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> Actually, the woman I fuck is highly intelligent.
>
>
> I'd never do that to a retard. Unless she was
> hot.


And so is that bullshit response.

Jesus Horace Christ and your lack of comprehension!

They should have said, "Sir, we're sorry, but it is our policy to ask for identification when investigating break-ins. Now that we have verified your identity, we apologize for the inconvenience." Then they should have left.

That's it. No time for warnings or threats.

§ Wrote:
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> Jesus Horace Christ and your lack of
> comprehension!
>
> They should have said, "Sir, we're sorry, but it
> is our policy to ask for identification when
> investigating break-ins. Now that we have
> verified your identity, we apologize for the
> inconvenience." Then they should have left.
>
> That's it. No time for warnings or threats.

And Gates should've kept his mouth shut instead of playing the race card like your boy Al Sharpton. Fucking ignorant.

§ Wrote:
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> Jesus Horace Christ and your lack of
> comprehension!
>
> They should have said, "Sir, we're sorry, but it
> is our policy to ask for identification when
> investigating break-ins. Now that we have
> verified your identity, we apologize for the
> inconvenience." Then they should have left.
>
> That's it. No time for warnings or threats.


yes
identification with a home address
not a library card
thanks for trying though!

It doesn't really matter. The charges were dropped, so all ended quite well for everyone.

Gates gets off and possibly a book deal and the cop gets a paid adminstrative leave vacation along with a visit on Bill O'Reeeally's show.

So, in summary, move on to something more constructive like the birth certificate challenge or how you don't want your bosses taxes to go up due to health care reform.

obama sed "My sense is you've got two good people in a circumstance in which neither of them were able to resolve the incident in the way that it should have been resolved and the way they would have liked it to be resolved.""

yeah gates shukld have shut de fuckin fuck up and stoppd shoutin at cops i wuldnt share a beer with dat crzy fuck hed probbly sey teh beer tastd bad becuse he was black

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I'd share a beer with him, but would have to drink twice as much as he does in order to keep up with all the intellectual speak and philosophical insights.

Drinking makes things more interesting.

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You and your quips motherfucker! HA! Jizz rolling down my nose because the proz's don't need my sperm!

Alias Wrote:
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> How long has Gates been renting this house?

The country acted stupidly by putting this buffoon in the White House.

And you acted stupidly for just being yourself.

Race Card Wrote:
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> § Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jesus Horace Christ and your lack of
> > comprehension!
> >
> > They should have said, "Sir, we're sorry, but
> it
> > is our policy to ask for identification when
> > investigating break-ins. Now that we have
> > verified your identity, we apologize for the
> > inconvenience." Then they should have left.
> >
> > That's it. No time for warnings or threats.
>
> And Gates should've kept his mouth shut instead of
> playing the race card like your boy Al Sharpton.
> Fucking ignorant.


Lets see...sitting in your home minding your own business...cops come in..start giving you a hard time! Who has the "right" to be upset?

AGAIN...in VA..if a black cop was doing the same thing in a white owned house...you'd all be defending the home owner if he shot the cop!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

The war in Iraq, economy in recession, automotoive plants closing and the news is about some thing the President said in passing. What a waste of time.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Lets see...sitting in your home minding your own
> business...cops come in..start giving you a hard
> time! Who has the "right" to be upset?

How is it giving someone a hard time to say, "I'm responding to a report of a burglary, and would like to verify that you're the resident?" Like someone else said, if a dude had been behind the door with a gun in Gates's back and the cop just turned and walked away, everyone would bitch that the cop didn't help Gates out because he was black.

The only thing Gates can accomplish is making cops more reluctant to investigate thoroughly for fear of racial backlash. The safest time to rob Gates's house is RIGHT NOW, because I seriously doubt the cops would go back out there again.

The only people making this a race issue are the black people.

> AGAIN...in VA..if a black cop was doing the same
> thing in a white owned house...you'd all be
> defending the home owner if he shot the cop!

I don't like cops; black, white, red, brown, green, or periwinkle blue, doesn't matter. However, this one was just doing his job, and the whole thing would have been over in two minutes if Gates had just shown his ID. If he has nothing to hide, then why the reluctance, especially if it's to ensure HIS OWN PERSONAL SAFETY?

If you want to improve race relations in this country, take all of the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons and Henry Gates and throw them off a cliff. I find it deeply offensive that I have to feel bad about being white because of some fucked up shit perpetrated by people I didn't know hundreds of years ago. You're allowed to have black and latino and female pride, but the white man these days is expected to kiss everyone's ass for something he didn't even do.

There's not a single white man left in America that has ever legally owned a black person as a slave. This is the year 2009. Get over it.

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Well said.

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Being vague is almost as fun as that other thing.

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lets see...sitting in your home minding your
> own
> > business...cops come in..start giving you a
> hard
> > time! Who has the "right" to be upset?
>
> How is it giving someone a hard time to say, "I'm
> responding to a report of a burglary, and would
> like to verify that you're the resident?" Like
> someone else said, if a dude had been behind the
> door with a gun in Gates's back and the cop just
> turned and walked away, everyone would bitch that
> the cop didn't help Gates out because he was
> black.
>
> The only thing Gates can accomplish is making cops
> more reluctant to investigate thoroughly for fear
> of racial backlash. The safest time to rob
> Gates's house is RIGHT NOW, because I seriously
> doubt the cops would go back out there again.
>
> The only people making this a race issue are the
> black people.
>
> > AGAIN...in VA..if a black cop was doing the
> same
> > thing in a white owned house...you'd all be
> > defending the home owner if he shot the cop!
>
> I don't like cops; black, white, red, brown,
> green, or periwinkle blue, doesn't matter.
> However, this one was just doing his job, and the
> whole thing would have been over in two minutes if
> Gates had just shown his ID. If he has nothing to
> hide, then why the reluctance, especially if it's
> to ensure HIS OWN PERSONAL SAFETY?

