...Because Hillary and her team made such an intense effort to swing these particular lawmakers in the final months of the campaign, they are the first names that spring to mind when Hillary’s aides talk about who stuck a knife in her back and twisted it.

For Balderston, the betrayal of Jim Moran, the congressman from Alexandria, Virginia, was perhaps the most personal. The two men were social friends in the Del Ray neighborhood of Alexandria, about six miles from campaign headquarters. They were even in the same book club.

For months Balderston had casually pressed Moran about his endorsement. Moran played coy. He praised Hillary but came up short of promising an endorsement. Then in January 2008, Moran left a voice message for Balderston: I’m all in for Hillary, he said.

Naturally, Balderston was excited. The courtship of delegates hadn’t been going well, and adding a new name to Hillary’s column was welcome news. But Balderston’s joy was short-lived.

“What the fuck?” he exclaimed a couple of weeks later as he read the news that Moran was set to endorse Obama. He called the congressman, his old chum from the neighborhood. “Do not ever call me again!” Balderston said. He stopped going to the book club.

(Referring to Balderston’s version of events, Moran told the authors, “It’s an accurate account. But we’re friends again and I plan on making it up to him in the 2016 campaign since I’ve always been in love with Hillary.”

Moran added that, in 2008, “I simply thought that, given the opportunity, it was too important that this country elect an inspiring black president.”

Anyone who voted for him because he's half black is an idiot. Anyone who voted for him who thought he would somehow change the world in a postive way was a fool. I got a lot of shit for NOT voting for him and only now are people seeing their mistake.

If Obama had not won both of those elections this country would be ruined by now. Ruined by either John Mccain and Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan. Either way, you're ass would have been fucked.

Thank your lucky stars that your ungrateful degenerate idiotic blind motherfuckers were able to benefit from a president that stabilized your economic, fiscal and foreign policy situations.

You filthy fucking rats.

Your*

But, unlike you, I'd still know the difference between "you're" and "your."

They put up John Mccain and Sarah fucking Palin and they're wondering why people voted for Obama. The bitch would have been a Mccain heart beat away from the nuclear trigger. Unfuckinbelievable.

And they think we're the stupid ones. An old trigger happy fuck that would have Joe Lieberman as the Secretary of defense and who would have outsourced our foreign policy to Bibi Netanyahu. A motherfucker that was singing songs about bombing Iran on the campaign trail while the financial crisis was peaking.

You motherfuckers are some stupid ass pieces of worthless shit and a existential threat to this country through your sheer stupidity.

TL;DR

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> They put up John Mccain and Sarah fucking Palin
> and they're wondering why people voted for Obama.
> The bitch would have been a Mccain heart beat away
> blah blah blah
> blah blah blah
> more off-topic bullshit
> blah blah


What does that have to do with Moran admitting that he voted for the black guy because he was the black guy?

You fucking nominated Sarah Palin as Vice President with some feeble war survivor formally tortured crazy old cancer surviving John Mccain.

You want to talk about the nominating process and making responsible decisions. You people are completely out of your fucking minds.

The bitch thought she could see Russia from her house.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You fucking nominated Sarah Palin as Vice
> President with some feeble war survivor formally
> tortured crazy old cancer surviving John Mccain.
>
>
> You want to talk about the nominating process and
> making responsible decisions. You people are
> completely out of your fucking minds.
>
> The bitch thought she could see Russia from her
> house.


Claim: During the 2008 presidential campaign, Sarah Palin said: "I can see Russia from my house."

FALSE

Origins: Paradoxically, one of the common features of catch phrases associated with famous figures (both real and fictional) is that those phrases do not reflect statements actually made by the people with whom they're associated. For years, impersonators merely had to utter the lines "Judy, Judy, Judy" or "Come with me to the Casbah," and listeners immediately knew they were portraying actors Cary Grant and Charles Boyer, respectively, though neither man ever delivered such a line in any of his roles. Likewise, the phrase most indelibly associated with the fictional character of Sherlock Holmes, "Elementary, my dear Watson," appeared in none of the original works authored by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

So it is that one of the quotes most strongly associated with former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin is the exclamation "I can see Russia from my house!" even though she didn't actually utter that phrase during the campaign.

