Working for AAA’s roadside assistance, I tow away and service virtually every car on the road. What I’ve noticed is 7:10 it’s the American cats that have the most problems. Korean cars the fewest. Only cars worse than American cars is the pos Jaguars and Aston Martins.

Cats???

Consumer reports in a 2016 study says otherwise. In fact, in the top 10 cars to stay away from, both Kia and Hyundai are on the list of cars that will not make 200,000 miles before dying a miserable death. Lolz!

http://clark.com/cars/10-cars-to-avoid/

I have a mercedes and volvo both at 220,000 they drive fine, look fine and dont need repair very often. '99 and '04

I would have a hard time buying an 'American' car. Most of our cars are manufactured in Mexico and assembled here. Most Jap cars are made here too.

I had a jaguar once. Worst 80 grand I ever spent. Door handles jammed and had to replace them TWICE at 6oo a pop. Fuckin thing gave me so many problems I ended up parking it in am abandoned field and shooting it up with my ar-15

Ford is outdoing everyone else in sales now a days apparently.

Statham Wrote:
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> What I’ve noticed is 7:10 it’s the American
> cats that have the most problems.

That's bet'ause aww 'dose foweign puddy 'tats don't have me hitting dem with hammers!

Fixer of cars Wrote:
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> Ford is outdoing everyone else in sales now a days
> apparently.


F-150's are Ford's bread and butter. Their truck line accounts for 40% of their sales. Also, they are the leader in SUV sales as well. Their cars suck.

Statham Wrote:
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> Working for AAA’s roadside assistance, I tow
> away and service virtually every car on the road.
> What I’ve noticed is 7:10 it’s the American
> cats that have the most problems. Korean cars the
> fewest. Only cars worse than American cars is the
> pos Jaguars and Aston Martins.


The unions are ultimately to blame.

Assume OP means Detroit built American cars or cars with American brand names. Most Toyotas and Hondas sold in the US are put together in the US. Their parts are still imported however. So if US branded cars suck, it's because the underlying components suck.

GM is notorious for building cars with a 100K lifespan. They figured that was enough mileage to not make the buyers too angry and they'd get repeat business every 5 years as things like electronics began to fail.

6 years ago I had 2 Fords and a Olds in my driveway. Now I have 2 Toyotas and a Honda. Still have a Ford, but it's my old F-250 that I keep to haul stuff. Otherwise, it's only Jap cars for me from now on.

Cutlass sux Wrote:
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> Assume OP means Detroit built American cars or
> cars with American brand names. Most Toyotas and
> Hondas sold in the US are put together in the US.
> Their parts are still imported however. So if US
> branded cars suck, it's because the underlying
> components suck.
>
> GM is notorious for building cars with a 100K
> lifespan. They figured that was enough mileage to
> not make the buyers too angry and they'd get
> repeat business every 5 years as things like
> electronics began to fail.
>
> 6 years ago I had 2 Fords and a Olds in my
> driveway. Now I have 2 Toyotas and a Honda. Still
> have a Ford, but it's my old F-250 that I keep to
> haul stuff. Otherwise, it's only Jap cars for me
> from now on.

Wow! you sure are an ignorant fuck.

IF patrol Wrote:
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> Cutlass sux Wrote:
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> > Assume OP means Detroit built American cars or
> > cars with American brand names. Most Toyotas
> and
> > Hondas sold in the US are put together in the
> US.
> > Their parts are still imported however. So if
> US
> > branded cars suck, it's because the underlying
> > components suck.
> >
> > GM is notorious for building cars with a 100K
> > lifespan. They figured that was enough mileage
> to
> > not make the buyers too angry and they'd get
> > repeat business every 5 years as things like
> > electronics began to fail.
> >
> > 6 years ago I had 2 Fords and a Olds in my
> > driveway. Now I have 2 Toyotas and a Honda.
> Still
> > have a Ford, but it's my old F-250 that I keep
> to
> > haul stuff. Otherwise, it's only Jap cars for
> me
> > from now on.
>
> Wow! you sure are an ignorant fuck.


Duly noted. LOL

I know this guy with a Chevy Cavalier that has almost 200,000 miles on it. He sucks a lot of cock though.
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> GM is notorious for building cars with a 100K
> lifespan. They figured that was enough mileage to
> not make the buyers too angry and they'd get
> repeat business every 5 years as things like
> electronics began to fail.
>
>


You sure about that? I snagged this pic from another thread a GM car hitting 300,000 miles, and still going.
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I laugh every time I see a man driving an import. I know he is secretly thinking about sucking on a penis. Especially a Hyundai Sonata :-)
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Car inspector Wrote:
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> Cutlass sux Wrote:
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> >
> >
> > GM is notorious for building cars with a 100K
> > lifespan. They figured that was enough mileage
> to
> > not make the buyers too angry and they'd get
> > repeat business every 5 years as things like
> > electronics began to fail.
> >
> >
>
>
> You sure about that? I snagged this pic from
> another thread a GM car hitting 300,000 miles, and
> still going.


Probably spent $10K to get to that. The cars don't stop running at 100K miles. They start having systemic failures that require at least $1000 every time you take it in. Some fools keep sinking money into them. Other fools buy another GM and repeat the cycle. Smart folks learn their lesson and buy a Toyota.

That car was made by toyota and you look like a retard with those giant brakes on that 60 hp car.

Slant Eyes Wrote:
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> Car inspector Wrote:
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> > Cutlass sux Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > >
> > > GM is notorious for building cars with a 100K
> > > lifespan. They figured that was enough
> mileage
> > to
> > > not make the buyers too angry and they'd get
> > > repeat business every 5 years as things like
> > > electronics began to fail.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > You sure about that? I snagged this pic from
> > another thread a GM car hitting 300,000 miles,
> and
> > still going.
>
>
> Probably spent $10K to get to that. The cars
> don't stop running at 100K miles. They start
> having systemic failures that require at least
> $1000 every time you take it in. Some fools keep
> sinking money into them. Other fools buy another
> GM and repeat the cycle. Smart folks learn their
> lesson and buy a Toyota.





GM engines go forever. Google it tard.

Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was the only car I had to experience engine failure. All the American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's, and Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles without ever putting a wrench on the engine. Toyotas are overrated and overpriced. Not to mention cost a fortune to repair. Much better off buying American.

I'm a faggot Wrote:
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> That car was made by toyota and you look like a
> retard with those giant brakes on that 60 hp car.




Toyota did not make the American Cavalier. They made a version for sale in Asia only. What an idiot! Ahahahaha

Imports are for homosexuals Wrote:
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> I laugh every time I see a man driving an import.
> I know he is secretly thinking about sucking on a
> penis. Especially a Hyundai Sonata :-)


Your post shows the dearth of knowledge you possess about real world problems people face everyday. American cars, for the most part are unreliable and are an awful investment. Imports are better investments and are much more reliable.

A Lexus LS or GX will run for 500,000 miles without much maintenance like its a joke. 300k is child's play.

Yep, your mad ;-) Wrote:
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> Slant Eyes Wrote:
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> > Car inspector Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > Cutlass sux Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > GM is notorious for building cars with a
> 100K
> > > > lifespan. They figured that was enough
> > mileage
> > > to
> > > > not make the buyers too angry and they'd
> get
> > > > repeat business every 5 years as things
> like
> > > > electronics began to fail.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You sure about that? I snagged this pic from
> > > another thread a GM car hitting 300,000
> miles,
> > and
> > > still going.
> >
> >
> > Probably spent $10K to get to that. The cars
> > don't stop running at 100K miles. They start
> > having systemic failures that require at least
> > $1000 every time you take it in. Some fools
> keep
> > sinking money into them. Other fools buy
> another
> > GM and repeat the cycle. Smart folks learn
> their
> > lesson and buy a Toyota.
>
>
>
>
>
> GM engines go forever. Google it tard.
>
> Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was the only
> car I had to experience engine failure. All the
> American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's, and
> Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles without
> ever putting a wrench on the engine. Toyotas are
> overrated and overpriced. Not to mention cost a
> fortune to repair. Much better off buying
> American.

