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I Am A Conservative
Posted by: Pancks(1) ()
Date: January 23, 2010 12:27PM

I am a conservative: I revere tradition, community and those things sanctified by Time. I favor a small, un-intrusive and Constitutionally-defined federal government, partially because a massive federal government is inherently wasteful, but first and foremost because centralizing so much power far from the people and in the hands of a few is a danger to our Liberty and way of life. I agree with Lord Acton that power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely – that as governments acquire more and more power and wield it with less and less accountability they invariably wield it arbitrarily, in a radical fashion destructive to institutions and traditions hallowed by antiquity. I value my people and community, and therefore am a proponent of localism and subsidiarity. I recognize that the Constitution granted the lion’s share of power to the States so that it would be more accessible to the People – what is called “States Rights”. I love Liberty, and recognize - as the Founders did - that the greatest threat to one’s own Liberty comes from one’s own government. Because of this, I revere the Constitution, the 2nd and 10th Amendments especially, as they serve (or should, at least) as a check on tyranny – on arbitrary power - and so I demand accountability when the Constitution is violated – regardless of the political party of the violator. I believe fervently in the Rule of Law and an open, Constitutional Republic. I value the soldiers who stand ready to defend America, and because I value them dearly I recognizes they should be sent to war only in defense or in the face of an imminent attack. I love my people and culture, and so oppose open borders and mass immigration, as a massive and unending influx of foreign peoples of alien culture does violence to the maintenance, cultivation and enrichment of our native culture. I believe in self-reliance and responsibility - both for myself and my gov’t, and therefore I demand that balanced budgets and fiscal responsibility be the norm rather than the exception. I oppose federal social programs because they are unconstitutional, and because they do damage to the moral fiber of the people.

As a conservative, I favor small government, because I believe Big Government does violence to the traditional American way of life I would like to *conserve*. Since war is the health of the state, since it expands the size and power of the central government, I oppose the Iraq War. As a conservative, I cherish the ideals of the Founders, and believe they are at the core of what "conservatives" should want to "conserve". Included amongst those ideals is the idea that America should have peace and commerce with all nations, entangling alliances with none, and that we should not go abroad searching for monsters to destroy. It is the Washingtonian ideal of benign neutrality. As a conservative I cherish that ideal and so I oppose the Iraq War, which contradicts it. As a conservative, I am resistant to radical change, so I oppose radically altering our criteria for what constitutes a just war, and believe there is no reason to abandon Christian Just War theory, hallowed as it is by long usage, by the great minds of the ages who formulated it, and grounded as it is in good sense and longstanding tradition. To abandon it is a radical act that I find repugnant as a conservative, and as I do not believe the cassus belli for the Iraq War is consistent with Just War theory, I reject it. As a conservative, I cherish the Rule of Law and the Constitution of the United States as the most effective conservative legislation in the history of man. I recognize, as Judge Andrew Napolitano wrote, that the "framers of the Constitution feared letting the president alone decide with whom we are at war," and so granted the power to declare war to Congress, who represent the states and the people. I believe Congress has shirked its constitutional responsibility, and that waging the Iraq War without a constitutional declaration of war renders the war unlawful, and so I reject it. As a conservative, I believe America should conserve her traditional republican system of government. I believe the Iraq War is imperialistic, that the conquest of overseas dominions and the maintenance of puppet governments on the other side of the world is imperialistic and inconsistent with republican ideals, and so I reject the Iraq War. And, lastly, as a conservative I try to reject ideology, I believe one must be principled AND practical, and must deal with the world as it is, not as ideology dictates that it should be. As such, and recognizing as I do that the primary cause of terrorism against the United States is our bombing, invading, occupying and killing Muslims, and our long-term meddling in their affairs, I oppose the Iraq War as counter-productive, wrongheaded and stupid.

