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Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: June 08, 2015 08:07AM
Do libtard anti-gun fucks ever consider this:
BadGuy wants to rob someone.
BadGuy will not rob someone who has a gun.
BadGuy will not rob someone who "might" have a gun.
BadGuy will rob someone he knows does not have a gun.
The uncertainty of who owns guns and who does not keeps
BadGuy guessing.
People who do not own guns enjoy a "social benefit" because of people who do own guns.
AM I correct?
BadGuy wants to rob someone.
BadGuy will not rob someone who has a gun.
BadGuy will not rob someone who "might" have a gun.
BadGuy will rob someone he knows does not have a gun.
The uncertainty of who owns guns and who does not keeps
BadGuy guessing.
People who do not own guns enjoy a "social benefit" because of people who do own guns.
AM I correct?
idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam
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Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
m6vjN
()
Date: June 08, 2015 08:09AM
This sounds like a loaded question!
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Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: June 08, 2015 08:13AM
Welcome to the site m6vjN!
We are glad to have you aboard!
We are glad to have you aboard!
idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam
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Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
m6vjN
()
Date: June 08, 2015 08:15AM
Thanks Wing, how was your weekend? Excited for summer?! It's the most wonderful time of year I hear!
I'm still trying to think of how to answer your question by the way, so don't think I've veered off topic, here on off topic!
I'm still trying to think of how to answer your question by the way, so don't think I've veered off topic, here on off topic!
Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: June 08, 2015 08:16AM
m6vjN Wrote:
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> Thanks Wing, how was your weekend? Excited for
> summer?! It's the most wonderful time of year I
> hear!
>
> I'm still trying to think of how to answer your
> question by the way, so don't think I've veered
> off topic, here on off topic!
That's OK!
All we ask is that you try your best!
:)
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> Thanks Wing, how was your weekend? Excited for
> summer?! It's the most wonderful time of year I
> hear!
>
> I'm still trying to think of how to answer your
> question by the way, so don't think I've veered
> off topic, here on off topic!
That's OK!
All we ask is that you try your best!
:)
idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam
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Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
2nd Amendment Solutions
()
Date: June 08, 2015 08:18AM
> People who do not own guns enjoy a "social benefit" because of people who do own guns.
Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: June 08, 2015 08:32AM
It's not 100% failproof, but if you live in a neighborhood with a cop, it is somewhat of a deterrent...
Guns are not for everyone, but I would not discount the preventative aspect that they play when it comes to crime.
The crime that DID NOT happen because the perp was scared of being shot is a SUCCESS.
When a perp is SHOT trying to rob someone or break into a house, it is also a SUCCESS because it makes other bad guys think twice.
Wrong?
Guns are not for everyone, but I would not discount the preventative aspect that they play when it comes to crime.
The crime that DID NOT happen because the perp was scared of being shot is a SUCCESS.
When a perp is SHOT trying to rob someone or break into a house, it is also a SUCCESS because it makes other bad guys think twice.
Wrong?
idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam
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Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
Conserva-tards!
()
Date: June 08, 2015 09:21AM
WingNut Wrote:
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> The crime that DID NOT happen because the perp was
> scared of being shot is a SUCCESS.
Your "crime that DID NOT happen because the perp was scared of being shot" hypothesis is much like the supposed "deterent effect" of the death penalty on murder rates: each is impossible to measure.
You're not necessarily wrong, but you cannot prove that you're right.
Conserva-tards!
LoLz!
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> The crime that DID NOT happen because the perp was
> scared of being shot is a SUCCESS.
Your "crime
You're not necessarily wrong, but you cannot prove that you're right.
Conserva-tards!
LoLz!
Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
COnserva-tards!
()
Date: June 08, 2015 09:22AM
Well, that didn't work as I had expected...
WingNut Wrote:
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> The crime that DID NOT happen because the perp was
> scared of being shot is a SUCCESS.
Your "crime that DID NOT happen because the perp was scared of being shot" hypothesis is much like the supposed "deterent effect" of the death penalty on murder rates: each is impossible to measure.
You're not necessarily wrong, but you cannot prove that you're right.
Conserva-tards!
LoLz!
WingNut Wrote:
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> The crime that DID NOT happen because the perp was
> scared of being shot is a SUCCESS.
Your "crime that DID NOT happen because the perp was scared of being shot" hypothesis is much like the supposed "deterent effect" of the death penalty on murder rates: each is impossible to measure.
You're not necessarily wrong, but you cannot prove that you're right.
Conserva-tards!
LoLz!
Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
I Luv Bacon
()
Date: June 08, 2015 11:17AM
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Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
Gunlover-tard
()
Date: June 08, 2015 11:35AM
^^^^
"But we spoke to parents who said they had never seen a guard on campus with a weapon. And Ellis Turner, associate head of Sidwell Friends (where Gregory's kids go), told us emphatically: “Sidwell Friends security officers do not carry guns.” (Note: this includes those listed as special police officers.)
Sidwell Friends, by the way, has two distinct campuses, a lower school in Bethesda and a middle and upper schools in Washington. So given shift rotations and three different schools, it appears that the 11 “armed guards” is really just one or two unarmed guards per school at a time.