Perhaps he was tired...irritable...and lost it! So what..the police officer should have realized this and just left as soon as possible.
>
> If you want to improve race relations in this
> country, take all of the Jesse Jacksons and Al
> Sharptons and Henry Gates and throw them off a
> cliff. I find it deeply offensive that I have to
> feel bad about being white because of some fucked
> up shit perpetrated by people I didn't know
> hundreds of years ago. You're allowed to have
> black and latino and female pride, but the white
> man these days is expected to kiss everyone's ass
> for something he didn't even do.

If it's too hard for you to think..to empathise...perhaps it is time for you leave society.
>
> There's not a single white man left in America
> that has ever legally owned a black person as a
> slave. This is the year 2009. Get over it.

All of us benifit every day from the suffering and hard work of those who went before us....Some suffered more then others! Get over that!

And by the way..it's not as if injustice to blacks ended with the end of slavery...there ws an additional 100 years of Jim Crowe...aparteid...and today there are still many inequalities. So...think before you speak and stop being such an uneducated white male.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

Vince on injustice...

lol
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Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Vince on injustice...
>
> lol

wow who can refute that animated logic! Youre right..Jim Crowe, lynchings..seperate but equal...white flight...never did happen!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
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> -----
> > Vince on injustice...
> >
> > lol
>
> wow who can refute that animated logic! Youre
> right..Jim Crowe, lynchings..seperate but
> equal...white flight...never did happen!

I didn't do any of that. I don't know of anyone that has. I am especially not friends with anyone that has. I do not condone discrimination in any form. I don't owe black people anything.

If I'm to be held accountable for slavery and discrimination, I may as well be held accountable for the Holocaust and the Egyptian enslavement of the Jews. I guess I'm also responsible for the exploitation of the Native Americans, the imprisonment of Japanese Americans during WWII, apartheid in Africa, and the secession of the Confederate states during the civil war. All because I had the misfortune of being born a white man.

Vince, you are a racist. You judge not on the quality of someone's character, but by the color of their skin. You have the balls to call me an uneducated white male, but your idea of "equality" is "getting back at whitey."

If you don't think you or this Henry Gates asshole is a racist, tell me; do you think things would have happened differently if a black cop had responded to the call instead of a white cop?

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When the cop slapped handcuffs on Gates it sends a message. "We can order you around, deprive you of your freedom and subject you to our will and shut you up anytime we (the police) want, you are NOTHING" Thats the crux of the problem. Gates let his emotions get the better of him yes, but he was not threatening the officer. Crowley just decided to, "teach this uppity nigger a lesson" and teach him what Malcolm X once said, "what do you call a black man with a PHD? a nigger"

Cops walk into your house slap handcuff's on you and take you to jail for no reason. Sounds like the makings of a good lawsuit.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vince(1) Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Lets see...sitting in your home minding your
> > own
> > > business...cops come in..start giving you a
> > hard
> > > time! Who has the "right" to be upset?
> >
> > How is it giving someone a hard time to say,
> "I'm
> > responding to a report of a burglary, and would
> > like to verify that you're the resident?" Like
> > someone else said, if a dude had been behind
> the
> > door with a gun in Gates's back and the cop
> just
> > turned and walked away, everyone would bitch
> that
> > the cop didn't help Gates out because he was
> > black.
> >
> > The only thing Gates can accomplish is making
> cops
> > more reluctant to investigate thoroughly for
> fear
> > of racial backlash. The safest time to rob
> > Gates's house is RIGHT NOW, because I seriously
> > doubt the cops would go back out there again.
> >
> > The only people making this a race issue are
> the
> > black people.
> >
> > > AGAIN...in VA..if a black cop was doing the
> > same
> > > thing in a white owned house...you'd all be
> > > defending the home owner if he shot the cop!
> >
> > I don't like cops; black, white, red, brown,
> > green, or periwinkle blue, doesn't matter.
> > However, this one was just doing his job, and
> the
> > whole thing would have been over in two minutes
> if
> > Gates had just shown his ID. If he has nothing
> to
> > hide, then why the reluctance, especially if
> it's
> > to ensure HIS OWN PERSONAL SAFETY?
>
> Perhaps he was tired...irritable...and lost it!
> So what..the police officer should have realized
> this and just left as soon as possible.
> >
> > If you want to improve race relations in this
> > country, take all of the Jesse Jacksons and Al
> > Sharptons and Henry Gates and throw them off a
> > cliff. I find it deeply offensive that I have
> to
> > feel bad about being white because of some
> fucked
> > up shit perpetrated by people I didn't know
> > hundreds of years ago. You're allowed to have
> > black and latino and female pride, but the
> white
> > man these days is expected to kiss everyone's
> ass
> > for something he didn't even do.
>
> If it's too hard for you to think..to
> empathise...perhaps it is time for you leave
> society.
> >
> > There's not a single white man left in America
> > that has ever legally owned a black person as a
> > slave. This is the year 2009. Get over it.
>
> All of us benifit every day from the suffering and
> hard work of those who went before us....Some
> suffered more then others! Get over that!
>
> And by the way..it's not as if injustice to blacks
> ended with the end of slavery...there ws an
> additional 100 years of Jim Crowe...aparteid...and
> today there are still many inequalities.
> So...think before you speak and stop being such an
> uneducated white male.

Chubby Rain Wrote:
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> When the cop slapped handcuffs on Gates it sends a
> message. "We can order you around, deprive you of
> your freedom and subject you to our will and shut
> you up anytime we (the police) want, you are
> NOTHING" Thats the crux of the problem. Gates
> let his emotions get the better of him yes, but he
> was not threatening the officer. Crowley just
> decided to, "teach this uppity nigger a lesson"
> and teach him what Malcolm X once said, "what do
> you call a black man with a PHD? a nigger"

Sounds like you're a member of Vince's "Fuck Reality" club.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Chubby Rain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When the cop slapped handcuffs on Gates it sends
> a
> > message. "We can order you around, deprive you
> of
> > your freedom and subject you to our will and
> shut
> > you up anytime we (the police) want, you are
> > NOTHING" Thats the crux of the problem. Gates
> > let his emotions get the better of him yes, but
> he
> > was not threatening the officer. Crowley just
> > decided to, "teach this uppity nigger a lesson"
> > and teach him what Malcolm X once said, "what
> do
> > you call a black man with a PHD? a nigger"
>
> Sounds like you're a member of Vince's "Fuck
> Reality" club.

