Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs - A group of teenagers in Ukraine that murdered 21 people in a four week period. They decided to tape their killings.

http://www.ohlookaforum.com/sick-vids-f21/dnepropetrovsk-maniacs-ukraine-murder-video-guys-hammer-3guys1hammer-t102.html

Half way down on the page is the taping of them finishing a guy off with a hammer. Needless to say, don't watch it if you are squeamish.



English translation of what the killers are saying:

“Hold on, hold on. Be neater, fuck!” likely saying that to watch out for the blood.
*Laughing*
“Hold on, hold on, hold on, don’t hit him, don’t hit him. Watch him…” the rest of the sentence is indistinct, but he’s likely telling the guy to watch for the blood as he’s zooming in to capture the close up
The following audio is unclear.
[After the screwdriver stabbing]
“What? With what?” as the cameraman responds to the boy who stabs the victim
“What, he’s still alive?” says the guy stabbing the victim
“He’s still moving his arms after I ripped up his intestines” the cameraman muffles indistinctly
“He’s having a fucked up day” says the stabbing guy after he’d stepped on his stomach.
[More muffled talk as he proceeds to stab him in the eyes with the screwdriver]
“Get over here fast. Kill him already.”
“What?” says the stabber
“Kill him already.”
“I already put the hammer back. He’s already dead.”
“I poked out his eyes and he’s still not dead” says the cameraman
“Get the knife” cameraman continues
*Proceeds to bludgeon him then interrupts by saying something indistinct*
“More, more” cameraman telling the other guy to keep bludgeoning him to make sure he’s dead
“Hold on, hold on”
*They start walking back to the car*
More muffled talk from the blond killer
“Wash your hands” cameraman says and tells him to spray cleaning chemical on the hammer
“I’ll hold it”
*Muffled talk from the guy washing the hammer*
*More muffled talk from the guy washing his face and walking back from his car*
“I stuck the screwdriver in his brain” says the camera man
*Muffled talk from the guy washing his hands*
“I got him in the nose from his eye” or something along those lines
“I don’t understand how he was alive? I felt his brain” says the camera man
“I was holding the screw driver like this *muffled/don’t understand*”
Before the video ends the blond guy says “Alright, let’s get a picture”

Wow... This ruined my day... This makes me sad.

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This is nothing. At least these guys have a reason for thier actions (nuts/sexually challenged). In some third world countries the ruling parties regularly go on 'Ethnic Cleansing' missions. This is virgin shit compared to these places.

Also, YOU ARE HUMAN TOO eesh.

Yeah somehow it does put a mental damper on you. I can almost feel that screwdriver wiggling around in my skull, scrambling my brains.

It can always get worse, yeah there are the rapes and ethnic cleansing that seem to be the norm in sub-Saharan nations......but still, Ukraine is a pretty civil and modern nation. For three teenagers to just decide one day to make kill people for the thrill of it, and kill so many in such a short time, shocker.

And they have gotten a lot of attention for it... Who knows how many people they inspired to document their own killing spree?

eesh Wrote:
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> For three
> teenagers to just decide one day to make kill
> people for the thrill of it, and kill so many in
> such a short time, shocker.

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I saw this a year or so ago. It's the only video I've ever encountered that I am incapable of watching the whole way through. His ragged gasps for air, the sickly moans... I tuned out when they went at his face with a screwdriver.

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That's EXACTLY how far I got before I turned it off... His labored, gurgly, breathing was just too much...

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I saw this a year or so ago. It's the only video
> I've ever encountered that I am incapable of
> watching the whole way through. His ragged gasps
> for air, the sickly moans... I tuned out when they
> went at his face with a screwdriver.

Signatures are for fags

Based upon the video's description in the initial post coupled with Mephisto's comment about it...I have no desire to watch that. Without seeing it, and it's probably as disgusting/disturbing as I'm imagining it - who here wouldn't agree to the old "eye for an eye" type of punishment?

