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I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: July 27, 2009 04:52AM
My ex-spouse told me that prior to sending his military folder up for consideration for promotion each time, he was allowed to remove one item from his official folder. He always had something bad in his, which he removed before his official folder was ever reviewed. I always thought this didn't make sense, and certainly did seem correct in the face of working in the government, who never destroy anything.
While he was a little LT. he was on-duty with a 45. Like we all know men do, show-off, he was parading around with it as if it were a toy. At least he did take the clip out, but forgot about the 1 in the chamber. Sam thinks he is aiming at a common wall to dry fire his new toy. As he pulls the trigger he goes off in a government office building at Camp Pendleton. The shot goes through the wall over the head of a marine who just happened to have his head lowered at his desk and into the following wall. Luckily no one was hurt and luckily the black marine had lowered his head at just the right time, or he would have died.
All Sam could do was laugh about it all and made lite of the black marine and how he looked when Sam ran into his office. Sam tells everyone he had white dust all over him due to the drywall, and his eyes were also big and white.
Nothing happened to the "Teflon Man", but something was written up about the stupid act and placed in his personal file. It was 1979 and he pulled the negative entry out of his file prior to it being sent out for promotion potential.
This was the first time he did it, that I was aware of, but afterwards he continued this routine, prior to each promotion board.
My question to you military peeps, is this legit, have you ever heard of this before?
He had very bad judgment, as there were tons of mishaps, like what I described above or worse. He busted the enlisted for having drugs and porn, which he kept and used. He had sex with the wives of the marines who worked under him, one came to the Officers Club to call Sam out, threatened Sam to stay away from his wife.
This happened a lot, at the time I didn't know what was going on, not now.
He used his position to force WMs to do what ever he wanted and I am told they did. There's so much more, but I don't want to bore you. But despite the bad person he is, he looked good on paper and got everything he wanted. He talked his way into the arms of several Commandants and Executive Officials to say the least, with his silver tongue and his nickname, "Teflon Man", he got what he wanted. The first Marine Barracks Commanding Officer was fired and Sam was his XO(Executive Officer), Sam had been passed over twice by that time for Col. Does anyone see a possible correlation, other then myself?
While he was a little LT. he was on-duty with a 45. Like we all know men do, show-off, he was parading around with it as if it were a toy. At least he did take the clip out, but forgot about the 1 in the chamber. Sam thinks he is aiming at a common wall to dry fire his new toy. As he pulls the trigger he goes off in a government office building at Camp Pendleton. The shot goes through the wall over the head of a marine who just happened to have his head lowered at his desk and into the following wall. Luckily no one was hurt and luckily the black marine had lowered his head at just the right time, or he would have died.
All Sam could do was laugh about it all and made lite of the black marine and how he looked when Sam ran into his office. Sam tells everyone he had white dust all over him due to the drywall, and his eyes were also big and white.
Nothing happened to the "Teflon Man", but something was written up about the stupid act and placed in his personal file. It was 1979 and he pulled the negative entry out of his file prior to it being sent out for promotion potential.
This was the first time he did it, that I was aware of, but afterwards he continued this routine, prior to each promotion board.
My question to you military peeps, is this legit, have you ever heard of this before?
He had very bad judgment, as there were tons of mishaps, like what I described above or worse. He busted the enlisted for having drugs and porn, which he kept and used. He had sex with the wives of the marines who worked under him, one came to the Officers Club to call Sam out, threatened Sam to stay away from his wife.
This happened a lot, at the time I didn't know what was going on, not now.
He used his position to force WMs to do what ever he wanted and I am told they did. There's so much more, but I don't want to bore you. But despite the bad person he is, he looked good on paper and got everything he wanted. He talked his way into the arms of several Commandants and Executive Officials to say the least, with his silver tongue and his nickname, "Teflon Man", he got what he wanted. The first Marine Barracks Commanding Officer was fired and Sam was his XO(Executive Officer), Sam had been passed over twice by that time for Col. Does anyone see a possible correlation, other then myself?
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
124C41
()
Date: July 27, 2009 06:28AM
Spunky, I don't think you would make this situation up, although it does sound a little far fetched. I've never heard that any Service would allow one item to be taken out of an official personnel record. The jacket is the summary of the composite soldier/officer and it is extremely difficult to even official remove information. I commend you for moving on with your life. It sounds like your ex was a real scumbag. I find it difficult to believe that the Marines would not recognize this officer's shortcomings and I suspect that in part they do and hence he'll not make O-6.