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: asdfghjkl ()
Date: January 23, 2010 12:45PM

penis

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: January 23, 2010 01:06PM

Pancks(1) Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I am a conservative: I revere tradition, community
> and those things sanctified by Time. I favor a
> small, un-intrusive and Constitutionally-defined
> federal government, partially because a massive
> federal government is inherently wasteful, but
> first and foremost because centralizing so much
> power far from the people and in the hands of a
> few is a danger to our Liberty and way of life. I
> agree with Lord Acton that power tends to corrupt,
> and absolute power corrupts absolutely – that as
> governments acquire more and more power and wield
> it with less and less accountability they
> invariably wield it arbitrarily, in a radical
> fashion destructive to institutions and traditions
> hallowed by antiquity. I value my people and
> community, and therefore am a proponent of
> localism and subsidiarity. I recognize that the
> Constitution granted the lion’s share of power to
> the States so that it would be more accessible to
> the People – what is called “States Rights”. I
> love Liberty, and recognize - as the Founders did
> - that the greatest threat to one’s own Liberty
> comes from one’s own government. Because of this,
> I revere the Constitution, the 2nd and 10th
> Amendments especially, as they serve (or should,
> at least) as a check on tyranny – on arbitrary
> power - and so I demand accountability when the
> Constitution is violated – regardless of the
> political party of the violator. I believe
> fervently in the Rule of Law and an open,
> Constitutional Republic. I value the soldiers who
> stand ready to defend America, and because I value
> them dearly I recognizes they should be sent to
> war only in defense or in the face of an imminent
> attack. I love my people and culture, and so
> oppose open borders and mass immigration, as a
> massive and unending influx of foreign peoples of
> alien culture does violence to the maintenance,
> cultivation and enrichment of our native culture.
> I believe in self-reliance and responsibility -
> both for myself and my gov’t, and therefore I
> demand that balanced budgets and fiscal
> responsibility be the norm rather than the
> exception. I oppose federal social programs
> because they are unconstitutional, and because
> they do damage to the moral fiber of the people.
>
> As a conservative, I favor small government,
> because I believe Big Government does violence to
> the traditional American way of life I would like
> to *conserve*. Since war is the health of the
> state, since it expands the size and power of the
> central government, I oppose the Iraq War. As a
> conservative, I cherish the ideals of the
> Founders, and believe they are at the core of what
> "conservatives" should want to "conserve".
> Included amongst those ideals is the idea that
> America should have peace and commerce with all
> nations, entangling alliances with none, and that
> we should not go abroad searching for monsters to
> destroy. It is the Washingtonian ideal of benign
> neutrality. As a conservative I cherish that ideal
> and so I oppose the Iraq War, which contradicts
> it. As a conservative, I am resistant to radical
> change, so I oppose radically altering our
> criteria for what constitutes a just war, and
> believe there is no reason to abandon Christian
> Just War theory, hallowed as it is by long usage,
> by the great minds of the ages who formulated it,
> and grounded as it is in good sense and
> longstanding tradition. To abandon it is a radical
> act that I find repugnant as a conservative, and
> as I do not believe the cassus belli for the Iraq
> War is consistent with Just War theory, I reject
> it. As a conservative, I cherish the Rule of Law
> and the Constitution of the United States as the
> most effective conservative legislation in the
> history of man. I recognize, as Judge Andrew
> Napolitano wrote, that the "framers of the
> Constitution feared letting the president alone
> decide with whom we are at war," and so granted
> the power to declare war to Congress, who
> represent the states and the people. I believe
> Congress has shirked its constitutional
> responsibility, and that waging the Iraq War
> without a constitutional declaration of war
> renders the war unlawful, and so I reject it. As a
> conservative, I believe America should conserve
> her traditional republican system of government. I
> believe the Iraq War is imperialistic, that the
> conquest of overseas dominions and the maintenance
> of puppet governments on the other side of the
> world is imperialistic and inconsistent with
> republican ideals, and so I reject the Iraq War.
> And, lastly, as a conservative I try to reject
> ideology, I believe one must be principled AND
> practical, and must deal with the world as it is,
> not as ideology dictates that it should be. As
> such, and recognizing as I do that the primary
> cause of terrorism against the United States is
> our bombing, invading, occupying and killing
> Muslims, and our long-term meddling in their
> affairs, I oppose the Iraq War as
> counter-productive, wrongheaded and stupid.



