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The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: I am Spunky ()
Date: June 09, 2010 01:14AM

The military thinks to much about appearances to ever allow gays to operate in the military in anything other then the current SOP.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: June 09, 2010 02:14AM

Like I've said before, I knew a guy who was extremely effective within his unit, and he was well liked by his peers, but his sexuality was questionable. However, he never brought it up, nor made any sort of issue out of it, so no one else made an issue out of it either. Flaunting it would be a problem in my view though, and if DADT is repealed, it'll inevitably happen.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: June 09, 2010 07:04AM

I really hate to break the new to you - but gays are seving, have served, and will continue to serve. Rush Limbaugh said it on his radio show, so it must be true.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: June 09, 2010 11:02AM

The bullets from a rifle fired by a gay man have the same effect as a rifle fired by a straight woman. If I'm bleeding out after being wounded in combat, the last thing I care about is the sexual orientation of the person trying to save my life.

I can see where the "bad for morale" argument comes from, but I'm sure that was the same argument used when it came to women or black men serving.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Flamer ()
Date: June 09, 2010 11:55AM

A bunch of hunking men showering naked together. Oh snap!

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Maybe ()
Date: June 09, 2010 12:24PM

I'm not sure they will ever allow them to openly serve. It's a huge hassle and like Mephisto mentioned, the morale issue would be huge. They would have to provide separate shower and housing facilities for the gay folks. If men and women can't shower together, then men who are attracted to men can't be allowed to shower with straight guys.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: June 09, 2010 12:33PM

Maybe Wrote:
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> They would have to provide separate shower and housing
> facilities for the gay folks.




Yeah that won't be expensive to set up....


I don't know what to make of this new policy as views from members of the military on homosexuality range from "I don't care" to "burn them on a stake before they molest a kid!"

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: June 09, 2010 01:23PM

Maybe Wrote:
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> I'm not sure they will ever allow them to openly
> serve. It's a huge hassle and like Mephisto
> mentioned, the morale issue would be huge.

I said I can see where people can say "it will be a morale issue," but I guarantee that within a couple years, it will be no different than women or "minorities" serving in the military. People said those sorts of things would lead to a fundamental breakdown of the military's effectiveness, too.

> They would have to provide separate shower and housing
> facilities for the gay folks. If men and women
> can't shower together, then men who are attracted
> to men can't be allowed to shower with straight
> guys.

This argument is based on the assumption that every gay person acts like the cast from "Queer Eye For The Straight Guy," and absolutely cannot contain his sexual urges. If some gay guy is grabbing your ass or your pecker while you're taking a shower, constantly flirting with you, etc., then resolve the problem under existing sexual harassment policies.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: June 09, 2010 01:53PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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>
> I said I can see where people can say "it will be
> a morale issue," but I guarantee that within a
> couple years, it will be no different than women
> or "minorities" serving in the military. People
> said those sorts of things would lead to a
> fundamental breakdown of the military's
> effectiveness, too.
>

>
> This argument is based on the assumption that
> every gay person acts like the cast from "Queer
> Eye For The Straight Guy," and absolutely cannot
> contain his sexual urges. If some gay guy is
> grabbing your ass or your pecker while you're
> taking a shower, constantly flirting with you,
> etc., then resolve the problem under existing
> sexual harassment policies.



1. For many people, homosexuality is on another level than women and minorities serving alongside white males. Yes, there were protests against ending a segregated military, but many servicemen and Americans in general have very strong negative opinions about gay people.

2. As far as the cookie cutter/stereotypical Queer as Folk gay man, for some this is the only type of homosexual. Many do not consider there can be a normal, average acting gay person, they are all flamboyant and promiscuous sissies.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Ernie Bilko ()
Date: June 09, 2010 02:16PM

I can see it now. Gay marriages in the Post Chapel? Spousal benefits for
same-sex partners? Who gets to share a pup-tent with Ross the Intern?
No thanks. I'd rather not see all that happening especially if there's
no way to ignore it.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: June 09, 2010 02:28PM

eesh Wrote:
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> 1. For many people, homosexuality is on another
> level than women and minorities serving alongside
> white males. Yes, there were protests against
> ending a segregated military, but many servicemen
> and Americans in general have very strong negative
> opinions about gay people.

