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Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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eesh
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Date: January 03, 2014 09:51AM
http://www.wtop.com/289/3534812/Marines-delay-female-fitness-plan-after-half-fail
More than half of female Marines in boot camp can't do three pullups, the minimum standard that was supposed to take effect with the new year, prompting the Marine Corps to delay the requirement, part of the process of equalizing physical standards to integrate women into combat jobs.
The delay rekindled sharp debate in the military on the question of whether women have the physical strength for some military jobs, as service branches move toward opening thousands of combat roles to them in 2016.
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More than half of female Marines in boot camp can't do three pullups, the minimum standard that was supposed to take effect with the new year, prompting the Marine Corps to delay the requirement, part of the process of equalizing physical standards to integrate women into combat jobs.
The delay rekindled sharp debate in the military on the question of whether women have the physical strength for some military jobs, as service branches move toward opening thousands of combat roles to them in 2016.
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Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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eesh
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Date: January 03, 2014 08:46PM
This thread is lonely.
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Date: January 03, 2014 08:49PM
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Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
Posted by:
eesh
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Date: January 03, 2014 08:51PM
LOL You still bitter I posted that GIF like, six months ago?
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
Posted by:
Convoy Security
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Date: January 03, 2014 08:52PM
Pull-ups tend to be difficult to master for a lot of people at first. However, standards are standards so I hope they stick with the program.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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ColumnNo.4
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Date: January 03, 2014 08:53PM
They're standards catered to men, they need to be standards catered to both.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
Posted by:
Red River One
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Date: January 03, 2014 09:28PM
What are they supposed to do put off a patrol because its their time of the month.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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ColumnNo.4
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Date: January 03, 2014 09:36PM
You do know that a woman period doesn't render her inoperable, right?
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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eesh
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Date: January 03, 2014 09:41PM
My warrior princess. No period will stop her. No man will defeat her. She is my warrior princess.
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Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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Slackerz
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Date: January 03, 2014 09:45PM
Bunch of pussies.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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ColumnNo.4
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Date: January 03, 2014 09:50PM
When I worked at a couple of gyms I saw guys built like brick shithouses that couldn't do pullups, their probably the hardest workout.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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Your conscience
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Date: January 03, 2014 10:22PM
ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> When I worked at a couple of gyms I saw guys built
> like brick shithouses that couldn't do pullups,
> their probably the hardest workout.
stop looking at men
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> When I worked at a couple of gyms I saw guys built
> like brick shithouses that couldn't do pullups,
> their probably the hardest workout.
stop looking at men
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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ColumnNo.4
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Date: January 03, 2014 10:27PM
It's a gym, you're either training those who are out of shape or participating in small feats of strength.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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Liberal Logic 35
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Date: January 04, 2014 12:14AM
ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> They're standards catered to men, they need to be
> standards catered to both.
Because theyre expected to fight with men. Either they meet the standard or have no business on the line getting people killed because theyre a liability
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> They're standards catered to men, they need to be
> standards catered to both.
Because theyre expected to fight with men. Either they meet the standard or have no business on the line getting people killed because theyre a liability
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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ColumnNo.4
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Date: January 04, 2014 12:36AM
And men are expected to fight with women. Your statement is the epitome of sexism.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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tCCKH
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Date: January 04, 2014 01:14AM
ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> And men are expected to fight with women. Your
> statement is the epitome of sexism.
So you're saying that the abilities of men in war should be compromised to help compensate for less physically capable women all in the name of 'fairness' and preventing sexism? lmao
It's war idiot. Nobody gives a fuck about sexism.
This whole deal is about women being disadvantage in terms of promotions since those without combat experience tend to top out earlier in the same way that those in the Air Force who aren't pilots tend to top out. There are better ways to accommodate that than bringing soldiers down to the level of some lowest common denominator.
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> And men are expected to fight with women. Your
> statement is the epitome of sexism.
So you're saying that the abilities of men in war should be compromised to help compensate for less physically capable women all in the name of 'fairness' and preventing sexism? lmao
It's war idiot. Nobody gives a fuck about sexism.
