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WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: 9/11 hero ()
Date: October 23, 2009 09:38PM

It's been almost 11 months and obama has not uttered a word about apologising for 9/11. Your thoughts? I find it a little odd...

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: October 23, 2009 09:39PM

#1, since your post was too fucking stupid to even be considered a post.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: October 24, 2009 01:42AM

It's really only been a month and a half since 9/11.

But what did Obama do a month and a half ago that needs an apology?

I think he's moved on from Chicago losing the Olypmics bid. So has everyone else.

You should, too.

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Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 24, 2009 01:49AM

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: October 24, 2009 01:50AM

chicken

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Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 24, 2009 01:58AM

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:02AM

ill call you a chicken 7 times.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Fag It ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:03AM

Gaylias Wrote:
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> 9/11 hero,
>
> His teleprompter will soon be reprogrammed. So,
> hang in there.




Alias is:A Right Wing NutjobFucking RetardedA RadicalA Menopausal BitchA FlamerUneducatedIgnorantA Mental MidgetAn Old WomanA Fox News WatcherWhite TrashA MoronAll The Above

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:04AM

Alias Wrote:
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> 9/11 hero,
>
> His teleprompter will soon be reprogrammed. So,
> hang in there.


You know how the OP is a "9/11 hero"?

He survived the terrorist onslaught at his office in Reston, and after pissing his pants when he heard about what happened to the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, he braved the dangerous traffic down Reston Parkway to pick up his prodigy children from their school.

It took him 2 hours to get to the school. That is a true American Hero!

(in all fairness, it took 2 hours because of all the traffic and there were about a dozen starbucks between his office and his children's school. It takes time to go in and order a double-decaf chocolate latte half espresso, and then talk to all the other pretentious pricks hanging around in every starbucks.)

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Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:08AM

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:11AM

Alias Wrote:
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> Hey, the last time some kid called me chicken to
> my face, I knocked him off his bike, and punched
> his nose in. He went home crying.


Hey alias, you're an adult now.

The next time you do that, someone might call the cops, and you could even be charged for something.

Especially if you knock a kid off his bike and punch his nose in because he called you a chicken.

This is really friendly advice -- if a kid calls you chicken, just tell him that since you are an adult, you can go buy 20 Wiis and line them up under your car's wheels and smash them, or you could pick up his mother in the town bar and take her home for the night, and just make him cry. Don't hit him.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:14AM

well im sayin it to yo face. whatchu gonna do?

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Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:19AM

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Fag It ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:23AM

Gaylias Wrote:
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> Fag it,
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> You're an old, brain damaged hippie.
>
> Where have all the flowers gone? Have you found
> them, Fag IT?



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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:24AM

whoa harshing the mellow chillout momma bear i found you some groovy flowers. ya dig?



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Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:30AM

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Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:43AM

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:44AM

ok now what?

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:44AM

lets date?

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Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:49AM

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:51AM

i would be delighted, do they serve chicken?

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:56AM

Alias Wrote:
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> Thurston wrote:
>
> "This is really friendly advice -- if a kid calls
> you chicken, just tell him that since you are an
> adult, you can go buy 20 Wiis and line them up
> under your car's wheels and smash them, or you
> could pick up his mother in the town bar and take
> her home for the night, and just make him cry.
> Don't hit him."
> __________________
>
> Involving your opponent's mother?
>
> Where I come from, you'd be inhaling the Hudson
> River.

You missed my point.

As an adult, all you can do is insult the crap out of a bratty POS. Once you do anything physical like hit the little shit, you're screwed.

The next time a kid picks on you, just tell him to ask his daddy why his mommy has been sleeping with the guy down the street, and what's going to happen to him when she leaves him for you and runs off to South Beach with you.

Seriously, I had some punk that kept pulling pranks on me and my neighbors, and I basically told him that when his mother and I got married, we were going to ship him off to military school. He stopped screwing with us, the ding-dong ditching, the toilet paper, the burning dog-poo, all the pranks stopped.

Apparently, his mom actually did run off with some guy, leaving him with his alcoholic father.

Kinda sad, but fuck it, the prick was harassing me and my neighbors.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: October 24, 2009 02:59AM

fuck you (TM) i want some cougar fajitas

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Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 24, 2009 03:02AM

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: October 24, 2009 03:04AM

do they have waffles? I WANT SOME FUCKING WAFFLES

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: October 24, 2009 03:33AM

BB and alias are distracting from the OP.