You mean the block of GM engine cars stays together while everything else falls off or breaks.

American cars suck because the Japanese had all their manufacturing facilities bombed and re-tooled or rebuilt in the late 1940's. Japanese workers also have way high standards for production. American workers just want to "get it done any way possible to get the dollars." Most American assembly workers are union and drunks. Never buy a car that was assembled on a Monday or Friday in America.

Maintenance costs and reliability concerns determine resale value of vehicles. All you have to do is compare vehicle depreciation and you know which is superior. There is also the issue of replacement parts. Parts for American vehicles are actually more expensive than parts for Toyotas in the U.S.

The only reason ford sales are the highest is because of fleet sales. Federal, state and local governments are responsible for nearly half of those sales. If our tax dollars were spent wisely they would be buying Toyotas.

Happy Hour Americans Wrote:
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> Yep, your mad ;-) Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > >
> >
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>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Cutlass sux Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > GM is notorious for building cars with a
> > 100K
> > > > > lifespan. They figured that was enough
> > > mileage
> > > > to
> > > > > not make the buyers too angry and they'd
> > get
> > > > > repeat business every 5 years as things
> > like
> > > > > electronics began to fail.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You sure about that? I snagged this pic
> from
> > > > another thread a GM car hitting 300,000
> > miles,
> > > and
> > > > still going.
> > >
> > >
> > > Probably spent $10K to get to that. The cars
> > > don't stop running at 100K miles. They start
> > > having systemic failures that require at
> least
> > > $1000 every time you take it in. Some fools
> > keep
> > > sinking money into them. Other fools buy
> > another
> > > GM and repeat the cycle. Smart folks learn
> > their
> > > lesson and buy a Toyota.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > GM engines go forever. Google it tard.
> >
> > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was the
> only
> > car I had to experience engine failure. All the
> > American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's, and
> > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles without
> > ever putting a wrench on the engine. Toyotas
> are
> > overrated and overpriced. Not to mention cost a
> > fortune to repair. Much better off buying
> > American.
>
> You mean the block of GM engine cars stays
> together while everything else falls off or
> breaks.
>
> American cars suck because the Japanese had all
> their manufacturing facilities bombed and
> re-tooled or rebuilt in the late 1940's. Japanese
> workers also have way high standards for
> production. American workers just want to "get it
> done any way possible to get the dollars." Most
> American assembly workers are union and drunks.
> Never buy a car that was assembled on a Monday or
> Friday in America.





Lol at this Ravi guy. What cars does Pakistan produce, the goat rickshaw?

Japanese cars suck because they use the cheapest steel and parts that they can gather. No child labor laws means japs can use unskilled children to assemble their POS cars and trucks that rust completely through in the time span of a decade. I can buy a starter for an American car for $60 dollars all day long. A starter for an jap car is always $160 or more. Thanks, but no thanks.

Statham Wrote:
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> Working for AAA’s roadside assistance, I tow
> away and service virtually every car on the road.
> What I’ve noticed is 7:10 it’s the American
> cats that have the most problems. Korean cars the
> fewest. Only cars worse than American cars is the
> pos Jaguars and Aston Martins.


A lot of that has to do with maintenance. People who buy American cars tend to be ignorant fucks who do not properly maintain their vehicles. People who buy Honda, Kia, Toyota, Lexus, Mazda are generally well educated and of higher intelligence.

After the accident that kills 1 or more people, does it really matter what manufacturer built the vehicle. Try having this discussion with what is left of you wife or kid.

American muscle. Fuck you foreign car cunts.
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Yep, your mad ;-) Wrote:
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> Slant Eyes Wrote:
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> > Car inspector Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Cutlass sux Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > GM is notorious for building cars with a
> 100K
> > > > lifespan. They figured that was enough
> > mileage
> > > to
> > > > not make the buyers too angry and they'd
> get
> > > > repeat business every 5 years as things
> like
> > > > electronics began to fail.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You sure about that? I snagged this pic from
> > > another thread a GM car hitting 300,000
> miles,
> > and
> > > still going.
> >
> >
> > Probably spent $10K to get to that. The cars
> > don't stop running at 100K miles. They start
> > having systemic failures that require at least
> > $1000 every time you take it in. Some fools
> keep
> > sinking money into them. Other fools buy
> another
> > GM and repeat the cycle. Smart folks learn
> their
> > lesson and buy a Toyota.
>
>
>
>
>
> GM engines go forever. Google it tard.
>
> Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was the only
> car I had to experience engine failure. All the
> American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's, and
> Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles without
> ever putting a wrench on the engine. Toyotas are
> overrated and overpriced. Not to mention cost a
> fortune to repair. Much better off buying
> American.




Very true. I work as a professional drive-away for Carmax, driving cars cross country is my full time job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of different cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that the dumbest, most clueless car owners are definitely foreign car owners. I talk to Sales people all over and they constantly snicker when they can unload a POS import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their best sellers are domestic cars...

Motor trend Wrote:
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> Yep, your mad ;-) Wrote:
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> > Slant Eyes Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Cutlass sux Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > GM is notorious for building cars with a
> > 100K
> > > > > lifespan. They figured that was enough
> > > mileage
> > > > to
> > > > > not make the buyers too angry and they'd
> > get
> > > > > repeat business every 5 years as things
> > like
> > > > > electronics began to fail.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You sure about that? I snagged this pic
> from
> > > > another thread a GM car hitting 300,000
> > miles,
> > > and
> > > > still going.
> > >
> > >
> > > Probably spent $10K to get to that. The cars
> > > don't stop running at 100K miles. They start
> > > having systemic failures that require at
> least
> > > $1000 every time you take it in. Some fools
> > keep
> > > sinking money into them. Other fools buy
> > another
> > > GM and repeat the cycle. Smart folks learn
> > their
> > > lesson and buy a Toyota.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > GM engines go forever. Google it tard.
> >
> > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was the
> only
> > car I had to experience engine failure. All the
> > American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's, and
> > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles without
> > ever putting a wrench on the engine. Toyotas
> are
> > overrated and overpriced. Not to mention cost a
> > fortune to repair. Much better off buying
> > American.
>
>
>
>
> Very true. I work as a professional drive-away for
> Carmax, driving cars cross country is my full time
> job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of different
> cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that the dumbest,
> most clueless car owners are definitely foreign
> car owners. I talk to Sales people all over and
> they constantly snicker when they can unload a POS
> import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their best sellers
> are domestic cars...

As a “professional” car driver, why would you rely on others for comments on reliability and performance?

Know the Car, Drive the Car Wrote:
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> > > > Car inspector Wrote:
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> > > > > Cutlass sux Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GM is notorious for building cars with
> a
> > > 100K
> > > > > > lifespan. They figured that was enough
> > > > mileage
> > > > > to
> > > > > > not make the buyers too angry and
> they'd
> > > get
> > > > > > repeat business every 5 years as things
> > > like
> > > > > > electronics began to fail.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You sure about that? I snagged this pic
> > from
> > > > > another thread a GM car hitting 300,000
> > > miles,
> > > > and
> > > > > still going.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Probably spent $10K to get to that. The
> cars
> > > > don't stop running at 100K miles. They
> start
> > > > having systemic failures that require at
> > least
> > > > $1000 every time you take it in. Some
> fools
> > > keep
> > > > sinking money into them. Other fools buy
> > > another
> > > > GM and repeat the cycle. Smart folks learn
> > > their
> > > > lesson and buy a Toyota.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > GM engines go forever. Google it tard.
> > >
> > > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was the
> > only
> > > car I had to experience engine failure. All
> the
> > > American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's, and
> > > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles
> without
> > > ever putting a wrench on the engine. Toyotas
> > are
> > > overrated and overpriced. Not to mention cost
> a
> > > fortune to repair. Much better off buying
> > > American.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Very true. I work as a professional drive-away
> for
> > Carmax, driving cars cross country is my full
> time
> > job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of
> different
> > cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that the
> dumbest,
> > most clueless car owners are definitely foreign
> > car owners. I talk to Sales people all over and
> > they constantly snicker when they can unload a
> POS
> > import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their best
> sellers
> > are domestic cars...
>
> As a “professional” car driver, why would you
> rely on others for comments on reliability and
> performance?




