Saudis ask for aid if world cuts dependence on oil
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/energy/6657947.html

These guys are delusional. All this money these fools have been raking in over the last few years and they are going to whine about not having money later? Lol

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

Maybe they need to spend less money on Bentleys, Russian whores and Al Qaeda and spend more money on developing new industries and technologies to make their country competitive in the global economy.

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They should have started diversifying a generation ago. It just shows how greedy and 1-dimensional Arabs are. Once we have no use for their oil, we'll drop the Middle East like a bad habit and let them destroy themselves.

How are they suppose to diversify when their only two natural resources are oil and sand?

They can always fall back on their hotel and spa industry.

Or, they can build amusement parks like they did in Iraq. Except they would have use their own money, unlike the Iraqis who used US foreign aid to fund the design and construction of those "critical infrastructure projects."

Maybe they could start marketing high end glass products. With all that sand out there I am sure someone can come up with some pretty innovative ways to market glass.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

That campaign comes despite an International Energy Agency report released this week showing that OPEC revenues would still increase $23 trillion between 2008 and 2030 — a fourfold increase compared to the period from 1985 to 2007


im not really worried for them.

Fuck Saudi Arabia. I wish this country would get its shit together and develop some technology that renders them and the rest of that bunghole of the world obsolete.

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They should use all that sand and fashion an enormous glass dildo to be used to penetrate the west. That will show us.

Or we could drop several nukes in that area, and harvest glass ourselves...

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Warhawk Wrote:
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> I wish this country would get
> its shit together and develop some technology that
> renders them and the rest of that bunghole of the
> world obsolete.

+1

oh... and chavez would hate us even more, if that's even possible. ;)


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Maybe they need to spend less money on Bentleys,
> Russian whores and Al Qaeda and spend more money
> on developing new industries and technologies to
> make their country competitive in the global
> economy.


Several gulf states have diversified their economies. Saudi Arabia is, instead, focused solely on making money off of oil and using that money to spread the most violent and hateful version of islam all around the world.

Fuck them. They suck. I hope the emirates own them once the oil dries up.

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The Saudis have enough damn sun and open space, they should take the lead in developing Solar Technology.

However, I will say that I do understand their dilemma. Alaska for instance, if we somehow attempt to completely do away with "Fossil Fuels" as an energy source, will soon delve into complete poverty, unless we can figure out a solution beforehand.

fuck alaska. they arent even connected to the mainland i think we will survive without them

Thurston Moore Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> -----
> > Maybe they need to spend less money on
> Bentleys,
> > Russian whores and Al Qaeda and spend more
> money
> > on developing new industries and technologies
> to
> > make their country competitive in the global
> > economy.
>
>
> Several gulf states have diversified their
> economies. Saudi Arabia is, instead, focused
> solely on making money off of oil and using that
> money to spread the most violent and hateful
> version of islam all around the world.
>
> Fuck them. They suck. I hope the emirates own
> them once the oil dries up.


The wild thing is that the Wahhabis used to be only a relatively small fanactical tribe which lived around Riyadh, and the vast majority of the other Arab tribes did not agree with them, nor get along with them. It has only been within the past 20 years or so that Wahhabism has suddenly arisen and begun to take over the World.

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> The wild thing is that the Wahhabis used to be
> only a relatively small fanactical tribe which
> lived around Riyadh, and the vast majority of the
> other Arab tribes did not agree with them, nor get
> along with them. It has only been within the past
> 20 years or so that Wahhabism has suddenly arisen
> and begun to take over the World.


You're right about all of the above, except I believe it's been more than just the last 20 years. The Saud family and the Wahhabist sect have been in a power sharing arrangement since at least the 1930's.

The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt was deeply influenced by the Saudi funded, wahhabist oriented universities in Saudi Arabia and Egypt, for example.

Hundreds of millions of Saudi oil dollars slowly made the fanaticism of wahhabis a little bit more acceptable by the other arab and muslim groups. Before the oil money came along, they were definitely considered the lunatic fringe of islam.

Although I guess it can be said that the true nature of Wahhabism has only become fully understood by the west in the last 20 years, and especially so in the last 10 or 15.

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Thurston Moore Wrote:
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> ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> -----
> >
> > The wild thing is that the Wahhabis used to be
> > only a relatively small fanactical tribe which
> > lived around Riyadh, and the vast majority of
> the
> > other Arab tribes did not agree with them, nor
> get
> > along with them. It has only been within the
> past
> > 20 years or so that Wahhabism has suddenly
> arisen
> > and begun to take over the World.
>
>
> You're right about all of the above, except I
> believe it's been more than just the last 20
> years. The Saud family and the Wahhabist sect
> have been in a power sharing arrangement since at
> least the 1930's.
>
> The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt was deeply
> influenced by the Saudi funded, wahhabist oriented
> universities in Saudi Arabia and Egypt, for
> example.
>
> Hundreds of millions of Saudi oil dollars slowly
> made the fanaticism of wahhabis a little bit more
> acceptable by the other arab and muslim groups.
> Before the oil money came along, they were
> definitely considered the lunatic fringe of
> islam.
>
> Although I guess it can be said that the true
> nature of Wahhabism has only become fully
> understood by the west in the last 20 years, and
> especially so in the last 10 or 15.