In my experience I reviewed my official security folder (yes, it can be done) and noted that I had died in Europe (auto accident) a year before I arrived in country (also, I was of another race). But the name was the same. When I pointed this item out to person allowing me to see the record, he immediately and literally ripped this page out! This is never suppose to happen to the security records, so I concede, anything is possible...
In my experience I reviewed my official security folder (yes, it can be done) and noted that I had died in Europe (auto accident) a year before I arrived in country (also, I was of another race). But the name was the same. When I pointed this item out to person allowing me to see the record, he immediately and literally ripped this page out! This is never suppose to happen to the security records, so I concede, anything is possible...
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
496
()
Date: July 27, 2009 08:48AM
I need that Spunky Zone utube STAT!
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
Schizophrenic in Fairfax
()
Date: July 27, 2009 10:01AM
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: July 27, 2009 12:15PM
124C41 Wrote:
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> Spunky, I don't think you would make this
> situation up, although it does sound a little far
> fetched. I've never heard that any Service would
> allow one item to be taken out of an official
> personnel record. The jacket is the summary of
> the composite soldier/officer and it is extremely
> difficult to even official remove information. I
> commend you for moving on with your life. It
> sounds like your ex was a real scumbag. I find it
> difficult to believe that the Marines would not
> recognize this officer's shortcomings and I
> suspect that in part they do and hence he'll not
> make O-6.
>
> In my experience I reviewed my official security
> folder (yes, it can be done) and noted that I had
> died in Europe (auto accident) a year before I
> arrived in country (also, I was of another race).
> But the name was the same. When I pointed this
> item out to person allowing me to see the record,
> he immediately and literally ripped this page out!
> This is never suppose to happen to the security
> records, so I concede, anything is possible...
Well whoever the hell you are, he did eventually make 06, in fact Gen, Jim Jones, the Commandant at the time, hand carried his folder to the promotion board. Did I mention how brown Sam's nose happens to be? He was passed over 3 times and I am sure there was a reason why. Only 8 marines are selected each year for Colonel, now that's slim pickins and some heavy competition.
Believe me all this is true and happened. It would not surprise me that he convinced a little enlisted female to do the deed, or he did it himself. He had it in his hands enough times and he even showed it to me. There are witnesses to the fact of what I shared, if that counts for anything.
I have moved on despite the pain he has put me through and continues too. How did I get so lucky? On my wedding day I was late to the church, about an hour, because my mama was trying her best to convince me to go to the airport instead. Mama's know best, I truly wish I had listened to her. Movin' on.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/27/2009 01:18PM by spunky.
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> Spunky, I don't think you would make this
> situation up, although it does sound a little far
> fetched. I've never heard that any Service would
> allow one item to be taken out of an official
> personnel record. The jacket is the summary of
> the composite soldier/officer and it is extremely
> difficult to even official remove information. I
> commend you for moving on with your life. It
> sounds like your ex was a real scumbag. I find it
> difficult to believe that the Marines would not
> recognize this officer's shortcomings and I
> suspect that in part they do and hence he'll not
> make O-6.
>
> In my experience I reviewed my official security
> folder (yes, it can be done) and noted that I had
> died in Europe (auto accident) a year before I
> arrived in country (also, I was of another race).
> But the name was the same. When I pointed this
> item out to person allowing me to see the record,
> he immediately and literally ripped this page out!
> This is never suppose to happen to the security
> records, so I concede, anything is possible...
Well whoever the hell you are, he did eventually make 06, in fact Gen, Jim Jones, the Commandant at the time, hand carried his folder to the promotion board. Did I mention how brown Sam's nose happens to be? He was passed over 3 times and I am sure there was a reason why. Only 8 marines are selected each year for Colonel, now that's slim pickins and some heavy competition.
Believe me all this is true and happened. It would not surprise me that he convinced a little enlisted female to do the deed, or he did it himself. He had it in his hands enough times and he even showed it to me. There are witnesses to the fact of what I shared, if that counts for anything.