He's a hero!

He braved the dangerous roads in Reston after NYC and the Pentagon were attacked!

He's a true american 9/11 hero! He braved the terrorist strewn roads and made it from his office to the nearest starbucks in order to order a half-latte half cappucinon, and then armed with the cafeine, was able to liberate his child from school, 2 and a half hours later, to protect that child from the onslaught of terrorists.

He is a true american hero. He was a brave soul on that day.

Just don't ask to see his shorts. He kind of soiled them, a little bit.

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Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 24, 2009 03:45AM

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: October 24, 2009 03:48AM

its a date. meet me at pogo.com table 11 password is fish

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: October 24, 2009 09:33AM

9/11 hero Wrote:
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> It's been almost 11 months and obama has not
> uttered a word about apologising for 9/11. Your
> thoughts? I find it a little odd...

I think Ron Paul already apologised..at least thats what McSame accused him of during one of the debates. The fact is..if you think the US can go around the world and create mayhem in the name of freedom without consequences..you are naive. As a very smart black clergymen once said....the rooosters had come home to roost.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.



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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: 9/11 hero ()
Date: October 24, 2009 09:57AM

I mean, for starters, he has made zero effort to capture osama bin ladin. That's not worth apologizing over? it's been 8 years since we've been brutally attacked by terrorist regimes and we don't even get an apology for his epic FAIL?

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: October 24, 2009 03:23PM

Wow, Thurston. That's... good advice.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: October 26, 2009 01:05AM

9/11 hero Wrote:
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> I mean, for starters, he has made zero effort to
> capture osama bin ladin. That's not worth
> apologizing over? it's been 8 years since we've
> been brutally attacked by terrorist regimes and we
> don't even get an apology for his epic FAIL?


Yeah, because George Bush gets a pass. I don't know why he gets a pass, but apparently that's what they are saying on one 24 hour news channel.

mister "hero", how do you know that Obama isn't making an effort? How come Pakistan is suddenly conducting military operations in NWFP and SWAT, going after taliban and qaeda strong holds and training camps? How come predator strikes across the pakistan border has increased since Obama took office?

Are you fraid to confront the idea that maybe US intelligence has known that Osama has been dead for the past 7 years but the previous administration didn't want to lose the boogeyman that supported their "global war on terror" -- and either someone forgot to tell Obama, or he's not willing to give up the same wonderful benefits of having an "Osama bin Laden" boogey man.

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Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 26, 2009 02:11AM

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 26, 2009 02:40AM

And again, TM comes out with the right bashing commentary (contrary to his pledge of being hyper-partisan). Yes TM, they have conspired to keep the bogeyman alive so they can keep beating the drums of war on terror. Seriously? LOL.

The OP was stupid, your comment was more stupid.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Gothopotamus ()
Date: October 26, 2009 02:42AM

TM doesn't bash the right anymore than your virulent attacks on anybody that doesn't agree with your politics.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: October 26, 2009 02:47AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> And again, TM comes out with the right bashing
> commentary (contrary to his pledge of being
> hyper-partisan). Yes TM, they have conspired to
> keep the bogeyman alive so they can keep beating
> the drums of war on terror. Seriously? LOL.
>
> The OP was stupid, your comment was more stupid.

I was bashing the right?


You need to read my comment again.

I pointed out that Bush did about the same, maybe even less than Obama to capture Osama Bin Laden.

I suggested that the reason nobody wants to admit he's already dead is because it justifies foreign policy.

The only bashing I indulged in was against Fox News, by naming a "24 hour news channel" and yet that caused you to believe I was "bashing the right".

Is attacking Fox News bashing the right? If so, then attacking Goebbels is attacking the reich.

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The function of conservatives is not to meet every liberal program or scheme with a denunciation or a destructive counterscheme, but rather to weigh its advantages and defects, supporting the first and challenging the second. A declaration of ideological warfare against liberalism is by its nature profoundly unconservative. It meets perceived radicalism with a counterradicalism of its own.