I get that, but there's really no practical reason why a gay male can't be just as good a soldier as a straight male. The younger generations are more accepting of gays than the older generations. There will be a few years where adjustment is difficult, but the culture will change to the point where serving beside gays is no different than serving beside "minorities."

That said, I wouldn't support transgendered people serving in the military at this time. I'd like to see more information on how feasable that would be, from a medical standpoint.

> 2. As far as the cookie cutter/stereotypical Queer
> as Folk gay man, for some this is the only type of
> homosexual. Many do not consider there can be a
> normal, average acting gay person, they are all
> flamboyant and promiscuous sissies.

Well, that's just petty ignorance, similar to "all black people steal" and "all mexicans are illegal job stealers." I'm sure if there were more examples of non-flaming gay people on the television, that would help.

Besides, look at how many supposedly straight people in the Government get busted for doing gay shit. EDIT: They're not prancing around the House looking like Elton John or Liberace, but still love the penis.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/09/2010 02:29PM by MrMephisto.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: June 09, 2010 02:36PM

Ernie Bilko Wrote:
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> I can see it now. Gay marriages in the Post
> Chapel? Spousal benefits for same-sex partners?
> Who gets to share a pup-tent with Ross the Intern?
> No thanks. I'd rather not see all that happening
> especially if there's no way to ignore it.

The concept of "smart phones" was science-fiction nonsense, even ten years ago. Twenty years ago, the idea that states would allow gays to get married was laughable. There's still a lot of people in the country who can remember when blacks were legally segregated against.

Times are changing, and the dialogue about gay rights has really only started to pick up in the past 10 or 15 years. In another 30 years, there will be people who can't remember a time when gays COULDN'T get married.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: I am Spunky ()
Date: June 09, 2010 08:56PM

Reconsider that thought Msfist. This is a different atmosphere where gays are associated with being a pediphile, thanks to the child loving Catholics. You see if you give someone or a lot of someones enough rope they will eventually hang themselves. Races are one thing but this way of life is not acceptable to the conservative Americans.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: I am Spunky ()
Date: June 17, 2010 05:57PM

I think the fact that most of the laws for gay marriage are not put to a public vote put passed through gov't legislation. This tells me this is all about politics, and creating a favorable base.

A recent study says that children raised by Lesibans were happy and well-adjusted. But no one has mentioned who sponsored that study and for what agenda.

By the way there's no such study about gays. Wonder why? Could it be the pediphile effect? You know this effect proven by the Catholic priest?

The people in general are aware of this fact as if they have went slapped in the face with this fact.

The military has enough problems currently and knowingly allowing gays in goes against their grain and that will prevail over all else.

Those countries with gays in the military are not strong countries, could this be the reason ?

How many fags have seen on the front page of a newspaper as a hero ?

RIGHT!


MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Ernie Bilko Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I can see it now. Gay marriages in the Post
> > Chapel? Spousal benefits for same-sex partners?
>
> > Who gets to share a pup-tent with Ross the
> Intern?
> > No thanks. I'd rather not see all that
> happening
> > especially if there's no way to ignore it.
>
> The concept of "smart phones" was science-fiction
> nonsense, even ten years ago. Twenty years ago,
> the idea that states would allow gays to get
> married was laughable. There's still a lot of
> people in the country who can remember when blacks
> were legally segregated against.
>
> Times are changing, and the dialogue about gay
> rights has really only started to pick up in the
> past 10 or 15 years. In another 30 years, there
> will be people who can't remember a time when gays
> COULDN'T get married.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: June 17, 2010 06:48PM