I have moved on despite the pain he has put me through and continues too. How did I get so lucky? On my wedding day I was late to the church, about an hour, because my mama was trying her best to convince me to go to the airport instead. Mama's know best, I truly wish I had listened to her. Movin' on.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/27/2009 01:18PM by spunky.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: July 27, 2009 12:48PM
It's all true. My brother-in-law was in the Army and murdered a man in Basic Training. He was allowed to remove that entry every time he was promoted and eventually became a Master Sergeant...then he went ape shit and killed a bunch of people. Unfortunately for him, that came to two bad things in his folder and he was unable to remove both of them, so he retired from the military and went to work for the Post Office.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/27/2009 12:49PM by WashingTone-Locian.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/27/2009 12:49PM by WashingTone-Locian.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: July 27, 2009 01:25PM
WTL, there's something about that story that doesn't make sense. If your brother-in-law pulled the bad page out, then it's gone, until something else bad happens.
There should be a more permanent file in addition to one's folder, like medical records.
There should be a more permanent file in addition to one's folder, like medical records.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
Eastsider
()
Date: July 27, 2009 01:35PM
OK, this is ridiculous. I am forced to conclude that spunky is an EJ-like character who posts these stories just to get a rise out of people. "She's" been very convincing in the past, but this one was over the top.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: July 27, 2009 01:53PM
Eastsider Wrote:
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> OK, this is ridiculous. I am forced to conclude
> that spunky is an EJ-like character who posts
> these stories just to get a rise out of people.
> "She's" been very convincing in the past, but this
> one was over the top.
I'm glad people are finally catching on.
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
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> OK, this is ridiculous. I am forced to conclude
> that spunky is an EJ-like character who posts
> these stories just to get a rise out of people.
> "She's" been very convincing in the past, but this
> one was over the top.
I'm glad people are finally catching on.
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
lillen
()
Date: July 27, 2009 01:59PM
Maybe you should try Military message boards, like Leathernecks or Sgt. Grits Marine forums. I'm sure they'd be able to answer any question/concerns you have. Just a thought...
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
GCT
()
Date: July 27, 2009 02:09PM
User Profile : lillen
Email: Hidden
Posts: 5
Registered: 08/17/2005 08:46AM
Last Activity: 07/27/2009 01:59PM
What a prolific poster.
Email: Hidden
Posts: 5
Registered: 08/17/2005 08:46AM
Last Activity: 07/27/2009 01:59PM
What a prolific poster.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: July 27, 2009 02:17PM
lillen Wrote:
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> Maybe you should try Military message boards, like
> Leathernecks or Sgt. Grits Marine forums. I'm sure
> they'd be able to answer any question/concerns you
> have. Just a thought...
Thank you lillen, I appreciate the info.
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> Maybe you should try Military message boards, like
> Leathernecks or Sgt. Grits Marine forums. I'm sure
> they'd be able to answer any question/concerns you
> have. Just a thought...
Thank you lillen, I appreciate the info.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: July 27, 2009 02:24PM
Eastsider Wrote:
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> OK, this is ridiculous. I am forced to conclude
> that spunky is an EJ-like character who posts
> these stories just to get a rise out of people.
> "She's" been very convincing in the past, but this
> one was over the top.
This is true and I could care less what it does to people.
I can prove it and it gives insight into the horrible character my ex-spouse was
and continues to be. If this is not correct I plan to use it to my advantage.
Since this site is almost 99% men, I thought some would be prior military and
quick to answer my question.
It's not like you haven't wasted your time here reading worse crap time and time
again, and it's not even true. Everything I have shared is true.
Now grow a pair and shut-up!
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> OK, this is ridiculous. I am forced to conclude
> that spunky is an EJ-like character who posts
> these stories just to get a rise out of people.
> "She's" been very convincing in the past, but this
> one was over the top.
This is true and I could care less what it does to people.
I can prove it and it gives insight into the horrible character my ex-spouse was
and continues to be. If this is not correct I plan to use it to my advantage.
Since this site is almost 99% men, I thought some would be prior military and
quick to answer my question.
It's not like you haven't wasted your time here reading worse crap time and time
again, and it's not even true. Everything I have shared is true.
Now grow a pair and shut-up!
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: July 27, 2009 02:31PM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Eastsider Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OK, this is ridiculous. I am forced to
> conclude
> > that spunky is an EJ-like character who posts
> > these stories just to get a rise out of people.
