Yeah, not so much. lol!


MSNBC: Obama’s Syria Policy ‘In Tatters’ And ‘The Biggest Problem With His Foreign Policy Legacy’

September 29, 2015 7:59 am

MSNBC’s Morning Joe panel savaged President Obama’s record on Syria Tuesday, with BBC anchor Katty Kay saying it was “in tatters” and Council on Foreign Relations president Richard Haass declaring it “the biggest problem with his foreign policy legacy.”

Syrian policy has come to the forefront again in recent weeks with the full-blown refugee crisis brought about by the ruinous civil war there. The Bashar al-Assad regime’s cruel actions against their own people and the Obama administration’s lack of action, Kay said, had provided a “vacuum” for the Russians to step in and lead the international response to that situation.

Putin has said supporting Assad is the best way to combat the Islamic State terrorist group, while Obama has stuck to the mantra of “Assad must go” in order for there to be a political solution to the disastrous situation in Syria.

“The truth is the Americans don’t really have a plan, and what I think the Russian moves over the last couple of weeks have shown is the extent to which the U.S. policy in Syria is in tatters and has been so for several years now,” Kay said. “There have been moments over the course of the last four years where the U.S. could have effectively intervened, where it could have imposed no-fly zones, where it could have imposed buffer zones, where it could have used coercion and force to stop President Assad barrel-bombing his own people, which has been a major recruiting tool for ISIS. It didn’t do any of those things, and now the Russians are taking that vacuum.”

Gerry is a huge dumbfuck. He completely bought into The Obobo.


The Obobo is truly the worst foreign policy president in our lifetime.


He thought the Arab Spring would last forever, it lasted about as long as the Summer of Love....

Now the world has turned to Altamont...



Ugly brute force rules and puke is salvation. Trade your love beads for chains and your weed for meth and PCP.



Obama humiliated America and himself on the world stage. First rule of Fight Club: NEVER MAKE A THREAT YOU WILL NOT BACK UP!!! Obama the Faggot drew a red line with Syria then wilted like a daisy when Assad crossed it. Camel gangsters have no respect for the Jug-eared Jagaloon now. I never wanted war, now we have to live like impotent jesters on Putins world stage.


Gertard aka Bunga Din, you fucking unAmerican POS. It is your fault Obama LOVER!



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lol "Putin's world stage." How do you respond to someone with such warped ignorant understanding of global affairs.

The worst foreign policy president after they gave us George W. Bush and all the current Republican presidential candidates have adopted the senseless expensive war on terror extremist neo con philosophy.

lol, Putin's world stage. lmao.

You gotta do nothing but listen and read endless mind fuck right wing tard shit to be as stupid as Wingnut.

I feel bad for him. The shit that the right spews is demented. Its nothing but endless fear and depressing analysis that we are on an irreversible trajectory to armageddon because we don't fight others peoples wars for them.

Peace through war, that's the Republican mindset. George Orwell couldn't have said it better himself.

Having read Gerry's best two attempts at a response, appears the OP is correct.

IS the OP suggesting that we should of invaded Syria too?

UMMMMMM FUCK NO! That all the US needs to rebuild and payoff Syrians.

Bush already wasted trillions of US taxpayer dollars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Independent Review Wrote:
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> Having read Gerry's best two attempts at a
> response, appears the OP is correct.


You know Gerry's struggling when he responds multiple times to nobody and babbles.

Wasting US Tax Dollars Wrote:
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> IS the OP suggesting that we should of invaded
> Syria too?
>
> UMMMMMM FUCK NO! That all the US needs to rebuild
> and payoff Syrians.
>
> Bush already wasted trillions of US taxpayer
> dollars in Afghanistan and Iraq.


Does the poster know that "should of" qualifies their post as that of an idiot?

All I know is that Obama said the world is flat and I jumped on board. He couldn't be wrong since he is a Democratic President. You don't get that position without being smart.