The most recent data on school security by the National Center for Education Statistics shows that 27 percent of public schools have either police or security guards on campus, with virtually all of the larger schools (1,500 students or more) having such security. Indeed, 58 percent of all public high schools have security personnel.
Interestingly, only 6 percent of all private schools have security personnel, though more than 50 percent of those with more than 1,000 students do have security. Sidwell’s enrollment is just over 1,000 students, so having some security guards is not unusual for a private school of its size.
An NRA spokesman did not return a call for comment."
Liars gonna lie!
Never run out of spin.
Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people - quite often by accident.
The most important day in your life is the day some gunlover-tard accidentally kills you
"But we spoke to parents who said they had never seen a guard on campus with a weapon. And Ellis Turner, associate head of Sidwell Friends (where Gregory's kids go), told us emphatically: “Sidwell Friends security officers do not carry guns.” (Note: this includes those listed as special police officers.)
Sidwell Friends, by the way, has two distinct campuses, a lower school in Bethesda and a middle and upper schools in Washington. So given shift rotations and three different schools, it appears that the 11 “armed guards” is really just one or two unarmed guards per school at a time.
The most recent data on school security by the National Center for Education Statistics shows that 27 percent of public schools have either police or security guards on campus, with virtually all of the larger schools (1,500 students or more) having such security. Indeed, 58 percent of all public high schools have security personnel.
Interestingly, only 6 percent of all private schools have security personnel, though more than 50 percent of those with more than 1,000 students do have security. Sidwell’s enrollment is just over 1,000 students, so having some security guards is not unusual for a private school of its size.
An NRA spokesman did not return a call for comment."
Liars gonna lie!
Never run out of spin.
Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people - quite often by accident.
The most important day in your life is the day some gunlover-tard accidentally kills you
Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
Ghetto Gun Fights
()
Date: June 08, 2015 11:57AM
WingNut Wrote:
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> Do libtard anti-gun fucks ever consider this:
>
> BadGuy wants to rob someone.
>
> BadGuy will not rob someone who has a gun.
>
> BadGuy will not rob someone who "might" have a
> gun.
>
> BadGuy will rob someone he knows does not have a
> gun.
>
> The uncertainty of who owns guns and who does not
> keeps
> BadGuy guessing.
>
> People who do not own guns enjoy a "social
> benefit" because of people who do own guns.
>
> AM I correct?
Wrong!
Complete bullshit. Ever lived in the ghetto or a poor neighborhood.
People who own guns get robbed and shot all the time.
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> Do libtard anti-gun fucks ever consider this:
>
> BadGuy wants to rob someone.
>
> BadGuy will not rob someone who has a gun.
>
> BadGuy will not rob someone who "might" have a
> gun.
>
> BadGuy will rob someone he knows does not have a
> gun.
>
> The uncertainty of who owns guns and who does not
> keeps
> BadGuy guessing.
>
> People who do not own guns enjoy a "social
> benefit" because of people who do own guns.
>
> AM I correct?
Wrong!
Complete bullshit. Ever lived in the ghetto or a poor neighborhood.
People who own guns get robbed and shot all the time.
Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
Bacon Nuts
()
Date: June 08, 2015 01:36PM
Ghetto Gun Fights Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do libtard anti-gun fucks ever consider this:
> >
> > BadGuy wants to rob someone.
> >
> > BadGuy will not rob someone who has a gun.
> >
> > BadGuy will not rob someone who "might" have a
> > gun.
> >
> > BadGuy will rob someone he knows does not have
> a
> > gun.
> >
> > The uncertainty of who owns guns and who does
> not
> > keeps
> > BadGuy guessing.
> >
> > People who do not own guns enjoy a "social
> > benefit" because of people who do own guns.
> >
> > AM I correct?
>
> Wrong!
>
> Complete bullshit. Ever lived in the ghetto or a
> poor neighborhood.
>
> People who own guns get robbed and shot all the
> time.
The nice part is if your a gun owner you're 75% more likely to be shot dead by police.
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do libtard anti-gun fucks ever consider this:
> >
> > BadGuy wants to rob someone.
> >
> > BadGuy will not rob someone who has a gun.
> >
> > BadGuy will not rob someone who "might" have a
> > gun.
> >
> > BadGuy will rob someone he knows does not have
> a
> > gun.
> >
> > The uncertainty of who owns guns and who does
> not
> > keeps
> > BadGuy guessing.
> >
> > People who do not own guns enjoy a "social
> > benefit" because of people who do own guns.
> >
> > AM I correct?
>
> Wrong!
>
> Complete bullshit. Ever lived in the ghetto or a
> poor neighborhood.
>
> People who own guns get robbed and shot all the
> time.
The nice part is if your a gun owner you're 75% more likely to be shot dead by police.
Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
Dogga Snitka
()
Date: June 08, 2015 01:43PM
Ghetto Gun Fights Wrote:
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> > BadGuy will not rob someone who has a gun.
> >
> > BadGuy will not rob someone who "might" have a
> > gun.