>
> > "She's" been very convincing in the past, but
> this
> > one was over the top.
>
> I'm glad people are finally catching on.
Just because people caught onto you and your sad existence, doesn't mean everyone is hiding or trying to hide the truth from others like you. I speak the truth now, yesterday and I will again tomorrow. I believe in consistency and the truth. But someone who is void any character would have a difficult time wrapping their little mindless arms around that idea.
Now shut-up and move on nutless
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> Eastsider Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OK, this is ridiculous. I am forced to
> conclude
> > that spunky is an EJ-like character who posts
> > these stories just to get a rise out of people.
>
> > "She's" been very convincing in the past, but
> this
> > one was over the top.
>
> I'm glad people are finally catching on.
Just because people caught onto you and your sad existence, doesn't mean everyone is hiding or trying to hide the truth from others like you. I speak the truth now, yesterday and I will again tomorrow. I believe in consistency and the truth. But someone who is void any character would have a difficult time wrapping their little mindless arms around that idea.
Now shut-up and move on nutless
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: July 27, 2009 02:52PM
Truth is something that can be verified by anyone. You post things that a reasonable person would find hard to believe and call it truth. There is a huge difference.
I'm convinced you cannot be the person you portray yourself to be, and no longer have any doubt that the person posting as "Spunky" is making a lot of stuff up just to get a response.
You claim you saw a 9/11 hijacker at a US Military-sponsored event, and that every poster on here besides yourself is actually Elliot in the Morning. I almost feel embarrassed for thinking you could be a real person, and that I felt bad for you.
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
I'm convinced you cannot be the person you portray yourself to be, and no longer have any doubt that the person posting as "Spunky" is making a lot of stuff up just to get a response.
You claim you saw a 9/11 hijacker at a US Military-sponsored event, and that every poster on here besides yourself is actually Elliot in the Morning. I almost feel embarrassed for thinking you could be a real person, and that I felt bad for you.
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: July 27, 2009 03:05PM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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>
> I'm convinced you cannot be the person you portray
> yourself to be, and no longer have any doubt that
> the person posting as "Spunky" is making a lot of
> stuff up just to get a response.
>
I think Spunky is a rational 40-something gay man living in DuPont Circle. He has a boyfriend, Steve, and a cat named Cristal (Steve is black). He organizes AIDS Marches and AIDS Quilts, so he has time to comment on forums like these. He is actually drinking buddies with Flounder, and he and Flounder share these posts with Elliot.
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>
> I'm convinced you cannot be the person you portray
> yourself to be, and no longer have any doubt that
> the person posting as "Spunky" is making a lot of
> stuff up just to get a response.
>
I think Spunky is a rational 40-something gay man living in DuPont Circle. He has a boyfriend, Steve, and a cat named Cristal (Steve is black). He organizes AIDS Marches and AIDS Quilts, so he has time to comment on forums like these. He is actually drinking buddies with Flounder, and he and Flounder share these posts with Elliot.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: July 27, 2009 03:16PM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Truth is something that can be verified by anyone.
>
No it isn't. Example, God exists but can't be verified.
You post things that a reasonable person would
> find hard to believe and call it truth. There is
>
First off there's nothing reasonable about you, nor the other regs.
a huge difference.
>
Between you and reasonable people.
> I'm convinced you cannot be the person you portray
> yourself to be, and no longer have any doubt that
> the person posting as "Spunky" is making a lot of
> stuff up just to get a response.
That's not my problem, what you believe. I think it is pretty obvious
that I could care less about the responses. Perhaps this is what you do and your statement is just an introspective thought of yourself?
After all you are into shocking people, I operate on a higher intelligent level addressing the truth in meaningful issues, I know this seems foreign to you. Naturally.
>
> You claim you saw a 9/11 hijacker at a US
> Military-sponsored event, and that every poster on
>
No not everyone. But thanks to Durk I have the link now between this site and Elliot. You see I was right all along. I bet you've never had the opportunity to say such. You have the satisfaction of knowing, not once have you started a thread that was enlightening on any intelligent level. That alone qualifies you to be Elliot.
here besides yourself is actually Elliot in the
> Morning. I almost feel embarrassed for thinking
> you could be a real person, and that I felt bad
> for you.
That's OK, embarrassment is a permanent state of being for you, I'm sure you feel comfortable with it.