I just drive them from point to point. Anyway, everyone seems to agree, imports are overpriced and overrated. Best bang for the buck is American, all the way...

auto industry analyst Wrote:
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> Statham Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Working for AAA’s roadside assistance, I tow
> > away and service virtually every car on the
> road.
> > What I’ve noticed is 7:10 it’s the American
> > cats that have the most problems. Korean cars
> the
> > fewest. Only cars worse than American cars is
> the
> > pos Jaguars and Aston Martins.
>
>
> A lot of that has to do with maintenance. People
> who buy American cars tend to be ignorant fucks
> who do not properly maintain their vehicles.
> People who buy Honda, Kia, Toyota, Lexus, Mazda
> are generally well educated and of higher
> intelligence.

That makes perfect sense.

American cars do suck. Mostly because of shitty union workers making mistakes and greedy CEOs who get bailed out while fucking over Americans like Obama did with GM. GM's always we're shit cars before and now I definitely wouldn't buy one because of that scam.

Toyotas, Honda's, Acuras and Lexus are the best. Nothing better that a Toyota land cruiser. Love it. For little cars the Civic and Corolla can't be beat. High gas mileage and you can will them to your grandkids if you wanted to.

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> >
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>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Slant Eyes Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
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>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Cutlass sux Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > GM is notorious for building cars
> with
> > a
> > > > 100K
> > > > > > > lifespan. They figured that was
> enough
> > > > > mileage
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > not make the buyers too angry and
> > they'd
> > > > get
> > > > > > > repeat business every 5 years as
> things
> > > > like
> > > > > > > electronics began to fail.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You sure about that? I snagged this pic
> > > from
> > > > > > another thread a GM car hitting 300,000
> > > > miles,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > still going.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably spent $10K to get to that. The
> > cars
> > > > > don't stop running at 100K miles. They
> > start
> > > > > having systemic failures that require at
> > > least
> > > > > $1000 every time you take it in. Some
> > fools
> > > > keep
> > > > > sinking money into them. Other fools buy
> > > > another
> > > > > GM and repeat the cycle. Smart folks
> learn
> > > > their
> > > > > lesson and buy a Toyota.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > GM engines go forever. Google it tard.
> > > >
> > > > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was
> the
> > > only
> > > > car I had to experience engine failure. All
> > the
> > > > American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's,
> and
> > > > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles
> > without
> > > > ever putting a wrench on the engine.
> Toyotas
> > > are
> > > > overrated and overpriced. Not to mention
> cost
> > a
> > > > fortune to repair. Much better off buying
> > > > American.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Very true. I work as a professional
> drive-away
> > for
> > > Carmax, driving cars cross country is my full
> > time
> > > job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of
> > different
> > > cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that the
> > dumbest,
> > > most clueless car owners are definitely
> foreign
> > > car owners. I talk to Sales people all over
> and
> > > they constantly snicker when they can unload
> a
> > POS
> > > import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their best
> > sellers
> > > are domestic cars...
> >
> > As a “professional” car driver, why would
> you
> > rely on others for comments on reliability and
> > performance?
>
>
>
>
> I just drive them from point to point. Anyway,
> everyone seems to agree, imports are overpriced
> and overrated. Best bang for the buck is American,
> all the way...


Everyone but Consumer Reports you mean. Top 5 brands are not American and 8 of the 10 best cars are not American. All the way indeed...

Who fucking cares about that shit. Life is fucking short, buy what you want to buy. Try making yourself and your family happy instead of arguing about stupid shit on here.
I have a old Mercury Marquis and love it for the comfort. I have a fairly new Mazda that I enjoy driving on the backroads and I have a Nissan 4x4 truck that I enjoy driving in the woods and in the snow. Some vehicles are better than others, so fucking what?

driver54 Wrote:
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> Who fucking cares about that shit. Life is fucking
> short, buy what you want to buy. Try making
> yourself and your family happy instead of arguing
> about stupid shit on here.
> I have a old Mercury Marquis and love it for the
> comfort. I have a fairly new Mazda that I enjoy
> driving on the backroads and I have a Nissan 4x4
> truck that I enjoy driving in the woods and in the
> snow. Some vehicles are better than others, so
> fucking what?


I have a bike, public transportation and a 10” Cock. What more does a man need? Oh yea, a beautiful woman with a very moist vagina for creature comforts.

Motor trend Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > >

> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You sure about that? I snagged this pic
> from
> > > > another thread a GM car hitting 300,000
> > miles,
> > > and
> > > > still going.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was the
> only
> > car I had to experience engine failure. All the
> > American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's, and
> > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles without
> > ever putting a wrench on the engine. Toyotas
> are
> > overrated and overpriced. Not to mention cost a
> > fortune to repair. Much better off buying
> > American.
>
>
>
>
> Very true. I work as a professional drive-away for
> Carmax, driving cars cross country is my full time
> job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of different
> cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that the dumbest,
> most clueless car owners are definitely foreign
> car owners. I talk to Sales people all over and
> they constantly snicker when they can unload a POS
> import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their best sellers
> are domestic cars...




Very true guys. Dollar for dollar, the best value and cheapest to maintain cars and trucks are domestic. Many uneducated liberals fall into the 'imports are better' because cheap Asian steel makes them lower priced. But in the long run you get hosed from rusted out bodies and overpriced replacement parts.

You need to take that comment back. American cars are excellent.

It's amazing to me that American automakers can't just reverse engineer Japanese cars and produce cars that are as reliable as those cars. Don't tell me American cars are as reliable, they just aren't.

S. Sheinbein Wrote:
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> It's amazing to me that American automakers can't
> just reverse engineer Japanese cars and produce
> cars that are as reliable as those cars. Don't
> tell me American cars are as reliable, they just
> aren't.

American cars are getting better all the time. The Japanese auto makers always seem to be one step ahead. In the 70s and 80s when Honda and a bit later the Toyota sales started to take huge amounts of the market share GM Ford and Chrysler realized that they really needed to step up their game and increase their quality. Had they not done that our big 3 automakers would have gone the way of our electronics manufacturing industries and we would have no American automakers today.

Rice burning caca Wrote:
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> Consumer reports in a 2016 study says otherwise.
> In fact, in the top 10 cars to stay away from,
> both Kia and Hyundai are on the list of cars that
> will not make 200,000 miles before dying a
> miserable death. Lolz!
>
> http://clark.com/cars/10-cars-to-avoid





This does not surprise me. The takata air bag disaster was a complete disgrace for Japan and dozens of people world-wide were killed in the attempted coverup.
So much for Asian quality eh?
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Mike O'Meara show fan Wrote:
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> Rice burning caca Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Consumer reports in a 2016 study says
> otherwise.
> > In fact, in the top 10 cars to stay away from,
> > both Kia and Hyundai are on the list of cars
> that
> > will not make 200,000 miles before dying a
> > miserable death. Lolz!
> >
> > http://clark.com/cars/10-cars-to-avoid
>
>
>
>
>
> This does not surprise me. The takata air bag
> disaster was a complete disgrace for Japan and
> dozens of people world-wide were killed in the
> attempted coverup.
> So much for Asian quality eh?