I am Spunky Wrote:
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> I think the fact that most of the laws for gay
> marriage are not put to a public vote put passed
> through gov't legislation. This tells me this is
> all about politics, and creating a favorable
> base.
>
> A recent study says that children raised by
> Lesibans were happy and well-adjusted. But no one
> has mentioned who sponsored that study and for
> what agenda.
>
> By the way there's no such study about gays.
> Wonder why? Could it be the pediphile effect? You
> know this effect proven by the Catholic priest?
>
> The people in general are aware of this fact as if
> they have went slapped in the face with this fact.
>
>
> The military has enough problems currently and
> knowingly allowing gays in goes against their
> grain and that will prevail over all else.
>
> Those countries with gays in the military are not
> strong countries, could this be the reason ?
>
> How many fags have seen on the front page of a
> newspaper as a hero ?
>
> RIGHT!
>
>
> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ernie Bilko Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I can see it now. Gay marriages in the Post
> > > Chapel? Spousal benefits for same-sex
> partners?
> >
> > > Who gets to share a pup-tent with Ross the
> > Intern?
> > > No thanks. I'd rather not see all that
> > happening
> > > especially if there's no way to ignore it.
> >
> > The concept of "smart phones" was
> science-fiction
> > nonsense, even ten years ago. Twenty years
> ago,
> > the idea that states would allow gays to get
> > married was laughable. There's still a lot of
> > people in the country who can remember when
> blacks
> > were legally segregated against.
> >
> > Times are changing, and the dialogue about gay
> > rights has really only started to pick up in
> the
> > past 10 or 15 years. In another 30 years,
> there
> > will be people who can't remember a time when
> gays
> > COULDN'T get married.


Your homophobia is discusting.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: I am Spunky ()
Date: June 17, 2010 08:02PM

Not! Wrong again! The truth hurts I know! But that doesn't mean I am a homopho.

Stupid
logic
means
Meade is here.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Proressive Guy ()
Date: June 17, 2010 08:19PM

Eventually their will be no army to find these wars. Personally I would not want to serve, but if I were to excluded because of my sexual preference, it has become personal.

Remember what they said in nasty(nazi) Germany--


"First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me."

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: R u a gay Jew? ()
Date: June 17, 2010 09:16PM

Had to ask.

I have just noticed that the same person must be posting here because when one stops posting they all stop. Interesting?

Vince I will recant everything I have posted here regarding gays if you can find a front page gay hero, k?

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: June 17, 2010 09:28PM

now shove it up your ass!

http://vimeo.com/5923753

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Wrong Vince ()
Date: June 17, 2010 09:39PM

No frontpager fag. Try again?

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: I am Spunky ()
Date: June 17, 2010 09:42PM

By the way Vince?

Did you learn anything by that video?

It just reinforces my point.


Fool!

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: June 18, 2010 04:48PM

I am Spunky Wrote:
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> By the way Vince?
>
> Did you learn anything by that video?
>
> It just reinforces my point.
>
>
> Fool!


Well..tell me what you learned you homophobic bitch!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: June 18, 2010 05:15PM

Watching Vince and spunky argue is a very entertaining experience.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: .Jerry.Rubin ()
Date: June 18, 2010 06:06PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Watching Vince and spunky argue is a very
> entertaining experience.

Watching Vince's comments on anything to do with the military is hysterical.
I don't know why he bothers but his stupidity is entertaining in a warped
way.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: June 18, 2010 08:37PM

.Jerry.Rubin Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Watching Vince and spunky argue is a very
> > entertaining experience.
>
> Watching Vince's comments on anything to do with
> the military is hysterical.
> I don't know why he bothers but his stupidity is
> entertaining in a warped
> way.

Your comments on anything I post are meaningless....and Eesh, lets just say is he pure annoying pap

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: June 18, 2010 09:18PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Your comments on anything I post are
> meaningless....and Eesh, lets just say is he pure
> annoying pap




I have never been called password authentication protocol. I don't know if I should be insulted or not...