Invisible bike!

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: Sponge ()
Date: January 23, 2010 01:35PM

Republicans are excellent at using cut & paste.

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: yes ()
Date: January 23, 2010 01:50PM

Lots of bullshit

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 23, 2010 02:04PM

Nice cut and paste job. http://spectator.org/archives/2010/01/21/the-lost-liberals


So you say: Since war is the health of the state, since it expands the size and power of the central government, I oppose the Iraq War

Then later: so I oppose radically altering our criteria for what constitutes a just war, and believe there is no reason to abandon Christian Just War theory



You're retarded

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: he may be retarded, but... ()
Date: January 23, 2010 02:22PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Nice cut and paste job.
> http://spectator.org/archives/2010/01/21/the-lost-
> liberals
>
>
> So you say: Since war is the health of the state,
> since it expands the size and power of the central
> government, I oppose the Iraq War
>
> Then later: so I oppose radically altering our
> criteria for what constitutes a just war, and
> believe there is no reason to abandon Christian
> Just War theory
>
>
>
> You're retarded


You're a homosexual


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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 23, 2010 02:25PM

JEALOUSY



1192-743568.jpgBlessed are the murderous.

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: get bent ()
Date: January 23, 2010 02:38PM

eesh Wrote:
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> JEALOUSY
>
>
>
>


of a ginger kid? get real

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: January 23, 2010 03:35PM

Now that the corporate world is able to but elections forget your credo...our votes will bought and sold as a commodity.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: Voter___ ()
Date: January 23, 2010 04:49PM

Too bad you don't favor small paragraphs...

