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Why the disconnect between stocks and the economy is worrying
Posted by: Socialist Capitalism ()
Date: June 03, 2020 12:14PM

But beyond worrying that assets like stocks are due for a nasty correction, there's another reason to be concerned about the disconnect between stocks and the wider economy, Jan Dehn, head of research at Ashmore Group, an investment management firm focused on emerging markets, told clients this week.


Dehn argues that stocks and bonds — which have been buoyed by record support from governments and central banks — have effectively become too big to fail.
"If central banks were to allow asset prices to reflect the actual underlying fundamentals — record levels of debt, record low productivity growth, record unemployment, record populism — the resulting crashes in financial markets would be so large that most Western economies would be plunged into deep and lasting depressions," Dehn told clients.


This isn't a viable outcome — which means investors have bet that they can count on central banks to keep propping up markets. "So far, they have been right," Dehn said.

See here: The European Central Bank on Thursday is expected to expand its massive coronavirus-era bond buying program, providing fresh support.
So why is this a problem? Dehn said he's worried that volatility will decline, hitting investment margins. Productivity, he fears, will also decrease as markets cease to weed out the laggards and encourage risk taking.

"As markets are put out of action through ever greater government intervention — de facto shifts towards old fashioned state planning — then markets cease to perform one of their most important functions, namely to bring down unsustainable economic systems," he said. "Instead, the system is condemned to a slow death from the inside."

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Re: Why the disconnect between stocks and the economy is worrying
Posted by: MAGA in action ()
Date: June 03, 2020 12:15PM

Get with the program.

Trump breaks EVERYTHING.

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Re: Why the disconnect between stocks and the economy is worrying
Posted by: America is opening back up ()
Date: June 03, 2020 12:16PM

People are tired of being locked in the house and want to get out this summer.

It doesn't help to have liberal fagtards burning and looting small businesses.

Don't they want America to recover?

Can't you find a better way to show you are afraid of black people?

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Re: Why the disconnect between stocks and the economy is worrying
Posted by: We printed a lot of money ()
Date: June 03, 2020 12:21PM

3 trillion in the last few months. It had to go somewhere, while arrangements were being made for more permanent storage.

Of course, Trump's tax cuts did much the same things. We borrowed a lot of money to do that, too, but of course when the market tanked that all went up in smoke. Or at least the money did, the debt remains the same.

Hope that does not happen again.

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Re: Why the disconnect between stocks and the economy is worrying
Posted by: i agree w/ you ()
Date: June 03, 2020 12:23PM

We printed a lot of money Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> 3 trillion in the last few months. It had to go
> somewhere, while arrangements were being made for
> more permanent storage.
>
> Of course, Trump's tax cuts did much the same
> things. We borrowed a lot of money to do that,
> too, but of course when the market tanked that all
> went up in smoke. Or at least the money did, the
> debt remains the same.
>
> Hope that does not happen again.

I agree but I don't think the solution is to vote for Biden. He is a dementia addled racist moron!

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Re: Why the disconnect between stocks and the economy is worrying
Posted by: The American President ()
Date: June 03, 2020 12:23PM

Socialist Capitalism Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> But beyond worrying that assets like stocks are
> due for a nasty correction, there's another reason
> to be concerned about the disconnect between
> stocks and the wider economy, Jan Dehn, head of
> research at Ashmore Group, an investment
> management firm focused on emerging markets, told
> clients this week.
>
>
> Dehn argues that stocks and bonds — which have
> been buoyed by record support from governments and
> central banks — have effectively become too big
> to fail.
> "If central banks were to allow asset prices to
> reflect the actual underlying fundamentals —
> record levels of debt, record low productivity
> growth, record unemployment, record populism —
> the resulting crashes in financial markets would
> be so large that most Western economies would be
> plunged into deep and lasting depressions," Dehn
> told clients.
>
>
> This isn't a viable outcome — which means
> investors have bet that they can count on central
> banks to keep propping up markets. "So far, they
> have been right," Dehn said.
>
> See here: The European Central Bank on Thursday is
> expected to expand its massive coronavirus-era
> bond buying program, providing fresh support.
> So why is this a problem? Dehn said he's worried
> that volatility will decline, hitting investment
> margins. Productivity, he fears, will also
> decrease as markets cease to weed out the laggards
> and encourage risk taking.
>
> "As markets are put out of action through ever
> greater government intervention — de facto
> shifts towards old fashioned state planning —
> then markets cease to perform one of their most
> important functions, namely to bring down
> unsustainable economic systems," he said.
> "Instead, the system is condemned to a slow death
> from the inside."


