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Obamacare still going strong and rates are dropping another 1.5%!
Posted by: ACA user ()
Date: February 09, 2019 02:43PM

Trump might not mind if people starting calling Obamacare Trumpcare, because the controversial health program signed into law in 2010 is finally stabilizing.




https://finance.yahoo.com/news/obamacare-finally-working-republicans-still-want-kill-125728257.html

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Re: Obamacare still going strong and rates are dropping another 1.5%!
Posted by: benni ()
Date: February 10, 2019 06:37AM

Obamacare has been very good to me. I had 70,000 dollars worth of surgery last fall and I only paid 5000 out of pocket.

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Re: Obamacare still going strong and rates are dropping another 1.5%!
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: February 10, 2019 07:23AM

This is because the insurance scam is scared shitless of Democrats and their rhetoric now. Trump has done everything in his power to cause a raise in premiums.

Obama Care is fine. Time for a public option that supplements whatever private insurance ass fucking rightards want to buy.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2019 07:24AM by Gerrymanderer2.

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Re: Obamacare still going strong and rates are dropping another 1.5%!
Posted by: Hoode ()
Date: February 10, 2019 07:27AM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> This is because the insurance scam is scared
> shitless of Democrats and their rhetoric now.
> Trump has done everything in his power to cause a
> raise in premiums.
>
> Obama Care is fine. Time for a public option that
> supplements whatever private insurance ass fucking
> rightards want to buy.


Makes no sense. Why do poor people need healthcare when they already have it for free?

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Re: Obamacare still going strong and rates are dropping another 1.5%!
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: February 10, 2019 07:28AM

I'm talking about the middle class. I'm talking about the fleecing of the American people.

Including dumb asses that vote Republican the more Republicans fuck them.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2019 07:28AM by Gerrymanderer2.

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Re: Obath macare still going strong and rates are dropping another 1.5%!
Posted by: You Big Dummy ()
Date: February 10, 2019 08:19AM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> I'm talking about the middle class. I'm talking
> about the fleecing of the American people.
>
> Including dumb asses that vote Republican the more
> Republicans fuck them.


America was "fleeced" when the ACA was implemented against our will by a bunch of ill bottom-feeding Democrats. If the ACA is so good, why doesn't congress use it as their medical plan?

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Re: Obamacare still going strong and rates are dropping another 1.5%!
Posted by: Total Costs ()
Date: February 10, 2019 08:40AM

What are the deductibles this year?

What are the out-of-pocket caps this year?

Rates are only a small part of the costs involved.

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Re: Obamacare still going strong and rates are dropping another 1.5%!
Posted by: Vky97 ()
Date: February 10, 2019 09:31AM

More political bullshit of Ds and Rs. Debate the issues, use your brains, think for yourselves.

Here is the link the article touts as evidence of price drops:
https://www.cms.gov/sites/drupal/files/2018-10/10-11-18%20Average%20Monthly%20Premiums%20for%20SLCSP%20and%20LCP%202016-2019_0.pdf

Does that look like price stabilization? It does not to me.

Some rates are decreasing because states are backstopping the insurance companies
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/29/scott-walker-gets-ok-200-million-plan-lower-obamacare-costs/859014002/

Monopolies are a cost driver.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-obamacare-effect-hospital-monopolies-1429480447
http://thefederalist.com/2018/09/28/hospital-monopolies-whats-wrong-american-health-care/
https://khn.org/news/government-protected-monopolies-drive-drug-prices-higher-study-says/or

Single payer will exacerbate, not solve, this problem. It will result in lower quality, fewer choices, less innovation. Politicians will keep their grubby hands in the pie, demanding stupid costly stuff like everyone needs this new inoculation somebody's cousin invented, while saying many life-saving scans for brain injuries are unnecessary.

Oh, wait, that already happened.

I think government should fund free clinics for the poor and have government subsidized private insurance cover only major, non-routine care.

The government should not completely take over 20% of the economy for crying out loud.

