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Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Debbie Downer Democrat XXXX
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Date: March 10, 2014 01:06PM
OK, let me get this straight. Bloomberg news has a great article today on how the world's debt has now broken the $100 Trillion dollar level.
Also, within the article is a great little tid-bit on the U.S. as follows:
"Marketable U.S. government debt outstanding has surged to a record $12 trillion, up from $4.5 trillion at the end of 2007, according to U.S. Treasury data compiled by Bloomberg. Corporate bond sales globally jumped during the period, with issuance totaling more than $21 trillion, Bloomberg data show."
** Since late 2007, our debt has gone up from $4.5 Trillion dollars to $12 Trillion dollars. Doing the math, Bush was only in the office for one of those years. However, Obama has been in office over 5 years.
++ Discuss.
*** Gerry can't mention Bush's name in any of his responses as that will hurt his credibility beyond how bad it has been hurt to date.
* Link to the full article:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-09/global-debt-exceeds-100-trillion-as-governments-binge-bis-says.html
Also, within the article is a great little tid-bit on the U.S. as follows:
"Marketable U.S. government debt outstanding has surged to a record $12 trillion, up from $4.5 trillion at the end of 2007, according to U.S. Treasury data compiled by Bloomberg. Corporate bond sales globally jumped during the period, with issuance totaling more than $21 trillion, Bloomberg data show."
** Since late 2007, our debt has gone up from $4.5 Trillion dollars to $12 Trillion dollars. Doing the math, Bush was only in the office for one of those years. However, Obama has been in office over 5 years.
++ Discuss.
*** Gerry can't mention Bush's name in any of his responses as that will hurt his credibility beyond how bad it has been hurt to date.
* Link to the full article:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-09/global-debt-exceeds-100-trillion-as-governments-binge-bis-says.html
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
NAWT
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Date: March 10, 2014 01:33PM
That doesn't look like Bush to me.
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Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Gerrrymanderrer2
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Date: March 10, 2014 02:17PM
It was Bush.
What about Bush?
Well, Bush did it too.
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Well, Bush did it too.
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Well, Bush did it too.
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Well, Bush did it too.
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What about Bush?
Well, Bush did it too.
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What about Bush?
Well, Bush did it too.
What about Bush?
Well, Bush did it too.
It was Bush.
What about Bush?
Well, Bush did it too.
It was Bush.
What about Bush?
Well, Bush did it too.
It was Bush.
What about Bush?
Well, Bush did it too.
It was Bush.
What about Bush?
Well, Bush did it too.
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What about Bush?
Well, Bush did it too.
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What about Bush?
Well, Bush did it too.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: March 10, 2014 02:24PM
You right wingers are getting boring and repetitive even for me.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Hmmmmmm
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Date: March 10, 2014 02:31PM
It occurred to me that Gerrymanderer2 is actually Far Right troll, posting his incessant and inane attacks on all things conservatice, and Bush in particular, in order to generate more input from conservatives.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
FYD9D
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Date: March 10, 2014 02:35PM
Hmmmmmm Wrote:
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> It occurred to me that Gerrymanderer2 is actually
> Far Right troll, posting his incessant and inane
> attacks on all things conservatice, and Bush in
> particular, in order to generate more input from
> conservatives.
I don't think so. When you have so many contard trolls, it's only a matter of time before a libtard troll comes along to play.
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> It occurred to me that Gerrymanderer2 is actually
> Far Right troll, posting his incessant and inane
> attacks on all things conservatice, and Bush in
> particular, in order to generate more input from
> conservatives.
I don't think so. When you have so many contard trolls, it's only a matter of time before a libtard troll comes along to play.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Debbie Downer Democrat XXXX
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Date: March 10, 2014 02:43PM
Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> You right wingers are getting boring and
> repetitive even for me.
Gerry, you're being silly. The article I posted was from Bloomberg and was just posted yesterday. Instead of making your best attempt to honestly answer the question about the run up in the debt over the past 5 years, you then call us right-wingers and dodge the question?
That figures. Just another one of your moves. When you can't or won't provide an answer that will incriminate the person that you describe as the best president ever, you run and hide.
Nothing but Chicken Sh**.
