So..how many of you feel safer on FFXU knowing that Gravis...RegisteredVoter and MePhisto are tracking IP addresses to protect us? I know I do...in fact my erections have been firmer and longer since knowing I am being protected. Do you? If you dont perhaps this will help...

All visitors to FFXU should not assume that their privacy is being protected. Quite to the contrary there are a number of “regulars” who feel it is their duty to police those who visit this site against persons they believe are undesireable. Below are instructions to protect yourself. If you choose not to follow them…do not assume your privacy is guaranteed.


How to speed up ffxu and stay undetected from creepers
Posted by: ffxstoner ()
Date: September 30, 2009 09:31PM

You will learn how to avoid getting tracked by gravis. You wont have to wait for his slow servers to load every time you view a thread.

Go to start > run > %systemdrive%/windows/system32/drivers/etc > run the hosts file using notepad and paste the following




127.0.0.1 adaptivetime.com

127.0.0.1 www.adaptivetime.com

127.0.0.1


And now your ip is hidden from gravis no matter what browser your using.

Vince takes his homo-eroticism to new levels. Good for you Vince, let it all hang out.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

It's not Vince.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

Well, since Vince promised to post this every day, I don't have any feelings of guilt over a false accusation :)

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

seriously, this is fucking dumb.why not have this contained to one thread, and then whoever has the hard-on for this can bump it.this fucker needs ban hammer.

i've been sleeping well lately. the only times i have trouble sleeping is a couple of days before a full moon or a couple of days after. i think i may be part werewolf

bloody blisters Wrote:
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> i've been sleeping well lately. the only times i
> have trouble sleeping is a couple of days before a
> full moon or a couple of days after. i think i may
> be part werewolf


That sounds more like a menstrual cycle that is aligned with the phases of the moon.

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Thurston Moore Wrote:
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>
> That sounds more like a menstrual cycle that is
> aligned with the phases of the moon.


shut up

Okay, what in the hell is all this shit about? I don't spend all day on here, so I haven't taken the time I suppose is necessary to understand what all this crap is about...so, for those of us who visit here and post only occasionally, can someone give me the cilff's notes version on what any of this is supposed to mean? Are these posts the work of some disgruntled member here? Or is someone actually tracking my ip address and looking at my personal shit? And if so, why?

You messageboard people scare me. This is why I don't usually last long on these kinds of forums.

Mr. Misery Wrote:
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> Are these posts the work
> of some disgruntled member here? Or is someone
> actually tracking my ip address and looking at my
> personal shit? And if so, why?

A little bit of both, Mr. Misery. The poster of this thread is not trying to help the "common man". This poster is trying to scare some people and annoy others.

There are, however, a few posters who have tiny images embedded into their signatures. Long story short, if you download these images, you give your IP address to the people who own them.

There is some controversy over the morality of this. The few posters that employ these tiny images claim that they are not abusing the information, and that they are only using the information to identify unregistered "stalker troll" posts, people who use unregistered names to harass or to expose personal information of others..

There are a few people who feel as though their privacy is being violated by these tracking images.

>
> You messageboard people scare me. This is why I
> don't usually last long on these kinds of forums.

These "tiny tracking images" tactics are not exclusive to message boards. Thousands of websites use similar tactics. You have every right to be afraid...

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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>
> There is some controversy over the morality of
> this. The few posters that employ these tiny
> images claim that they are not abusing the
> information, and that they are only using the
> information to identify unregistered "stalker
> troll" posts, people who use unregistered names to
> harass or to expose personal information of
> others..
>


This forum has stalkers?

HowDoYou Wrote:
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> So..how many of you feel safer on FFXU knowing
> that Gravis...RegisteredVoter and MePhisto are
> tracking IP addresses to protect us? I know I
> do...



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Mr. Misery Wrote:
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> Okay, what in the hell is all this shit about? I
> don't spend all day on here, so I haven't taken
> the time I suppose is necessary to understand what
> all this crap is about...so, for those of us who
> visit here and post only occasionally, can someone
> give me the cilff's notes version on what any of
> this is supposed to mean? Are these posts the work
> of some disgruntled member here? Or is someone
> actually tracking my ip address and looking at my
> personal shit? And if so, why?
>
> You messageboard people scare me. This is why I
> don't usually last long on these kinds of forums.

Its not just anyone stalking you, its an obese gothapotamous who spends alot of time on this site. He has the knowledge to h4x your pc and make your hd spin at 20,000 rpm causing it to break.

You must not have been lurking for a very long time. I'm relatively new here and I know that this forum does, indeed, have stalkers (cyber or otherwise). People have received harassing calls at their place of business... Others have had their real life identity exposed.