They were flawed, yes but those same "defective" airbags saved a estimated 16,000 lives. Can't say that for the GM ignition switch cover-up.

automotive design engineer Wrote:
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> Mike O'Meara show fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rice burning caca Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Consumer reports in a 2016 study says
> > otherwise.
> > > In fact, in the top 10 cars to stay away
> from,
> > > both Kia and Hyundai are on the list of cars
> > that
> > > will not make 200,000 miles before dying a
> > > miserable death. Lolz!
> > >
> > > http://clark.com/cars/10-cars-to-avoid
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This does not surprise me. The takata air bag
> > disaster was a complete disgrace for Japan and
> > dozens of people world-wide were killed in the
> > attempted coverup.
> > So much for Asian quality eh?
>
>
> They were flawed, yes but those same "defective"
> airbags saved a estimated 16,000 lives. Can't say
> that for the GM ignition switch cover-up.






The GM ignition switch recall wasn't killing and maiming people by the dozens. Comprende?
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I am honestly looking @ a chevy malibu right now (from say, 2010 onward, likely used) - yay or nay?

automotive design engineer Wrote:
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> Mike O'Meara show fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rice burning caca Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Consumer reports in a 2016 study says
> > otherwise.
> > > In fact, in the top 10 cars to stay away
> from,
> > > both Kia and Hyundai are on the list of cars
> > that
> > > will not make 200,000 miles before dying a
> > > miserable death. Lolz!
> > >
> > > http://clark.com/cars/10-cars-to-avoid
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This does not surprise me. The takata air bag
> > disaster was a complete disgrace for Japan and
> > dozens of people world-wide were killed in the
> > attempted coverup.
> > So much for Asian quality eh?
>
>
> They were flawed, yes but those same "defective"
> airbags saved a estimated 16,000 lives. Can't say
> that for the GM ignition switch cover-up.


How about those American made air bags? Oh thats right There are no American made air bags. Thats because Americans cant build any because they are too stupid.

Nhtsa Wrote:
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> automotive design engineer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mike O'Meara show fan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Rice burning caca Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Consumer reports in a 2016 study says
> > > otherwise.
> > > > In fact, in the top 10 cars to stay away
> > from,
> > > > both Kia and Hyundai are on the list of
> cars
> > > that
> > > > will not make 200,000 miles before dying a
> > > > miserable death. Lolz!
> > > >
> > > > http://clark.com/cars/10-cars-to-avoid
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This does not surprise me. The takata air bag
> > > disaster was a complete disgrace for Japan
> and
> > > dozens of people world-wide were killed in
> the
> > > attempted coverup.
> > > So much for Asian quality eh?
> >
> >
> > They were flawed, yes but those same
> "defective"
> > airbags saved a estimated 16,000 lives. Can't
> say
> > that for the GM ignition switch cover-up.
>
>
> How about those American made air bags? Oh thats
> right There are no American made air bags. Thats
> because Americans cant build any because they are
> too stupid.




Nonsense. Japanese quality is not only imferior, but it's vastly cheaper because of sweat shops and child labor. Those "cheap" airbags certainly didn't pay off for all those victims.
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American auto makers are a national embarrassment. They are the worst of the worst.

Japanese auto makers are an international embarrassment. They are the worst of the worst.

Jap cars are better, period. I wish it wasn’t so, but until we get the unions to fall in line, and worry about product quality over their vacation time, we aren’t going to get American brand cars that are reliable quality craftsmanship.

The reason that Toyota has the most reliable cars in the world is courtesy of an American named W. Edwards Deming. He took what he learned from working at Ford motor company and put Toyota at the top of the industry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming

Repair shop guy Wrote:
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> Motor trend Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
>
> > > -----
> > > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > > >
>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You sure about that? I snagged this pic
> > from
> > > > > another thread a GM car hitting 300,000
> > > miles,
> > > > and
> > > > > still going.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was the
> > only
> > > car I had to experience engine failure. All
> the
> > > American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's, and
> > > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles
> without
> > > ever putting a wrench on the engine. Toyotas
> > are
> > > overrated and overpriced. Not to mention cost
> a
> > > fortune to repair. Much better off buying
> > > American.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Very true. I work as a professional drive-away
> for
> > Carmax, driving cars cross country is my full
> time
> > job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of
> different
> > cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that the
> dumbest,
> > most clueless car owners are definitely foreign
> > car owners. I talk to Sales people all over and
> > they constantly snicker when they can unload a
> POS
> > import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their best
> sellers
> > are domestic cars...
>
>
>
>
> Very true guys. Dollar for dollar, the best value
> and cheapest to maintain cars and trucks are
> domestic. Many uneducated liberals fall into the
> 'imports are better' because cheap Asian steel
> makes them lower priced. But in the long run you
> get hosed from rusted out bodies and overpriced
> replacement parts.





Couldn't agree more. I was shocked at the cost of replacement parts for my import. ($230 just for a starter). Add that with the cost of repair I was no better off than when I owned a domestic car. In fact, I went back to domestic and I'm damn glad I did.

Bret from Fairfax Wrote:
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> Repair shop guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Motor trend Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You sure about that? I snagged this pic
> > > from
> > > > > > another thread a GM car hitting 300,000
> > > > miles,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > still going.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was
> the
> > > only
> > > > car I had to experience engine failure. All
> > the
> > > > American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's,
> and
> > > > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles
> > without
> > > > ever putting a wrench on the engine.
> Toyotas
> > > are
> > > > overrated and overpriced. Not to mention
> cost
> > a
> > > > fortune to repair. Much better off buying
> > > > American.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Very true. I work as a professional
> drive-away
> > for
> > > Carmax, driving cars cross country is my full
> > time
> > > job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of
> > different
> > > cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that the
> > dumbest,
> > > most clueless car owners are definitely
> foreign
> > > car owners. I talk to Sales people all over
> and
> > > they constantly snicker when they can unload
> a
> > POS
> > > import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their best
> > sellers
> > > are domestic cars...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Very true guys. Dollar for dollar, the best
> value
> > and cheapest to maintain cars and trucks are
> > domestic. Many uneducated liberals fall into
> the
> > 'imports are better' because cheap Asian steel
> > makes them lower priced. But in the long run
> you
> > get hosed from rusted out bodies and overpriced
> > replacement parts.
>
>
>
>
>
> Couldn't agree more. I was shocked at the cost of
> replacement parts for my import. ($230 just for a
> starter). Add that with the cost of repair I was
> no better off than when I owned a domestic car. In
> fact, I went back to domestic and I'm damn glad I
> did.


Yeah, I was just looking at the cost of a new starter motor for my Cavalier, it's only $141.00 and a starter for my old Corolla is $166.00. Of course I have replaced the Cavalier starter 3 times but the Corolla is still using the original factory starter even though it is older and has more miles than the Chevy. Go figure.

Cavalier driver Wrote:
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> Bret from Fairfax Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Repair shop guy Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Motor trend Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > >
> > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You sure about that? I snagged this
> pic
> > > > from
> > > > > > > another thread a GM car hitting
> 300,000
> > > > > miles,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > still going.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was
> > the
> > > > only
> > > > > car I had to experience engine failure.
> All
> > > the
> > > > > American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's,
> > and
> > > > > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles
> > > without
> > > > > ever putting a wrench on the engine.
> > Toyotas
> > > > are
> > > > > overrated and overpriced. Not to mention
> > cost
> > > a
> > > > > fortune to repair. Much better off buying
> > > > > American.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very true. I work as a professional
> > drive-away
> > > for
> > > > Carmax, driving cars cross country is my
> full
> > > time
> > > > job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of
> > > different
> > > > cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that the
> > > dumbest,
> > > > most clueless car owners are definitely
> > foreign
> > > > car owners. I talk to Sales people all over
> > and
> > > > they constantly snicker when they can
> unload
> > a
> > > POS
> > > > import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their best
> > > sellers
> > > > are domestic cars...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Very true guys. Dollar for dollar, the best
> > value
> > > and cheapest to maintain cars and trucks are
> > > domestic. Many uneducated liberals fall into
> > the
> > > 'imports are better' because cheap Asian
> steel
> > > makes them lower priced. But in the long run
> > you
> > > get hosed from rusted out bodies and
> overpriced
> > > replacement parts.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Couldn't agree more. I was shocked at the cost
> of
> > replacement parts for my import. ($230 just for
> a
> > starter). Add that with the cost of repair I
> was
> > no better off than when I owned a domestic car.
> In
> > fact, I went back to domestic and I'm damn glad
> I
> > did.
>
>
> Yeah, I was just looking at the cost of a new
> starter motor for my Cavalier, it's only $141.00
> and a starter for my old Corolla is $166.00. Of
> course I have replaced the Cavalier starter 3
> times but the Corolla is still using the original
> factory starter even though it is older and has
> more miles than the Chevy. Go figure.