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> You right wingers are getting boring and
> repetitive even for me.
Gerry, you're being silly. The article I posted was from Bloomberg and was just posted yesterday. Instead of making your best attempt to honestly answer the question about the run up in the debt over the past 5 years, you then call us right-wingers and dodge the question?
That figures. Just another one of your moves. When you can't or won't provide an answer that will incriminate the person that you describe as the best president ever, you run and hide.
Nothing but Chicken Sh**.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: March 10, 2014 02:52PM
There's nothing serious here. Blame Bush shit with a bunch of stupid pictures reflecting anger from idiots that don't have any credibility they can reference.
The deficit has dropped tremendously and we are 450 billion dollars away from a balanced budget. The American people know this. We need to close some tax loop holes and bring the effective corporate tax rate up from an unfair 12.6 percent coupled with a little bit of entitlement reform in the short term.
Such an agreement would probably bring about investment and economic stimulus as well which will put us on an even better footing.
The problem is Republicans won't negotiate on these unfair corporate tax rates. The president has talked about capping social security with chained CPI and is being attacked as we speak for cutting Medicare hundred of billions of dollars by Republicans with Obama Care.
You're not serious fucking people and all you can do is make stupid fucking title with an article about the debt and politicize what is a problem Americans are well aware of.
Without providing any solutions as usual. It's not worth the time or the effort to even engage you people.
The deficit has dropped tremendously and we are 450 billion dollars away from a balanced budget. The American people know this. We need to close some tax loop holes and bring the effective corporate tax rate up from an unfair 12.6 percent coupled with a little bit of entitlement reform in the short term.
Such an agreement would probably bring about investment and economic stimulus as well which will put us on an even better footing.
The problem is Republicans won't negotiate on these unfair corporate tax rates. The president has talked about capping social security with chained CPI and is being attacked as we speak for cutting Medicare hundred of billions of dollars by Republicans with Obama Care.
You're not serious fucking people and all you can do is make stupid fucking title with an article about the debt and politicize what is a problem Americans are well aware of.
Without providing any solutions as usual. It's not worth the time or the effort to even engage you people.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: March 10, 2014 02:59PM
The thing is you wouldn't have the balls to cut Medicare or Social Security if you had 100% power across all the branches. You still wouldn't do it. You're cowards that are unwilling to come to grips with the nations problems.
You have always used driving up the debt as the politically convenient thing to do. Whether it be waging wars and passing tax breaks at the same time and telling the American people deficits don't matter.
No one knows what a Republican wants to do about anything. No one ever knows what a Republican wants other than power.
You have always used driving up the debt as the politically convenient thing to do. Whether it be waging wars and passing tax breaks at the same time and telling the American people deficits don't matter.
No one knows what a Republican wants to do about anything. No one ever knows what a Republican wants other than power.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:02PM
And that's the last time I'm going to repeat the same shit with you Republicans with no solutions. Your thread is stupid and so are all of you.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
What?
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:06PM
I'm sorry. Can you repeat that?
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:10PM
All you have to do is look at all the Republicans attacking the president for cutting Medicare and you know they are not serious about anything and stand for nothing.
What are we doing here? Republicans are a fucking joke.
What are we doing here? Republicans are a fucking joke.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:11PM
If they have all the power in the world, they're still a joke. They have no courage to do shit.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
What?
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:11PM
I'm sorry. Can you repeat that again?
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Melinda A.
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:13PM
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
True Dat
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:14PM
In 2001, the national debt Bush inherited was around $5.7T, give or take. Some of that debt in 2001 has to be attributed to Clinton, just as some of the debt in 2009 when Obama took office has to be attributed to Bush. When W. left office in 2009, the debt was nearly $11T. That's an increase of 89 percent.
Under Obama, the debt has increased from about $11T to about $17T, about 54 percent.
And what's behind that increase? Historically low taxes and historically low revenues -- and the worst financial crash since the 1930s. There's been no "binge" in spending, as many want you to believe.
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Under Obama, the debt has increased from about $11T to about $17T, about 54 percent.
And what's behind that increase? Historically low taxes and historically low revenues -- and the worst financial crash since the 1930s. There's been no "binge" in spending, as many want you to believe.
