, etc. all contradict Rachel's assertions. You can believe someone's misplaced interpretation of the news story or the news story itself.
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: August 03, 2010 12:40PM
Capt. Obvious Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
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> > Capt. Obvious Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Less Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > LMAO! The stories people fall for.
> > >
> > > And you have proven it. Thanks. Do you get
> > all
> > > your "news" from Rachel?
> >
> > Are you defending the wingnut story? Where
> else
> > besides right wing "news" sources do you get
> these
> > kind of crazy stories?
>
> AP, ABC News, and oh, Rachel's own network are
> right wing "news" sources?!?!?!?
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22614102/
>
>
> > Maybe you beleive like
> > AOLTROLL that people are being driven to
> hospitals
> > in limo's. You are intentionally ignorant.
>
> I don't know anything about hospitals, but I do
> know that you fail to see the facts and search
> them out on your own. As I noted main stream news
> organizations such as ABC, AP, etc. all contradict
> Rachel's assertions. You can believe someone's
> misplaced interpretation of the news story or the
> news story itself.
Listen up idiot....she was refering to one particulr story..not every story...and the best way to stop that violence is to either stop the never endding US demand for drugs or legalize the drugs.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
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> > Capt. Obvious Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Less Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > LMAO! The stories people fall for.
> > >
> > > And you have proven it. Thanks. Do you get
> > all
> > > your "news" from Rachel?
> >
> > Are you defending the wingnut story? Where
> else
> > besides right wing "news" sources do you get
> these
> > kind of crazy stories?
>
> AP, ABC News, and oh, Rachel's own network are
> right wing "news" sources?!?!?!?
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22614102/
>
>
> > Maybe you beleive like
> > AOLTROLL that people are being driven to
> hospitals
> > in limo's. You are intentionally ignorant.
>
> I don't know anything about hospitals, but I do
> know that you fail to see the facts and search
> them out on your own. As I noted main stream news
> organizations such as ABC, AP, etc. all contradict
> Rachel's assertions. You can believe someone's
> misplaced interpretation of the news story or the
> news story itself.
Listen up idiot....she was refering to one particulr story..not every story...and the best way to stop that violence is to either stop the never endding US demand for drugs or legalize the drugs.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Capt. Obvious
()
Date: August 03, 2010 12:49PM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Capt. Obvious Wrote:
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> > Vince(1) Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > Capt. Obvious Wrote:
> > >
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> >
> > > -----
> > > > Less Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > LMAO! The stories people fall for.
> > > >
> > > > And you have proven it. Thanks. Do you
> get
> > > all
> > > > your "news" from Rachel?
> > >
> > > Are you defending the wingnut story? Where
> > else
> > > besides right wing "news" sources do you get
> > these
> > > kind of crazy stories?
> >
> > AP, ABC News, and oh, Rachel's own network are
> > right wing "news" sources?!?!?!?
> >
> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22614102/
> >
> >
> > > Maybe you beleive like
> > > AOLTROLL that people are being driven to
> > hospitals
> > > in limo's. You are intentionally ignorant.
> >
> > I don't know anything about hospitals, but I do
> > know that you fail to see the facts and search
> > them out on your own. As I noted main stream
> news
> > organizations such as ABC, AP, etc. all
> contradict
> > Rachel's assertions. You can believe someone's
> > misplaced interpretation of the news story or
> the
> > news story itself.
>
>
> Listen up idiot....she was refering to one
> particulr story..not every story...and the best
> way to stop that violence is to either stop the
> never endding US demand for drugs or legalize the
> drugs.
Appareantly you didn't watch the whole clip. She referred to a few stories/assertions. This isn't about how to stop the violence this is about Rachel lying about others being liars. The title of her segment was "scaring white people for fun and profit." She went on to basically say the stories are bogus. Major news outlets, including her own, refute her assertion. I see you are one of her flock and refuse to check her supposed "facts."
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> Capt. Obvious Wrote:
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> > Vince(1) Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > Capt. Obvious Wrote:
> > >
> >
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>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Less Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > LMAO! The stories people fall for.