I've always wondered why import engines don't last. It turns out that the exhaust valves are made very cheaply. That would explain why I had to have them repaired twice, then the engine finally gave up and seized from metal particles in the engine. Hyundai's are crap, just like they were in the 80's and 90's. Go figure.

Cavalier driver Wrote:
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> Bret from Fairfax Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Repair shop guy Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Motor trend Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > >
> > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You sure about that? I snagged this
> pic
> > > > from
> > > > > > > another thread a GM car hitting
> 300,000
> > > > > miles,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > still going.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was
> > the
> > > > only
> > > > > car I had to experience engine failure.
> All
> > > the
> > > > > American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's,
> > and
> > > > > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles
> > > without
> > > > > ever putting a wrench on the engine.
> > Toyotas
> > > > are
> > > > > overrated and overpriced. Not to mention
> > cost
> > > a
> > > > > fortune to repair. Much better off buying
> > > > > American.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very true. I work as a professional
> > drive-away
> > > for
> > > > Carmax, driving cars cross country is my
> full
> > > time
> > > > job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of
> > > different
> > > > cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that the
> > > dumbest,
> > > > most clueless car owners are definitely
> > foreign
> > > > car owners. I talk to Sales people all over
> > and
> > > > they constantly snicker when they can
> unload
> > a
> > > POS
> > > > import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their best
> > > sellers
> > > > are domestic cars...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Very true guys. Dollar for dollar, the best
> > value
> > > and cheapest to maintain cars and trucks are
> > > domestic. Many uneducated liberals fall into
> > the
> > > 'imports are better' because cheap Asian
> steel
> > > makes them lower priced. But in the long run
> > you
> > > get hosed from rusted out bodies and
> overpriced
> > > replacement parts.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Couldn't agree more. I was shocked at the cost
> of
> > replacement parts for my import. ($230 just for
> a
> > starter). Add that with the cost of repair I
> was
> > no better off than when I owned a domestic car.
> In
> > fact, I went back to domestic and I'm damn glad
> I
> > did.
>
>
> Yeah, I was just looking at the cost of a new
> starter motor for my Cavalier, it's only $141.00
> and a starter for my old Corolla is $166.00. Of
> course I have replaced the Cavalier starter 3
> times but the Corolla is still using the original
> factory starter even though it is older and has
> more miles than the Chevy. Go figure.


I owned one of these Cavaliers until the transmission died while I was going down the highway at 60 mph. The transmission had never been good, the car had also had a problem with the starter. When it was new it was in the shop every other week getting another problem fixed. It is cheaply built. While the engine did make it to 78k, it didn't do so reliably. If all of Chevy's new cars are built like this Cavalier was, I won't ever buy Chevy cars again.

Bret from Fairfax Wrote:
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> Repair shop guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Motor trend Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You sure about that? I snagged this pic
> > > from
> > > > > > another thread a GM car hitting 300,000
> > > > miles,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > still going.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was
> the
> > > only
> > > > car I had to experience engine failure. All
> > the
> > > > American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's,
> and
> > > > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles
> > without
> > > > ever putting a wrench on the engine.
> Toyotas
> > > are
> > > > overrated and overpriced. Not to mention
> cost
> > a
> > > > fortune to repair. Much better off buying
> > > > American.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Very true. I work as a professional
> drive-away
> > for
> > > Carmax, driving cars cross country is my full
> > time
> > > job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of
> > different
> > > cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that the
> > dumbest,
> > > most clueless car owners are definitely
> foreign
> > > car owners. I talk to Sales people all over
> and
> > > they constantly snicker when they can unload
> a
> > POS
> > > import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their best
> > sellers
> > > are domestic cars...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Very true guys. Dollar for dollar, the best
> value
> > and cheapest to maintain cars and trucks are
> > domestic. Many uneducated liberals fall into
> the
> > 'imports are better' because cheap Asian steel
> > makes them lower priced. But in the long run
> you
> > get hosed from rusted out bodies and overpriced
> > replacement parts.
>
>
>
>
>
> Couldn't agree more. I was shocked at the cost of
> replacement parts for my import. ($230 just for a
> starter). Add that with the cost of repair I was
> no better off than when I owned a domestic car. In
> fact, I went back to domestic and I'm damn glad I
> did.






I feel your pain. I'm not sure what makes imports worse, the Shitty engines, cheap interiors or the unbelievable rust. I had a toyota tacoma once. OMG what a complete piece of shit. I couldn't believe how cheaply the body was put together. If the rattles and squeaks weren't bad enough, the body started rusting at the seams until you counld literally put your finger through it. Japanese garbage...

Cassie Wrote:
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> Cavalier driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bret from Fairfax Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Repair shop guy Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Motor trend Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You sure about that? I snagged this
> > pic
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > > another thread a GM car hitting
> > 300,000
> > > > > > miles,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > still going.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it
> was
> > > the
> > > > > only
> > > > > > car I had to experience engine failure.
> > All
> > > > the
> > > > > > American cars I've owned (fords,
> Chevy's,
> > > and
> > > > > > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles
> > > > without
> > > > > > ever putting a wrench on the engine.
> > > Toyotas
> > > > > are
> > > > > > overrated and overpriced. Not to
> mention
> > > cost
> > > > a
> > > > > > fortune to repair. Much better off
> buying
> > > > > > American.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Very true. I work as a professional
> > > drive-away
> > > > for
> > > > > Carmax, driving cars cross country is my
> > full
> > > > time
> > > > > job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of
> > > > different
> > > > > cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that the
> > > > dumbest,
> > > > > most clueless car owners are definitely
> > > foreign
> > > > > car owners. I talk to Sales people all
> over
> > > and
> > > > > they constantly snicker when they can
> > unload
> > > a
> > > > POS
> > > > > import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their
> best
> > > > sellers
> > > > > are domestic cars...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very true guys. Dollar for dollar, the best
> > > value
> > > > and cheapest to maintain cars and trucks
> are
> > > > domestic. Many uneducated liberals fall
> into
> > > the
> > > > 'imports are better' because cheap Asian
> > steel
> > > > makes them lower priced. But in the long
> run
> > > you
> > > > get hosed from rusted out bodies and
> > overpriced
> > > > replacement parts.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Couldn't agree more. I was shocked at the
> cost
> > of
> > > replacement parts for my import. ($230 just
> for
> > a
> > > starter). Add that with the cost of repair I
> > was
> > > no better off than when I owned a domestic
> car.
> > In
> > > fact, I went back to domestic and I'm damn
> glad
> > I
> > > did.
> >
> >
> > Yeah, I was just looking at the cost of a new
> > starter motor for my Cavalier, it's only
> $141.00
> > and a starter for my old Corolla is $166.00. Of
> > course I have replaced the Cavalier starter 3
> > times but the Corolla is still using the
> original
> > factory starter even though it is older and has
> > more miles than the Chevy. Go figure.
>
>
> I owned one of these Cavaliers until the
> transmission died while I was going down the
> highway at 60 mph. The transmission had never been
> good, the car had also had a problem with the
> starter. When it was new it was in the shop every
> other week getting another problem fixed. It is
> cheaply built. While the engine did make it to
> 78k, it didn't do so reliably. If all of Chevy's
> new cars are built like this Cavalier was, I won't
> ever buy Chevy cars again.


Good idea, my son had a Cavalier and the ignition switch caught fire on the 301 bridge and locked up the steering wheel. He crashed into a Toyota Camry. My son was killed while the people in the Toyota walked away without a scratch.

