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> > > > > > > > Do you realize the Izaak Walton
> > League
> > > > > > > instructors
> > > > > > > > are NRA certified and the
> > organization
> > > > > itself
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > an NRA affiliate?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not to mention the reason that they
> > have
> > > to
> > > > > > shoot
> > > > > > > there is that because of the anti-gun
> > > nuts
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > no longer are any ranges in the
> schools
> > > as
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > used to be.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And he must not be from Fairfax. I
> > don't
> > > > > think
> > > > > > > any of them still shoot anything
> other
> > > than
> > > > > air
> > > > > > > rifles.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. yes I realize NRA certifies
> > instructors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. yes I know air target shooting is
> the
> > > > sport
> > > > > HS
> > > > > > participates in (and is an olympic
> event
> > by
> > > > the
> > > > > > way). I used a .22 - not a lot of
> > stopping
> > > > > power
> > > > > > in that either. Target isnt the same
> as
> > > > > emptying
> > > > > > your AR toy on washing machines at the
> > dump.
> > >
> > > > > Its
> > > > > > about discipline, accuracy and
> > consistency.
> > >
> > > > > > People who never shot target imagine
> > Rambo,
> > > > its
> > > > > > not that at all - its about
> concentration
> > > and
> > > > > > physical control not the bluster or
> crude
> > > > power
> > > > > > someone prone to deride air rifles is
> > > likely
> > > > to
> > > > > > comprehend.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. Its possible to understand firearms,
> > be
> > > > > trained
> > > > > > with firearms and be highly proficient
> > with
> > > > > > firearms and still be an advocate for
> > > > > restrictions
> > > > > > on them. There is nothing 'nutty'
> being
> > an
> > > > > > advocate for regulating firearms either.
>
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 4. There are plenty of ranges; its not
> > > > popular
> > > > > > enough to justify the expense and
> > liability
> > > > in
> > > > > > Fairfax Schools. By the way air target
> > can
> > > > be
> > > > > > quite expensive for the HS student.
> Good
> > > air
> > > > > > target rifles cost upwards of 2k
> dollars
> > > and
> > > > > the
> > > > > > jackets can be half that much.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 5. You sound like the type of person
> that
> > > > owns
> > > > > > guns and thinks that that makes you an
> > > expert
> > > > > or
> > > > > > more to the point means you know more
> > than
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > > else - from all appearances in this
> > > > conversation
> > > > > I
> > > > > > dont believe that is the truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > Owning guns doesn't make anyone an expert
> > on
> > > > > anything but I've done
> > > > > my homework for being an NRA
> > > activist/recruiter
> > > > > for over 35 years.
> > > > > I attend activist seminars hosted by the
> > > CCRKBA
> > > > > and do a lot or reading
> > > > > and research.
> > > > >
> > > > > My dad taught me to shoot when I was
> about
> > 10
> > > > > years old and I subscribed
> > > > > to magazines such as Guns & Ammo. The
> Army
> > > > taught
> > > > > me how to shoot an M-14,
> > > > > M-16 and the M1911. I taught my kids to
> > shoot
> > > > at
> > > > > the Izaak Walton League
> > > > > in Centreville and someday I hope to take
> > my
> > > > > grandchildren there too and
> > > > > carry on the family tradition. Please
> tell
> > me
> > > > > about your background. :)
> > > >
> > > > So what is your point? If you have the
> > > experience
> > > > you say you do you would understand the
> value
> > > of
> > > > target competition with air rifles and not
> > > > disparage same. Moreover, you would
> > understand
> > > > the challenges and expense of maintaining
> > > ranges
> > > > within an already stretched school budget
> > > within
> > > > Fairfax. Finally you would not join in
> > > > criticizing the somewhat banal fact that I
> > shot
> > > > target in high school - its nothing
> special.
> > > >
> > > > BTW I started shooting at age 7 with my
> dad's
> > > .22
> > > > rabbit gun and his 12 gauge. Ill admit I
> > > needed
> > > > my dad behind my shoulder to help me with
> the
> > > > shotgun in the early years. Yes Ive been a
> > > member
> > > > of Isaac Walton in Centerville, yes I
> taught
> > my
> > > > kids to shoot there. So what?
> > > >
> > > > Firearms are tools nothing more. I no more
> > > > fetishize them than I do my drill or
> chainsaw.
> >
> > > Im
> > > > always in the back of the group going to
> the
> > > duck
> > > > blind - anyone can own a firearm but its
> > > > frightening how poorly trained most people
> > are.
> > > I
> > > > believe we should have mandatory training
> and
> > > > continuing education and training for
> firearm
> > > > ownership. I believe we should have strict
> > > > enforcement of sales and ownership and
> > > > restrictions on who can own and operate
> > > firearms.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > 5. You sound like the type of person
> that
> > > > owns
> > > > > > guns and thinks that that makes you an
> > > expert
> > > > > or
> > > > > > more to the point means you know more
> > than
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > > else - from all appearances in this
> > > > conversation
> > > > > I
> > > > > > dont believe that is the truth.
> > > > >
> > >
> > > First of all, I didn't say anything about air
> > > rifles but I can
> > > imagine the reaction from snowflake parents
> > > storming a school board
> > > meeting if such a proposal were made. As far
> as
> > > the requirements you
> > > suggest for firearms ownership, what you're
> > > describing is a police
> > > state. one step at a time.
> > >
> > > The Violence Policy Center (Brach Bunch) has
> > taken
> > > an incremental approach
> > > and they eventually want to ban all firearms
> > for
> > > private citizens and thanks
> > > to their funding by Soros, continue spewing
> > their
> > > lies and hatred. Seems like
> > > you're reading out of their playbook.
> >
> > You=paranoid
> > 'police state' = rubbish
> >
> > If you truly are an NRA certified instructor
> you
> > know better than anyone how unqualified most
> > people are to use firearms. Enforcing
> regulations
> > for training and ownership is not a police
> state
> > anymore than requiring drivers licenses and
> auto
> > registration is. I would hardly describe
> England,
> > Canada, Australia as police states. You are
> being
> > hysterical.
> >
> > Hatred? Thats projection friend. I can believe
> > you disagree with me without hating me. Sadly
> > alcoholic country music listening rube gun
> > fetishists like you are too irrational to
> > understand that - perhaps this is the reason so
> > many of you are hysterically irrational about
> > common tools such as firearms. Guess Soros is
> > planning to take your chain saw and F150 from
> you
> > too huh...
>
> I never claimed to be an NRA certified instructor.
>
> I haven't had any alcohol in 15 years and I don't
> listen to country music.
> I've never owned a truck or a chain saw.
> Owning my guns is not a fetish but a civil right.
> Get used to it.
>
> Your use of the term "common sense proposals" is
> right out of the
> VPC website. They started using it in the early
> 90's right after the
> Supreme Court ruled half the Brady Bill to be
> unconstitutional.
> Is that you Josh? LOL!
In your world 'common sense' has been fully co-oped by anti-gun groups?!?! Jesus you are off the fucking deep end bro.
I mean I get you are not well read but Christ is everything a conspiracy in your mind?
Common Sense[1] is a pamphlet written by Thomas Paine in 1775–76 advocating independence from Great Britain to people in the Thirteen Colonies. Written in clear and persuasive prose, Paine marshaled moral and political arguments to encourage common people in the Colonies to fight for egalitarian government. It was published anonymously on January 10, 1776, at the beginning of the American Revolution, and became an immediate sensation.