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Who is this "We" they are talking about? And now they just want to propose a "carbon tax" instead? They just don't get it - anything that is a new tax - in particular as it relates to the production or use of energy, is going to cause a lot more problems then it solves. They have put so much spending on the table that they are now required to put new taxes in place however they can come up with them - so here we have a case where they want to just put in place a tax "because it is easier to enforce"?
Gah - this is why I don't read the post. Yes, they ARE biased - much like Fox News is.
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Cap and Trade
Posted by:
pgens
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Date: August 18, 2009 09:28PM
Today's Washington Post editorial section appeared to support cap and trade proposals. Discuss.
Re: Cap and Trade
Posted by:
Registered Voter
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Date: August 18, 2009 09:31PM
So?
We have discussed it before - did the post offer some new evidence that China and India were going to abide by CO2 emission reductions that would make anything we do here meaningful?
There was already a thread on this also - didn't someone start one with "aand" in the title where they actually linked the article?
EDIT: My bad - there was no link there either :)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/18/2009 09:33PM by Registered Voter.
We have discussed it before - did the post offer some new evidence that China and India were going to abide by CO2 emission reductions that would make anything we do here meaningful?
There was already a thread on this also - didn't someone start one with "aand" in the title where they actually linked the article?
EDIT: My bad - there was no link there either :)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/18/2009 09:33PM by Registered Voter.
Re: Cap and Trade
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: August 18, 2009 09:42PM
Link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/17/AR2009081702477.html
"If Congress fails to pass cap-and-trade legislation, it will rapidly approach a fork in the road in addressing global warming. Members can sit back while unelected bureaucrats at the Environmental Protection Agency follow through on their moves toward regulating greenhouse gas emissions as a pollutant under the Clean Air Act. Or they can entertain a carbon-based tax designed to reduce emissions and give the money back to taxpayers in an equitable manner."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/17/AR2009081702477.html
"If Congress fails to pass cap-and-trade legislation, it will rapidly approach a fork in the road in addressing global warming. Members can sit back while unelected bureaucrats at the Environmental Protection Agency follow through on their moves toward regulating greenhouse gas emissions as a pollutant under the Clean Air Act. Or they can entertain a carbon-based tax designed to reduce emissions and give the money back to taxpayers in an equitable manner."
Re: Cap and Trade
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: August 18, 2009 10:00PM
Quote
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Yet there are other options worthy of consideration. Yes, we're talking about a carbon tax. It would be relatively simple to devise and easy to implement. It would require no new bureaucracy, and the revenue generated could be rebated to the taxpayer in any number of ways -- through a payroll tax reduction, for instance.
We know we are running counter to Washington's tax-averse conventional wisdom. But we are not alone in our support of the carbon tax. There were three such bills in the House. One of the inventors of the cap-and-trade concept, Thomas Crocker, told the Wall Street Journal last week that he favors a carbon tax because he believes it's easier to enforce.
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Who is this "We" they are talking about? And now they just want to propose a "carbon tax" instead? They just don't get it - anything that is a new tax - in particular as it relates to the production or use of energy, is going to cause a lot more problems then it solves. They have put so much spending on the table that they are now required to put new taxes in place however they can come up with them - so here we have a case where they want to just put in place a tax "because it is easier to enforce"?
Gah - this is why I don't read the post. Yes, they ARE biased - much like Fox News is.
Re: Cap and Trade
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: August 18, 2009 10:12PM
Anyone who voices an opinion has a bias..you post sites that are filled with nothing but opinions using twisted logic. The Washington Post is a mainstream organization..comparing it to the hate producing Fox "news" network only shows how easily you lie.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Re: Cap and Trade
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: August 19, 2009 01:28AM
i dont think global change (ice age a decade ago and it's warming?) is a direct result of anything people have done. besides, if CO2 is such a problem, when why not just put out lots of plants that are REALLY good at sucking up CO2?
i think everyone is going about this [non-]issue the wrong way.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
i think everyone is going about this [non-]issue the wrong way.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."