The basis for the line was Governor Palin's 11 September 2008 appearance on ABC News, her first major interview after being tapped as the vice-presidential nominee. During that appearance, interviewer Charles Gibson asked her what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska":

Two days later, on the 2008 season premiere of Saturday Night Live, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler appeared in a sketch portraying Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton, during which Fey spoofed Governor Palin's remark of a few days earlier with the following exchange:
FEY AS PALIN: "You know, Hillary and I don't agree on everything . . ."

POEHLER AS CLINTON: (OVERLAPPING) "Anything. I believe that diplomacy should be the cornerstone of any foreign policy."

FEY AS PALIN: "And I can see Russia from my house."

Read more at

http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/seealaska.asp#2M8cuBVrOqiZ8gSc.99


But, again, what does your standard attempt to deflect have to do with Moran admitting that he supported the black guy just for being black?

You're right, I'm wrong about Sarah Palin. She would of made a great commander and chief. I hope your only refuting that statement which I will concede was an exaggeration by Tina Fey. Because if you're disputing whether Sarah Palin was an impending danger to this country. There's a lot of information to suggest the contrary.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You're right, I'm wrong about Sarah Palin. She
> would of made a great commander and chief. I hope
> your only refuting that statement which I will
> concede was an exaggeration by Tina Fey. Because
> if you're disputing whether Sarah Palin was an
> impending danger to this country. There's a lot
> of information to suggest the contrary.


What does that have to do with Moran admitting that he supported the black guy for being black again?

Yet Another Gerry Failz Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You fucking nominated Sarah Palin as Vice
> > President with some feeble war survivor
> formally
> > tortured crazy old cancer surviving John Mccain.
>
> >
> >
> > You want to talk about the nominating process
> and
> > making responsible decisions. You people are
> > completely out of your fucking minds.
> >
> > The bitch thought she could see Russia from her
> > house.
>
>
> Claim: During the 2008 presidential campaign,
> Sarah Palin said: "I can see Russia from my
> house."
>
> FALSE
>
> Origins: Paradoxically, one of the common
> features of catch phrases associated with famous
> figures (both real and fictional) is that those
> phrases do not reflect statements actually made by
> the people with whom they're associated. For
> years, impersonators merely had to utter the lines
> "Judy, Judy, Judy" or "Come with me to the
> Casbah," and listeners immediately knew they were
> portraying actors Cary Grant and Charles Boyer,
> respectively, though neither man ever delivered
> such a line in any of his roles. Likewise, the
> phrase most indelibly associated with the
> fictional character of Sherlock Holmes,
> "Elementary, my dear Watson," appeared in none of
> the original works authored by Sir Arthur Conan
> Doyle.
>
> So it is that one of the quotes most strongly
> associated with former Alaska governor and 2008
> Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin
> is the exclamation "I can see Russia from my
> house!" even though she didn't actually utter that
> phrase during the campaign.
>
> The basis for the line was Governor Palin's 11
> September 2008 appearance on ABC News, her first
> major interview after being tapped as the
> vice-presidential nominee. During that appearance,
> interviewer Charles Gibson asked her what insight
> she had gained from living so close to Russia, and
> she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors,
> and you can actually see Russia from land here in
> Alaska, from an island in Alaska":
>
> Two days later, on the 2008 season premiere of
> Saturday Night Live, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler
> appeared in a sketch portraying Sarah Palin and
> Hillary Clinton, during which Fey spoofed Governor
> Palin's remark of a few days earlier with the
> following exchange:
> FEY AS PALIN: "You know, Hillary and I don't agree
> on everything . . ."
>
> POEHLER AS CLINTON: (OVERLAPPING) "Anything. I
> believe that diplomacy should be the cornerstone
> of any foreign policy."
>
> FEY AS PALIN: "And I can see Russia from my
> house."
>
> Read more at
>
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/seealaska.asp
> #2M8cuBVrOqiZ8gSc.99
>
>
> But, again, what does your standard attempt to
> deflect have to do with Moran admitting that he
> supported the black guy just for being black?


Wait... is someone actually standing up for... Sarah Palin?

Would hit, but the bitch is fucking nuts and even she knows it.

Well the OP was making reference to Jim Moran's quote and was falsely trying to suggest that Jim Moran endorsed Obama "solely" due to the color of his skin. When Jim Moran may have made a statement about that historical aspect of it having some effect on his decision.

With that said, I also wanted to take this opportunity to point out the horrendous irresponsibility Republicans have proven to have not just in whom they endorse but whom they nominate to be leaders of the free world.