Chubby Rain is Vince.

LandOlakes Wrote:
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> Chubby Rain is Vince.

Nah... Chubby Rain writes too good.

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Chubby Rain Wrote:
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> When the cop slapped handcuffs on Gates it sends a
> message. "We can order you around, deprive you of
> your freedom and subject you to our will and shut
> you up anytime we (the police) want, you are
> NOTHING" Thats the crux of the problem. Gates
> let his emotions get the better of him yes, but he
> was not threatening the officer. Crowley just
> decided to, "teach this uppity nigger a lesson"
> and teach him what Malcolm X once said, "what do
> you call a black man with a PHD? a nigger"

What's a dumb ass white guy that yells at a police officer and doesn't listen when he is warned to calm down 2 or 3 times? An arrested, dumb ass white guy. No shit.

The crux of the problem, honestly, is that some black people need to get over themselves and join the rest of the human race. Note I said "some". You have folks that keep pounding the drums on how bad it was in the past, you will never get past that. "Whitey" figured out what an asshole he was a long time ago, now it is time for the black people to recognize that in themselves and we can move past all this race baiting BS. IMHO.

It's not like I'm one of those people who find it impossible to agree with the President when I think he's right about something. For instance I thought he looked just fine in his Levis at the All Star game.

But doesn't he have any friends who aren't arrogant windbags? First Bill Ayers. Now Professor Gates. For the love of God Mr. Obama please dig yourself out of this hole before you find yourself haging out with Vince!

Maybe this will change your mind about those jeans
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Libertarian1 Wrote:
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>> But doesn't he have any friends who aren't
> arrogant windbags? First Bill Ayers. Now
> Professor Gates. For the love of God Mr. Obama
> please dig yourself out of this hole before you
> find yourself haging out with Vince!

This is just Republicans trying to stir up the media and distract the public from Obama's accomplishments. An old Republican slam game.

Trap Wrote:
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>
> This is just Republicans trying to stir up the
> media and distract the public from Obama's
> accomplishments. An old Republican slam game.

Yes, that is why at Obama's carefully scripted press conference, he made a point of having this reporter ask a question about the issue. The MEDIA is playing this up - you really should ask yourself why. It certainly isn't in the republicans interest to keep the focus on this issue - they were having a field day pounding him on the health care bill and cap and trade.

Better and better. Really - this has turned into such a load of BS...

Gates says it's time to 'move on' from his arrest
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090726/D99LQDSG0.html

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BOSTON (AP) - Black Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. says he's ready to move on from his arrest by a white police officer, hoping to use the encounter to improve fairness in the criminal justice system and saying "in the end, this is not about me at all."

After a phone call from President Barack Obama urging calm in the aftermath of his arrest last week, Gates said he would accept Obama's invitation to the White House for a beer with him and Cambridge police Sgt. James Crowley.

In a statement posted Friday on The Root, a Web site Gates oversees, the scholar said he told Obama he'd be happy to meet with Crowley, whom Gates had accused of racial profiling.

"I told the president that my principal regret was that all of the attention paid to his deeply supportive remarks during his press conference had distracted attention from his health care initiative," Gates said. "I am pleased that he, too, is eager to use my experience as a teaching moment, and if meeting Sergeant Crowley for a beer with the president will further that end, then I would be happy to oblige."
...

He sounds like Obama on health care - "...this is not about me at all." No one can apologize about anything anymore, all they can do is "regret" that someone took their statements badly or focused on them in the wrong way. *puke*

LOL

Prof. Gates Tells His Side of the Story, Chastises Policeman
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20090721_gates_tells_his_side_of_the_story_chastises_cambridge_officer/

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...
“I believe the police officer should apologize to me for what he knows he did that was wrong,” Gates said in a phone interview from his other home in Martha’s Vineyard. “If he apologizes sincerely, I am willing to forgive him. And if he admits his error, I am willing to educate him about the history of racism in America and the issue of racial profiling ... That’s what I do for a living.”
...

I suppose after they have a couple of beers that would be a good time for the apologies to roll.

Gates, the Police officer and Obama all had dinner together tonight at thw White House. I'm glad we all jumped on this issue so quickly. This has been a very improtant step forward for the US.

And the result...
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Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Better and better. Really - this has turned into
> such a load of BS...

> He sounds like Obama on health care - "...this is
> not about me at all." No one can apologize about
> anything anymore, all they can do is "regret" that
> someone took their statements badly or focused on
> them in the wrong way. *puke*


You're having yourself quite the lil post-a-thon on this one, huh, RV? LOL

Imagine the FOX NEWS scroll: "Obama APOLOGIZES...says he was WRONG....WHEN WILL HE RESIGN??"

That would make your belly shake with mirth and your jowls flap happily in your oatmeal, huh?

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You totally don't get me.

I don't want Obama to resign, I don't want him impeached. He is the President now, he has his own 4 year window to sink or swim. Pelosi and Reid (go back and look through my posts if you care to) are the ones to be afraid of IMHO. Obama can only sign the bills they send him.

No, I think Obama calculated on changing the subject a bit at his press conference by using this issue. Again - they are just now starting to seriously cover health care again - the Gates thing is still being discussed today by the news and the talk shows. Any attention he can do to take the public's attention away from the health care debate is good for him in this case - plus the race issue (was intended to) put him in a favorable light and got him support from his base. He needed to get them fired up right? Just look at Vince.

