Registered Voter Wrote:
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> PP - this was your point. YOU are the one that
> took off on a vector. Your original post on this
> came out of nowhere, and the OP said nothing about
> slavery - you were the one that injected it into
> the thread.
Yes, my original post was off on a vector. However I think it's clear that you misinterpreted it as somehow being an assertion that Christianity started slavery. I've posted the evidence and you've ignored it.
Own up to it - admit that you misread my initial statement.
> Later, when I made a point that
> objected to your claim that Christianity was where
> slavery came from, you pulled a few references out
> of the Bible to show that it made references to
> slaves and how to treat them or not.
Okay, let's take this slowly since you seem to have trouble comprehending this. AT NO POINT did I state that slavery came from Christianity. EVEN a tortured reading of my sarcastic initial post would indicate AT BEST that I was accusing the OP of stating such.
GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.
The references I've provided for the bible are in regards to the claim that the bible is 'conflicted' on slavery - it is not. You know this and you refuse to deal with it. Instead you are throwing up red herrings left and right and arguing against strawmen.
I've pointed this out multiple times now and you have refused to deal with what I've actually stated - instead you keep quoting OTHER POSTS from earlier in the thread. Please be honest in your discussion. If you are going to quote something, quote the post you are responding to. That way, it will be clear when you FAIL to address what I'm saying.
> Slavery existed BEFORE Christianity, and IMHO it
> is as much gone because of Christianity as it was
> justified by Christianity - in particular since
> the Bible was subject to interpretation.
1. No one has argued that slavery did not exist prior to Christianity - this is your strawman.
2. Christianity is not the reason slavery is gone. Christian people are the reason it's gone (or one of the reasons). You cannot justify getting rid of slavery with what is laid out in the bible. You may think you can, but those thoughts have been shown to be baseless - since you overwhelmingly fail to support them.
> Sorry I
> was not more specific - although I was a bit more
> specific when I was taking objection to your
> sudden leap from the OP to the justification of
> slavery.
The quantum leap is still your continued strawman and your unsupported position that Christian doctrine has anything AT ALL to do with the anti-slavery movement.
I have asked you repeatedly to provide biblical support for this - you have refused, instead you have focused on handwaving away objections. This is simply not rational at all.
> Abolition - Wiki:
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism
>
> Age of Enlightenment - Wiki:
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment
>
> You are the one that jumped in with your point
> about slavery. Great, you justified it. Nice job
> taking what the OP said and rolling it into a
> completely different issue.
I put in a sarcastic post and you took it seriously. I may not be funny, but at least I can tell the difference between a serious post and one that isn't.
> Nice hijack. Lol
You are more to blame than I, since you not only took my initial post seriously, you created a strawman that was NEVER argued.