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> Truth is something that can be verified by anyone.
>
No it isn't. Example, God exists but can't be verified.
You post things that a reasonable person would
> find hard to believe and call it truth. There is
>
First off there's nothing reasonable about you, nor the other regs.
a huge difference.
>
Between you and reasonable people.
> I'm convinced you cannot be the person you portray
> yourself to be, and no longer have any doubt that
> the person posting as "Spunky" is making a lot of
> stuff up just to get a response.
That's not my problem, what you believe. I think it is pretty obvious
that I could care less about the responses. Perhaps this is what you do and your statement is just an introspective thought of yourself?
After all you are into shocking people, I operate on a higher intelligent level addressing the truth in meaningful issues, I know this seems foreign to you. Naturally.
>
> You claim you saw a 9/11 hijacker at a US
> Military-sponsored event, and that every poster on
>
No not everyone. But thanks to Durk I have the link now between this site and Elliot. You see I was right all along. I bet you've never had the opportunity to say such. You have the satisfaction of knowing, not once have you started a thread that was enlightening on any intelligent level. That alone qualifies you to be Elliot.
here besides yourself is actually Elliot in the
> Morning. I almost feel embarrassed for thinking
> you could be a real person, and that I felt bad
> for you.
That's OK, embarrassment is a permanent state of being for you, I'm sure you feel comfortable with it.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: July 27, 2009 03:28PM
spunky Wrote:
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> But thanks to Durk I have the
> link now between this site and Elliot. You see I
> was right all along.
Why don't you prove it or shut the fuck up?
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
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> But thanks to Durk I have the
> link now between this site and Elliot. You see I
> was right all along.
Why don't you prove it or shut the fuck up?
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: July 27, 2009 11:48PM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> spunky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > But thanks to Durk I have the
> > link now between this site and Elliot. You see
> I
> > was right all along.
>
> Why don't you prove it or shut the fuck up?
The proof is in Cary's thread on the Troll Manifesto. Do your own homework Dickhead.
But I would suggest you lawyer-up and circle the wagons.
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> spunky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > But thanks to Durk I have the
> > link now between this site and Elliot. You see
> I
> > was right all along.
>
> Why don't you prove it or shut the fuck up?
The proof is in Cary's thread on the Troll Manifesto. Do your own homework Dickhead.
But I would suggest you lawyer-up and circle the wagons.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
ThePackLeader
()
Date: July 28, 2009 02:26AM
spunky Wrote:
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> 124C41 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Spunky, I don't think you would make this
> > situation up, although it does sound a little
> far
> > fetched. I've never heard that any Service
> would
> > allow one item to be taken out of an official
> > personnel record. The jacket is the summary of
> > the composite soldier/officer and it is
> extremely
> > difficult to even official remove information.
> I
> > commend you for moving on with your life. It
> > sounds like your ex was a real scumbag. I find
> it
> > difficult to believe that the Marines would not
> > recognize this officer's shortcomings and I
> > suspect that in part they do and hence he'll
> not
> > make O-6.
> >
> > In my experience I reviewed my official
> security
> > folder (yes, it can be done) and noted that I
> had
> > died in Europe (auto accident) a year before I
> > arrived in country (also, I was of another
> race).
> > But the name was the same. When I pointed this
> > item out to person allowing me to see the
> record,
> > he immediately and literally ripped this page
> out!
> > This is never suppose to happen to the
> security
> > records, so I concede, anything is possible...
>
>
> Well whoever the hell you are, he did eventually
> make 06, in fact Gen, Jim Jones, the Commandant at
> the time, hand carried his folder to the promotion
> board. Did I mention how brown Sam's nose happens
> to be? He was passed over 3 times and I am sure
> there was a reason why. Only 8 marines are
> selected each year for Colonel, now that's slim
> pickins and some heavy competition.
That cannot be possible, as there are currently 622 Colonels serving in the USMC. If that was at a rate of only Eight per Year, then those still active would have to stretch back promotion wise to 78 Years Ago. That number is probably far closer to roughly 100 USMC Colonels selected annually.
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> 124C41 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Spunky, I don't think you would make this
> > situation up, although it does sound a little
> far
> > fetched. I've never heard that any Service
> would
> > allow one item to be taken out of an official
> > personnel record. The jacket is the summary of
> > the composite soldier/officer and it is
> extremely
> > difficult to even official remove information.