Bar maid Wrote:
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> Bret from Fairfax Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Repair shop guy Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Motor trend Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > >
> > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You sure about that? I snagged this
> pic
> > > > from
> > > > > > > another thread a GM car hitting
> 300,000
> > > > > miles,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > still going.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it was
> > the
> > > > only
> > > > > car I had to experience engine failure.
> All
> > > the
> > > > > American cars I've owned (fords, Chevy's,
> > and
> > > > > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles
> > > without
> > > > > ever putting a wrench on the engine.
> > Toyotas
> > > > are
> > > > > overrated and overpriced. Not to mention
> > cost
> > > a
> > > > > fortune to repair. Much better off buying
> > > > > American.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very true. I work as a professional
> > drive-away
> > > for
> > > > Carmax, driving cars cross country is my
> full
> > > time
> > > > job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of
> > > different
> > > > cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that the
> > > dumbest,
> > > > most clueless car owners are definitely
> > foreign
> > > > car owners. I talk to Sales people all over
> > and
> > > > they constantly snicker when they can
> unload
> > a
> > > POS
> > > > import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their best
> > > sellers
> > > > are domestic cars...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Very true guys. Dollar for dollar, the best
> > value
> > > and cheapest to maintain cars and trucks are
> > > domestic. Many uneducated liberals fall into
> > the
> > > 'imports are better' because cheap Asian
> steel
> > > makes them lower priced. But in the long run
> > you
> > > get hosed from rusted out bodies and
> overpriced
> > > replacement parts.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Couldn't agree more. I was shocked at the cost
> of
> > replacement parts for my import. ($230 just for
> a
> > starter). Add that with the cost of repair I
> was
> > no better off than when I owned a domestic car.
> In
> > fact, I went back to domestic and I'm damn glad
> I
> > did.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I feel your pain. I'm not sure what makes imports
> worse, the Shitty engines, cheap interiors or the
> unbelievable rust. I had a toyota tacoma once. OMG
> what a complete piece of shit. I couldn't believe
> how cheaply the body was put together. If the
> rattles and squeaks weren't bad enough, the body
> started rusting at the seams until you counld
> literally put your finger through it. Japanese
> garbage...





The import rust problem is epidimic, apparently. I thought it was just isolated to my toyota tacoma. After some basic research I found most imports have this same issue. Here is a link of people trying to deal with the problem.

Hope it helps! https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=71&t=1604696

Beef jerky Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bar maid Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bret from Fairfax Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Repair shop guy Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Motor trend Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You sure about that? I snagged this
> > pic
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > > another thread a GM car hitting
> > 300,000
> > > > > > miles,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > still going.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it
> was
> > > the
> > > > > only
> > > > > > car I had to experience engine failure.
> > All
> > > > the
> > > > > > American cars I've owned (fords,
> Chevy's,
> > > and
> > > > > > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus miles
> > > > without
> > > > > > ever putting a wrench on the engine.
> > > Toyotas
> > > > > are
> > > > > > overrated and overpriced. Not to
> mention
> > > cost
> > > > a
> > > > > > fortune to repair. Much better off
> buying
> > > > > > American.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Very true. I work as a professional
> > > drive-away
> > > > for
> > > > > Carmax, driving cars cross country is my
> > full
> > > > time
> > > > > job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of
> > > > different
> > > > > cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that the
> > > > dumbest,
> > > > > most clueless car owners are definitely
> > > foreign
> > > > > car owners. I talk to Sales people all
> over
> > > and
> > > > > they constantly snicker when they can
> > unload
> > > a
> > > > POS
> > > > > import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their
> best
> > > > sellers
> > > > > are domestic cars...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very true guys. Dollar for dollar, the best
> > > value
> > > > and cheapest to maintain cars and trucks
> are
> > > > domestic. Many uneducated liberals fall
> into
> > > the
> > > > 'imports are better' because cheap Asian
> > steel
> > > > makes them lower priced. But in the long
> run
> > > you
> > > > get hosed from rusted out bodies and
> > overpriced
> > > > replacement parts.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Couldn't agree more. I was shocked at the
> cost
> > of
> > > replacement parts for my import. ($230 just
> for
> > a
> > > starter). Add that with the cost of repair I
> > was
> > > no better off than when I owned a domestic
> car.
> > In
> > > fact, I went back to domestic and I'm damn
> glad
> > I
> > > did.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I feel your pain. I'm not sure what makes
> imports
> > worse, the Shitty engines, cheap interiors or
> the
> > unbelievable rust. I had a toyota tacoma once.
> OMG
> > what a complete piece of shit. I couldn't
> believe
> > how cheaply the body was put together. If the
> > rattles and squeaks weren't bad enough, the
> body
> > started rusting at the seams until you counld
> > literally put your finger through it. Japanese
> > garbage...
>
>
>
>
>
> The import rust problem is epidimic, apparently. I
> thought it was just isolated to my toyota tacoma.
> After some basic research I found most imports
> have this same issue. Here is a link of people
> trying to deal with the problem.
>
> Hope it helps!
> https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&;
> f=71&t=1604696


Yes Toyota made the mistake of using an American company to build some of their frames. It is costing them plenty right now. Americans fuck everything up. The new frames are made in Mexico or Japan.
Thank God Americans are unable to make air bag canisters!

Buicks are excellent for running over wetbacks and negros

honda pilot pilot Wrote:
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> Beef jerky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bar maid Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Bret from Fairfax Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Repair shop guy Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Motor trend Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You sure about that? I snagged
> this
> > > pic
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > another thread a GM car hitting
> > > 300,000
> > > > > > > miles,
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > still going.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it
> > was
> > > > the
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > > car I had to experience engine
> failure.
> > > All
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > American cars I've owned (fords,
> > Chevy's,
> > > > and
> > > > > > > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus
> miles
> > > > > without
> > > > > > > ever putting a wrench on the engine.
> > > > Toyotas
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > overrated and overpriced. Not to
> > mention
> > > > cost
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > fortune to repair. Much better off
> > buying
> > > > > > > American.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Very true. I work as a professional
> > > > drive-away
> > > > > for
> > > > > > Carmax, driving cars cross country is
> my
> > > full
> > > > > time
> > > > > > job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of
> > > > > different
> > > > > > cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that
> the
> > > > > dumbest,
> > > > > > most clueless car owners are definitely
> > > > foreign
> > > > > > car owners. I talk to Sales people all
> > over
> > > > and
> > > > > > they constantly snicker when they can
> > > unload
> > > > a
> > > > > POS
> > > > > > import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their
> > best
> > > > > sellers
> > > > > > are domestic cars...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Very true guys. Dollar for dollar, the
> best
> > > > value
> > > > > and cheapest to maintain cars and trucks
> > are
> > > > > domestic. Many uneducated liberals fall
> > into
> > > > the
> > > > > 'imports are better' because cheap Asian
> > > steel
> > > > > makes them lower priced. But in the long
> > run
> > > > you
> > > > > get hosed from rusted out bodies and
> > > overpriced
> > > > > replacement parts.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Couldn't agree more. I was shocked at the
> > cost
> > > of
> > > > replacement parts for my import. ($230 just
> > for
> > > a
> > > > starter). Add that with the cost of repair
> I
> > > was
> > > > no better off than when I owned a domestic
> > car.
> > > In
> > > > fact, I went back to domestic and I'm damn
> > glad
> > > I
> > > > did.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I feel your pain. I'm not sure what makes
> > imports
> > > worse, the Shitty engines, cheap interiors or
> > the
> > > unbelievable rust. I had a toyota tacoma
> once.
> > OMG
> > > what a complete piece of shit. I couldn't
> > believe
> > > how cheaply the body was put together. If the
> > > rattles and squeaks weren't bad enough, the
> > body
> > > started rusting at the seams until you counld
> > > literally put your finger through it.
> Japanese
> > > garbage...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The import rust problem is epidimic, apparently.
> I
> > thought it was just isolated to my toyota
> tacoma.
> > After some basic research I found most imports
> > have this same issue. Here is a link of people
> > trying to deal with the problem.
> >
> > Hope it helps!
> >
> https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&;
>
> > f=71&t=1604696
>
>
> Yes Toyota made the mistake of using an American
> company to build some of their frames. It is
> costing them plenty right now. Americans fuck
> everything up. The new frames are made in Mexico
> or Japan.
> Thank God Americans are unable to make air bag
> canisters!