Pancks(1) Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I am a conservative: I revere tradition, community
> and those things sanctified by Time. I favor a
> small, un-intrusive and Constitutionally-defined
> federal government, partially because a massive
> federal government is inherently wasteful, but
> first and foremost because centralizing so much
> power far from the people and in the hands of a
> few is a danger to our Liberty and way of life. I
> agree with Lord Acton that power tends to corrupt,
> and absolute power corrupts absolutely – that as
> governments acquire more and more power and wield
> it with less and less accountability they
> invariably wield it arbitrarily, in a radical
> fashion destructive to institutions and traditions
> hallowed by antiquity. I value my people and
> community, and therefore am a proponent of
> localism and subsidiarity. I recognize that the
> Constitution granted the lion’s share of power to
> the States so that it would be more accessible to
> the People – what is called “States Rights”. I
> love Liberty, and recognize - as the Founders did
> - that the greatest threat to one’s own Liberty
> comes from one’s own government. Because of this,
> I revere the Constitution, the 2nd and 10th
> Amendments especially, as they serve (or should,
> at least) as a check on tyranny – on arbitrary
> power - and so I demand accountability when the
> Constitution is violated – regardless of the
> political party of the violator. I believe
> fervently in the Rule of Law and an open,
> Constitutional Republic. I value the soldiers who
> stand ready to defend America, and because I value
> them dearly I recognizes they should be sent to
> war only in defense or in the face of an imminent
> attack. I love my people and culture, and so
> oppose open borders and mass immigration, as a
> massive and unending influx of foreign peoples of
> alien culture does violence to the maintenance,
> cultivation and enrichment of our native culture.
> I believe in self-reliance and responsibility -
> both for myself and my gov’t, and therefore I
> demand that balanced budgets and fiscal
> responsibility be the norm rather than the
> exception. I oppose federal social programs
> because they are unconstitutional, and because
> they do damage to the moral fiber of the people.
>
> As a conservative, I favor small government,
> because I believe Big Government does violence to
> the traditional American way of life I would like
> to *conserve*. Since war is the health of the
> state, since it expands the size and power of the
> central government, I oppose the Iraq War. As a
> conservative, I cherish the ideals of the
> Founders, and believe they are at the core of what
> "conservatives" should want to "conserve".
> Included amongst those ideals is the idea that
> America should have peace and commerce with all
> nations, entangling alliances with none, and that
> we should not go abroad searching for monsters to
> destroy. It is the Washingtonian ideal of benign
> neutrality. As a conservative I cherish that ideal
> and so I oppose the Iraq War, which contradicts
> it. As a conservative, I am resistant to radical
> change, so I oppose radically altering our
> criteria for what constitutes a just war, and
> believe there is no reason to abandon Christian
> Just War theory, hallowed as it is by long usage,
> by the great minds of the ages who formulated it,
> and grounded as it is in good sense and
> longstanding tradition. To abandon it is a radical
> act that I find repugnant as a conservative, and
> as I do not believe the cassus belli for the Iraq
> War is consistent with Just War theory, I reject
> it. As a conservative, I cherish the Rule of Law
> and the Constitution of the United States as the
> most effective conservative legislation in the
> history of man. I recognize, as Judge Andrew
> Napolitano wrote, that the "framers of the
> Constitution feared letting the president alone
> decide with whom we are at war," and so granted
> the power to declare war to Congress, who
> represent the states and the people. I believe
> Congress has shirked its constitutional
> responsibility, and that waging the Iraq War
> without a constitutional declaration of war
> renders the war unlawful, and so I reject it. As a
> conservative, I believe America should conserve
> her traditional republican system of government. I
> believe the Iraq War is imperialistic, that the
> conquest of overseas dominions and the maintenance
> of puppet governments on the other side of the
> world is imperialistic and inconsistent with
> republican ideals, and so I reject the Iraq War.
> And, lastly, as a conservative I try to reject
> ideology, I believe one must be principled AND
> practical, and must deal with the world as it is,
> not as ideology dictates that it should be. As
> such, and recognizing as I do that the primary
> cause of terrorism against the United States is
> our bombing, invading, occupying and killing
> Muslims, and our long-term meddling in their
> affairs, I oppose the Iraq War as
> counter-productive, wrongheaded and stupid.

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: A Troll ()
Date: January 23, 2010 04:51PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Now that the corporate world is able to but
> elections forget your credo...our votes will
> bought and sold as a commodity.


You're exaggerating. You can still vote for whoever you want, for whatever reasons you want. The only real consequence of what you are obviously kvetching about is that broadcast television will become completely instead of mostly unwatchable around election time.

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: January 23, 2010 04:55PM

Seriously, eesh, how many times will you say you're done posting and never coming back before you actually do?

And I don't mean "stop posting as a certain screen name then coming back as another incarnation in two weeks."

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 23, 2010 05:41PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Seriously, eesh, how many times will you say
> you're done posting and never coming back before
> you actually do?
>
> And I don't mean "stop posting as a certain screen
> name then coming back as another incarnation in
> two weeks."



Well, looks like the brokeback airman is having a bad day....at least you got enough backbone to use your registered name today.

I just went through my 26,931 posts and I can't find where I said "I'm leaving never coming back." Can you? Just because inkahootz is convinced that I'm Expensive Jeans doesn't mean its reality does it?

Lay off the drugs brokeback airman.



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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: January 23, 2010 07:04PM

Oh, nevermind. That was something Prada Denim said to me in a PM.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 23, 2010 08:05PM

Brokeback Airman Wrote:
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> Oh, nevermind. That was something Prada Denim
> said to me in a PM.



Someone sure has a sore pussy today. What's wrong? Nobody to meet up with for drinks? LOL


.

Blessed are the murderous.