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Posted by: Gothopotamus ()
Date: October 26, 2009 02:54AM

Thurston Moore Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And again, TM comes out with the right bashing
> > commentary (contrary to his pledge of being
> > hyper-partisan). Yes TM, they have conspired to
> > keep the bogeyman alive so they can keep
> beating
> > the drums of war on terror. Seriously? LOL.
> >
> > The OP was stupid, your comment was more
> stupid.
>
> I was bashing the right?
>
>
> You need to read my comment again.
>
> I pointed out that Bush did about the same, maybe
> even less than Obama to capture Osama Bin Laden.
>
>
> I suggested that the reason nobody wants to admit
> he's already dead is because it justifies foreign
> policy.
>
> The only bashing I indulged in was against Fox
> News, by naming a "24 hour news channel" and yet
> that caused you to believe I was "bashing the
> right".
>
> Is attacking Fox News bashing the right? If so,
> then attacking Goebbels is attacking the reich.



Just ignore Registered Voter. He's the right wing version of Vince(1). An idiot old man with too much time on his hands. At least Vince has a family, Registered Voter just has his himself to talk too.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 26, 2009 02:55AM

Thurston Moore Wrote:
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> Yeah, because George Bush gets a pass. I don't
> know why he gets a pass,
but apparently that's
> what they are saying on one 24 hour news channel.
>
> mister "hero", how do you know that Obama isn't
> making an effort? How come Pakistan is suddenly
> conducting military operations in NWFP and SWAT,
> going after taliban and qaeda strong holds and
> training camps? How come predator strikes across
> the pakistan border has increased since Obama took
> office?
>
> Are you fraid to confront the idea that maybe US
> intelligence has known that Osama has been dead
> for the past 7 years but the previous
> administration didn't want to lose the boogeyman
> that supported their "global war on terror"
--
> and either someone forgot to tell Obama, or he's
> not willing to give up the same wonderful benefits
> of having an "Osama bin Laden" boogey man.

Regardless of the "unnamed channel", yeah, you bashed the right, and the previous administration. My point being, you seem to be all too willing to jump in and add in to the bashing of "biased" Fox news, but seem to have no hint at all of the ways MSM is biased. Your comments here are like watching the other MSM - "no no, we're not biased, we're in the middle" And yet you give them a pass all the time. Sure TM. lol.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: October 26, 2009 03:00AM

I'm sure someone who hasn't spent too much time watching Fox will know exactly what my comment meant.

You only bolded the parts that offended you, and failed to see the rest of my comment.

> Are you fraid to confront the idea that maybe US
> intelligence has known that Osama has been dead
> for the past 7 years but the previous
> administration didn't want to lose the boogeyman
> that supported their "global war on terror"
--
> and either someone forgot to tell Obama, or he's
> not willing to give up the same wonderful benefits
> of having an "Osama bin Laden" boogey man
.



I know that people that adhere to a radical news media are reactionary, rather than putting thought before action, but you obviously know that 7 years ago, in the fall of 2002, Osama was reported on the news to have been killed in an air strike on some mountain cave complex.

The 7 years that I mention also encompass the 9 months of Obama's term in office.

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Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 26, 2009 03:02AM

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 26, 2009 03:02AM

No - I didn't fail to see that either TM. Seriously, you still have this thing about me not seeing something. No - all that was is your usual attempt to show yourself as being in the middle by then qualifying your statement to show that you somehow believe Obama would keep something like that to himself and continue the war on terror.

Let's see - he is sending more troops to Afghanistan, and he changed the "War on Terror" to some other name - like overseas contingency or somesuch BS. Yeah, so he obviously ISN'T doing what you tried to lamely lump him into.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: October 26, 2009 03:09AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> No - I didn't fail to see that either TM.
> Seriously, you still have this thing about me not
> seeing something. No - all that was is your usual
> attempt to show yourself as being in the middle by
> then qualifying your statement to show that you
> somehow believe Obama would keep something like
> that to himself and continue the war on terror.
>
> Let's see - he is sending more troops to
> Afghanistan, and he changed the "War on Terror" to
> some other name - like overseas contingency or
> somesuch BS. Yeah, so he obviously ISN'T doing
> what you tried to lamely lump him into.


Wow. I pulled you outside of the talking points, and you can't quite say why I am wrong, now it's just that I'm lame.

Do you realize that your "let's see" point supports my contention that Obama is not going to ever admit that OBL is already dead? He's sending MORE troops. Not declaring the global war on terror over, not saying that we no longer need to fear a saudi prince with a band of nutjobs hiding in caves, not saying that we have overcome that which we shit in our pants over.

I'm sorry, but I wasn't bashing the right, anymore than I was bashing the left.

Though, I must say, I do tend to bash the vocal bunch who defends the right and reiterates the daily diatribe against the left only because I find the whole left v right silliness to be destructive and anti american. That might make someone really devoted to the right view me as sympathetic to the left.