It went a bit further than he planned on - or maybe not. I think the fact that he didn't step out as soon as he saw the issue was blowing up and say "hey, I probably shouldn't have stepped into that without knowing more about it - let me just say sorry to the officer and Cambridge police.." etc. shows that either he was too proud to know when he stepped in it, or calculating how far he could go to keep the issue going but slowly defuse it. I am betting on the latter. He is not so stupid to know he made a mistake. You could say Bush might have missed the signs, I think we will all agree Obama is smarter than that. But he would count on the majority of the sheeple out there to never understand it.

I agree 100% that this is a "teachable moment." It's a teachable moment for Obama.

Note to POTUS...stay out of shit that you have no say or control over.

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> You totally don't get me.
>
> I don't want Obama to resign, I don't want him
> impeached. He is the President now, he has his own
> 4 year window to sink or swim. Pelosi and Reid (go
> back and look through my posts if you care to) are
> the ones to be afraid of IMHO. Obama can only sign
> the bills they send him.
>
> No, I think Obama calculated on changing the
> subject a bit at his press conference by using
> this issue. Again - they are just now starting to
> seriously cover health care again - the Gates
> thing is still being discussed today by the news
> and the talk shows. Any attention he can do to
> take the public's attention away from the health
> care debate is good for him in this case - plus
> the race issue (was intended to) put him in a
> favorable light and got him support from his base.
> He needed to get them fired up right? Just look at
> Vince.
>
> It went a bit further than he planned on - or
> maybe not. I think the fact that he didn't step
> out as soon as he saw the issue was blowing up and
> say "hey, I probably shouldn't have stepped into
> that without knowing more about it - let me just
> say sorry to the officer and Cambridge police.."
> etc. shows that either he was too proud to know
> when he stepped in it, or calculating how far he
> could go to keep the issue going but slowly defuse
> it. I am betting on the latter. He is not so
> stupid to know he made a mistake. You could say
> Bush might have missed the signs, I think we will
> all agree Obama is smarter than that. But he would
> count on the majority of the sheeple out there to
> never understand it.


Well..a typical and ridiculous analysis. Obama has nothing to gain in taking the attention off health care..any delay is an opoortunity for the status quo supporters to scare people. A quick and bi-partisan bill is what he wants. Needless to say he isnt getting what he wants at the moment.

Obama's comments were a moment of truth. The truth is something most of us cant take...the truth..African and Hispanic men face daily and constant harassment from the law enforcement and judicial systems. 33% of the adult black males are in jail for crimes and punishment targeted at the minority community.

A small example of how the Cambridge Polic eOfficer is twiting the facts to make Mr Gates look bad. He..the officer complained that Gates insulted his mother during their verbal banter. You know what gates did? He called the police officer a son of a bitch! The police officers description of that comment is as truthful as any of your comments. Accurate...but so off the mark as to make it a purposeful twisitng of the truth...a Lie! As you sir are...a liar!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

Mmmm.... insightful as usual Vince.

We have already established that you believe I am a liar. Try to come up with something more substantial than that. As much as I probably bore people here to death :) I don't think anyone else here believes I am a liar. Get off your prejudiced and racial high horse and listen to yourself sometime. Stand in front of the mirror and repeat aloud to the mirror what you say here - maybe then you will see how you come across. I doubt it will be a flattering moment for you.

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Have you ever been accidentally locked out of your house and tried to break in, or, maybe you have been locked out of your car. I have, and on more than one occasion, but never has a neighbor called the cops on me. Maybe it has something to do with me being a “white man” and as white guys go, we do not commit crimes. I am being sarcastic in case anybody is wondering, but do not mistake that sarcasm as me disagreeing with what down in Cambridge, Massachusetts with Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., a personal friend of President Barack Obama.

Mr. Gates should have been a little more co-operative with Sgt. James Crowley, a man President Obama described as an “outstanding police officer”, and had Mr. Gates been more co-operative I highly doubt this story would be making headlines in the U.S.

I heard that it was Mr. Gates who played the “race card” when Sgt. Crowley approached him and explained why he was there. And I have also heard that Mr. Gates didn’t show the officer the respect he deserved.

Hmm, why is nobody jumping all over Mr. Gates for his behaviour that is what I would like to know? Is it because he is black and an esteemed member of society, that he isn’t being held accountable for his actions? I certainly think so, but I’m just a white guy who has never been an afforded an opportunity to play the race card when challenged by authority, so what credibility do I have when it comes to such matters.

The other thing that pisses me off about this story is that President Obama weighed in with his two-cents worth when like me; he doesn’t know all the facts about this particular case. In my opinion, he is exploiting Mr. Gates’ arrest for his own personal gain among blacks, hoping to gain more support for himself when Americans go to the polls in 2012. He should have just kept his mouth shut as far as I’m concerned. There was no need for him to involve himself in another black man’s racism woes, and to call the officer stupid, well that was just stupid Mr. President.

President Obama has more important things to concern himself with than defending a personal friend who, had it not been for his mouth and his obvious lack of respect for a police officer just doing his job, Mr. Gates wouldn’t have been arrested in the first place.

He was made the fool by being forced to apologize and make amends with the cop. He lost this battle.

Vince, what would be the response if a white President called a black cop stupid?

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Yeah, I don't think anyone has apologized yet as far as I know of. Did I miss something? Other than folks saying it was "regrettable" that people got so upset over the issue and how Obama characterized it.

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Yeah, I don't think anyone has apologized yet as
> far as I know of. Did I miss something? Other than
> folks saying it was "regrettable" that people got
> so upset over the issue and how Obama
> characterized it.