Rockhound Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> Wait... is someone actually standing up for...
> Sarah Palin?
>
> Would hit, but the bitch is fucking nuts and even
> she knows it.


Not a question of standing up for her. Just the fact of the matter. Gotta keep Gerry honest when he goes off on one of his usual attempts at deflection.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Well the OP was making reference to Jim Moran's
> quote and was falsely trying to suggest that Jim
> Moran endorsed Obama "solely" due to the color of
> his skin. When Jim Moran may have made a
> statement about that historical aspect of it
> having some effect on his decision.
>
> With that said, I also wanted to take this
> opportunity to point out the horrendous
> irresponsibility Republicans have proven to have
> not just in whom they endorse but whom they
> nominate to be leaders of the free world.


Moran added that, in 2008, “I simply thought that, given the opportunity, it was too important that this country elect an inspiring black president.”

^ See any other reasons in there?

And it was versus Hillary not a Republican dumbass. I guess he didn't think that, given the opportunity, it wasn't time yet for an inspiring woman President huh? lol

Here's some trivia, who said this:

"As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border."

or this:

"Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers"

or this, lol:

"If we were really domestic terrorists, President Obama would want to be palling around with us."

and this:

"He who warned, uh, the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."

"But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies."

And then finally, when she made up a word "refudiate"

"Ground Zero Mosque supporters: doesn't it stab you in the heart, as it does ours throughout the heartland? Peaceful Muslims, pls refudiate."

Can you post a link to the article in question please OP.

I would like a link to the article this thread is about.

Moran added in bold letters? “I simply thought that, given the opportunity, it was too important that this country elect an inspiring black president.”

Where's the portion of the article that he points to the statement before he added that statement which you put into bold letters?

And then to reference your own cut and paste and hatchet misrepresentation and suggest that was Moran's primary reason is just shameful.

Post the fucking link you lying piece of shit.

i'll find the fucking link, give me a second.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/195188-hillarys-hit-list

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> More irrelevant deflection.
>


Doesn't really surprise me that Jim believes that black men are more capable than white women.

I mean after his past wife beating and all. Apparently taught his son to follow in his footsteps.

What kind of shitty stupid right wing source is this? We're supposed to go by this crap?

Can you stop sourcing what amounts to right wing blogs.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I would like a link to the article this thread is
> about.


You won't like it.

It's about what a vindictive old bitch Hillary is. lol

Have some fucking standards when you create a thread.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> What kind of shitty stupid right wing source is
> this? We're supposed to go by this crap?
>
> Can you stop sourcing what amounts to right wing
> blogs.


'Your' a dumbfuck. lol

The Hill's article is a cross-post of the article at Politico.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/01/hillary-clinton-hit-list-102067.html

It's an excerpt from a book by Jonathan Allen, senior Washington correspondent at Politico, and Amie Parnes, White House correspondent at The Hill who also writes for Politico. Neither of which are "right wing bloggers."

Quote

Jonathan Allen is POLITICO’s senior Washington correspondent and focuses his reporting on the nexus of politics and policy. He is a winner of the National Press Foundation’s Everett McKinley Dirksen Award for Distinguished Reporting of Congress and the National Press Club’s Sandy Hume Award for Excellence in Political Journalism. A graduate of the University of Maryland, Allen was born in Silver Spring, Md., and lives in Washington, D.C., with his wife, son and daughter. He frequently speaks to groups about politics and journalism, teaches a class on presidential politics at Northwestern University and appears as a guest analyst on national television and local radio programs.

As far as Parnes goes, she was/is a devout Obama fangurl...

http://dailycaller.com/2011/02/28/michelle-obama%E2%80%99s-press-agent-politico-reporter-accused-of-flacking-for-first-lady/

Doh!

Now, back to Moran supporting the black guy...

You guys really focus on the issues that matter in here. It is so motivational and inspiring.

Rockhound Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You guys really focus on the issues that matter in
> here. It is so motivational and inspiring.


It would be a lot more focused if Gerry didn't constantly go off on tangents trying to defend the party line.

Focused on what? Whether Jim Moran endorsed Obama because he was black? I know its reassuring to your interpretation of history. I know its comforting to gather and reconcile one another in racist delusions but I mean doesn't it get a little old?

Okay, Jim Moran endorsed him because he was black. How much can you beat that one horse?

A couple of people will call Jim Moran an Anti Semite nigger lover that wanted a Hussien in the White House.