WingNut Wrote:
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> Gerry is a huge dumbfuck. He completely bought
> into The Obobo.
>
>
> The Obobo is truly the worst foreign policy
> president in our lifetime.
>
>
> He thought the Arab Spring would last forever, it
> lasted about as long as the Summer of Love....
>
> src=http://rymimg.com/lk/f/s/fbde09a91ac476c3435a3
> 5f2a9bcaeec/972724.gif>
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>
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>
> Now the world has turned to Altamont...
>
> src=http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/s
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> in-the-news-19700121/20121028-altamont-624x420-135
> 1456706.jpg>
>
> Ugly brute force rules and puke is salvation.
> Trade your love beads for chains and your weed for
> meth and PCP.
>
>
>
> Obama humiliated America and himself on the world
> stage. First rule of Fight Club: NEVER MAKE A
> THREAT YOU WILL NOT BACK UP!!! Obama the Faggot
> drew a red line with Syria then wilted like a
> daisy when Assad crossed it. Camel gangsters have
> no respect for the Jug-eared Jagaloon now. I never
> wanted war, now we have to live like impotent
> jesters on Putins world stage.
>
>
> Gertard aka Bunga Din, you fucking unAmerican POS.
> It is your fault Obama LOVER!


WingNut is starting to become irritated again. Probably is being thrown out on his ass from the latest temporary dwelling.
Just be hell to have no life, no home and his social life consists of FFXU.
Sound familiar?

Wasting US Tax Dollars Wrote:
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> IS the OP suggesting that we should of invaded
> Syria too?
>
> UMMMMMM FUCK NO! That all the US needs to rebuild
> and payoff Syrians.
>
> Bush already wasted trillions of US taxpayer
> dollars in Afghanistan and Iraq.


The OP isn't the one that drew a red line that he dared Assad to cross.That was President Professor. It is impossible to understand how anyone could disagree that every move PP made in the Middle East gave the world disasterous results.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> lol "Putin's world stage." How do you respond to
> someone with such warped ignorant understanding of
> global affairs.
>
> The worst foreign policy president after they gave
> us George W. Bush and all the current Republican
> presidential candidates have adopted the senseless
> expensive war on terror extremist neo con
> philosophy.
>
> lol, Putin's world stage. lmao.


Gerry you are so dumb you evaluate Putin as a foreign policy failure in your eyes as an AMERICAN! You are too stupid to understand his foreign policy success or failure is measured in the eyes of the Russian people.
You are also completely unaware of the significance of President Professor being schooled in the back room by Putin.

Throuhout the history of mankind there are idiots like Gerry who laugh and mock others who recognize a serious threat to world order. Those idiots are on the wrong side of history 100 per cent of the time.

Neville "Gerry" Chamberlain dumbest poster on Ffu. dumbest man in his 7/11. Still ready for Hillary.



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Mike O'Meara Show Ass Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
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> -----
> > Gerry is a huge dumbfuck. He completely bought
> > into The Obobo.
> >
> >
> > The Obobo is truly the worst foreign policy
> > president in our lifetime.
> >
> >
> > He thought the Arab Spring would last forever,
> it
> > lasted about as long as the Summer of Love....
> >
> > >
> src=http://rymimg.com/lk/f/s/fbde09a91ac476c3435a3
>
> > 5f2a9bcaeec/972724.gif>
> >
> >

> >
> >

> >
> > Now the world has turned to Altamont...
> >
> > >
> src=http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/s
>
> >
> tory/the-rolling-stones-disaster-at-altamont-hype-
>
> >
> in-the-news-19700121/20121028-altamont-624x420-135
>
> > 1456706.jpg>
> >
> > Ugly brute force rules and puke is salvation.
> > Trade your love beads for chains and your weed
> for
> > meth and PCP.
> >
> >
> >
> > Obama humiliated America and himself on the
> world
> > stage. First rule of Fight Club: NEVER MAKE A
> > THREAT YOU WILL NOT BACK UP!!! Obama the Faggot
> > drew a red line with Syria then wilted like a
> > daisy when Assad crossed it. Camel gangsters
> have
> > no respect for the Jug-eared Jagaloon now. I
> never
> > wanted war, now we have to live like impotent
> > jesters on Putins world stage.
> >
> >
> > Gertard aka Bunga Din, you fucking unAmerican
> POS.
> > It is your fault Obama LOVER!
>
>
> WingNut is starting to become irritated again.
> Probably is being thrown out on his ass from the
> latest temporary dwelling.
> Just be hell to have no life, no home and his
> social life consists of FFXU.
> Sound familiar?


I think you may be correct. And all he has is a limited 3g data plan for entertainment. Thats why he prefers trolling ffxu.

Hes a 3g rat.

Russia using its own treasury to bomb mussies, then I am all for it. Let them get their hands dirty for once.

Exactly, whats the problem? Republicans have a problem with other nations spending their money rather than putting ourselves in deep debt?