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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.

That reminds me, I have some hamburger I need to put on the grill. Medium rare, yum yum

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I think we have to go a little further with that, and say a 'brain for a brain'. Betchya these loons would get real religious in jail if they knew THIER FATE, was going to be the SAME as thier VICTIMS.

Warhawk Wrote:
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> Based upon the video's description in the initial
> post coupled with Mephisto's comment about it...I
> have no desire to watch that. Without seeing it,
> and it's probably as disgusting/disturbing as I'm
> imagining it - who here wouldn't agree to the old
> "eye for an eye" type of punishment?


No, no one should stoop to their level. They need to be locked up and studied in a mental institution so this sort of thing can be stopped in the future.


Like I said, Ukraine isn't Africa where lots of people have been raped or been forced into being a child soldier at some point. This is a modern, decent country.

Studied??? What are you some Liberal looking for a special interest fund to funnel out of? You don't 'study' these LUNATICS, and you don't house them for the rest of thier lives. YOU GIVE THIER LIVES THE SAME CONSIDERATION THEY GAVE THIER VICTIMS!

AND MOST IMPOTANTLY, YOU MUST SEND THEM TO HELL WHERE THE LIKES OF THESE COWARDS BELONG...as FAST as possible. Heck I'm sure the family wouldn't mind taking care of them if it's too much of a problem for someone.

Also, it's called CRIME AND PUNISHMENT.

The EXAMPLE YOU SET WITH THE PUNISHMENT IS ALL YOU NEED FOR FUTURE DETERENCE.

No 'Studies' or FDA approval required.

I have to agree with eesh, Warhawk. That is part of the reason I was so saddened by the video. My initial reaction was anger... I just wanted to beat the shit out of those little kids and "give them a taste of their own medicine"... But then I realized the outcome would still be another death...

I don't know what needs to happen to those kids... All I know is that no one deserves to go out like that.

Warhawk Wrote:
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> who here wouldn't agree to the old
> "eye for an eye" type of punishment?

Signatures are for fags

Correct that's why you make an example out of them, they were kids? As in under 18? If so then maybe a significant time of thier lives incarcerated might be a workable option, but it better be a good portion not just until they hit 21 then bye bye birdie. Also if it was adults, then sorry Harry, DEATH IS AN OPTION.

And if they were like 16 or seventeen teetering on some technicality, then with the maliciousness and violence associated with thier particular crime, they should be tried as adults and thier burden be lifted off the shoulders of society and the taxpayers.

They were all in their late teens.

As you can see from their expressions in court, they have no remorse or emotions to speak of.

Looking at the pics from the Ukrainian news, this was House of 1000 Corpses type shit. These kids put American serial killers to shame.






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/06/2010 07:05PM by eesh.

Believe me, I understand the death penalty philosophy. One (or three) less murderer(s) to worry about in our society... Less mouth(s) to feed... Less space to take up.

But, really, why is killing OK only some of the time? Why is it OK for some but not all?

& A. Wrote:
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> And if they were like 16 or seventeen teetering on
> some technicality, then with the maliciousness and
> violence associated with thier particular crime,
> they should be tried as adults and thier burden be
> lifted off the shoulders of society and the
> taxpayers.

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Their parents are probably from Pripyat, deformed babies and all.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> Believe me, I understand the death penalty
> philosophy. One (or three) less murderer(s) to
> worry about in our society... Less mouth(s) to
> feed... Less space to take up.
>
> But, really, why is killing OK only some of the
> time? Why is it OK for some but not all?
>
> & A. Wrote:
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> -----
> > And if they were like 16 or seventeen teetering
> on
> > some technicality, then with the maliciousness
> and
> > violence associated with thier particular
> crime,
> > they should be tried as adults and thier burden
> be
> > lifted off the shoulders of society and the
> > taxpayers.