> >
> > BadGuy will rob someone he knows does not have
> a
> > gun.
> > People who do not own guns enjoy a "social
> > benefit" because of people who do own guns.
> >
> > AM I correct?
>
> Wrong!
>
> Complete bullshit. Ever lived in the ghetto or a
> poor neighborhood.
>
> People who own guns get robbed and shot all the
> time.
Word bro! Thank us gun owners
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> > BadGuy will not rob someone who has a gun.
> >
> > BadGuy will not rob someone who "might" have a
> > gun.
> >
> > BadGuy will rob someone he knows does not have
> a
> > gun.
> > People who do not own guns enjoy a "social
> > benefit" because of people who do own guns.
> >
> > AM I correct?
>
> Wrong!
>
> Complete bullshit. Ever lived in the ghetto or a
> poor neighborhood.
>
> People who own guns get robbed and shot all the
> time.
Word bro! Thank us gun owners
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Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
Ronnies Ruin
()
Date: June 08, 2015 02:23PM
hmmmm .. lets see ... who exactly gets shot by who?
50% of gun deaths - Suicide, usually the gun owner or spouse
30% of gun deaths - Spouse of the gun owner (murdered)
10% of gun deaths - Children or relatives of the gun owner (accidents)
8% of gun deaths - Accidents or 'anger' shootings of strangers
2% of gun deaths - Criminals shot attempting robbery
And you think your safe owning a gun, god help your family .. you aint!!
50% of gun deaths - Suicide, usually the gun owner or spouse
30% of gun deaths - Spouse of the gun owner (murdered)
10% of gun deaths - Children or relatives of the gun owner (accidents)
8% of gun deaths - Accidents or 'anger' shootings of strangers
2% of gun deaths - Criminals shot attempting robbery
And you think your safe owning a gun, god help your family .. you aint!!
Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
Bud Hoal...
()
Date: June 08, 2015 06:36PM
Ronnies Ruin Wrote:
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> hmmmm .. lets see ... who exactly gets shot by
> who?
>
> 50% of gun deaths - Suicide, usually the gun owner
> or spouse
> 30% of gun deaths - Spouse of the gun owner
> (murdered)
> 10% of gun deaths - Children or relatives of the
> gun owner (accidents)
> 8% of gun deaths - Accidents or 'anger' shootings
> of strangers
> 2% of gun deaths - Criminals shot attempting
> robbery
>
> And you think your safe owning a gun, god help
> your family .. you aint!!
Please cite your sources of data.
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> hmmmm .. lets see ... who exactly gets shot by
> who?
>
> 50% of gun deaths - Suicide, usually the gun owner
> or spouse
> 30% of gun deaths - Spouse of the gun owner
> (murdered)
> 10% of gun deaths - Children or relatives of the
> gun owner (accidents)
> 8% of gun deaths - Accidents or 'anger' shootings
> of strangers
> 2% of gun deaths - Criminals shot attempting
> robbery
>
> And you think your safe owning a gun, god help
> your family .. you aint!!
Please cite your sources of data.
Re: Non-Gunowners Should THANK Gun Owners....
Posted by:
CDC says you're full of shit
()
Date: June 08, 2015 07:33PM
Ronnies Ruin Wrote:
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> hmmmm .. lets see ... who exactly gets shot by
> who?
>
> 50% of gun deaths - Suicide, usually the gun owner
> or spouse
> 30% of gun deaths - Spouse of the gun owner
> (murdered)
> 10% of gun deaths - Children or relatives of the
> gun owner (accidents)
> 8% of gun deaths - Accidents or 'anger' shootings
> of strangers
> 2% of gun deaths - Criminals shot attempting
> robbery
>
> And you think your safe owning a gun, god help
> your family .. you aint!!
Complete bullshit.
Suicides are about 2/3rds or about 20,000 out of around 33,000 total gun deaths in a given year plus or minus a few depending on source.
Accidental firearms deaths for all ages are a relatively trivial number in the scheme of things. About 600-800/year in recent years. For children 14 and under it's an average of 62/year.
The vast majority of the remaining 8,000 to 11,000-ish firearms deaths depending on source and year are young black males age 15-24 shooting each other.
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> hmmmm .. lets see ... who exactly gets shot by
> who?
>
> 50% of gun deaths - Suicide, usually the gun owner
> or spouse
> 30% of gun deaths - Spouse of the gun owner
> (murdered)
> 10% of gun deaths - Children or relatives of the
> gun owner (accidents)
> 8% of gun deaths - Accidents or 'anger' shootings
> of strangers
> 2% of gun deaths - Criminals shot attempting
> robbery
>
> And you think your safe owning a gun, god help
> your family .. you aint!!
Complete bullshit.
Suicides are about 2/3rds or about 20,000 out of around 33,000 total gun deaths in a given year plus or minus a few depending on source.
Accidental firearms deaths for all ages are a relatively trivial number in the scheme of things. About 600-800/year in recent years. For children 14 and under it's an average of 62/year.
The vast majority of the remaining 8,000 to 11,000-ish firearms deaths depending on source and year are young black males age 15-24 shooting each other.