http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/12/toyota-autos-hoax-media-opinions-contributors-michael-fumento_3.html

This guy looked and talked like a complete seed on TV, I don't trust him for anything. I kept wondering how someone would have time for a 911 call but couldn't get his bearings to put the car into neutral. WTF is the 911 dispatch going to tell you to do, steer into a lake and fasten your seatbelt?

WingNut Wrote:
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> This guy looked and talked like a complete seed on
> TV, I don't trust him for anything. I kept
> wondering how someone would have time for a 911
> call but couldn't get his bearings to put the car
> into neutral. WTF is the 911 dispatch going to
> tell you to do, steer into a lake and fasten your
> seatbelt?


Yeah that was hokie as hell. Glad to see MSM get taken for a ride every so often. Keeps things honest IMO. That said, they'll be sacrificing this guy just as quick.

Like this woman! Despite her almost being killed by her demon possessed Lexus, she sold it to another person who has not has a single problem with it, and Toyota has since taken possession of it and can't replicate the problem.

I love the phoney pause and sobs after saying "I called my husband on the Blue Tooth Phone" because to my knowledge Blue Tooth doesn't make "phones".

Also this lady, and her performance are bullshit.

This whole thing Is the product of the Liberal Media's boredom due to lack of news storys.

Hey, I heard that Balloon Boy Daddy was released from jail, maybe he orchestrated this nonsense for his new reality series.

I always enjoy how these people are doing 100 mph on busy freeways and have time to call 911 and the problem seems to resolve itself after the cops show up.

I think you have a lot of crazy attention whores who want money from Toyota who are cashing in on the incident with the cop who got killed in the Lexus. As for that incident, keep in mind it was a loaner car with a push button ignition. I have one in my car and if you are not familiar with it, shift into neutral is NOT intuitive. I do think something happened with that car (stuck accelerator, fucked up cruise control), but I don't believe the prick from San Diego and I am even starting to question the lady who testified before Congress.

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WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I always enjoy how these people are doing 100 mph
> on busy freeways and have time to call 911 and the
> problem seems to resolve itself after the cops
> show up.
>
> I think you have a lot of crazy attention whores
> who want money from Toyota who are cashing in on
> the incident with the cop who got killed in the
> Lexus. As for that incident, keep in mind it was a
> loaner car with a push button ignition. I have one
> in my car and if you are not familiar with it,
> shift into neutral is NOT intuitive. I do think
> something happened with that car (stuck
> accelerator, fucked up cruise control), but I
> don't believe the prick from San Diego and I am
> even starting to question the lady who testified
> before Congress.


If the woman that testified before Congress was so afraid of her Lexus after the incident, she had no right to sell it to someone else. She lost credibility for that.

Plus, her Lexus doesn't have an anemic engine, the way she described her ordeal made it sound like it took ten minutes to reach over 100 mph.

This guy seemed like a fruitcake. But clearly Toyota has had some problems with the electronic throttles. Google Toyota and "throttle lag". It's been a big problem for about 3-4 years. Their drive by wire accelerator pedals have not been responding appropriately since their inception. Usually, it was the opposite of a run-away throttle....but how hard could it be for the situation to be reversed?

The answer to stopping one of these runaway cars is: CTRL-ALT-DELETE!!

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> If the woman that testified before Congress was so
> afraid of her Lexus after the incident, she had no
> right to sell it to someone else.

no right? are you retarded?


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

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>
> no right? are you retarded?


If her Lexus was as dangerous as she made it out to be, then she shouldn't have sold it to someone else. It makes her look bad by testifying before Congress about her unsafe car that she had no problem pawning off to someone else.

Gravis Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
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> > If the woman that testified before Congress was
> so
> > afraid of her Lexus after the incident, she had
> no
> > right to sell it to someone else.
>
> no right? are you retarded?

no, you're retarded gravis.
stfu if you can't understand english

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> Gravis Wrote:
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>
> >
> > no right? are you retarded?
>
>
> If her Lexus was as dangerous as she made it out
> to be, then she shouldn't have sold it to someone
> else. It makes her look bad by testifying before
> Congress about her unsafe car that she had no
> problem pawning off to someone else.


So basically if the person who bought her Lexus gets killed by an accelerator issue, is she partially culpable?

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eesh Wrote:
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> If her Lexus was as dangerous as she made it out
> to be, then she shouldn't have sold it to someone
> else.

"shouldn't" and "no right" are very different things.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Actually you're wrong Gravis. If she knowingly sells the car to another person without telling them about the life threatening issue. Then if that person gets injured by that automobile she can be held liable due to negligence. If I'm not mistaken, negligence Lawsuits pay out @ 3-4 times damages. This is a monetary punishment for those who want to turn an ignorant and blind eye to problems they have prior knowledge of due to laziness or just simple lack of care or sympathy.

So no Gravy, you sir, are wrong. She does NOT have the "right" to sell her car to another unsuspecting buyer/ driver.