Then a couple more people would say that black son of a bitch is the worst president this country has ever had and it serves the country right for voting for a Silverback.

But once the general progressions of such a thread are completed, it will be just like one of hundreds of more just like it on FFXU. "Focused" debates he says derailed by my tangents.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Focused on what? Whether Jim Moran endorsed Obama
> because he was black? I know its reassuring to
> your interpretation of history. I know its
> comforting to gather and reconcile one another in
> racist delusions but I mean doesn't it get a
> little old?


My interpretation of history?

It's a fucking quote...

From Moran...

Saying specifically that he supported Obama over Hillary because he was black.

lmao


>
> Okay, Jim Moran endorsed him because he was black.
> How much can you beat that one horse?
>
> A couple of people will call Jim Moran an Anti
> Semite nigger lover that wanted a Hussien in the
> White House.
>
> Then a couple more people would say that black son
> of a bitch is the worst president this country has
> ever had and it serves the country right for
> voting for a Silverback.
>
> But once the general progressions of such a thread
> are completed, it will be just like one of
> hundreds of more just like it on FFXU. "Focused"
> debates he says derailed by my tangents.


So, after all of your denials and blaming it on right wing bloggers, now you admit that Moran supported Obama because he was black?

You're a dumbass but you're entertaining stupid at times. lol

At least Gerry has integrity and isn't so nit-picky or immature like lots of the right wing trolls. I might disagree with him on things 9 times out of 10 but I respect the man for sticking up for what he believes in and (trying to) maintain an intelligent, comprehensive discourse.

I also think he is right when he says that these threads are just made to be a pity party racist-fest for those same right wing trolls. Gerry, I think you'd do better to just leave these threads alone, though.

I think both sides would do well to try to debate things more rationally and not just disagree with someone because of who they are and your past interactions with them.

Change starts with you. If you want to see things get better for us, the American society, you can start with yourself.

Rockhound Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> At least Gerry has integrity and isn't so
> nit-picky or immature like lots of the right wing
> trolls. I might disagree with him on things 9
> times out of 10 but I respect the man for sticking
> up for what he believes in and (trying to)
> maintain an intelligent, comprehensive discourse.
>
>
> I also think he is right when he says that these
> threads are just made to be a pity party
> racist-fest for those same right wing trolls.
> Gerry, I think you'd do better to just leave these
> threads alone, though.
>
> I think both sides would do well to try to debate
> things more rationally and not just disagree with
> someone because of who they are and your past
> interactions with them.
>
> Change starts with you. If you want to see things
> get better for us, the American society, you can
> start with yourself.

GAYYYYY!!!!!

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If Obama had not won both of those elections this
> country would be ruined by now. Ruined by either
> John Mccain and Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney and
> Paul Ryan. Either way, you're ass would have been
> fucked.
>
> Thank your lucky stars that your ungrateful
> degenerate idiotic blind motherfuckers were able
> to benefit from a president that stabilized your
> economic, fiscal and foreign policy situations.
>
> You filthy fucking rats.


Ruined by now if a Republican had won the last two elections? Really, Gerry? I can feel the success that Obama is blessing America with. What the hell is the deal with so many people needing unemployment benefits because they can't find work?

Oh yeah, that's something else you attributed to the success rate for Obama. He's already driven America into the ground. It will take our country 1/2 century to recover and rebuild the damage that his incompetent self has used in creating so much destruction.

We should bring Bush and Cheney back. They'll know how to stimulate the economy. Nothing better than a good ole fashioned pre emptive ground invasion to get those economic juices flowing.

Seriously thats how Republicans think you create jobs, by bombing other countries.

I would die to see a Republican even attempt job creation policies.

Let me tell you what a Republican will do if you were ever so lucky as to see another Republican president.

They'll start the war on terror bullshit again, scare the shit out of the American people, bomb some shit and the deficits will go through the roof again.

They may try an assault on social security and medicaire. Then they'll be thrown out after one term if not impeached.

Mark my fuckin words.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If Obama had not won both of those elections this
> country would be ruined by now. Ruined by either
> John Mccain and Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney and
> Paul Ryan. Either way, you're ass would have been
> fucked.
>
> Thank your lucky stars that your ungrateful
> degenerate idiotic blind motherfuckers were able
> to benefit from a president that stabilized your
> economic, fiscal and foreign policy situations.
>
> You filthy fucking rats.

Would be great if ANY of this was true!