Please note, I used quotation marks along with the term "stalker troll" to encompass other definitions of stalking that I may or may not agree with.

Lurking here Wrote:
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> This forum has stalkers?

He's more of a nuisance than a threat, though... He sometimes goes by ffxstoner.

4200cc Wrote:
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> Its not just anyone stalking you, its an obese
> gothapotamous who spends alot of time on this
> site. He has the knowledge to h4x your pc and make
> your hd spin at 20,000 rpm causing it to break.

No one here has ever made phone calls to someone's workplace. That was made up by a certain someone to get sympathy and attention. The****er is an attention whore.

Bullshit Wrote:
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> No one here has ever made phone calls to someone's
> workplace. That was made up by a certain someone
> to get sympathy and attention. The****er is an
> attention whore.

Boy, do I have a story to tell you.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

What the hell do you want from us? Tell the fucking story already!

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Boy, do I have a story to tell you.

bloody blisters Wrote:
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> i've been sleeping well lately. the only times i
> have trouble sleeping is a couple of days before a
> full moon or a couple of days after. i think i may
> be part werewolf


I have trouble sleeping when I'm hungry. I fly around looking for AIDS free dames. I must be a Vampire.

i do the same thing, except i prefer ones with AIDS

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> What the hell do you want from us? Tell the
> fucking story already!

I think you know it already.

"Once upon a time, there was a poster known as inkahootz..."

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

.......who's special brand of lunacy came to roost one fine day at FFXU-land....

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I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.

Au contraire! My pink and purple aura makes me appear more knowledgeable than I actually am. I've heard plenty of 'hootz stories... but have yet to hear of anything involving the workplace...

MrMephisto Wrote:
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>
> I think you know it already.
>
> "Once upon a time, there was a poster known as
> inkahootz..."

He showed up with a great tan, a lot of bling, pictures of skanks he calls ex girlfriends, and the best tapout attire money can buy. Plus great fisting stories

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Mr. Misery Wrote:
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> Are these posts the work of some disgruntled member here?

yes.


> is someone actually tracking my ip address

yes.


> and looking at my personal shit?

no.


> And if so, why?

Quote
one of my earlier posts
i dont track everyday people, when waves or trolls come in, i use it to identify trolls posts with each other because they never use the same poster name. honestly though, i am not interested in who the rest of you are.

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from another one of my posts
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> For the people worried about Gravis's tracker, I
> challenge you to find an instance where he's
> abused it, maliciously and unprovoked.
>
> I'll save you some time: you won't, because Gravis
> is more ethical than the people accusing him are.

my street cred!

some info for people who dont "get it" when it comes to IP addresses and tracking them

What exactly does an ip address say about me?

it can be used to identify the location of your ISP and uniquely identifies you.


So it says where I am?!

no, it says where your ISP is. if you put your an IP address into a lookup tool like this one: http://www.melissadata.com/Lookups/iplocation.asp it will tell you some general information.

this is an example of information about my personal stalker/troll that is a huge fan of mine.

IP Address Location
IP Address	24.125.176.133
City	Richmond
State or Region	Virginia
Country	United States
ISP	Comcast Cable Communications Holdings Inc.

as you can see, it's not much information other than the city they are in.


What good is that information?

it's worth jack squat. what is important is the log of the address it's access from.

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example log entries for my troll

24.125.176.133 - - [05/Jul/2009:01:28:06 -0400] "http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/209121/209268.html#msg-209268"
24.125.176.133 - - [27/Aug/2009:21:00:13 -0400] "http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/232515/232976.html#msg-232976"
24.125.176.133 - - [27/Aug/2009:21:02:45 -0400] "http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/232515/232979.html#msg-232979"

if you look at each post, you will notice each one is made with a different poster name.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/209121/209268.html#msg-209268 - posted by - Scripter75
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/232515/232976.html#msg-232976 - posted by - FFXU Policy Enforcement
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/232515/232979.html#msg-232979 - posted by - This is for SRE

individually, each post and name is from a faceless unknown but together you can see this is one troll. you can actually call them out on their bullshit, especially when they respond to their own posts.


So you look at what other people do?!

i have better things to do than look at what people do on FU. i only check the logs when trolls start getting out of hand and even then i use a search to filter out irrelevant information.


So you look at what I do?!

no, not unless you are a troll.


I'm not a troll, so why are you looking at what I do?!

I'm not.


I'm calling the FBI because you are hacking me by having my IP!

*sigh* you do that.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

how would a person go about calling the FBI? they dont advertise their number. you dont call them, they call you?