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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: January 23, 2010 08:06PM

A Troll Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Now that the corporate world is able to but
> > elections forget your credo...our votes will
> > bought and sold as a commodity.
>
>
> You're exaggerating. You can still vote for
> whoever you want, for whatever reasons you want.
> The only real consequence of what you are
> obviously kvetching about is that broadcast
> television will become completely instead of
> mostly unwatchable around election time.


You are a simpleton...the money corporations will/can be used to literally blackmail politicians on critical votes. It will be made "clear" to politicians...if you dont vote a certain way...millions of dollars will be spent supporting your opponent.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: A Troll ()
Date: January 23, 2010 09:00PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> A Troll Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vince(1) Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Now that the corporate world is able to but
> > > elections forget your credo...our votes will
> > > bought and sold as a commodity.
> >
> >
> > You're exaggerating. You can still vote for
> > whoever you want, for whatever reasons you
> want.
> > The only real consequence of what you are
> > obviously kvetching about is that broadcast
> > television will become completely instead of
> > mostly unwatchable around election time.
>
>
> You are a simpleton...

Actually I'm not, but thanks for the gratuitous thought.

> the money corporations
> will/can be used to literally blackmail
> politicians on critical votes. It will be made
> "clear" to politicians...if you dont vote a
> certain way...millions of dollars will be spent
> supporting your opponent.

Is this unique to 'corporations'?

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: conVince ()
Date: January 23, 2010 09:04PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Now that the corporate world is able to but
> elections forget your credo...our votes will
> bought and sold as a commodity.


I thought those niggling First Amendment issues would bother you. I know you hate the Second Amendment and had a feeling you hated the First as well.

Of course there was never any problem with unions soaking up dues from republicans and using them to bribe demokrats but why even bring up the double standard?

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: lollin' ()
Date: January 23, 2010 10:01PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Oh, nevermind. That was something Prada Denim
> said to me in a PM.
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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: now that's funny! ()
Date: January 23, 2010 10:16PM

eesh Wrote:
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>
>
> I just went through my 26,931 posts


+100,000,000,000,000

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: January 23, 2010 10:23PM

conVince Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Now that the corporate world is able to but
> > elections forget your credo...our votes will
> > bought and sold as a commodity.
>
>
> I thought those niggling First Amendment issues
> would bother you. I know you hate the Second
> Amendment and had a feeling you hated the First as
> well.
>
> Of course there was never any problem with unions
> soaking up dues from republicans and using them to
> bribe demokrats but why even bring up the double
> standard?


Unions were subject to the same rules and will "benefit" from the new rules. At least Unions represent American workers...thats more then I can say for country-less Corporations. Corporations are internationale..and loyal to their stock holders only. Talk aabout a new world order! Big brother isnt the U.S. Government..it's the corporations who are answerable to no one that will deprive us of our freedoms. Slaves of the corporations...you republicans deserve it.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/23/2010 10:28PM by Vince(1).

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: platinum bell bottoms ()
Date: January 24, 2010 12:13AM

eesh Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Seriously, eesh, how many times will you say
> > you're done posting and never coming back
> before
> > you actually do?
> >
> > And I don't mean "stop posting as a certain
> screen
> > name then coming back as another incarnation in
> > two weeks."
>
>
> Well, looks like the brokeback airman is having a
> bad day....at least you got enough backbone to use
> your registered name today.
>
> I just went through my 26,931 posts and I can't
> find where I said "I'm leaving never coming back."
> Can you? Just because inkahootz is convinced that
> I'm Expensive Jeans doesn't mean its reality does
> it?

except for this one! LOL http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read.php?40,11488,296370,page=6#msg-296370

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: ha ()
Date: January 25, 2010 07:28PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Seriously, eesh, how many times will you say
> you're done posting and never coming back before
> you actually do?
>
> And I don't mean "stop posting as a certain screen
> name then coming back as another incarnation in
> two weeks."


ala EJ?

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Re: I Am A Conservative
Posted by: Vince(!) ()
Date: January 30, 2010 06:57PM

And I have squirrels in my pants.

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