And its cheaper for them to do it. American miliatry might is ten times more expensive pound for pound compared to the next country.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Exactly, whats the problem? Republicans have a
> problem with other nations spending their money
> rather than putting ourselves in deep debt?
>
> And its cheaper for them to do it. American
> miliatry might is ten times more expensive pound
> for pound compared to the next country.


Republicans, Democrats, and independents all recognize Obama's lack of any coherent approach to Syria, ISIS and the rest of the Middle East for exactly what it is - a complete and utter failure built on fantasy visions of what should happen. He's not even been successful as far as his own limited objectives as stated. Unless maybe you want to consider that his only real goal is to do as little as possible until he's out of office.

Alright I've looked at this and concluded that its correlated to the price of oil. Saudi Arabia's main reason wasnt putting U.S. shale out of business. It was weakening Iran and Russia and primarily its asset Assad.

Putin is looking to change the dynamics and scare the living fuck out of the Saudis so they reassess increased oil production based on strategic reasons.

The Russians look like they want show the camel jockeys how chess is really played.

I think the U.S. should back off and not get in the middle of this.



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A regional proxy war is on the horizon. I expect the Saudis to pump as much oil as they can as long as Russia is in Syria.

Its all good for us. We keep our money and the Russians and Saudis go broke instead. Obama is a fuckin genius.

More 'deep' foreign policy insight from Gerryfailerer. lol

Which is useful in that whatever he says, you can assume roughly the opposite will happen.

State Department spokesman John Kirby say Russian air strikes target Syrian opposition in Homs not ISIS.

US told to remove any presence from the area.

John Kerry goes on TV at the UN to impotently whine about it.

Moron.

Wednesday, NBC News chief foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell reported that the Russian airstrikes that started in Syria today are not targeting ISIS, but instead civilians opposed to President Bashar al-Assad.

Mitchell said, “The president of Russia went to the parliament and got approval very quickly. They cut off any live coverage of the debate there. He got the parliamentary approval, and then jets started flying. And according to all reports from Paris, from here, from around the world, what we are seeing is attacks at least on one area that is civilian. That is an area of homes which is populated by rebel groups, not by ISIS, where Putin got the authority to go against ISIS, which he claims he needed — and you know that’s a rubber stamp in Moscow. He’s actually going after Assad’s opposition there on the ground, according to all the reports that we’ve seen, and this would be very disturbing indeed because this is contrary to his claim that he’s assembled a coalition to go after ISIS. He’s really helping to prop up Assad.”

Or Middle East oil production is disrupted and the price of oil skyrockets giving Putin a new source of income for Russia. Now who is the genius?

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Alright I've looked at this and concluded that its
> correlated to the price of oil. Saudi Arabia's
> main reason wasnt putting U.S. shale out of
> business. It was weakening Iran and Russia and
> primarily its asset Assad.

This idea isn't as crazy as it sounds.

However, I suspect someone asked the Saudi's to do this. Probably also made some deals about not revealing the Saudi's dirty laundry or pushing to have their country host immigrants from the region. The low gas prices also make a certain administration look good.

Remember that Russia really only has a single export -- energy -- and their biggest customer is China which is currently suffering its own economic issues.

Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> Or Middle East oil production is disrupted and the
> price of oil skyrockets giving Putin a new source
> of income for Russia. Now who is the genius?

There ya go, man. +1


I am back in oil again. Small ball but I think there will be a disruption.

idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam



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We are failing horrifically in Syria, just like we always have in the mideast. A republican president won't do any better.

Let Russia do their thing.

As far as Assad goes, look at Iraq after Saddam got overthrown. Its a mess. Maybe the mideast needs to be ruled by tyrants. Democracy isn't for everyone.

Hitler was democratically elected. How did that turn out?

The Obobo humiliated America and made us look weak.

I don't want us to go to war in Syria, but I don't want a bellicose president selling woof tickets and talking about "red-lines" either when he it is an empty threat and he crumbles like a pansy when his bluff is rightfully called.

The Obobo is obviously a believer that America is the cause of all Middle East problems and he has checked out and disengaged.

His hope for an "Arab Spring" holds about as much weight as Gerry's nutsack. Bombing Libya and selling out Mubarak in Egypt were huge blunders.

idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam



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Democracy means plurality rules. That's why the US, Israelis, Saudis, and friends are trying to partition Iraq along sectarian lines so their friends Kurdistan and Anbar aren't subject to Baghdad's governance. Another name for it is Divide-and-Rule, a policy formalized under Paetreus.