You still sitting it out asswipe? Didn't you get out in December and bragging about it - missing the 35% gains of April and May? Must suck to be a democrat today. Wishing the economy collapses. Wishing Americans die of a Chicom virus. Wishing the stock market crashes. Wishes for rioting, looting and arson in our cities. What miserable fucks you anti-American pieces of shit are.

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Re: Why the disconnect between stocks and the economy is worrying
Posted by: regbrew ()
Date: June 03, 2020 12:30PM

MAGA in action Wrote:
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> Get with the program.
>
> Trump breaks EVERYTHING.


Gerrymanderer2 (G2, the OP original poster or spammer just above, perhaps both) posts several lies on ffu daily - many think he's a fx co gov worker who is getting paid to do it for false DNC democrat "advertising". He floods ffu with useless posts to bump down major news, demoralize americans. G2 posts fecal matter, mutilated bodies, child porn, foreign drug ads and sneaker ads, tells people to kill themselves and government should seize them and put them on psych pills in prison without a trial - decided by DNC democrats gov workers, promotes kangaroo courthouse trials, gives anti-religious rants, gives satanic ritual rants, posts black males with large dicks on white young females, portends white low birth rate and fall of USA whites, suggestive of food tampering/poisoning to solve the white problem, and anything possible to demoralize any americans on ffu - all of which are fake news he never responds to proofs it is fake. (perhaps g2 is a chinese prisoner or isis member - but definitely knowledgeable of fx co gov from the inside at times). The website operator has told him "not to post or return" (in an existing post by the sysop): not because of a political leaning but for continual illegal and gross spam along with messages that are only to demoralize if not kill others. G2 plays at financial terrorism as well; continually reporting fake and false financial data. G2 fakes emergency pleas to deaden the real response to any real one - like a devil. G2 continually spams FFU - which all users complain of: it is a real DoS attack - the attacks are not just topic bumps but designed to inject key words to kill ffu and google search results. G2 continually promotes drug use, alcoholic experimentation, and tries to convince members to meet hookers using photos from the 1990's (i doubt any that did are not arrested or dead). G2 continually posts racist posts and gay posts egging others to comment - then attacks who does - AND RECORDS IT (likely for political extortion). G2 and dems MONITOR AND RECORD* "conservatives who blast out these democrat lies and illegal abuse of telephone privilege (sometimes in a raw manner, being so jaded by the job)" (users who object to G2's actions listed so far). One ffu member discovered a south american country recording FFU databasing all posts in a non-chat database format - and when questioned - another member quickly said it was all coincidence and that this was done everywhere in the world on all sites: WHICH IS A LIE. Not all countries record the every word of what fairfaxians say on blogs. Extortion is also mentioned by G2. And the idea he's fishing for comments he can use against anyone who'd run for office is "just assume he's in that business" - and i've warned others that is what he fishes for - excuses to attack conservatives and or to extort them.

SOME POSTERS ON FFU FEEL G2 IS A JOKER: I ASSURE YOU THE ABOVE COMPLAINTS ARE GENUINELY A THREAT TO ONLOOKERS (THE UN-INTIATED), NON-DEMOCRATS, AND TO ANYONE STATING THAT LAWS SHOULD BE IMPOSED ON DEMOCRATS EQUALLY AS DEMOCRATS IMPOSE THEM ON OTHERS: MONEY

LEGAL NOTICE: DEMOCRATS HAVE `SWATTED' THE HOMES OF SOME FFU POSTS WHO REFUTE G2 AND CALL DEMS OUT ON THEFT AND LIES - AND EXPOSE THE LAWS THEY COULD BE PROSECUTED FOR BREACH OF TRUST. THAT'S A CONFIRMED WITNESSED FACT. IT IS NO JOKE WHAT G2 IS DOING. HIS CONTINUAL FISHING IS NOT IDLE - THEY ARE TRIGGERED AND ARMED. which i've warned others about since, about 2010 - that G2 is fishing for men to "erase" politically, by any means available to him