Here's one from the lost archives:
But, Gravman, can't the super h4xorz of the world use my IP address to harm my computer or invade my privacy? Should I worry?

Gravis Wrote:
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> bullshit


Gravis, Gravis, Gravis, old boy, you don't stop do you with the accusations do you?

You love to pin shit on me, tell Cary I make this thread, tell people I'm that screen name, which is all bullshit. Make all the displays of my IP you want, you and I know I don't make 90% of the posts you claim I make. You take advantage of the fact people here will take your word for everything you post.


You really think I'm the only one trolling you? Just like you claimed that I was the one starting all the "Hide your IP" threads, you don't know shit.

You should really tell people why you are so pissed at "Vargis Rose." Maybe a little history lesson for the forum would do some good. Matter of fact, why don't you disable robots.txt from adaptivetime so people know what I'm talking about.

a) where exactly did i post that "bullshit" comment?
b) is there something wrong with being bipolar?


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2009 12:29AM by Gravis.

Gravis Wrote:
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> a) where exactly did i post that "bullshit"
> comment?
> b) is there something wrong with being bipolar?


a. The majority of your post directed at me was bullshit.

b. No, but the way you have humiliated and degraded people over the years leaves you wide open for criticism.


As I said, since both of us know I am not responsible for the posts and threads you claim I make, you should really tell people why you want to discredit "Vargis Rose" as much as possible.

Gravis Wrote:
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> a) where exactly did i post that "bullshit"
> comment?

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Gravis Wrote:
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> you can actually call them out on
> their bullshit, especially when they respond to
> their own posts.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/258885/261376.html#msg-261376

> b) is there something wrong with being bipolar?

I'm going to say "no"... For a more accurate answer, please define "wrong"...


c) why leave me hanging with the lost archive question?

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Posts
From: Vargis Rose
To: Gravis
Date: 10/23/2009 12:51AM

I'm tired of people posting personal info on each other and making personal attacks and then cry victim when it happens to them. You are guilty of this several times over, you posted my .

You keep trying to discredit this screen name. Hey, its only a troll name, i have plenty more. I will more false info you post and will get under your skin more than most people ever have here.

I can be fair, let me know if you want the pics and old blog entries taken down. It's really irritating that you keep posting threads and posts I made, people should be kept in the dark.

a) wtf?
b)
c)
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Vargis Rose Wrote:
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> Gravis Wrote:
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> > a) where exactly did i post that "bullshit"
> > comment?
>
> a. The majority of your post directed at me was
> bullshit.

which part was incorrect? are you saying another troll from richmond with your ip address posted on FU? it's logged, those are your posts.


> > b) is there something wrong with being bipolar?
>
> b. No, but the way you have humiliated and
> degraded people over the years leaves you wide
> open for criticism.

so, you are going to attack me based on genetic attributes? xD



troll, ive missed you. :)


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2009 01:14AM by Gravis.

Gravis Wrote:
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> Altered Private Message

This is the original PM I sent, not the one you altered. I don't give two shits that you post my IP address.
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Gravis Wrote:
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>
> which part was incorrect? are you saying another
> troll from richmond with your ip address posted on
> FU? it's logged, those are your posts.

Funny. How hard is it to fabricate an access log showing I made those posts? Again, you are just trying to discredit me.
>
>

>
> so, you are going to attack me based on genetic
> attributes? xD
>

Poor Gravis. Crying victim comes natural to you doesn't it?

>
>
> troll, ive missed you. :)

Yeah, that's why you told Cary twice to ban me and you call me your "personal stalker." I guess you love the attention.

ok... can you please answer c?

Vargis Rose Wrote:
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> Gravis Wrote:
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> > Altered Private Message
>
> This is the original PM I sent, not the one you
> altered.

are you kidding me? ANYBODY could change the html to say whatever they want and make it look "official". it would have been better if that was the PM you sent.

im sure this is the REAL message!


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
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Gravis Wrote:
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> Vargis Rose Wrote:
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> -----
> > Gravis Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > > Altered Private Message
> >
> > This is the original PM I sent, not the one you
> > altered.
>
> are you kidding me? ANYBODY could change the html
> to say whatever they want and make it look
> "official". it would have been better if that was
> the PM you sent.
>
> im sure this is the REAL message!



Yeah, like I said, the more you try to discredit me, the more I know I got under your skin.

Edit: You have over 600 messages in your inbox? You ever heard of creating folders?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2009 01:49AM by Vargis Rose.

It appears as though my legitimate security question has been caught up in the cross-fire...

