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Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Date: May 26, 2016 09:51PM

Just when you thought the 2016 election was starting to get a little predictable, a big wrench has been thrown into the works.

A Donald Trump vs. Bernie Sanders debate in the coming days before the June 7th California primary is getting closer to becoming a reality. If this happens, it will likely be a huge boost for Sanders, a mild aid to Trump, and -- to borrow the key buzz word of this election so far – a YUGE pain in the neck for Hillary Clinton.

For Sanders, this entire election has been a "nothing to lose" proposition. He was given no chance to even make a dent in Mrs. Clinton's inevitable coronation, er presidential nomination, by the Democrats. And as a lifetime Senate backbencher, he was not in danger of losing a chairmanship or leadership position. While it's basically impossible for Sanders to overtake Clinton in the delegate battle, the latest PPIC poll shows Sanders trails her by just two percentage points among likely California primary voters.

Needless to say, if Sanders wins this primary it will wound Mrs. Clinton greatly. And Sanders chances to do just that would rise if this debate comes off. The contest would no doubt be the most-watched event in Sanders' political life and Clinton wouldn't even be there to defend herself. For a campaign that's been suffering a number of failures lately, its refusal to debate Sanders and setting off this alternative contest vs. Trump is perhaps the biggest failure yet. She can't even benefit from a sympathy factor if Trump and Sanders get too nasty in attacking her in absentia, because her absence is entirely her own fault.

It's also not wise for Clinton to allow any major campaign event to occur without her participation. With many right wing and progressive voters still hoping she may be disqualified from the race if she is indicted over her State Department email scandal, this kind of "Clinton-less" event gives them a taste of what they've been praying for all year.

The only potential negative for Sanders is he's wading into waters vs. Trump that he's not quite used to. His battle with the Clinton campaign has become nastier of late, but it's nothing compared to what Donald Trump's opponents have had to face over the past 10 months. Sanders can get pretty nasty himself, as many of his Senate colleagues can tell you, but even though he can fight fire with fire against Trump it doesn't mean that's the kind of image he wants to present to undecided voters in California and nationwide.

If the debate gets so nasty that it becomes an embarrassment on the level of some of the GOP debates earlier this year, the Clinton campaign could possibly get some traction by claiming it was staying above an unnecessary nasty fray all along. Sanders, by contrast, could come off looking like the Democratic Party home wrecker the Clinton forces have been portraying him to be for last month. But Mrs. Clinton and establishment Democrats and Republicans have been acutely tone deaf about the new and rising tolerance the voters and Fairfax Underground posters have had for nastiness in this new social media dominated world. It goes with the territory.

So what's in this for Trump? He already has the California primary sewn up, and he seems to be getting into a groove attacking Clinton. At the same time, he's been sending almost daily encouragement to Sanders' camp with comments about how the Democratic Party primary process is rigged against him. So why would Trump seemingly take his eye off the Clinton ball and simultaneously risk angering even the few Sanders voters who could potentially switch over to him or just stay home in the general election?

The answer is the exposure will be worth it, even for the overexposed Trump. Right now, Trump's #1 best goal is to prove to as many people as possible that he's not crazy. And a relatively cordial, yet lively, debate vs. fellow firebrand Sanders would go a long way toward accomplishing that goal. And each and every moment Trump and Sanders seem to be on the same page about Hillary Clinton's record or choreographed path to the Democratic nomination will be extremely helpful to the Trump camp. Trump's winning image as an outsider can only be enhanced by a sustained national TV appearance with fellow outsider Sanders.

The only unanswered question is how the Clinton camp will be able to stay out of this debate as the publicity and excitement over it grows. "The best thing Clinton campaign Chairman John Podesta could do is call everyone's bluff and get Hillary to show up to the debate after all, eliminating Trump from the podium. But the Clinton campaign has been about predictability for years now and no matter how disastrous the outcome, it's desperately sticking to the script.

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Re: Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Posted by: Trump and Bernie ()
Date: May 26, 2016 10:01PM

They are going to render her completely irrelevant and useless. Too bad for Bernie she's still going to get the nomination. It is already bought and paid for. Bernie should join Trump or go third party.

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Re: Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Posted by: Trump/Sanders 2016 ()
Date: May 26, 2016 10:03PM

Trump/Sanders 2016.