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Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Jimmy J.
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:16PM
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:18PM
And as usual here come the stupid pictures again that we've already seen that make no sense. It's like clock work.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
gerrytardisanidiot
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:20PM
What an idiot!
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Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:22PM
seen that one too, you stole that one.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
A_Clockwork_Orange
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:23PM
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:24PM
There you go, go find a picture of a clock and write something stupid on it. At least you're taking initiative now. You win an internet. Who needs a political argument with skills like yours.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
obamaisanidiot
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:28PM
Retard!
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Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Alan Greenspan
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:28PM
I'll be damned. The deficit is going down. Even after Bush had it explode in 2009 with his tax cuts. Thank you for your leadership, Mr.President.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Obama is s dumb fuck
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:38PM
Since pictures are all you libs understand. Obunghole raised the debt more in his first 5 years than all presidents before him combined.
Yeah, woohoo. First credit rating dropped. Great job asshole!
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Yeah, woohoo. First credit rating dropped. Great job asshole!
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Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: March 10, 2014 03:45PM
Who's Ali Meyer again? Your chart is a little small.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Debbie Downer Democrat XXXX
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Date: March 10, 2014 04:46PM
Gerry,
Also, please read the WHOLE article on Bloomberg. The world's debt is $100 Trillion dollars. The $17 Trillion is just America's slice of the pie.
To put it another way, America just has a few levels on the good ship Titanic. The rest of the world occupy different floors too. When the Titanic goes down, America will go ... as well as many other countries.
Even if we stop using the dollar as the "standard" for basing all world trade on, as well as oil prices, etc., the new "standard" - be it something from China? The EU? -- will be very short-lived. It will not be the trading benchmark for very long. When the whole world goes into a depression, America will just be one of the dingleberries handing from the ass of the whole world.
However, as a final comment, I just want to add that yes, previous presidents have added to our national debt - including Bush. But, I think we have to send one final "shout out" to president Obama who has pushed the "turbo" button to increase the speed of America heading towards the cliff.
Hang on ... it's going to be a wild ride. Even the jack arse economist, Paul Krugman from the New York Times can't wiggle around this one. He can't lie about this issue to cover Obama's back like he always has. When the big one comes, Krugman will be the first to leap off of a New York high-rise.
Also, please read the WHOLE article on Bloomberg. The world's debt is $100 Trillion dollars. The $17 Trillion is just America's slice of the pie.
To put it another way, America just has a few levels on the good ship Titanic. The rest of the world occupy different floors too. When the Titanic goes down, America will go ... as well as many other countries.
Even if we stop using the dollar as the "standard" for basing all world trade on, as well as oil prices, etc., the new "standard" - be it something from China? The EU? -- will be very short-lived. It will not be the trading benchmark for very long. When the whole world goes into a depression, America will just be one of the dingleberries handing from the ass of the whole world.
However, as a final comment, I just want to add that yes, previous presidents have added to our national debt - including Bush. But, I think we have to send one final "shout out" to president Obama who has pushed the "turbo" button to increase the speed of America heading towards the cliff.
Hang on ... it's going to be a wild ride. Even the jack arse economist, Paul Krugman from the New York Times can't wiggle around this one. He can't lie about this issue to cover Obama's back like he always has. When the big one comes, Krugman will be the first to leap off of a New York high-rise.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Simpson Bolwes
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Date: March 10, 2014 04:51PM
Alan Greenspan Wrote:
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> I'll be damned. The deficit is going down. Even
> after Bush had it explode in 2009 with his tax
> cuts. Thank you for your leadership,
> Mr.President.
>
>
Don't show this to Gerry, he still thinks Obama's doing a great job on budget deficits.
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> I'll be damned. The deficit is going down. Even
> after Bush had it explode in 2009 with his tax
> cuts. Thank you for your leadership,
> Mr.President.
>
>
Don't show this to Gerry, he still thinks Obama's doing a great job on budget deficits.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
wrongg
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Date: March 10, 2014 05:00PM
Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> All you have to do is look at all the Republicans
> attacking the president for cutting Medicare and
> you know they are not serious about anything and
> stand for nothing.
>
> What are we doing here? Republicans are a fucking
> joke.