There's a reason it was in the lost archives to begin with...

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> It appears as though my legitimate security
> question has been caught up in the cross-fire...
>
> There's a reason it was in the lost archives to
> begin with...


And he won't answer it, because as I said before, he doesn't know shit. This forum is about the only power he will ever have, Lord knows he doesn't have any in real life.

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> Here's one from the lost archives:

But, Gravman, can't the super h4xorz of the world use my IP address to harm my computer or invade my privacy? Should I worry?

hackers rarely attack clients directly. 99% of the time it will be something gets downloaded and executed from a website. servers are directly attacked and when compromised, the sites they serve are altered so the former will happen.

that said, i have the chinese try to hack into my machine via ssh (from the login attempts, it looked like they thought i was running an ssh server on windows). how could the chinese possibly find my ip address? a) i visited a website they have server side access to, so they have the same type of information like the tracker images provide or b) make one up that is in the region you want to attack and have at it. so, if you are attacked directly, it's not going to be related to FU.

if you go to any site, the server admins will know your IP address. it's like being afraid of being someone coming to kill you because your street address is in the phone directory.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2009 02:17AM by Gravis.

With an IP address, someone can try to DOS your computer, but a single user can't do much to you.

On Gravis' skill level, the most he could do is a basic ping flood, but with today's broadband connections, this is irrelevant. He could DOS Vince(1), since Vince is using a 56k modem, and Gravis has much more bandwith than him.

On a very experienced level, someone could scan your open ports and try something malicious, but I am confident that is beyond anything Gravis could handle.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2009 02:14AM by Vargis Rose.

vr, it's cute how you think you know more than me.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Gravis Wrote:
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> vr, it's cute how you think you know more than me.


Well, I don't know you IRL, and you don't know me, so it's kinda hard for you to gauge. Like I said, this forum is the closest you will ever come to any resemblance of power.

Vargis Rose Wrote:
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> Harry, since Gravis is unable to answer your question, I'll put in my two cents.

He basically did answer it...

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that said, i have the chinese try to hack into my machine via ssh (from the login attempts, it looked like they thought i was running an ssh server on windows). how could the chinese possibly find my ip address? a) i visited a website they have server side access to, so they have the same type of information like the tracker images provide

Basically, the answer is "yes, with your ip, hackers can attack your computer. it is, however, improbable that the hacker got your ip from FU... just make sure you have a good firewall."

hit stiks

Mr. Misery Wrote:
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> Okay, what in the hell is all this shit about? I
> don't spend all day on here, so I haven't taken
> the time I suppose is necessary to understand what
> all this crap is about...so, for those of us who
> visit here and post only occasionally, can someone
> give me the cilff's notes version on what any of
> this is supposed to mean? Are these posts the work
> of some disgruntled member here? Or is someone
> actually tracking my ip address and looking at my
> personal shit? And if so, why?
>
> You messageboard people scare me. This is why I
> don't usually last long on these kinds of forums.

Hahaha

Vargis Rose Wrote:
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> This forum is about the only
> power he will ever have, Lord knows he doesn't
> have any in real life.

bloody blisters Wrote:
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> i've been sleeping well lately. the only times i
> have trouble sleeping is a couple of days before a
> full moon or a couple of days after. i think i may
> be part werewolf


i like good sleep and werewolf moviees!

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I missed something here. A person posts an image that they are hosting, and they seen when anyone sees the image. (Your browser connects to their image server, revealing your IP address.) But there is nothing to connect that IP address to any particular FFXU user. The IP address could be anyone on the Internet who happened to access that image.

The forum operator (Cary) can see the IP address of anyone who posts on the forum, and can tell which of these randomly-generated-name posts are all from me (more or less). But that doesn't have anything to do with those images hosted on another server. Cary doesn't need the image server's access logs; the image server doesn't have any information on who is posting anything.

There is no connection between someone reading or posting on FFXU and any IP address that happens to access someone's image URL. I don't get it. How is this supposed reveal engineered?

(I mean, Cary can tell, more or less, that a collection of posts is from me. Not that all posts, more or less, are from me!)

Someone can either see the IP addresses of posters, or not. They can only do that if they have special access to FFXU (some kind of admin mode, or actually reading the server logs). And that person would only be Cary, wouldn't it?

Someone's random images are not useful in that process; it doesn't tell you anything useful at all.

????

Are you talking about PMs? Detecting alt accounts via PMs, by putting unique images into PMs and seeing that two PM threads are coming from the same IP address?

That would work.

Not being registered, PMs didn't occur to me...

But you still can't correlate PMs with public posts in any way.