> > > >
> > > > And you have proven it. Thanks. Do you
> get
> > > all
> > > > your "news" from Rachel?
> > >
> > > Are you defending the wingnut story? Where
> > else
> > > besides right wing "news" sources do you get
> > these
> > > kind of crazy stories?
> >
> > AP, ABC News, and oh, Rachel's own network are
> > right wing "news" sources?!?!?!?
> >
> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22614102/
> >
> >
> > > Maybe you beleive like
> > > AOLTROLL that people are being driven to
> > hospitals
> > > in limo's. You are intentionally ignorant.
> >
> > I don't know anything about hospitals, but I do
> > know that you fail to see the facts and search
> > them out on your own. As I noted main stream
> news
> > organizations such as ABC, AP, etc. all
> contradict
> > Rachel's assertions. You can believe someone's
> > misplaced interpretation of the news story or
> the
> > news story itself.
>
>
> Listen up idiot....she was refering to one
> particulr story..not every story...and the best
> way to stop that violence is to either stop the
> never endding US demand for drugs or legalize the
> drugs.
Appareantly you didn't watch the whole clip. She referred to a few stories/assertions. This isn't about how to stop the violence this is about Rachel lying about others being liars. The title of her segment was "scaring white people for fun and profit." She went on to basically say the stories are bogus. Major news outlets, including her own, refute her assertion. I see you are one of her flock and refuse to check her supposed "facts."
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Less
()
Date: August 03, 2010 12:50PM
Capt. Obvious you've been duped.
You better check the actual sources.
You better check the actual sources.
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Capt. Obvious
()
Date: August 03, 2010 12:58PM
Less Wrote:
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> Capt. Obvious you've been duped.
Says the individual who gets their "news" from Rachel.
> You better check the actual sources.
Like Rachel's own network?
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> Capt. Obvious you've been duped.
Says the individual who gets their "news" from Rachel.
> You better check the actual sources.
Like Rachel's own network?
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Less
()
Date: August 03, 2010 01:23PM
Capt. Obvious Wrote:
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> Less Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Capt. Obvious you've been duped.
>
> Says the individual who gets their "news" from
> Rachel.
>
> > You better check the actual sources.
>
> Like Rachel's own network?
Are you referring to the story you posted a link to that is from January of 2008? The Bush years?
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> Less Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Capt. Obvious you've been duped.
>
> Says the individual who gets their "news" from
> Rachel.
>
> > You better check the actual sources.
>
> Like Rachel's own network?
Are you referring to the story you posted a link to that is from January of 2008? The Bush years?
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Capt. Obvious
()
Date: August 03, 2010 01:27PM
Less Wrote:
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> Capt. Obvious Wrote:
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> > Less Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > Capt. Obvious you've been duped.
> >
> > Says the individual who gets their "news" from
> > Rachel.
> >
> > > You better check the actual sources.
> >
> > Like Rachel's own network?
>
> Are you referring to the story you posted a link
> to that is from January of 2008? The Bush years?
I am referring to any story from 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 that directly refutes Rachel's bogus analysis. They all prove she is barking up the wrong tree. Being part of her flock, I wouldn't expect you to comprhend logic though.
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> Capt. Obvious Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Less Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Capt. Obvious you've been duped.
> >
> > Says the individual who gets their "news" from
> > Rachel.
> >
> > > You better check the actual sources.
> >
> > Like Rachel's own network?
>
> Are you referring to the story you posted a link
> to that is from January of 2008? The Bush years?
I am referring to any story from 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 that directly refutes Rachel's bogus analysis. They all prove she is barking up the wrong tree. Being part of her flock, I wouldn't expect you to comprhend logic though.
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Less
()
Date: August 03, 2010 01:27PM
And by the way, that story confirms what Rachel's is quoting -
"But police soon realize her family is holding something back and isn't fully cooperating with them. Later, investigators find out that relatives have arranged the woman's release on their own. And they discover that members of the family are heavy into marijuana trafficking."