Cutting medicare to fund Obamacare failure.
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> All you have to do is look at all the Republicans
> attacking the president for cutting Medicare and
> you know they are not serious about anything and
> stand for nothing.
>
> What are we doing here? Republicans are a fucking
> joke.
Cutting medicare to fund Obamacare failure.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Debbie Downer Democrat XXXX
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Date: March 10, 2014 05:08PM
wrongg Wrote:
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>
>
> Cutting medicare to fund Obamacare failure.
You mean that $716 Billion dollar theft of funds from Medicare to fund Obamacare? That same $716 Billion dollars that Mitt Romney mentioned during the campaign and where Mitt was called a liar? That same money?
Even the Washington Post was able to pick up on that one:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/08/14/romneys-right-obamacare-cuts-medicare-by-716-billion-heres-how/
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>
>
> Cutting medicare to fund Obamacare failure.
You mean that $716 Billion dollar theft of funds from Medicare to fund Obamacare? That same $716 Billion dollars that Mitt Romney mentioned during the campaign and where Mitt was called a liar? That same money?
Even the Washington Post was able to pick up on that one:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/08/14/romneys-right-obamacare-cuts-medicare-by-716-billion-heres-how/
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
BelowMe.
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Date: March 10, 2014 06:34PM
Debbie Downer Democrat XXXX Wrote:
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> wrongg Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > Cutting medicare to fund Obamacare failure.
>
>
> You mean that $716 Billion dollar theft of funds
> from Medicare to fund Obamacare? That same $716
> Billion dollars that Mitt Romney mentioned during
> the campaign and where Mitt was called a liar?
> That same money?
>
> Even the Washington Post was able to pick up on
> that one:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/20
> 12/08/14/romneys-right-obamacare-cuts-medicare-by-
> 716-billion-heres-how/
You've lost every political argument you've engaged in on FFXU.
Maybe its time for a new gig.
They're hiring bag boys and cart retrievers at Safeway and Giant.
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> wrongg Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > Cutting medicare to fund Obamacare failure.
>
>
> You mean that $716 Billion dollar theft of funds
> from Medicare to fund Obamacare? That same $716
> Billion dollars that Mitt Romney mentioned during
> the campaign and where Mitt was called a liar?
> That same money?
>
> Even the Washington Post was able to pick up on
> that one:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/20
> 12/08/14/romneys-right-obamacare-cuts-medicare-by-
> 716-billion-heres-how/
You've lost every political argument you've engaged in on FFXU.
Maybe its time for a new gig.
They're hiring bag boys and cart retrievers at Safeway and Giant.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Debbie Downer Democrat XXXX
()
Date: March 10, 2014 09:22PM
BelowMe. Wrote:
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>
> You've lost every political argument you've
> engaged in on FFXU.
> Maybe its time for a new gig.
>
> They're hiring bag boys and cart retrievers at
> Safeway and Giant.
What political argument have I lost? Did you read the Washington Post article at the link I provided? I don't think I lost this one. What a troll you are. water carrier for the Liberals.
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>
> You've lost every political argument you've
> engaged in on FFXU.
> Maybe its time for a new gig.
>
> They're hiring bag boys and cart retrievers at
> Safeway and Giant.
What political argument have I lost? Did you read the Washington Post article at the link I provided? I don't think I lost this one. What a troll you are. water carrier for the Liberals.
Re: Who Should we Blame? Bush?
Posted by:
Debbie Downer Democrat XXXX
()
Date: March 10, 2014 09:22PM
BelowMe. Wrote:
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>
> You've lost every political argument you've
> engaged in on FFXU.
> Maybe its time for a new gig.
>
> They're hiring bag boys and cart retrievers at
> Safeway and Giant.
What political argument have I lost? Did you read the Washington Post article at the link I provided? I don't think I lost this one. What a troll you are. water carrier for the Liberals.
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>
> You've lost every political argument you've
> engaged in on FFXU.
> Maybe its time for a new gig.
>
> They're hiring bag boys and cart retrievers at
> Safeway and Giant.
What political argument have I lost? Did you read the Washington Post article at the link I provided? I don't think I lost this one. What a troll you are. water carrier for the Liberals.