The one disturbing observation I noticed came from this influential female Egyptian author (A Muslim herself). She described growing up in Cairo, and she said that during the 1970's it was very common place to see women in Bikinis at the pools, and to generally be very Westernized in their overall dress and attitude. However, she said that when she went back there, which I believe was sometime in the latter 1990's to early 2000's, she described how all of the women were now fully covered in Burqas, and they have been taken over by this subservience and basically enslaved attitude towards men and others in their society. You are completely on point, because she had nothing good to say about the Muslim Brotherhood, and the oppression which they had brought about to much of Egypt.

Look at that stupid Saudi Academy in Ffx, they've been proven in their radical teachings, yet how do our elected officials respond? They expand their campus, and subsequently their influence as well.

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> The one disturbing observation I noticed came from
> this influential female Egyptian author (A Muslim
> herself). She described growing up in Cairo, and
> she said that during the 1970's it was very common
> place to see women in Bikinis at the pools, and to
> generally be very Westernized in their overall
> dress and attitude. However, she said that when
> she went back there, which I believe was sometime
> in the latter 1990's to early 2000's, she
> described how all of the women were now fully
> covered in Burqas, and they have been taken over
> by this subservience and basically enslaved
> attitude towards men and others in their society.
> You are completely on point, because she had
> nothing good to say about the Muslim Brotherhood,
> and the oppression which they had brought about to
> much of Egypt.

There are still parts of Egypt where women in bikinis is still tolerated, and the government itself is somewhat secular, but this virulent saudi form of islam has been perpetuated using Saudi wealth, to the extent that in many parts of the country this "sharia law" bullshit is more powerful than the government.


>
> Look at that stupid Saudi Academy in Ffx, they've
> been proven in their radical teachings, yet how do
> our elected officials respond? They expand their
> campus, and subsequently their influence as well.

If only our politicians were capable of intelligent understanding of these dynamics, instead of just bowing to the lobby with the biggest fundraising track records (and payoffs and what-not), we would be better able to deal with the small percentage of nutjobs that make up "radical" or "fundamentalist" islam, and could put a stop to the spread of this hatred, instead of demonizing all of islam for the crazy shit caused by a few who are influenced by Saudi Arabia's form of islam.

The Saudis are our real enemy in the "War on Terror", yet nobody in a position of power will acknowledge this since we get a decent proportion of our oil from them.

If there was an honest discourse between the political parties and lobby groups and think tanks in this country, and the citizens, we could deal with Saudi Arabia in realistic terms, and could unequivocally get them to break with their clerical establishment in order to survive as a monarchy.

Instead, we citizens are kept in the dark and lied to so that the politicians can just continue operating in the status quou, and can avoid the uncomfortable reality.

The Saudis caused 9/11, they continue to pour hundreds of millions of dollars into madrassas, schools, and mosques all over the world spreading the most hate-filled, anti-western form of islam.

Yet we are told that everything is great, the Saudis are our friends, no need to worry, nothing to see here. George W. Bush even took part in a photo op where he was holding hands with King Abdullah. Who knows how Obama will handle this, but I'm sure he won't take a stand, either.

This relationship, like our relationship with Israel, shows exactly how this country isn't run by the elected, or by the people voting, because the same foundational policies continue regardless of who is in office.

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The function of conservatives is not to meet every liberal program or scheme with a denunciation or a destructive counterscheme, but rather to weigh its advantages and defects, supporting the first and challenging the second. A declaration of ideological warfare against liberalism is by its nature profoundly unconservative. It meets perceived radicalism with a counterradicalism of its own.

Obama allegedly bowed to the Saudi king or prince. Don't remember which one it was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY

FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> Obama allegedly bowed to the Saudi king or prince.
> Don't remember which one it was.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY


Yeah, and Bush holds hands with Abdullah, and the Bush family considers Bandar a part of the family.

Just goes to show you, the whole "two party" bullshit is all just a charade. It just keeps us voters in line while the true owners of this country continue to run the show exactly the way they want it run.

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how is that a .jpg?


do you know how that was done?



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Nope.

Presumably photoshop work converted into an animated gif.

bloody blisters Wrote:
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> do you know how that was done?


right click on the .gif you want to make a .jpg and select "rename". now change the ending from .gif to .jpg


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

whats the point? just to make a smaller file size or something?

i meant how the picture was done. did they just tween the two pics with a shit load of frames in between or is there another method?

bloody blisters Wrote:
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> whats the point?

to change the extension of the file from .gif to .jpg


> just to make a smaller file size or something?

no, the file is unchanged, only the name is differnt.


> did they just tween the two pics with a shit
> load of frames in between

yes.


> or is there another method?

magic.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/12/2009 03:19AM by Gravis.

weird



Edit: you left the italics open. fixed it



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