The issue isn't the frames. It's the rusted out bodies. Try to read the link next time. I wish I had a dollar for every nasty, rusted out import I ever saw...
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> Cassie Wrote:
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> > Cavalier driver Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > Bret from Fairfax Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Repair shop guy Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Motor trend Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You sure about that? I snagged
> this
> > > pic
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > another thread a GM car hitting
> > > 300,000
> > > > > > > miles,
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > still going.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually I had a Toyota once, and it
> > was
> > > > the
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > > car I had to experience engine
> failure.
> > > All
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > American cars I've owned (fords,
> > Chevy's,
> > > > and
> > > > > > > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus
> miles
> > > > > without
> > > > > > > ever putting a wrench on the engine.
> > > > Toyotas
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > overrated and overpriced. Not to
> > mention
> > > > cost
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > fortune to repair. Much better off
> > buying
> > > > > > > American.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Very true. I work as a professional
> > > > drive-away
> > > > > for
> > > > > > Carmax, driving cars cross country is
> my
> > > full
> > > > > time
> > > > > > job so I put a lot of miles on a lot of
> > > > > different
> > > > > > cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that
> the
> > > > > dumbest,
> > > > > > most clueless car owners are definitely
> > > > foreign
> > > > > > car owners. I talk to Sales people all
> > over
> > > > and
> > > > > > they constantly snicker when they can
> > > unload
> > > > a
> > > > > POS
> > > > > > import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their
> > best
> > > > > sellers
> > > > > > are domestic cars...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Very true guys. Dollar for dollar, the
> best
> > > > value
> > > > > and cheapest to maintain cars and trucks
> > are
> > > > > domestic. Many uneducated liberals fall
> > into
> > > > the
> > > > > 'imports are better' because cheap Asian
> > > steel
> > > > > makes them lower priced. But in the long
> > run
> > > > you
> > > > > get hosed from rusted out bodies and
> > > overpriced
> > > > > replacement parts.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Couldn't agree more. I was shocked at the
> > cost
> > > of
> > > > replacement parts for my import. ($230 just
> > for
> > > a
> > > > starter). Add that with the cost of repair
> I
> > > was
> > > > no better off than when I owned a domestic
> > car.
> > > In
> > > > fact, I went back to domestic and I'm damn
> > glad
> > > I
> > > > did.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah, I was just looking at the cost of a new
> > > starter motor for my Cavalier, it's only
> > $141.00
> > > and a starter for my old Corolla is $166.00.
> Of
> > > course I have replaced the Cavalier starter 3
> > > times but the Corolla is still using the
> > original
> > > factory starter even though it is older and
> has
> > > more miles than the Chevy. Go figure.
> >
> >
> > I owned one of these Cavaliers until the
> > transmission died while I was going down the
> > highway at 60 mph. The transmission had never
> been
> > good, the car had also had a problem with the
> > starter. When it was new it was in the shop
> every
> > other week getting another problem fixed. It is
> > cheaply built. While the engine did make it to
> > 78k, it didn't do so reliably. If all of
> Chevy's
> > new cars are built like this Cavalier was, I
> won't
> > ever buy Chevy cars again.
>
>
> Good idea, my son had a Cavalier and the ignition
> switch caught fire on the 301 bridge and locked up
> the steering wheel. He crashed into a Toyota
> Camry. My son was killed while the people in the
> Toyota walked away without a scratch.


That happens very often.

Brown 0nion Wrote:
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> Buicks are excellent for running over wetbacks and
> negros


Fuck you racists asshole.

Ram Charger Wrote:
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> honda pilot pilot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Beef jerky Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Bar maid Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Bret from Fairfax Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Repair shop guy Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Motor trend Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > Car inspector Wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You sure about that? I snagged
> > this
> > > > pic
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > another thread a GM car hitting
> > > > 300,000
> > > > > > > > miles,
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > still going.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Actually I had a Toyota once, and
> it
> > > was
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > car I had to experience engine
> > failure.
> > > > All
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > American cars I've owned (fords,
> > > Chevy's,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > Chryslers) have gone 250,000 plus
> > miles
> > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > ever putting a wrench on the
> engine.
> > > > > Toyotas
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > overrated and overpriced. Not to
> > > mention
> > > > > cost
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > fortune to repair. Much better off
> > > buying
> > > > > > > > American.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Very true. I work as a professional
> > > > > drive-away
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > Carmax, driving cars cross country is
> > my
> > > > full
> > > > > > time
> > > > > > > job so I put a lot of miles on a lot
> of
> > > > > > different
> > > > > > > cars. Well, I'm here to tell you that
> > the
> > > > > > dumbest,
> > > > > > > most clueless car owners are
> definitely
> > > > > foreign
> > > > > > > car owners. I talk to Sales people
> all
> > > over
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > they constantly snicker when they can
> > > > unload
> > > > > a
> > > > > > POS
> > > > > > > import on a unsuspecting idiot. Their
> > > best
> > > > > > sellers
> > > > > > > are domestic cars...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Very true guys. Dollar for dollar, the
> > best
> > > > > value
> > > > > > and cheapest to maintain cars and
> trucks
> > > are
> > > > > > domestic. Many uneducated liberals fall
> > > into
> > > > > the
> > > > > > 'imports are better' because cheap
> Asian
> > > > steel
> > > > > > makes them lower priced. But in the
> long
> > > run
> > > > > you
> > > > > > get hosed from rusted out bodies and
> > > > overpriced
> > > > > > replacement parts.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Couldn't agree more. I was shocked at the
> > > cost
> > > > of
> > > > > replacement parts for my import. ($230
> just
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > starter). Add that with the cost of
> repair
> > I
> > > > was
> > > > > no better off than when I owned a
> domestic
> > > car.
> > > > In
> > > > > fact, I went back to domestic and I'm
> damn
> > > glad
> > > > I
> > > > > did.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I feel your pain. I'm not sure what makes
> > > imports
> > > > worse, the Shitty engines, cheap interiors
> or
> > > the
> > > > unbelievable rust. I had a toyota tacoma
> > once.
> > > OMG
> > > > what a complete piece of shit. I couldn't
> > > believe
> > > > how cheaply the body was put together. If
> the
> > > > rattles and squeaks weren't bad enough, the
> > > body
> > > > started rusting at the seams until you
> counld
> > > > literally put your finger through it.
> > Japanese
> > > > garbage...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The import rust problem is epidimic,
> apparently.
> > I
> > > thought it was just isolated to my toyota
> > tacoma.
> > > After some basic research I found most
> imports
> > > have this same issue. Here is a link of
> people
> > > trying to deal with the problem.
> > >
> > > Hope it helps!
> > >
> >
> https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&;
>
> >
> > > f=71&t=1604696
> >
> >
> > Yes Toyota made the mistake of using an
> American
> > company to build some of their frames. It is
> > costing them plenty right now. Americans fuck
> > everything up. The new frames are made in
> Mexico
> > or Japan.
> > Thank God Americans are unable to make air bag
> > canisters!
>
>
>
>
> The issue isn't the frames. It's the rusted out
> bodies. Try to read the link next time. I wish I
> had a dollar for every nasty, rusted out import I
> ever saw...
> ------





You would be a very rich man, we all would.

The most American car made is the Toyota Camry. If you love America you should buy one.

I had a Camry once. Biggest piece of shit you can imagine.

period

I really wanted one of these but fucking GM never built it. Fuck them, I drive VW's now.
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That's cool as hell.