But I'm not sympathetic to either side. They're both fucking us over.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 26, 2009 03:15AM

Thurston Moore Wrote:
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> Wow. I pulled you outside of the talking points,
> and you can't quite say why I am wrong, now it's
> just that I'm lame.

Notice - I posted about your bashing by using a lame post and comparison. You are putting too much emphasis on the Obama point. I really didn't care, as it was obviously thrown in as a way to "balance" your statement.
>
> Do you realize that your "let's see" point
> supports my contention that Obama is not going to
> ever admit that OBL is already dead? He's sending
> MORE troops. Not declaring the global war on
> terror over, not saying that we no longer need to
> fear a saudi prince with a band of nutjobs hiding
> in caves, not saying that we have overcome that
> which we shit in our pants over.
>

So, what you are saying is, you believe OBL is dead, and now two administrations have used his false existence to keep us in war? Yeah, that is quite a bit fucked up even for you TM. I was supposing it was a lame response because I would be surprised to find you believe that - to see that you do puts you in a league with birthers and truthers. Nice.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Gothopotamus ()
Date: October 26, 2009 03:25AM

Registered Voter:



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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: October 26, 2009 03:33AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Thurston Moore Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Wow. I pulled you outside of the talking
> points,
> > and you can't quite say why I am wrong, now
> it's
> > just that I'm lame.
>
> Notice - I posted about your bashing by using a
> lame post and comparison. You are putting too much
> emphasis on the Obama point. I really didn't care,
> as it was obviously thrown in as a way to
> "balance" your statement.
> >
> > Do you realize that your "let's see" point
> > supports my contention that Obama is not going
> to
> > ever admit that OBL is already dead? He's
> sending
> > MORE troops. Not declaring the global war on
> > terror over, not saying that we no longer need
> to
> > fear a saudi prince with a band of nutjobs
> hiding
> > in caves, not saying that we have overcome that
> > which we shit in our pants over.
> >
>
> So, what you are saying is, you believe OBL is
> dead, and now two administrations have used his
> false existence to keep us in war? Yeah, that is
> quite a bit fucked up even for you TM. I was
> supposing it was a lame response because I would
> be surprised to find you believe that - to see
> that you do puts you in a league with birthers and
> truthers. Nice.


birthers and truthers have no basis in fact to stand on.

Osama being dead since late 2001 or early 2002 has a lot of intelligence sources to support the idea.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212851/Has-Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-seven-years--U-S-Britain-covering-continue-war-terror.html

This week, still more questions have been raised with the publication in America and Britain of a book called Osama Bin Laden: Dead or Alive?
Written by political analyst and philosopher Professor David Ray Griffin, former emeritus professor at California's Claremont School of Theology, it is provoking shock waves - for it goes into far more detail about his supposed death and suggests there has been a cover-up by the West.
The book claims that Bin Laden died of kidney failure, or a linked complaint, on December 13, 2001, while living in Afghanistan's Tora Bora mountains close to the border with Waziristan.
His burial took place within 24 hours, in line with Muslim religious rules, and in an unmarked grave, which is a Wahhabi custom.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212851/Has-Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-seven-years--U-S-Britain-covering-continue-war-terror.html#ixzz0V1bX5sRP


We all know that the Bush Admin didn't orchestrate 9/11, and we all know that Obama wasn't born in Kenya.

But anyone who pays attention knows that there has been many viable claims that OBL was killed in Tora Bora, or died of Kidney Failure shortly after the US invasion of Afghanistan.

To believe that the United States would perpetuate a myth in order to advance foreign policy is not "conspiracy theory", it is simply an understanding of our history for the last 50+ years.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 26, 2009 03:39AM

Seriously TM? So that would mean the CIA has been orchestrating his fake messages for the last few years. I am not sure what you consider the length of a "cover-up" in comparison to a "conspiracy" - but I would stop while I was ahead if I was in your shoes. Perpetuating a myth would be quite the conspiracy theory indeed.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Gothopotamus ()
Date: October 26, 2009 03:43AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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>
> ...but I would stop while I was ahead if I was in
> your shoes.



Uh oh TM. Look out! Registered Voter is PWNING the threads and setting you up for an epic fail!!

