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The Truth About Obamacare
Posted by: Fact finder ()
Date: December 17, 2018 02:44PM

Is Obamacare working for the poor and middle class of this country? Here are the stats from 2017 (the last year of complete stats that are available):

Average Premiums were up 21% from 2016 and 56% from 2014 (the first full year)
Average Deductibles account for 14% of the average plans monthly total household income
Average Out of Pocket expenses is up 6 - 15% from 2016
The cost of deductibles and out of pocket expenses as well as the premiums is over 20% of the average family plan holders household income

Is that bending the cost curve downward?
Is that providing better coverage for less?

Now granted, the VAST majority of Obamacare subscribers qualify for subsidies, which is really just expanded Medicaid and another wealth transfer from the upper middle class and wealthy to the working poor and lower middle class.

When one starts looking into the fraud (illegals who sign up, subsidies going to ineligible subscribers, etc), the estimated costs is over $2 billion a year.

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Re: The Truth About Obamacare
Posted by: obamacaresucs ()
Date: December 17, 2018 10:41PM

Shhhh, you can keep your doctor and the average American will save $2,500 dollars per year, Ha, Ha, Ha!!!
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Re: The Truth About Obamacare
Posted by: Vats 69 ()
Date: December 17, 2018 10:46PM

Universal, single payer healthcare is coming to America sooner rather than later. Might as well embrace it now.

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Re: The Truth About Obamacare
Posted by: thatisgood ()
Date: December 17, 2018 10:52PM

That would be Great! Spread the pain equally across the board so that EVERYBODY can suffer. Right now people on the individual market and small business take it up the ass. Lets make Obama voters and white guilters feel the burn for a change.

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Re: The Truth About Obamacare
Posted by: More Truth ()
Date: December 18, 2018 12:10AM

Fact finder Wrote:
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> Is Obamacare working for the poor and middle class
> of this country? Here are the stats from 2017
> (the last year of complete stats that are
> available):
>
> Average Premiums were up 21% from 2016 and 56%
> from 2014 (the first full year)
> Average Deductibles account for 14% of the average
> plans monthly total household income
> Average Out of Pocket expenses is up 6 - 15% from
> 2016
> The cost of deductibles and out of pocket expenses
> as well as the premiums is over 20% of the average
> family plan holders household income
>
> Is that bending the cost curve downward?
> Is that providing better coverage for less?
>
> Now granted, the VAST majority of Obamacare
> subscribers qualify for subsidies, which is really
> just expanded Medicaid and another wealth transfer
> from the upper middle class and wealthy to the
> working poor and lower middle class.
>
> When one starts looking into the fraud (illegals
> who sign up, subsidies going to ineligible
> subscribers, etc), the estimated costs is over $2
> billion a year.

Statistics with no cites, credible or otherwise...check!
Fake concern about the poor and middle class...check!
Another fake cite re subsidies...check!
Abrupt turnaround to disparage the poor and middle class...check!
Claims of massive fraud with no basis in fact...check!
Vague, unsupported claim of 'estimated (huge) costs' (whatever that means)...check!

And you expect us to take you seriously?

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