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Re: Obamacare still going strong and rates are dropping another 1.5%!
Posted by: XXfruppieXX ()
Date: February 10, 2019 09:52AM

Vky97 Wrote:
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> More political bullshit of Ds and Rs. Debate the
> issues, use your brains, think for yourselves.
>
> Here is the link the article touts as evidence of
> price drops:
> https://www.cms.gov/sites/drupal/files/2018-10/10-
> 11-18%20Average%20Monthly%20Premiums%20for%20SLCSP
> %20and%20LCP%202016-2019_0.pdf
>
> Does that look like price stabilization? It does
> not to me.
>
> Some rates are decreasing because states are
> backstopping the insurance companies
> https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/
> 07/29/scott-walker-gets-ok-200-million-plan-lower-
> obamacare-costs/859014002/
>
> Monopolies are a cost driver.
> https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-obamacare-effect-
> hospital-monopolies-1429480447
> http://thefederalist.com/2018/09/28/hospital-monop
> olies-whats-wrong-american-health-care/
> https://khn.org/news/government-protected-monopoli
> es-drive-drug-prices-higher-study-says/or
>
> Single payer will exacerbate, not solve, this
> problem. It will result in lower quality, fewer
> choices, less innovation. Politicians will keep
> their grubby hands in the pie, demanding stupid
> costly stuff like everyone needs this new
> inoculation somebody's cousin invented, while
> saying many life-saving scans for brain injuries
> are unnecessary.
>
> Oh, wait, that already happened.
>
> I think government should fund free clinics for
> the poor and have government subsidized private
> insurance cover only major, non-routine care.
>
> The government should not completely take over 20%
> of the economy for crying out loud.


That's stupid.

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Re: Obamacare still going strong and rates are dropping another 1.5%!
Posted by: n6d7k ()
Date: February 10, 2019 11:37AM


gerrymanderer2 (OP) posts several lies on ffu daily - many\.10think he's a fx co gov worker who is getting paid to do it for false DNC democrat "advertising". he floods ffu with useless posts to bump down major news, posts fecal matter, mutilated bodies, child porn, foreign drug ads and sneaker ads, tells people to kill themselves and government should seize them and put them on psych pills in prison - decided by democrat gov of course, promotes kangaroo courthouse trials, gives anti-religious rants, gives satanic ritual rants, posts black males with large dicks on white young females, portends white low birth rate and fall of USA, and anything possible to DEMORALIZE white people on ffu. (perhaps a chinese prisoner or isis member - but definitely knowledgeable of fx co gov from the inside at times). the website operator has told him "not to post or return" which are still posted - not removed, by the sysop: not because of a political leaning but for continual illegal and gross spam along with messages that are only to demoralize if not kill others.

OBAMACARE was the 21st Healthcare bill that provides Congress with free healthcare insurance and regulates heath insurance and welfare / emergency care (which btw George Bush started*, not Obama).

it had ZERO to do with obama, and obama didn't put a dime into paying for it from his camp



* under Bush, hospitals could not turn away emergency care of personals with gross injuries or near death for lack of being able to pay. Bush should have been awarded a peace award for it. obama was awarded a peace award - but no one knows why yet except that corrupt democrats are in control of the peace award bond payouts. no excuse for obama winning has ever been given or proved.

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What ???
Posted by: EMTALA has existed since 1986 ()
Date: February 10, 2019 01:21PM


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Re: What ???
Posted by: wowbama. ()
Date: February 10, 2019 02:44PM

Obama was like a gift from God to the middle class.

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Re: Obamacare still going strong and rates are dropping another 1.5%!
Posted by: Big Waste of My Money ()
Date: February 10, 2019 03:04PM

benni Wrote:
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> Obamacare has been very good to me. I had 70,000
> dollars worth of surgery last fall and I only paid
> 5000 out of pocket.

If you need $70,000 worth of surgery, you aren’t long on this earth above ground.

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Re: Obamacare still going strong and rates are dropping another 1.5%!
Posted by: GerryTarderer2 ()
Date: February 10, 2019 03:16PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> I'm talking about the middle class. I'm talking
> about the fleecing of the American people.
>
> Including dumb asses that vote Republican the more
> Republicans fuck them.


Why do you keep advertising your stupidity?

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Re: Obamacare still going strong and rates are dropping another 1.5%!
Posted by: not really. ()
Date: February 10, 2019 03:31PM

Big Waste of My Money Wrote:
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> benni Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obamacare has been very good to me. I had
> 70,000
> > dollars worth of surgery last fall and I only
> paid
> > 5000 out of pocket.
>
> If you need $70,000 worth of surgery, you aren’t
> long on this earth above ground.


70k in medical expense is pretty cheap. The surgery must have been fairly minor. The average hospital stay in the US is $3,949 a day.

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