G2 has now been wimpering that anti-G2 posts are "unfair" and that users who protest G2 should be blocked, SWATTED (see above), and forced on medications (see above), and that "someone else is G2". However - do not let the vicious foreign attacker fool you into your death our out of your community: G2 has been active since exactly the beginning of 2017 "hillary has already won the election" set of lies and has only DOUBLED spam recently - yes the suicide taunting of others, false information, and all else listed above. He is not wimpering for help he has doubled the spam and vicious attacks (or they, communist/facist using federal money. I pinned him correctly when I began this warning post.

GO BACK TO HELL G2. YOU ARE EXPOSED.

STOCKS GO UP AND DOWN - the current cycle is not unusual, shifts to non-volatile "locked up" investments



COVID19 cases were almost wholey reported by democrat run illegal alien infested areas WHO LIED ON THE CERTIFICATE, like they lie on everything, who EXTENDED LOCKDOWN against federal suggestion

TRUMP REFUSED TO TAKE PART AND WARNED GOVERNORS were individually responsible for their PLANNED LOCKDOWN OUTCOMES

CNN promoted riots, FOX sympathized (they should not have)

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Re: Why the disconnect between stocks and the economy is worrying
Posted by: o9sdfj ()
Date: June 03, 2020 12:39PM


GOOGLE / CHINA ARM HAS PUBLISHED FAKE INFORMATION ABOUT STOCKS AND CLAIM THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ERRORS

YOU SEARCH ONE TIME A CHART IS ON THE INTERNET SAYING BIGGEST DROP EVER

YOU SEARCH ANOTHER SOURCE, (SAY, DJI) - YOU FIND DJI IS ONLY SLIGHTLY DOWN AND UP ON THE AVERAGE

YOU SEARCH DOW JONES AND YOU FIND OUT IT IS CURRENTLY AFFILIATED (ADMITTED IN UK LEGAL STATEMENT) WITH UK, NEW YORK POST, AUSTRALIA, AND MANY OTHER FAR LEFT NEWS ORGANIZATIONS

THE SEEDY GREEDY ORGANIZATIONS NEVER HAVE FOLLOWED ANY LAWS. AND WOULD GLADLY FEED YOU FAKE INFORMATION

EXACTLY LIKE G2 WOULD


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Re: Why the disconnect between stocks and the economy is worrying
Posted by: Look at it this way ()
Date: June 03, 2020 12:47PM

i agree w/ you Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> We printed a lot of money Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 3 trillion in the last few months. It had to
> go
> > somewhere, while arrangements were being made
> for
> > more permanent storage.
> >
> > Of course, Trump's tax cuts did much the same
> > things. We borrowed a lot of money to do that,
> > too, but of course when the market tanked that
> all
> > went up in smoke. Or at least the money did,
> the
> > debt remains the same.
> >
> > Hope that does not happen again.
>
> I agree but I don't think the solution is to vote
> for Biden. He is a dementia addled racist moron!

We have seen Trump's decision making. Biden will probably do what every president has done before Trump. Get decent advisors and listen to them.
If you are not a 'yes man' for Trump 'you're fired'. People are tired of angry tweety bird Trump.

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Re: Why the disconnect between stocks and the economy is worrying
Posted by: KD7TY ()
Date: June 03, 2020 01:58PM

Investors look to the future.

It is clear that the democrats and the left are paving the way for President Trump to clean up this country just as General Augusto Pinochet did in Chile in 1973.

President Pinochet's political reforms brought phenomenal prosperity to Chile for the next three decades. Very few eggs had to be broken to make that omelet, and they were all subhuman communists anyway.

The lesson that President Pinochet taught the world is that peace, prosperity, and maximizing individual freedom for those equipped to appreciate and sustain it is simple to accomplish. All that needs to be done is to create an environment where leftists are mortally afraid to open their lying pieholes.

Thank you, ANTIFA!

Thank you, BLM!

Thank you, democrat traitors!

You are paving the way for President Trump to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

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