STOP MAKING UNINFORMED MOOT POINTS!

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> So basically if the person who bought her Lexus
> gets killed by an accelerator issue, is she
> partially culpable?


I don't know how that would play out in court, but I just think it is funny how she can cry in Congress over her Lexus that wouldn't brake, wouldn't turn off, wouldn't change gears when it was accelerating, yet have no problem selling it to another person that supposedly could die like she almost did.

Hey Gravy Wrote:
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> Actually you're wrong Gravis. If she knowingly
> sells the car to another person without telling
> them about the life threatening issue. Then if
> that person gets injured by that automobile she
> can be held liable due to negligence.

you are assuming she didnt tell the next person about the incident.

STOP MAKING UNINFORMED MOOT POINTS!


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

I am assuming that, because who in thier right mind would sell a car that almost killed them supposedly? And what are the odds someone was mad aware of such a problem, but yet bought the car anyway.

Come on, you know just as well as I do that contemptuous lying old hag didn't tell anyone shit just like we know she is a bad actress and a bad liar.

Well, well, well. Tests on Prius couldn't not duplicate or confirm mans story

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/03/14/california.runaway.prius/index.html?hpt=T2



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I won a Toyota in a radio station contest once. Unfortunately, it turned out to be a toy Yoda....not a car. Here I am in the local newspaper after the scandal broke:
Attachments:

eesh Wrote:
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> Like this woman! Despite her almost being killed
> by her demon possessed Lexus, she sold it to
> another person who has not has a single problem
> with it, and Toyota has since taken possession of
> it and can't replicate the problem.
>
>


LOL "Demon Possessed Lexus".

People are overplaying this BS all the way.

As a matter of fact, some kid who used to be a student of one of my family members in Middle School, just died in a vehicle wreck over on the GW Pkwy. The other kid is currently in the hospital (Last I heard he was taking a turn for the worst), and the dead driver's parents now want to sue Toyota, since their son was driving their Toyota van. They want to blame it all on the recall.

BTW, isn't it awfully convenient that there was a huge GM recall too, yet it was swept under the rug by the MSM after about 48 hours? Where are the government hearings on that? Oh, wait, I guess they don't want to investigate themselves. This is starting to sound like the Soviet fucking Union, with their government run car industry, and subsequent shitty vehicles. They killed the monster GTO (As well as ALL of Pontiac, which was one of my favorite American car companies), and watch, now they'll come out with all eco-friendly rides. Basically, if you want to buy GM, you'll have to drive golf cars all around town.

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RE: eesh,lizzie,Mr.Misery and the rest of you



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> Put the squeeze on his wife, I bet the bitch will
> break with a story that the driver planned a
> lawsuit or a short sell scheme like the
> Tylenol/Cyanide guy in the 80's.

LOL. Wife not even in the story and gets called a bitch. LOL

Notes on this were popping up in blogs a couple of days after the incident, I'm glad it is hitting the mainstream press.

eesh Wrote:
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> Like this woman! Despite her almost being killed
> by her demon possessed Lexus, she sold it to
> another person who has not has a single problem
> with it, and Toyota has since taken possession of
> it and can't replicate the problem.
>
>


Can someone please tell me WHAT THE FUCK A PASSING GEAR IS?

Passing gear would be the gear or two below what the car cruises at. Basically you drop your car into passing gear when you step onthe car to accelerate when cruising at highway speeds. So it is not a special gear, rather a term for describing a car under heavy acceleration at highway speeds.

But what the hell does this have anything to do with this or the quote you quoted.

eurodriver Wrote:
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> Can someone please tell me WHAT THE FUCK A PASSING
> GEAR IS?


it's called overdrive

This whole thing is bullshit to begin with, even if people really are accelerating uncontrollably. I'm sure at least some of the claims being made are bullshit.

Put the car in neutral. Apply brakes. Pull to the curb.

OR

If it is a car with a key ignition, just turn the key one spot to shut off the engine, but not all the way to avoid locking your steering wheel. Apply brakes. Pull to the curb.

OR

If it is a Prius or other keyless ignition car. Put the car in neutral. Apply brakes. Pull to the curb. Don't shut off the car because your wheel will lock and you'll lose power brakes and steering. When you're on a straight stretch, turn off the car.

Fucking seriously. This isn't a complicated situation. Anyone who calls the police because they're out of control should have their license revoked for being an idiot.



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Over drive is actually the last gear on an automatic trans that allows for better fuel economy.

Shut up Pat G. because Kermit D. was CORRECT.

Reference:
Automotive Dictionary - "PA"
Passing gear: An Automatic transmission gear that shifts a vehicle into a lower gear for a short burst of extra power to pass other …

Toyota accelerations revisited—hanging by a (tin) whisker
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Electrical Failure of an Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor Caused by a Tin Whisker and Discussion of Investigative Techniques Used for Whisker Detection
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