While the President did not issue an explicit "I'm sorry," his action of going out of his way to the routine press brifing to issue his mea culpa of "regretting his choice of words," is by its very nature an admission of defeat.

crow eater Wrote:
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> He was made the fool by being forced to apologize
> and make amends with the cop. He lost this
> battle.
>
> Vince, what would be the response if a white
> President called a black cop stupid?
>
> .
> moar funny pictures


Ive heard cops called worse then that on here...by just about all of you! Personally I am tired of all the phony outrage associated with this event. It is no wonder all we get on the news is is 7 second sound bites...everyone has to be afraid of saying anything. The fact is..it is stupid that a man gets arrested for being in his own home...the entire situation was handled wrong...by Prof Gates and the officer (IMHO). However, the police as the intruding force in this circumstance should have just extricated themselves as quickly as possible to defuse the "race riot" they were so concerned about.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

No - all he regretted was that the Media had taken off with what he said and made a big deal out of it. That had nothing to do with his absolutely stupid choice to respond to the issue in question and make the statement he did.


http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/07/26/aide-says-obamas-expression-of-regret-is-having-desired-effect/

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...
On Friday, Obama told reporters he should have “calibrated” his words differently, said both individuals may have overreacted, and added that he was inviting Gates and Crowley to the White House for a beer.

The White House is now suggesting that Obama has calmed the storm around the incident, which had drawn attention from Obama’s top priority, a health care overhaul. “If you’ve seen the dialogue since, it’s been more positive,” Axelrod said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Obama realized, Axelrod said, that “his comments didn’t push the debate in the right direction. There is a real discussion to be had about how we improve community-police relations.”

He added, “Part of being a leader is saying, ‘You know what? My words had an effect I didn’t calibrate, and I want to acknowledge that and move forward.’…He obviously regretted his formulation. That was very clear from his remarks.”
...

"Calibrate?" - is that the new way of saying he put his foot in it? He refuses to apologize.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/07/24/2007942.aspx

Quote

From NBC’s Chuck Todd
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the president DOES regret commenting on the Gates issue ONLY in this respect: that had he known it would become such a media distraction, he would have refrained from commenting. But the president has said all he's going to say on the issue, according to Gibbs. He has not talked to Gates nor the Cambridge police officer.
...

Nope - not there either...

Even the MSNBC folks characterize it that way:

Obama: Poor choice of words in scholar’s arrest
But president stops short of public apology; calls officer to clear the air
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32122967/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/

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He stopped short of a public apology. But the president telephoned both Gates and the white officer who had arrested him, hoping to end the rancorous back-and-forth over what had transpired and what Obama had said about it.
...

BS

Admitting defeat and apology are not synonymous. Nice try though.

Vince(1) Wrote:

> However, the police as
> the intruding force in this circumstance should
> have just extricated themselves as quickly as
> possible to defuse the "race riot" they were so
> concerned about.

Funny, I never saw anything in any statement they made that indicated they were concerned about a "race riot".

Seriously Vince... lol
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Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Personally I am tired of
> all the phony outrage associated with this event.

I agree. It's about time Gates stops with that whole, "I only got arrested because I'm black" thing. He's setting a terrible example for the rest of the African American community.

> It is no wonder all we get on the news is is 7
> second sound bites...everyone has to be afraid of
> saying anything.

Exactly, because saying anything other than what people want to hear is now racist, apparently.

> The fact is..it is stupid that a
> man gets arrested for being in his own home...the
> entire situation was handled wrong...by Prof Gates

You can just stop there. He didn't get arrested for being in his own home, he got arrested for disorderly conduct after leaving his home to follow the cop back to his car, shouting that the cop was a racist

> However, the police as
> the intruding force in this circumstance should
> have just extricated themselves as quickly as
> possible to defuse the "race riot" they were so
> concerned about.

Racial backlash was probably the last thing on the cop's mind as he did his job. It sounds like the cop was trying to leave, but Gates couldn't keep his racist mouth shut.

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I believe Mr gates was invited outside his home...by the police officer...a perfect set up by a manipulative officer. Does anyone know of a complete transcript of the incident might be posted?

Here's what I found...sounds like a police set up to me...


http://www.theroot.com/views/lawyers-statement-arrest-henry-louis-gates-jr

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/27/2009 01:44PM by Vince(1).

I found it.

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911 Operator: Hello, 911. Please state your emergency.

Caller: Yes, I'd like to report a break-in.

911 Operator: In Cambridge? Are you fucking kidding me?

Caller: Yes, there's two guys with parachute pants and red Michael Jackson jackets breakin' in the streets. Should I shoot them?

911 Operator: No, we'll send someone over right away.

EOM.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> I believe Mr gates was invited outside his
> home...by the police officer...a perfect set up by
> a manipulative officer. Does anyone know of a
> complete transcript of the incident might be
> posted?
>
> Here's what I found...sounds like a police set up
> to me...
>
>
> http://www.theroot.com/views/lawyers-statement-arr
> est-henry-louis-gates-jr

Seriously Vince?

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Professor Gates then asked the police officer if he would give him his name and his badge number. He made this request several times. The officer did not produce any identification nor did he respond to Professor Gates’ request for this information. After an additional request by Professor Gates for the officer’s name and badge number, the officer then turned and left the kitchen of Professor Gates’ home without ever acknowledging who he was or if there were charges against Professor Gates. As Professor Gates followed the officer to his own front door, he was astonished to see several police officers gathered on his front porch. Professor Gates asked the officer’s colleagues for his name and badge number. As Professor Gates stepped onto his front porch, the officer who had been inside and who had examined his identification, said to him, “Thank you for accommodating my earlier request,” and then placed Professor Gates under arrest. He was handcuffed on his own front porch.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Of course, this article was written on July 20th.

If you read this article, it appears like the whole incident was very mellow. Yes indeed - an interesting "setup". Keep going Vince, you dig yourself deeper and deeper with every new twist and turn.

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Vince(1) Wrote:
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> I believe Mr gates was invited outside his
> home...by the police officer...a perfect set up by
> a manipulative officer.

This is racism, Vince. You immediately assume that the white police officer manipulated a black man so the white cop could arrest the black man for no other reason than he was black. This happened, of course, just because the officer is white. It's a racist mentality that prolongs racial conflicts in America. You're not giving the cop the benefit of the doubt just because he's white.

The 911 transcripts will probably be released soon, and I already provided a link to the police report (which I'm assuming you will completely disregard, because it was written by a white man).

You found one article that backs up your preconceived opinion, without looking at things like...