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Haha Americans get so fucking upset when you bring up the unreliability of their cars. Lived in the states until I was 25 and drove an impala. Biggest piece of shit I ever drove. Had a Ford Escape as a rental after my impala got totaled by a drunk driver and it sucked too. Since I moved to Düsseldorf for work four years ago, I’ve been driving a used Skoda and it’s been far more reliable than anything I’ve driven in the states.

Ford=Dacia Wrote:
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> Haha Americans get so fucking upset when you bring
> up the unreliability of their cars. Lived in the
> states until I was 25 and drove an impala. Biggest
> piece of shit I ever drove. Had a Ford Escape as a
> rental after my impala got totaled by a drunk
> driver and it sucked too. Since I moved to
> Düsseldorf for work four years ago, I’ve been
> driving a used Skoda and it’s been far more
> reliable than anything I’ve driven in the
> states.




Skoda? LMFAO.

Show us where a skoda ranks in the reliability ratings.

American cars are pieces of shit and soon you will all be driving Chinese cars
: - )

I have a Lincoln and a Toyota. The Lincoln has more mechanical problems but I like driving it much better than the Toyota. I drive the Toyota in shitty weather and on long trips to save gas but it is not very comfortable and not fun to drive like the Lincoln.

Studies show people who drive domestic are less educated and not as financially savvy as import drivers.

car&driver Wrote:
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>
>
> Your post shows the dearth of knowledge you
> possess about real world problems people face
> everyday. American cars, for the most part are
> unreliable and are an awful investment. Imports
> are better investments and are much more reliable.


Your post shows how incredibly ignorant you are. An automobile is NOT an investment. It is a required expense for living. An investment earns a return. An automobile purchase is a loss every single time. Even the collector car market is fickle and there is no garuntee your purchase will increase in value.

I just invested in a 2016 Scion IM. TOYOTA took them over and that was the last Scion model year. It's sure to appreciate.

just the facts mam Wrote:
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> The only reason ford sales are the highest is
> because of fleet sales. Federal, state and local
> governments are responsible for nearly half of
> those sales. If our tax dollars were spent wisely
> they would be buying Toyotas.


You haven't seen any fleets in the past 15 years.

Investing investor Wrote:
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> I just invested in a 2016 Scion IM. TOYOTA took
> them over and that was the last Scion model year.
> It's sure to appreciate.


Toyota took over Scion?

can't be this stupid Wrote:
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> Investing investor Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I just invested in a 2016 Scion IM. TOYOTA took
> > them over and that was the last Scion model
> year.
> > It's sure to appreciate.
>
>
> Toyota took over Scion?


Well duh. Scion was Toyota.

Investing investor Wrote:
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> can't be this stupid Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Investing investor Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I just invested in a 2016 Scion IM. TOYOTA
> took
> > > them over and that was the last Scion model
> > year.
> > > It's sure to appreciate.
> >
> >
> > Toyota took over Scion?
>
>
> Well duh. Scion was Toyota.


Yes, Scion was created by Toyota. So how did Toyota "take over" Scion?

Scions are plauged with consumer complaints.


Extensive oil consumption and peeling paint are just 2 of many...


https://www.carcomplaints.com/Scion/

More oil burners Wrote:
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> Scions are plauged with consumer complaints.
>
>
> Extensive oil consumption and peeling paint are
> just 2 of many...
>
>
> https://www.carcomplaints.com/Scion/


but a Scion is really just a Toyota. How bad are Toyotas?

not smart enough to invest Wrote:
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> Investing investor Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > can't be this stupid Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Investing investor Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I just invested in a 2016 Scion IM. TOYOTA
> > took
> > > > them over and that was the last Scion model
> > > year.
> > > > It's sure to appreciate.
> > >
> > >
> > > Toyota took over Scion?
> >
> >
> > Well duh. Scion was Toyota.
>
>
> Yes, Scion was created by Toyota. So how did
> Toyota "take over" Scion?


Because they took over. It's not difficult to understand.

Investing investor Wrote:
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> I just invested in a 2016 Scion IM. TOYOTA took
> them over and that was the last Scion model year.
> It's sure to appreciate.


A scion IM is not going to appreciate, it's not an air cooled Porsche.

Researcher Wrote:
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> Studies show people who drive domestic are less
> educated and not as financially savvy as import
> drivers.


We didn't need a study to tell us that, duh!

freemason7 Wrote:
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> Researcher Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Studies show people who drive domestic are less
> > educated and not as financially savvy as import
> > drivers.
>
>
> We didn't need a study to tell us that, duh!


Humans with high intelligence don’t waste time debating automobiles.

they're all oil burners Wrote:
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> More oil burners Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Scions are plauged with consumer complaints.
> >
> >
> > Extensive oil consumption and peeling paint are
> > just 2 of many...
> >
> >
> > https://www.carcomplaints.com/Scion/
>
>
> but a Scion is really just a Toyota. How bad are
> Toyotas?




According to that link? Toyotas are overpriced garbage.

equal opportunity driver Wrote:
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> I have a Lincoln and a Toyota. The Lincoln has
> more mechanical problems but I like driving it
> much better than the Toyota. I drive the Toyota in
> shitty weather and on long trips to save gas but
> it is not very comfortable and not fun to drive
> like the Lincoln.


A Lincoln? You must be like 75 years old.

JUst buy a Toyota and drive trouble free for 400k miles.

had a mid 80s f150, gave it to a friend with 225,000 on it, all it ever needed was fluid changes, brakes and tires
had a mid 90s f150, sold it with about 275,000 on it, again, all it ever needed was fluid changes, tires and brakes,
now have a '12 f150 approaching 125,000, it's been flawless too

had a mid 90s Chevy car that turned into a lemon the day after the warranty ended

American vehicles aren't junk, but I wouldn't trust anything from GM to go the distance

auto industry analyst Wrote:
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> Statham Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Working for AAA’s roadside assistance, I tow
> > away and service virtually every car on the
> road.
> > What I’ve noticed is 7:10 it’s the American
> > cats that have the most problems. Korean cars
> the
> > fewest. Only cars worse than American cars is
> the
> > pos Jaguars and Aston Martins.
>
>
> A lot of that has to do with maintenance. People
> who buy American cars tend to be ignorant fucks
> who do not properly maintain their vehicles.
> People who buy Honda, Kia, Toyota, Lexus, Mazda
> are generally well educated and of higher
> intelligence.

That is a excellent point. Only Ignorant people buy American vehicles.

Most of the posters on this thread are gay.

I love how triggered this thread has made domesticels. Would take my BMW 8 series over any domestic trash any day of the week.

Import lover Wrote:
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> I love how triggered this thread has made
> domesticels. Would take my BMW 8 series over any
> domestic trash any day of the week.


BMW makes garbage. Your 8 series will break down the day after the warranty expires.

There are no American car companies these days. They are global companies. The companies that are stuck with American union labor are the ones who struggle with reliability. My Lincoln gets repaired often but the dealer sends someone to my house to leave a loaner car and take my car to get repaired so it docent bother me any. I just get the factory extended warranty and let them take care of my less than reliable Lincoln.

Lincoln suv driver Wrote:
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> There are no American car companies these days.
> They are global companies. The companies that are
> stuck with American union labor are the ones who
> struggle with reliability. My Lincoln gets
> repaired often but the dealer sends someone to my
> house to leave a loaner car and take my car to get
> repaired so it docent bother me any. I just get
> the factory extended warranty and let them take
> care of my less than reliable Lincoln.

You’re posting for your mother, huh?

This thread hasn’t been touched in over two month’s.

Hello.
The author is not entirely correct. American cars are very high quality and reliable

Appearance. No matter what anyone says, but the Americans know how to produce efficient cars. Why are muscle cars Ford Mustang, Dodge Charger and Chevrolet Camaro worth, the appearance of which does not remain indifferent even to those who are far from automotive topics. This also includes formidable and instantly inspiring SUVs and pickups.

Everything made in America is low quality.