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: October 26, 2009 03:47AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Seriously TM? So that would mean the CIA has been
> orchestrating his fake messages for the last few
> years. I am not sure what you consider the length
> of a "cover-up" in comparison to a "conspiracy" -
> but I would stop while I was ahead if I was in
> your shoes. Perpetuating a myth would be quite the
> conspiracy theory indeed.


You are the conspiracy theorist if you think the CIA is the source of the tapes.

I don't know why it would be beyond the "al qaeda" wahhabists (read, Saudi ISI and clerics) to perpetuate this myth.

It is definitely helping them perpetuate their radical hateful ideology.

I just see the CIA and other western intelligence agencies as being all-too willing to confirm them, not manufacture them. If you think they are manufacturing them, or believe that I am purporting that, you have conspiracy theories on your mind.

He's dead. We would know that if both sides didn't have a vested interest in "keeping him alive".

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The function of conservatives is not to meet every liberal program or scheme with a denunciation or a destructive counterscheme, but rather to weigh its advantages and defects, supporting the first and challenging the second. A declaration of ideological warfare against liberalism is by its nature profoundly unconservative. It meets perceived radicalism with a counterradicalism of its own.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: TefD187 ()
Date: October 26, 2009 08:53AM

run, hide.
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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: graymoose1 ()
Date: October 26, 2009 05:40PM

Obama apologizing for 9-11 is as stupid as congress apologizing for slavery

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 26, 2009 05:59PM

graymoose1 Wrote:
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> Obama apologizing for 9-11 is as stupid as
> congress apologizing for slavery

Yep - thus my point that the OP was stupid. The fact the thread went past #2 is pretty funny. #3 seems to be to blame.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: October 27, 2009 02:29AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> graymoose1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obama apologizing for 9-11 is as stupid as
> > congress apologizing for slavery
>
> Yep - thus my point that the OP was stupid. The
> fact the thread went past #2 is pretty funny. #3
> seems to be to blame.


Yeah, because #3 was me. But all I said was:

Thurston Moore Wrote:
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> It's really only been a month and a half since
> 9/11.
>
> But what did Obama do a month and a half ago that
> needs an apology?
>
> I think he's moved on from Chicago losing the
> Olypmics bid. So has everyone else.
>
> You should, too.

RV, I'm sorry if I offend you when I call out the right wing media. I only do so because they are one half of a paradigm that is destroying this country.

The left might be destroying this nation at the moment, but that is only because they have the power to do so. The right has been complicit in the same destruction, and if you watch a certain cable news channel or listen to certain AM radio, or otherwise stovepipe your information, you wouldn't see the right doing it, but will be angry about how the left is doing it.

Left and Right are parties that control our political discourse. We have no say, unless we subscribe to one angry point of view or the other angry point of view.

Need I remind you that only 20% of Americans still consider themselves "republican" or "conservative"?

I'm one of those FORMER conservatives. I got out of that mess when I realized that both parties are only playing us "voters" while they both work together towards some goal no seriously patriotic American would want to see happen.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/27/2009 02:36AM by Thurston Moore.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: 9/11 hero ()
Date: October 27, 2009 10:40AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> graymoose1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obama apologizing for 9-11 is as stupid as
> > congress apologizing for slavery
>
> Yep - thus my point that the OP was stupid. The
> fact the thread went past #2 is pretty funny. #3
> seems to be to blame.


Ok, prove it. Obama is the president and 9/11 resulted in what wars we are in now. He should apologise to the american people for the bloodbath he got us involved in.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: October 27, 2009 11:13AM

9/11 hero Wrote:
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> Ok, prove it. Obama is the president and 9/11
> resulted in what wars we are in now. He should
> apologise to the american people for the bloodbath
> he got us involved in.

You're a fucking idiot. Please cut off your hands.

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 27, 2009 05:31PM

9/11 hero Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > graymoose1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Obama apologizing for 9-11 is as stupid as
> > > congress apologizing for slavery
> >
> > Yep - thus my point that the OP was stupid. The
> > fact the thread went past #2 is pretty funny.
> #3
> > seems to be to blame.
>
>
> Ok, prove it. Obama is the president and 9/11
> resulted in what wars we are in now. He should
> apologise to the american people for the bloodbath
> he got us involved in.

Thank you for proving my point. The OP is stupid.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Vutorw ()
Date: October 28, 2009 04:08PM

Thats what happens when you "elect" a noopid stigger

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Re: WHen will obama apologise for 9/11?
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 likes dick ()
Date: March 30, 2016 05:13PM

he wont

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