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20090727cambridge_to_release_gates_arrest_911_tapes/

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view/20090723colorblind_test_failed_its_henry_gates_who_plays_race_card/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/23/national/main5182351.shtml

http://www.blackvoices.com/newsarticle/_a/gates-arrest-cop-called-profiling-expert/20090723162209990001 - This article says Crowley "has taught a class on racial profiling for five years at the Lowell Police Academy" and "was hand-picked for the job by former police Commissioner Ronny Watson, who is black." Doesn't sound like a future KKK candidate to me...

http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2009/07/white_cop_who_arrested_black_s.html

I read your article. Will you read mine?

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This is what I gather from this incident. Gates probably over-reacted to the cop being at his house. Gates wouldn't lay off the cop, who was trying to leave the premises. The cop probably had the latitude to throw the cuffs on Gates, but probably should have just walked away, given that Gates didn't pose a threat to anyone and was in his own home. Obama shouldn't have said shit about this situation beyond the standard, "I don't know enough of the facts to have an opinion about this."

By the way, Vince, if you go to the third page of the police report (here's a link to help you: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0723092gates3.html), you'll see a report made by Officer Figueroa, who is a Latino police officer. Is he being racist, too?

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> By the way, Vince, if you go to the third page of
> the police report (here's a link to help you:
> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/07
> 23092gates3.html), you'll see a report made by
> Officer Figueroa, who is a Latino police officer.
> Is he being racist, too?

I dont think the standard is whether he is a racist...it's whether he handled the case as he should have. I think Washingtone-Locian comes very close to describing the situation accurately. Here's the thing...during those moments prior to the police officer knocking on the door....who had the chance to compose himself...prepare himself for all eventualities? Obviously the policemen did. Gates is taken by surprise..and for whatever reason takes it all in a very bad way. A trained and professional police officer should have evaluated the situation correctly...difused the situation, by getting the hell out of there once he knew what the facts were. He didnt.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105144

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> By the way, Vince, if you go to the third page of
> the police report (here's a link to help you:
> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/07
> 23092gates3.html), you'll see a report made by
> Officer Figueroa, who is a Latino police officer.
> Is he being racist, too?

No..he could just be a one police officer covering for another police officer...it happens all the time. Hell we have a murder in a MD jail where only 2 correction officials are the only possible suspects...and the cloak of silence keeps them both out of jail.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

Highlander Wrote:
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> http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=1
> 05144


So what!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Lets see...sitting in your home minding your own
> business...cops come in..start giving you a hard
> time! Who has the "right" to be upset?
>
> AGAIN...in VA..if a black cop was doing the same
> thing in a white owned house...you'd all be
> defending the home owner if he shot the cop!

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> I dont think the standard is whether he is a
> racist...it's whether he handled the case as he
> should have. I think Washingtone-Locian comes
> very close to describing the situation accurately.
> Here's the thing...during those moments prior to
> the police officer knocking on the door....who had
> the chance to compose himself...prepare himself
> for all eventualities? Obviously the policemen
> did. Gates is taken by surprise..and for whatever
> reason takes it all in a very bad way. A trained
> and professional police officer should have
> evaluated the situation correctly...difused the
> situation, by getting the hell out of there once
> he knew what the facts were. He didnt.

So, was the cop's decision to arrest Gates for disorderly conduct because he was screaming hate speech in public motivated by race, or wasn't it?

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I believe Mr gates was invited outside his
> > home...by the police officer...a perfect set up
> by
> > a manipulative officer.
>
> This is racism, Vince. You immediately assume
> that the white police officer manipulated a black
> man so the white cop could arrest the black man
> for no other reason than he was black. This
> happened, of course, just because the officer is
> white. It's a racist mentality that prolongs
> racial conflicts in America. You're not giving
> the cop the benefit of the doubt just because he's
> white.
>
I dont think I mentioned race once. But the fact is police officers know the law very well..and are able to lie to or confuse a suspect to get the information they need to make an arrest. And yes I do consider that manipulation...and at times unfair!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.



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Vince(1) Wrote:
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> I dont think I mentioned race once.

You did.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Lets see...sitting in your home minding your own
> business...cops come in..start giving you a hard
> time! Who has the "right" to be upset?
>
> AGAIN...in VA..if a black cop was doing the same
> thing in a white owned house...you'd all be
> defending the home owner if he shot the cop!

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I dont think I mentioned race once.
>
> You did.
>
> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lets see...sitting in your home minding your
> own
> > business...cops come in..start giving you a
> hard
> > time! Who has the "right" to be upset?
> >
> > AGAIN...in VA..if a black cop was doing the
> same
> > thing in a white owned house...you'd all be
> > defending the home owner if he shot the cop!


once and a hypothetical. I still think the examples applies.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

This has been turned into a racial issue by the very people that are crying racism. Most normal, well-adjusted people would have just showed the cop their ID, asked what it was about, explained the situation, and bid him good day.

Go read this guy's bio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Gates

He's a professor of African American studies, is about as pro-African American as they come, and is old enough to remember when a black man still had to fight (passively or otherwise) for his rights.

However, things are different now. The fat, lazy 20-something generation has never known a time when non-white people didn't have the same rights as us. Equality wasn't something we had to get used to, it's the only thing we've known.

Gates was being an asshole, and got what assholes deserve. I don't give a shit what color his skin is.

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MrMephisto wrote: "Gates was being an asshole, and got what assholes deserve."

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> This has been turned into a racial issue by the
> very people that are crying racism. Most normal,
> well-adjusted people would have just showed the
> cop their ID, asked what it was about, explained
> the situation, and bid him good day.
>
> Go read this guy's bio:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Gates
>
> He's a professor of African American studies, is
> about as pro-African American as they come, and is
> old enough to remember when a black man still had
> to fight (passively or otherwise) for his rights.
>
>
> However, things are different now. The fat, lazy
> 20-something generation has never known a time
> when non-white people didn't have the same rights
> as us. Equality wasn't something we had to get
> used to, it's the only thing we've known.
>
> Gates was being an asshole, and got what assholes
> deserve. I don't give a shit what color his skin
> is.