Killing is ok in self-defense, or in the carrying out of a judicial process regarding an individual actually guilty of murder. Murder on the other hand, is when someone was killed for no reason (ie, There was no reason to believe that the taking of a life was required, or necessary). I think most would agree that it's okay to shoot a terrorist dead, or someone breaking into your home, but that it's wrong for some mugger to clip an old lady simply because he wanted her wallet. The two former examples represent a necessary level of defense in being able to secure ones sanctity and security, whereas the latter is representative of a maliciousness which has no justifiable purpose whatsoever.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

If it was something like the VA Tech shootings, yes, or the rape and murder of a child, yes there should be the death penalty.

However these kids are on another level that goes beyond your garden variety sicko. They need to be studied and kept in an institution for their entire lives. Understanding how someone develops into such a cruel and wanton person is important.

any more of these videos?
they're hilarious, nothing like all that gay hollywood crap all of you john wayne faggots love.

I'll give it to you on the self-defense issue... because there is an urgency that leads to the mentality of "kill or be killed"... But I don't see that same urgency, or necessity, to kill out of revenge, or through judicial processes.

As far as killing the terrorist... It would be ok, in my eyes, to kill if that terrorist was in the act of lethal terrorism and there was no other way to stop him.

Killing should be a last resort...

I'm still bothered by the apparent contradictions of the belief that sometimes it's ok to kill, while other times it is not... I'm even more bothered that I seem to share this contradictory belief.

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> Killing is ok in self-defense, or in the carrying
> out of a judicial process regarding an individual
> actually guilty of murder. Murder on the other
> hand, is when someone was killed for no reason
> (ie, There was no reason to believe that the
> taking of a life was required, or necessary). I
> think most would agree that it's okay to shoot a
> terrorist dead, or someone breaking into your
> home, but that it's wrong for some mugger to clip
> an old lady simply because he wanted her wallet.
> The two former examples represent a necessary
> level of defense in being able to secure ones
> sanctity and security, whereas the latter is
> representative of a maliciousness which has no
> justifiable purpose whatsoever.

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Summarily executed upon positive identification that they're the people in the video. Dead and done. I am a huge supporter of the legal system, and I believe that some people can be rehabilitated, but all of that is for people who commit crimes.

I'm not going to dehumanize them by calling them "animals." What they did exemplifies the very worst of mankind, and they should be removed from the game immediately.

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> But, really, why is killing OK only some of the
> time? Why is it OK for some but not all?

Killing is OK as long as everybody agrees that killing is OK. When everyone agrees, it's "war" or "the death penalty." When everyone disagrees, it's "murder."

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/06/2010 07:42PM by MrMephisto.

eesh Wrote:
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> They need to be
> studied and kept in an institution for their
> entire lives. Understanding how someone develops
> into such a cruel and wanton person is important.

Invasive surgery (to hook up electrodes in their brain or something, I don't know) and dissection are the only things that would yield any sort of usable data. You can't really believe anything a psychopath says. Even people abused by their parents and molested by their priest don't do what these kids did.

Then, there's the possibility of them killing other inmates, institution staff, or others that don't go around feeling hobo brains with a screwdriver.

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I just watched the video, and I could never do that crap to someone, no matter how much I hated them. I could break some fool's limbs, or shoot a bastard (If it was necessary), but to be able to toy with someone in this manner, and torture them? Wtf is wrong with people? This is right up there with the Taliban/Al-Qaeda evil.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> This is right up there
> with the Taliban/Al-Qaeda evil.

Worse. They line people up against the wall and shoot them, or cut off their heads. They don't get a boner from torturing a guy with a hammer.

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OK, so maybe an "eye for an eye" isn't applicable because to torture these "people" in a similar fashion would make us no better. But you've got them on videotape. You make a positive ID and take them out back and put a bullet in their head. Don't waste a minute and a dime keeping them alive - they don't deserve shit. Dead, done and resources better spent somewhere else.