> I
> > commend you for moving on with your life. It
> > sounds like your ex was a real scumbag. I find
> it
> > difficult to believe that the Marines would not
> > recognize this officer's shortcomings and I
> > suspect that in part they do and hence he'll
> not
> > make O-6.
> >
> > In my experience I reviewed my official
> security
> > folder (yes, it can be done) and noted that I
> had
> > died in Europe (auto accident) a year before I
> > arrived in country (also, I was of another
> race).
> > But the name was the same. When I pointed this
> > item out to person allowing me to see the
> record,
> > he immediately and literally ripped this page
> out!
> > This is never suppose to happen to the
> security
> > records, so I concede, anything is possible...
>
>
> Well whoever the hell you are, he did eventually
> make 06, in fact Gen, Jim Jones, the Commandant at
> the time, hand carried his folder to the promotion
> board. Did I mention how brown Sam's nose happens
> to be? He was passed over 3 times and I am sure
> there was a reason why. Only 8 marines are
> selected each year for Colonel, now that's slim
> pickins and some heavy competition.
That cannot be possible, as there are currently 622 Colonels serving in the USMC. If that was at a rate of only Eight per Year, then those still active would have to stretch back promotion wise to 78 Years Ago. That number is probably far closer to roughly 100 USMC Colonels selected annually.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: July 28, 2009 02:55AM
ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> spunky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 124C41 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Spunky, I don't think you would make this
> > > situation up, although it does sound a little
> > far
> > > fetched. I've never heard that any Service
> > would
> > > allow one item to be taken out of an official
> > > personnel record. The jacket is the summary
> of
> > > the composite soldier/officer and it is
> > extremely
> > > difficult to even official remove information.
>
> > I
> > > commend you for moving on with your life. It
> > > sounds like your ex was a real scumbag. I
> find
> > it
> > > difficult to believe that the Marines would
> not
> > > recognize this officer's shortcomings and I
> > > suspect that in part they do and hence he'll
> > not
> > > make O-6.
> > >
> > > In my experience I reviewed my official
> > security
> > > folder (yes, it can be done) and noted that I
> > had
> > > died in Europe (auto accident) a year before
> I
> > > arrived in country (also, I was of another
> > race).
> > > But the name was the same. When I pointed
> this
> > > item out to person allowing me to see the
> > record,
> > > he immediately and literally ripped this page
> > out!
> > > This is never suppose to happen to the
> > security
> > > records, so I concede, anything is
> possible...
> >
> >
> > Well whoever the hell you are, he did
> eventually
> > make 06, in fact Gen, Jim Jones, the Commandant
> at
> > the time, hand carried his folder to the
> promotion
> > board. Did I mention how brown Sam's nose
> happens
> > to be? He was passed over 3 times and I am
> sure
> > there was a reason why. Only 8 marines are
> > selected each year for Colonel, now that's slim
> > pickins and some heavy competition.
>
> That cannot be possible, as there are currently
> 622 Colonels serving in the USMC. If that was at a
> rate of only Eight per Year, then those still
> active would have to stretch back promotion wise
> to 78 Years Ago. That number is probably far
> closer to roughly 100 USMC Colonels selected
> annually.
No Packleader, we are talking active duty here and it's easier to make rank as reserves. This does not include Lt. Cols either, follow-up on your research, it needs tweaking. Facts are facts :)
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> spunky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 124C41 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Spunky, I don't think you would make this
> > > situation up, although it does sound a little
> > far
> > > fetched. I've never heard that any Service
> > would
> > > allow one item to be taken out of an official
> > > personnel record. The jacket is the summary
> of
> > > the composite soldier/officer and it is
> > extremely
> > > difficult to even official remove information.
>
> > I
> > > commend you for moving on with your life. It
> > > sounds like your ex was a real scumbag. I
> find
> > it
> > > difficult to believe that the Marines would
> not
> > > recognize this officer's shortcomings and I
> > > suspect that in part they do and hence he'll
> > not
> > > make O-6.
> > >
> > > In my experience I reviewed my official
> > security
> > > folder (yes, it can be done) and noted that I
> > had
> > > died in Europe (auto accident) a year before
> I
> > > arrived in country (also, I was of another
> > race).