I was once in a situation like this.

I had an alarm system in a previous house, and had changed phone numbers or something but didn't call the alarm company to update the number.

I woke up one morning and didn't turn off the alarm before going out to get something from my car. I went back inside, took a shower and got dressed for work. When I stepped outside, there were two cops standing on either side of the doorway with guns drawn. I guess they arrived while I was in the shower, somehow heard me inside, but since the door was locked and they couldn't find any "signs of forced entry" anywhere, they and a few other officers staked out all the entry ways.

Needless to say it was quite a startle to see two cops holding guns (not pointing them at me, but they had them out of their holsters, just in case.) when I exited my home.

They explained the situation. The alarm was triggered, front door sensor, and the alarm company was unable to contact the owner. I said that I was the owner. They asked for ID, I produced it (reaching slowly while explaining that it was in my wallet in my back pocket), and they put their guns away and called the alarm company, I gave my password. They asked if there was anything else wrong, and I said no, and then they got in their cars and drove away.

The difference? I didn't say "You motherfuckers! Can't a white man take a shower in his own damn house while his silent alarm is going off without a half dozen cops showing up to make accusations!?!!?"

Mr Gates reacted to his feelings of injustice and oppression. It angered him that there are still people that will see a person breaking into a house and immediately assume that since he's black, he's not breaking into his own house, but someone else's.

The only racism that occurred was Gates being self-righteous about how everyone just assumed he was a criminal because he was black, when they assumed he was a criminial because he was observed breaking into a house (that happened to be his own house.)

The only defense I could have for his behavior was that he was just getting home from traveling and was probably tired, maybe a little frustrated from dealing with airport security, the flight, baggage claim, etc, and then even more frustrated because he couldn't get into his own home. We've all had those moments where we are on such an edge that one more thing can just make us lose our cool. I suspect that he was already on edge and this just made him snap.

But it tells alot about a person by the direction they go when they snap. He snapped towards the race card.



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Obama better back out of that "have a beer" invitation:
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Thurston Moore Wrote:
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> Obama better back out of that "have a beer"
> invitation:

I don't know why, but I think Obama inviting these guys to the White House to "have a beer" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. It's a cheap attempt to appeal to the lowest common denominator that he just pissed off with his comment about a cop doing his job.

If you were the cop, would you want to sit down and have a beer with this guy? Would you really want to become the face of the first presidential race issue? What would you talk about? "So yeah, bro, remember that time I arrested you for calling me a racist? Good times, good times."

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Thurston Moore Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obama better back out of that "have a beer"
> > invitation:
>
> I don't know why, but I think Obama inviting these
> guys to the White House to "have a beer" is the
> stupidest thing I've ever heard of. It's a cheap
> attempt to appeal to the lowest common denominator
> that he just pissed off with his comment about a
> cop doing his job.
>
> If you were the cop, would you want to sit down
> and have a beer with this guy? Would you really
> want to become the face of the first presidential
> race issue? What would you talk about? "So yeah,
> bro, remember that time I arrested you for calling
> me a racist? Good times, good times."


I could see that, on first thought, this might seem like a "every man" way to get beyond differences. I mean, "hey, let's just sit down, have a beer and talk like regular people. Forget about race, roles, whatever"

But you're right. Once you think it through, there's really nothing good that could from it. The Luckovich cartoon caricatured basically the extreme of that "have a beer" outcome.

Besides, aren't we concerned with global warming? Flying two guys down from Cambridge Mass just to "have a beer"? Or worse? Flying the president and all the cargo required for him to travel, up there? Just imagine the planet heating up another degree from that "carbon footprint"! oh the humanity!

More intelligent commentary from Mr Gates.

He notes all the places he has taught, including "one painful year at Duke" and then comments that he doesn't even like flying over North Carolina...



Evidently black churches are the way to go. You can make all sort of inflammatory, racists comments there and it is ok. Much like Reverend Wright, I am sure his comments here were just taken out of context. Not that he was as hateful as Wright was, but he was just as racist.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/28/2009 02:41AM by Registered Voter.

just thought i would put this out there: in VA, you are legally required to show the cops your identification card if they ask to see it.

see, this wont be a problem in VA because if you dont, you are breaking a law.

oh and just to be clear, anyone who defies the cops and starts freaking out will be arrested, regardless of race. cops dont give a shit about anyone but themselves so if you bother them in any way, they will have no problem arresting you. as a woman put it, "the police arent black or white, they're blue and that's who they protect."


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

m



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I don't like flying over NC either.

There's too much stupid in that country air.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> He's not a racial profiler...you are! So there!
> This entire thread is ridiculous...inspired by
> Obama haters..for Obama haters...enjoy yourselves!

Here are some (former) Obama supporters...........

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2009/07/26/nr.comrade.in.arms.cnn

§ Wrote:
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> I don't like flying over NC either.
>
> There's too much stupid in that country air.

You can say that again:


AP: Obama wins North Carolina


http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/11/ap_obama_wins_n.html

He's talking about the Republicans, obviously. They're really stupid.

CNN Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He's not a racial profiler...you are! So
> there!
> > This entire thread is ridiculous...inspired by
> > Obama haters..for Obama haters...enjoy
> yourselves!
>
> Here are some (former) Obama
> supporters...........
>
> http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2009/07/26/nr.
> comrade.in.arms.cnn


Cops supporting their own...big surprise. We have cops covering up murders for each other..and you think a little incident like this is going to break the bond of silence?

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

wuht wuht Wrote:
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> He's talking about the Republicans, obviously.
> They're really stupid.

