A study by Merritt Hawkins and Associates shows that appointment wait times have increased on average by more than a week since the survey was last conducted in 2004

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-06-03-waittimes_N.htm

im waiting for an MRI after i met with an orthopedic they said it would be 7 business days before they could even schedule an appointment. fuck them.

Negative. I went to the doctors yesterday. Waiting time was normal. The doctor was done with a patient, and once he/she was finished it was your turn. Fair as fair can get.

I never have a problem getting in to see my doctor for regular visits the same day (assuming I call in the morning). Specialists visits are usually within 3-4 days if not sooner. I don't have a Cadillac health plan, and it is not an HMO. But I have seen no difference, or longer wait times. Usually my dentist is worse by far.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> I never have a problem getting in to see my doctor
> for regular visits the same day (assuming I call
> in the morning). Specialists visits are usually
> within 3-4 days if not sooner. I don't have a
> Cadillac health plan, and it is not an HMO. But I
> have seen no difference, or longer wait times.
> Usually my dentist is worse by far.



Wait until it's all Nationalized, then we'll be waiting Months on end.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

the wait for a dentist always sucks. if you miss an appointment it could be months before they can see you again.

Heeyyyyyyyyyyy, buddies.........whatcha' guys doin'?........talkin' about doctors n' stuff..............?

You all a ignoring the fact that you cannott ake your experiences from within 100 miles of DC as anything normal. The influence of the money generated by all the levels of Government here distorts reality.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

And... off the tracks again...

Apparently the Reid/Schumer sham has finally seen the light of day as Lieberman and Nelson say no way, no vote.

Lieberman Rules Out Voting for Health Bill
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/14/health/policy/14health.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

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But on Sunday, Mr. Lieberman told the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, to scrap the idea of expanding Medicare and to abandon the idea of a new government insurance plan, known as a public option.

On a separate issue, Mr. Reid tried over the weekend to concoct a compromise on abortion that would induce Senator Ben Nelson, Democrat of Nebraska, to vote for the bill. Mr. Nelson opposes abortion. Any provision that satisfies him risks alienating supporters of abortion rights.

In interviews on the CBS News program “Face the Nation,” Mr. Lieberman and Mr. Nelson said the bill did not have the 60 votes it would need to get through the Senate.

Senate Democratic leaders, including Mr. Reid and Senator Charles E. Schumer of New York, said they had been mindful of Mr. Lieberman’s concerns in the last 10 days, so they were surprised when he assailed major provisions of the bill on television Sunday. He reiterated his objections in a private meeting with Mr. Reid.
...
On television Sunday, Mr. Lieberman said: “We’ve got to stop adding to the bill. We’ve got to start subtracting some controversial things. I think the only way to get this done before Christmas is to bring in some Republicans who are open-minded on this, like Olympia Snowe.”

Senator Snowe, of Maine, has tried to find common ground with Democrats. But she has rejected Mr. Reid’s proposal to let uninsured people ages 55 to 64 purchase coverage under Medicare.

Mr. Lieberman described what it would take to get his vote. “You’ve got to take out the Medicare buy-in,” he said. “You’ve got to forget about the public option. You probably have to take out the Class Act, which was a whole new entitlement program that will, in future years, put us further into deficit.”

The Class Act refers to a federal insurance program for long-term care, known as Community Living Assistance Services and Supports.

While all this drama is amazing - it still gets us no closer to meaningful Health reform that won't break the bank. The other "trick" they are using would expand the amount States would be paying for expanded coverage - in a way meant to hide costs at the Federal level by passing them on to the States.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

Howard Dean SPEAKS!!!

Howard Dean: “Kill The Senate Bill”
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/howard-dean-kill-the-senate-bill/

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Dean said the removal of the Medicare buy-in made the bill not worth supporting, and urged Dem leaders to start over with the process of reconciliation in the interview, which is set to air at 5:50 PM today on Vermont Public Radio, political reporter Bob Kinzel confirms to me.

The gauntlet from Dean — whose voice on health care is well respsected among liberals — will energize those on the left who are mobilizing against the bill, and make it tougher for liberals to embrace the emerging proposal. In an excerpt Kinzel gave me, Dean says:

“This is essentially the collapse of health care reform in the United States Senate. Honestly the best thing to do right now is kill the Senate bill, go back to the House, start the reconciliation process, where you only need 51 votes and it would be a much simpler bill.”

Kinzel added that Dean essentially said that if Democratic leaders cave into Joe Lieberman right now they’ll be left with a bill that’s not worth supporting.

Dean had previously endorsed the Medicare buy-in compromise without a public option, saying that the key question should be whether the bill contains enough “real reform” to be worthy of progressives’ support. Dean has apparently concluded that the “real reform” has been removed at Lieberman’s behest — which won’t make it easier for liberals to swallow the emerging compromise.

Of course UK Health Care doesn't seem to be getting any better...

NHS maternity services in meltdown: A former midwife reveals how understaffed wards are sinking into chaos
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1235921/Midwives-meltdown-A-NHS-worker-reveals-understaffed-maternity-wards-sinking-chaos.html

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Howard Dean SPEAKS!!!
>
> Howard Dean: “Kill The Senate Bill”
> http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/howa
> rd-dean-kill-the-senate-bill/
>
> ...
>
> Dean said the removal of the Medicare buy-in made
> the bill not worth supporting, and urged Dem
> leaders to start over with the process of
> reconciliation in the interview, which is set to
> air at 5:50 PM today on Vermont Public Radio,
> political reporter Bob Kinzel confirms to me.
>
> The gauntlet from Dean — whose voice on health
> care is well respsected among liberals — will
> energize those on the left who are mobilizing
> against the bill, and make it tougher for liberals
> to embrace the emerging proposal. In an excerpt
> Kinzel gave me, Dean says:
>
> “This is essentially the collapse of health
> care reform in the United States Senate. Honestly
> the best thing to do right now is kill the Senate
> bill, go back to the House, start the
> reconciliation process, where you only need 51
> votes and it would be a much simpler bill.”
>
> Kinzel added that Dean essentially said that if
> Democratic leaders cave into Joe Lieberman right
> now they’ll be left with a bill that’s not worth
> supporting.
>
> Dean had previously endorsed the Medicare buy-in
> compromise without a public option, saying that
> the key question should be whether the bill
> contains enough “real reform” to be worthy of
> progressives’ support. Dean has apparently
> concluded that the “real reform” has been removed
> at Lieberman’s behest — which won’t make it easier
> for liberals to swallow the emerging compromise.
>
>
> Of course UK Health Care doesn't seem to be
> getting any better...
>
> NHS maternity services in meltdown: A former
> midwife reveals how understaffed wards are sinking
> into chaos
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1235921/
> Midwives-meltdown-A-NHS-worker-reveals-understaffe
> d-maternity-wards-sinking-chaos.html


This is just another exampple of the strategy which says if it is perfect...it's a failure. Every index of satisfaction and effectiveness shows the US health system way behind every other modern health system. And the fact that none are perfect has absolutely nothing to do with an intelligent discussion of what we should do.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

What we should do is pass smaller, individual portions of the bill, one piece of legislation at a time. It's better to start out with doing too little, than it is to completely screw-up everything by burying it under a massive blob of confusing bureaucracy.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> What we should do is pass smaller, individual
> portions of the bill, one piece of legislation at
> a time. It's better to start out with doing too
> little, than it is to completely screw-up
> everything by burying it under a massive blob of
> confusing bureaucracy.

What confusing bureaucracy? I am also sure republicans would fight every "little change" proposed...oh, excpet the little changes they propose.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.