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: .Jerry.Rubin ()
Date: June 19, 2010 06:49AM

eesh Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Your comments on anything I post are
> > meaningless....and Eesh, lets just say is he
> pure
> > annoying pap
>
>
>
> I have never been called password authentication
> protocol. I don't know if I should be insulted or
> not...


LOL! PAP (Polu-automatska puška) Vince wouldn't know where to find the
magazine well to load it.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: June 19, 2010 09:23AM

.Jerry.Rubin Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vince(1) Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > Your comments on anything I post are
> > > meaningless....and Eesh, lets just say is he
> > pure
> > > annoying pap
> >
> >
> >
> > I have never been called password
> authentication
> > protocol. I don't know if I should be insulted
> or
> > not...
>
>
> LOL! PAP (Polu-automatska puška) Vince wouldn't
> know where to find the
> magazine well to load it.


Guns..the great equalizer for those who need help feeling equal.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: .Jerry.Rubin ()
Date: June 19, 2010 10:18AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> .Jerry.Rubin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > eesh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Vince(1) Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > >
> > > > Your comments on anything I post are
> > > > meaningless....and Eesh, lets just say is
> he
> > > pure
> > > > annoying pap
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have never been called password
> > authentication
> > > protocol. I don't know if I should be
> insulted
> > or
> > > not...
> >
> >
> > LOL! PAP (Polu-automatska puška) Vince wouldn't
> > know where to find the
> > magazine well to load it.
>
>
> Guns..the great equalizer for those who need help
> feeling equal.


You tell'em General!

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: October 19, 2010 11:52PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11580459



The US military has started accepting gay recruits after a California judge last week struck down the "don't ask, don't tell" policy barring openly gay people from serving.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: weirdo ()
Date: October 20, 2010 12:00AM

vience worked for the dod but hated them so much. Kinda funny he was always bashing them

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: October 20, 2010 12:22AM

Vince was a closet fag himself.

This is just what our Military needs; a bunch of faggots thinking
it is okay to prance around like the mentally derranged and sexually
perverted loons that queers are. Serves a country right that doesn't
know the importance of border security and one that asks certain
skin color people to obey the law while others are allowed to
openly break laws while police look the other way. But God forbid
if someone has a shade or two darker tint than allowed.

THIS INJUNCTION IS A RESULT OF SOME FAGGOT JUDGE IN CALIFORNIA
DEFIANTLY TRYING TO GO AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE TO SERVE
HIS/HER GAY-PERVERTED PERSONAL AGENDA.
.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: October 20, 2010 01:29AM

man, I do miss I am Spunky. Where did she go?

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: October 20, 2010 01:55AM

Ha! You would miss a faggot practicing his faggotry.

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: just askin ()
Date: October 20, 2010 03:02AM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> Vince was a closet fag himself.
>
> This is just what our Military needs; a bunch of
> faggots thinking
> it is okay to prance around like the mentally
> derranged and sexually
> perverted loons that queers are. Serves a country
> right that doesn't
> know the importance of border security and one
> that asks certain
> skin color people to obey the law while others are
> allowed to
> openly break laws while police look the other way.
> But God forbid
> if someone has a shade or two darker tint than
> allowed.
>
> THIS INJUNCTION IS A RESULT OF SOME FAGGOT JUDGE
> IN CALIFORNIA
> DEFIANTLY TRYING TO GO AGAINST THE WILL OF THE
> PEOPLE TO SERVE
> HIS/HER GAY-PERVERTED PERSONAL AGENDA.
> .



no offense but

are you a black, closeted homosexual?

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Re: The military will never allow gays to serve in the military. . .
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: October 20, 2010 03:06AM

No offense, but YOU obviously are.

Just sayin'.
.

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"Why don't you LOSERS just pack your flower print DOUCHE BAGS
and get your stoopid @$$#$ THE FUCK OFF MY INTERNETZ!"

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