"But police soon realize her family is holding something back and isn't fully cooperating with them. Later, investigators find out that relatives have arranged the woman's release on their own. And they discover that members of the family are heavy into marijuana trafficking."
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Capt. Obvious
()
Date: August 03, 2010 01:33PM
Less Wrote:
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> And by the way, that story confirms what Rachel's
> is quoting -
>
> "But police soon realize her family is holding
> something back and isn't fully cooperating with
> them. Later, investigators find out that relatives
> have arranged the woman's release on their own.
> And they discover that members of the family are
> heavy into marijuana trafficking."
Why am I not surprised?
Great, she got one tiny morsel correct out of a whole segment. Yay for Rachel. Now, if she could get 99% of the rest of the facts straight, she might be a credible source.
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> And by the way, that story confirms what Rachel's
> is quoting -
>
> "But police soon realize her family is holding
> something back and isn't fully cooperating with
> them. Later, investigators find out that relatives
> have arranged the woman's release on their own.
> And they discover that members of the family are
> heavy into marijuana trafficking."
Why am I not surprised?
Great, she got one tiny morsel correct out of a whole segment. Yay for Rachel. Now, if she could get 99% of the rest of the facts straight, she might be a credible source.
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: August 03, 2010 01:39PM
LOL @ Capn Crunch...I mean Obvious.
DUH!
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
DUH!
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
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Rachel's Credibility Problem
()
Date: August 03, 2010 01:44PM
"On her MSNBC show last year, the left-wing Air America host Rachel Maddow took a swipe at the conservative Shirley & Banister Public Affairs firm, specifically President and CEO Craig Shirley. Maddow accused Shirley of being behind a grassroots Web site funded by the group Grassfire.org, based on a research provided by the “independent watchdog group Public Citizen,” and she showed still images from an incendiary “Obama=Hitler” video that’s posted on the Grassfire’s ResistNet.com Web site.
But Maddow was wrong. The Public Citizen web page she cited is several years old. Shirley & Banister hasn’t represented Grassfire.org since 2004. And Diana Banister, a partner and Vice President at Shirley & Banister, told NewsBusters that Maddow’s false report has led to hate mail and even death threats to the public relations firm."
But Maddow was wrong. The Public Citizen web page she cited is several years old. Shirley & Banister hasn’t represented Grassfire.org since 2004. And Diana Banister, a partner and Vice President at Shirley & Banister, told NewsBusters that Maddow’s false report has led to hate mail and even death threats to the public relations firm."
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Capt. Obvious
()
Date: August 03, 2010 01:46PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> LOL @ Capn Crunch...I mean Obvious.
>
> DUH!
What an insightful and thoughtful contribution you have made to the thread. You must be extremely successful. DUH!? More like Baaa in your case.
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> LOL @ Capn Crunch...I mean Obvious.
>
> DUH!
What an insightful and thoughtful contribution you have made to the thread. You must be extremely successful. DUH!? More like Baaa in your case.
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
FUNdamental
()
Date: August 03, 2010 03:22PM
Phoenix is not the "kidnapping capital." That claim has already been debunked.
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: August 03, 2010 04:26PM
FUNdamental Wrote:
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> Phoenix is not the "kidnapping capital." That
> claim has already been debunked.
It sure made for some good "TV-politicin'" though.....
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I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
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> Phoenix is not the "kidnapping capital." That
> claim has already been debunked.
It sure made for some good "TV-politicin'" though.....
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: More Republicans Get the facts their facts backass wrong
Posted by:
Capt. Obvious
()
Date: August 03, 2010 04:30PM
FUNdamental Wrote:
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> Phoenix is not the "kidnapping capital." That
> claim has already been debunked.
Apparently MSNBC, ABC News, etc. didn't get the memo. So, who is to blame for the propulgation of this "myth" (if it is in fact a myth)? The media? The people that rely on them to be accurate?
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> Phoenix is not the "kidnapping capital." That
> claim has already been debunked.
Apparently MSNBC, ABC News, etc. didn't get the memo. So, who is to blame for the propulgation of this "myth" (if it is in fact a myth)? The media? The people that rely on them to be accurate?