> > > But the name was the same. When I pointed
> this
> > > item out to person allowing me to see the
> > record,
> > > he immediately and literally ripped this page
> > out!
> > > This is never suppose to happen to the
> > security
> > > records, so I concede, anything is
> possible...
> >
> >
> > Well whoever the hell you are, he did
> eventually
> > make 06, in fact Gen, Jim Jones, the Commandant
> at
> > the time, hand carried his folder to the
> promotion
> > board. Did I mention how brown Sam's nose
> happens
> > to be? He was passed over 3 times and I am
> sure
> > there was a reason why. Only 8 marines are
> > selected each year for Colonel, now that's slim
> > pickins and some heavy competition.
>
> That cannot be possible, as there are currently
> 622 Colonels serving in the USMC. If that was at a
> rate of only Eight per Year, then those still
> active would have to stretch back promotion wise
> to 78 Years Ago. That number is probably far
> closer to roughly 100 USMC Colonels selected
> annually.
No Packleader, we are talking active duty here and it's easier to make rank as reserves. This does not include Lt. Cols either, follow-up on your research, it needs tweaking. Facts are facts :)
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: July 28, 2009 11:00PM
Packleader you're off the charts. The USMC active duty doesn't have enough LtCols
to promote a 100 a year, you pulled that number out of your ass, and shit out your brains. Munch on that for awhile. :p
to promote a 100 a year, you pulled that number out of your ass, and shit out your brains. Munch on that for awhile. :p
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
un-fairfax aboveground
()
Date: July 29, 2009 02:34AM
wow spunky do you really believe all the crazy shit you make up in your head? its like you're having a life long acid trip.
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Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
Thurston Moore
()
Date: July 29, 2009 03:15AM
ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> That cannot be possible, as there are currently
> 622 Colonels serving in the USMC. If that was at a
> rate of only Eight per Year, then those still
> active would have to stretch back promotion wise
> to 78 Years Ago. That number is probably far
> closer to roughly 100 USMC Colonels selected
> annually.
More likely 200 per year.
Figure that, most Colonels are at their 14th or 15th year, at best, and most likely 17th or 18th year of service when they become colonels.
They can retire at 50% salary at 20 years, no matter what rank they achieve.
Very few reach general officer level, that's for sure. But there are hundreds of colonels. In the army, there are probably several thousand colonels at any given time, possibly even thousands promoted each year.
She might be confusing colonel with general officer. 06 is still just an "officer", any rank above O6 is appointed by the president and is considered "general officer", and is few and highly selective.
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> That cannot be possible, as there are currently
> 622 Colonels serving in the USMC. If that was at a
> rate of only Eight per Year, then those still
> active would have to stretch back promotion wise
> to 78 Years Ago. That number is probably far
> closer to roughly 100 USMC Colonels selected
> annually.
More likely 200 per year.
Figure that, most Colonels are at their 14th or 15th year, at best, and most likely 17th or 18th year of service when they become colonels.
They can retire at 50% salary at 20 years, no matter what rank they achieve.
Very few reach general officer level, that's for sure. But there are hundreds of colonels. In the army, there are probably several thousand colonels at any given time, possibly even thousands promoted each year.
She might be confusing colonel with general officer. 06 is still just an "officer", any rank above O6 is appointed by the president and is considered "general officer", and is few and highly selective.
Re: I appeal to those in the military to consider my question here.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: July 29, 2009 05:15AM
Moore or less?
Let me say this one more time. There are only 8 Colonels, not Little Colonels
selected in the USMC per selection board. There's no comparison between the Army and the Marines in people. The USMC is the smallest force and get fewer DOLLARS!
I spent 27 yrs associated to the service of the Corps and it was in my best interest to get his sorry ass promoted, so I sure as hell ought to know.
Your guessing is pitiful and makes you look stupid as well as show you don't know shit about the military. Now put that in your vaporizer and smoke it!
Let me say this one more time. There are only 8 Colonels, not Little Colonels
selected in the USMC per selection board. There's no comparison between the Army and the Marines in people. The USMC is the smallest force and get fewer DOLLARS!
I spent 27 yrs associated to the service of the Corps and it was in my best interest to get his sorry ass promoted, so I sure as hell ought to know.
Your guessing is pitiful and makes you look stupid as well as show you don't know shit about the military. Now put that in your vaporizer and smoke it!