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Warhawk Wrote:
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> OK, so maybe an "eye for an eye" isn't applicable
> because to torture these "people" in a similar
> fashion would make us no better. But you've got
> them on videotape. You make a positive ID and
> take them out back and put a bullet in their head.
> Don't waste a minute and a dime keeping them
> alive - they don't deserve shit. Dead, done and
> resources better spent somewhere else.

Preach it, brother.

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Short, Sweet, and 2 the Point.


Nicely done Mr. Warhawk

So you're arguing for a relative morality?

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Killing is OK as long as everybody agrees that
> killing is OK. When everyone agrees, it's "war"
> or "the death penalty." When everyone disagrees,
> it's "murder."

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Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> So you're arguing for a relative morality?




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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> So you're arguing for a relative morality?

Isn't all morality relative? The mother that wouldn't otherwise harm a fly would kill someone who threatens her child. Even the laws support murder in self-defense.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Isn't all morality relative?

I wouldn't go so far as to say ALL morality is relative... That belief could enable a person to do anything they wanted... I'd like to think that some things are universally "wrong"...

The mother that
> wouldn't otherwise harm a fly would kill someone
> who threatens her child. Even the laws support
> murder in self-defense.

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Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> I wouldn't go so far as to say ALL morality is
> relative...

I would. I am a non-violent, mostly pacifistic person. But if the gun was held to the heads of these two, and nobody else in the entire world was willing to pull the trigger, I would.

Many people who would never even entertain the idea of killing another person would do so in self-defense. Why? Because it was necessary.

> That belief could enable a person to
> do anything they wanted...

The belief does nothing. The same people who believed in a kind and loving God and that Jesus died for their sins thought it was a great idea to go kill a bunch of Muslims during the Crusades. It's the choices we make, and the consequences of them, that matter.

> I'd like to think that
> some things are universally "wrong"...

I think some things are, even though that might be contradictory to my previous statements. Child rape, torturing a guy with a screwdriver and a hammer... these are unforgivable acts as far as I'm concerned. I'd bet there are people that would probably agree with me on that.

Then again, people would also agree with me that these two need to be put down.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> The mother that
> wouldn't otherwise harm a fly would kill someone
> who threatens her child.

I'd become a raving lunatic and kill anyone who harmed my child. I'd jump up in a court room and shoot the piece of garbage.

Tomorrow, I'm setting up my hummingbird feeders.

Alias has killed in the past but never got caught.

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> > I wouldn't go so far as to say ALL morality is
> > relative...
>
> I would. I am a non-violent, mostly pacifistic
> person. But if the gun was held to the heads of
> these two, and nobody else in the entire world was
> willing to pull the trigger, I would.

Ok... but that doesn't really prove your point... If everyone in the world, except you, thought it was wrong to pull the trigger, then your pulling the trigger would be relatively immoral... How would you be any different than the people you are pulling the trigger on?

>
> Many people who would never even entertain the
> idea of killing another person would do so in
> self-defense. Why? Because it was necessary.

That is the grey-area that I acknowledged... It, apparently, flies in the face of the whole "killing is wrong" school of thought... The same school of thought that I was admittedly bothered by agreeing with. How do you define necessary? Is anything really necessary? If morality is relative, then how can a normally moral person, like yourself, allow themself to do pull the trigger when nobody else would?

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fag it Wrote:
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> Alias has killed in the past but never got caught.

Would you like to see my collection of authentic American Indian antique buffalo bone jewelry?

That is pure fucking evil. I can't watch that shit, but those dudes had NO remorse. Wow.

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Being vague is almost as fun as that other thing.

Naah, don't give them the death penalty. Round up them and all other people who commit capital crimes and give them to the pharmaceutical companies. Let them do human testing of their products on these new "volunteers".

Our knowledge of genetics would take a massive leap forward. That would serve the greater good far more than just executing these dicks.

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> Ok... but that doesn't really prove your point...
> If everyone in the world, except you, thought it
> was wrong to pull the trigger, then your pulling
> the trigger would be relatively immoral... How
> would you be any different than the people you are
> pulling the trigger on?