Apparently he is really stupid, because Democrats hold an 800,000 edge in voter registration in NC. Plus, NC just elected a Democrat Senator and went for President Obama.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> This is what I gather from this incident. Gates
> probably over-reacted to the cop being at his
> house. Gates wouldn't lay off the cop, who was
> trying to leave the premises. The cop probably had
> the latitude to throw the cuffs on Gates, but
> probably should have just walked away, given that
> Gates didn't pose a threat to anyone and was in
> his own home. Obama shouldn't have said shit about
> this situation beyond the standard, "I don't know
> enough of the facts to have an opinion about
> this."


he shouldnt have an opinion on it. if its not in his teleprompter then it comes at umm as umm im slow
focus on more important things before impeach

Don't waste your time in silly threads like this.

Lopter Wrote:
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> Don't waste your time in silly threads like this.

maybe I should take my own advice.

wuht wuht wuht wuht wuht wuht wuht Wrote:
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> wuht wuht Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He's talking about the Republicans, obviously.
> > They're really stupid.
>
> Apparently he is really stupid, because Democrats
> hold an 800,000 edge in voter registration in NC.
> Plus, NC just elected a Democrat Senator and went
> for President Obama.

That's great. Thanks for pointing out the superiority of the Democrats.

Still chasing Obama's birth certificate?

wuhtafag Wrote:
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> That's great. Thanks for pointing out the
> superiority of the Democrats.
>
> Still chasing Obama's birth certificate?

Not really, I just happen to be a Dem from NC and can't stand to see the Dem party represented by individuals as retarded as the birthers.

You're stupid.

Hunky Wrote:
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> You're stupid.

He's a dumb Democrat. What do you expect?

You to be less stupid?

Troll jumpers - alert!!
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I would love the FOP to cover this one.


MOBILE, Alabama (AP) — Police in Mobile, Ala., used pepper spray and a Taser on a deaf, mentally disabled man who they said wouldn't leave a store's bathroom.
The family of 37-year-old Antonio Love has filed a formal complaint over the incident on Friday.

Police tell the Press-Register of Mobile that officers shot pepper spray under the bathroom door after knocking several times. After forcing the door open, they used the stun gun on Love.

Police spokesman Christopher Levy says police didn't realize Love had a hearing impairment until after he was out of the bathroom. The officers' conduct is under investigation.

The newspaper says the officers attempted to book Love on charges including disorderly conduct, but a magistrate on duty wouldn't accept the charges.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32202886#32202886


Should the FOP comment on this arrest as well?

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32202886#3
> 2202886
>
>
> Should the FOP comment on this arrest as well?

What idiots. In this case there isn't much more to look at - in order to get avoid getting a bad write-up in their file, or a dressing down, they work to fake a story. Well, in this case it is good they had cameras in the cars with microphones. At least there is no question of their stupid behavior.

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> FUNdamental Wrote:
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> >
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32202886#3
>
> > 2202886
> >
> >
> > Should the FOP comment on this arrest as well?
>
> What idiots. In this case there isn't much more to
> look at - in order to get avoid getting a bad
> write-up in their file, or a dressing down, they
> work to fake a story. Well, in this case it is
> good they had cameras in the cars with
> microphones. At least there is no question of
> their stupid behavior.


So, what you are saying is, in both the above instances, and the Cambridge incident, "the cops acted stupidly."

FUNdamental Wrote:
>
> So, what you are saying is, in both the above
> instances, and the Cambridge incident, "the cops
> acted stupidly."

Um.. no?

Not even sure how you made the leap from my one comment on criminal conduct by police in trying to cover up an incident, to applying that to the Gates incident.

Great - you found a video where a cop made comments he was going to avoid potential punishment (administratively) for rear-ending someone by saying she changed lanes in front of him which is why he hit her. It didn't change the fact that the woman was guilty of DUI - unfortunately for everyone involved, she had an accident with the cop (that was his fault). She was still guilty of DUI - although in her case I would hope they threw it out seeing as how it turned our she was stopped. But he didn't arrest her for a fake charge. He just changed the setting a bit so he wouldn't get in trouble for wrecking his car. What he ended up doing was criminal, and ultimately he will pay for it.

This has nothing to do with the Gates incident.



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FUNdamental Wrote:

> Police tell the Press-Register of Mobile that
> officers shot pepper spray under the bathroom door
> after knocking several times. After forcing the
> door open, they used the stun gun on Love.
>
> Police spokesman Christopher Levy says police
> didn't realize Love had a hearing impairment until
> after he was out of the bathroom. The officers'
> conduct is under investigation.
>
> The newspaper says the officers attempted to book
> Love on charges including disorderly conduct, but
> a magistrate on duty wouldn't accept the charges.

So? They don't know the guy, they figure because he is not responding he is ignoring them. Evidently someone called in to complain the guy wouldn't leave the bathroom, or somehow they found out here was in there and not coming out.

Using the pepper spray was probably an attempt to get the person to leave the bathroom by making it hard to breath (tear gas anyone?). Is there some other information you have that indicates the guy wasn't acting oddly, or that they knew he was impaired so they tazered him on purpose? Otherwise not even sure what this has to do with anything above either. Was there race involved? Doesn't appear that way.

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> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32202886#3
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> > > Should the FOP comment on this arrest as
> well?
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> > What idiots. In this case there isn't much more
> to
> > look at - in order to get avoid getting a bad
> > write-up in their file, or a dressing down,
> they
> > work to fake a story. Well, in this case it is
> > good they had cameras in the cars with
> > microphones. At least there is no question of
> > their stupid behavior.
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> So, what you are saying is, in both the above
> instances, and the Cambridge incident, "the cops
> acted stupidly."


Are you a product of the FCPS? Your post is wholly illogical and devoid of any intelligent thought. Plus, you are supposed to use a question mark - it looks like this: "?" - when asking a question.

Actually that is fine as a statement. If he had worded it "So, are you saying that in both the above instances, and the Cambridge incident, the cops acted stupidly" and used a period that would be wrong. I'm not saying the form used was perfect, but it stands fine as a statement.

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Do you think Obama will have a special plaque made up for the occasion with a couple of bronzed beer bottles on it? And then maybe hang a little certificate noting the first Presidential Beer Reconciliation Meeting was held there?

Did he mention that he's a White Sox fan yet?