It's happening...

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Re: Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Posted by: Dirty Little Hands Donald ()
Date: May 26, 2016 10:08PM

Hillary will be getting good laughs out of a Sander Trump debate.

It will never happen. Trump will flip flop and say he's not going to debate. If does happen Sanders will destroy Trump.

The debate will like this

How should Iran be treated?

Trump: "Iran, Little Bernie, he looks so old. I don't want to call him old, but he looks old to me."

Sanders: "Iran has three agreements with the US, the first agreement is...."

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Re: Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Posted by: Hillary's homos ()
Date: May 26, 2016 10:11PM

Dirty Little Hands Donald Wrote:
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> Hillary will be getting good laughs out of a
> Sander Trump debate.
>
> It will never happen. Trump will flip flop and
> say he's not going to debate. If does happen
> Sanders will destroy Trump.
>
> The debate will like this
>
> How should Iran be treated?
>
> Trump: "Iran, Little Bernie, he looks so old. I
> don't want to call him old, but he looks old to
> me."
>
> Sanders: "Iran has three agreements with the US,
> the first agreement is...."
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Re: Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Posted by: 6LU ()
Date: May 26, 2016 10:26PM

Dirty Little Hands Donald Wrote:
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> Hillary will be getting good laughs out of a
> Sander Trump debate.
>
> It will never happen. Trump will flip flop and
> say he's not going to debate. If does happen
> Sanders will destroy Trump.
>
> The debate will like this
>
> How should Iran be treated?
>
> Trump: "Iran, Little Bernie, he looks so old. I
> don't want to call him old, but he looks old to
> me."
>
> Sanders: "Iran has three agreements with the US,
> the first agreement is...."


umm yeah... you understand bernie is mentally retarded, right? his goal in life is to turn this country into venezuela. spoiler alert - that would suck.

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Re: Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: May 26, 2016 10:29PM

Don't chicken out you punk bitch chickens.
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Re: Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Posted by: Hillary is So Nasty & Corrupt ()
Date: May 26, 2016 11:10PM

I know lots of Liberals that wont vote for her and actually like The Donald. People are tired of this illegal entry crap into the US, and the Donald will be good with a lot of things they like.

There going after this pig now, she broke the law, she "removed" the US Govt information to her own home against federal Law, You Govt people would hang for such shit, she needs to be busted and led to the good old Black federal car with white plastic Zip ties on her wrists.. Don't give me any shit.. you Libs are always ranting about No Ones Above the Law..Fucking hypocrites..Less it Hilary.. And the Donald.. Bitch your asses off about his taxes, every thing hes done IS LEGAL you lib shit heads.

DAJAX

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Re: Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Posted by: Can't stump the Trump ()
Date: May 26, 2016 11:15PM

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Re: Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Posted by: True the Vote! ()
Date: May 26, 2016 11:22PM

Trump could wipe out Bernie with a one liner, Hey Bernie, Go make me a sammich! Bernie is an old commie jew just like George Soros.

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Re: Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: May 26, 2016 11:42PM

Trump is scared.

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Re: Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Posted by: Sad, just Sad ()
Date: May 26, 2016 11:47PM

True the Vote! Wrote:
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> Trump could wipe out Bernie with a one liner, Hey
> Bernie, Go make me a sammich! Bernie is an old
> commie jew just like George Soros.

God, you are so painfully stupid. This is what you want in your President - someone as stupid as you. It just makes me sad that we've come to this.

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Re: Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Posted by: Yeah, I know ()
Date: May 26, 2016 11:55PM

Sad, just Sad Wrote:
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> True the Vote! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Trump could wipe out Bernie with a one liner,
> Hey
> > Bernie, Go make me a sammich! Bernie is an old
> > commie jew just like George Soros.
>
> God, you are so painfully stupid. This is what you
> want in your President - someone as stupid as you.
> It just makes me sad that we've come to this.

Yeah, it's hard to believe somebody would vote for Crooked Hillary.

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Re: Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare: Trump - Sanders hold debate without her
Posted by: True the Vote! ()
Date: May 27, 2016 12:11AM

Gerry is sad. Real Americans are happy. Cucks to be a Gerry now that eight years of commiefest is over

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