I was making an assumption that everyone agreed that they should die, but nobody was willing to do it. My relative morality would allow, in this specific circumstance, to violate my "don't kill people" policy. If everyone wanted them to live, then I wouldn't do the killing, though I'd still think they need to be ejected from life.

> That is the grey-area that I acknowledged... It,
> apparently, flies in the face of the whole
> "killing is wrong" school of thought... The same
> school of thought that I was admittedly bothered
> by agreeing with. How do you define necessary? Is
> anything really necessary? If morality is
> relative, then how can a normally moral person,
> like yourself, allow themself to do pull the
> trigger when nobody else would?

When it's necessary is up to the individual. Whether it was right or not is up to everyone else.

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BUMP



http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2987700/Teacher-tried-to-warn-a-mother-her-baby-was-suffering-from-sunburn.html


Shocked Alex Coulson said he saw the attractive blonde day-tripper holding the boy as she walked along the beach.

He added: "The baby was clearly very sunburnt. He was naked and very, very red and I was concerned enough to walk up to her.

"Another woman got there first and was trying to tell her to get the baby covered up and in the shade but she didn't seem to understand what we were saying to her.

"I pointed to blisters that were forming on the boy's leg and was saying, 'sunburn, sunburn' - but she didn't get it. I think she may have been Eastern European."

This is a new one that should be making its way round the web. I just saw it today and it kinda reminded me of the Ukraine kids.

Watch as the guy filming does absolutely nothing to help this poor guy.

Numbers Wrote:
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> This is a new one that should be making its way
> round the web. I just saw it today and it kinda
> reminded me of the Ukraine kids.
>
> Watch as the guy filming does absolutely nothing
> to help this poor guy.
>
>



Kinda like the guy cut in half and everyone just stands around staring at him. I thought the guy on fire was one of those people that kill themselves by immolation in China, but it is from Guatemala. Bizarre.

Blessed are the murderous.

I imagine people stood around and did nothing because they didn't want to be next.

These kids are not mentally unstable, they just do not care about human life. They think that the laws of human decency do not apply to them and think they can do what ever they want. I say "kill 'em all and let God sort it out!". Now the mom who just recently killed her two year old son and ate his brain is mentally unstable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2041673/French-farmer-tied-elderly-woman-ladder-dismembered-alive-jailed-life.html

A French farmer who bound an elderly German woman to a ladder before sawing off her limbs while she was still alive has been sentenced to life in prison.

Yves Bureau was found guilty of torturing and murdering Edith Muhr at his farmhouse in Verdon in the Dordogne region of France.

Bureau laughed and joked when macabre photos of Mrs Muhr's remains were shown on a large screen at his trial.


Despite her pleas, he attached her arms and legs to a ladder leaning against a wall next to an old tractor and began by cutting off her fingers one by one .

Using butcher’s knives and a meat cleaver Bureau then cut off her arms and legs.

Bureau later revealed under questioning that the victim was still alive when the defendant beheaded her with the cleaver.

Necklacing of a suspected homosexual in some African country, probably Uganda.

eesh Wrote:
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> If it was something like the VA Tech shootings,
> yes, or the rape and murder of a child, yes there
> should be the death penalty.
>
> However these kids are on another level that goes
> beyond your garden variety sicko. They need to be
> studied and kept in an institution for their
> entire lives. Understanding how someone develops
> into such a cruel and wanton person is important.
Attachments:

HORRIBLE RAZOR BLADE BEHEADING OF A FACELESS MAN IN AGONY

http://theync.com/razor-blade-beheading.htm

https://forum.deathaddict.com/showthread.php?3911-Shocking-Rival-Gang-Member-Flayed-Tortured-and-Throat-Slit


Video download:

https://forum.deathaddict.com/attachment.php?s=ac29b767b5536d4cdb0a982c972719e7&attachmentid=8004&d=1474921775