This whole deal is about women being disadvantage in terms of promotions since those without combat experience tend to top out earlier in the same way that those in the Air Force who aren't pilots tend to top out. There are better ways to accommodate that than bringing soldiers down to the level of some lowest common denominator.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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ColumnNo.4
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Date: January 04, 2014 01:19AM
It's a man catered system that is attempting to integrate, you eiter integrate or you don't.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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ColumnNo.4
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Date: January 04, 2014 01:20AM
And the fact that you refer to women as the lowest common denominator is disturbing.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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Liberal Logic 35
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Date: January 04, 2014 01:25AM
ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> And the fact that you refer to women as the lowest
> common denominator is disturbing.
Men are physically superior to women. Its science and biology, why dont you believe in science?
Its also why they have never had the same physical fitness standards. Men have more muscle again simple biology.
If the women can meet the male physical standard then an argument can be made, if they get their own youre just getting people killed to push bullshit political correctness on the battlefield.
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> And the fact that you refer to women as the lowest
> common denominator is disturbing.
Men are physically superior to women. Its science and biology, why dont you believe in science?
Its also why they have never had the same physical fitness standards. Men have more muscle again simple biology.
If the women can meet the male physical standard then an argument can be made, if they get their own youre just getting people killed to push bullshit political correctness on the battlefield.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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ColumnNo.4
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Date: January 04, 2014 01:37AM
That's the only part where you're correct, muscle. Studies have shown women to be superior in cardio and pain threshold. Strength is a small part combat effectiveness.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
Posted by:
6mLUW
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Date: January 04, 2014 01:42AM
ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> And the fact that you refer to women as the lowest
> common denominator is disturbing.
Not nearly as disturbing as you wanting to risk people's lives for the sake of some PC bullshit.
And I'd say exactly the same for any man who didn't measure up and expecting standards to be lowered to accommodate them. If a woman is capable of meeting requirements, then bring her on. I'm sure that there are those who can and then some. But they've already created lower standards for women and half of the candidates still can't even meet those. It's 3 fucking pull-ups. That's pitiful.
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> And the fact that you refer to women as the lowest
> common denominator is disturbing.
Not nearly as disturbing as you wanting to risk people's lives for the sake of some PC bullshit.
And I'd say exactly the same for any man who didn't measure up and expecting standards to be lowered to accommodate them. If a woman is capable of meeting requirements, then bring her on. I'm sure that there are those who can and then some. But they've already created lower standards for women and half of the candidates still can't even meet those. It's 3 fucking pull-ups. That's pitiful.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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Just Saying....
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Date: January 04, 2014 01:42AM
Simple.............Infantry and all assault job will reserve for men, and unless a female can prove herself i.e pull up, push up, and sit up as men does for his physical test. These number is not deter but equalize the chance for female that want to fight as men.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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Liberal Logic 35
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Date: January 04, 2014 01:45AM
ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> That's the only part where you're correct, muscle.
> Studies have shown women to be superior in cardio
> and pain threshold. Strength is a small part
> combat effectiveness.
If they were superior in cardio they wouldnt need slower mile times for PT. They also cant carry the same amount of gear men can which means men have to carry the slack for them or they have someone whose under-equipped.
Putting them in with the men is nothing more than trying to make the battlefield politically correct. You can sleep well at night knowing people will die because of it so you can feel good about pushing the progressive agenda.
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> That's the only part where you're correct, muscle.
> Studies have shown women to be superior in cardio
> and pain threshold. Strength is a small part
> combat effectiveness.
If they were superior in cardio they wouldnt need slower mile times for PT. They also cant carry the same amount of gear men can which means men have to carry the slack for them or they have someone whose under-equipped.
Putting them in with the men is nothing more than trying to make the battlefield politically correct. You can sleep well at night knowing people will die because of it so you can feel good about pushing the progressive agenda.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
Posted by:
Kinda Simple
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Date: January 04, 2014 01:55AM
I call this a cluster fuck... I know some women who can rip off 20 pull up's, and some men that can do 2.
Make the standards the same. why fuck with it? plenty of good strong women who can do this, Those who can't, work on it until you can, or find another fucking job.
Make the standards the same. why fuck with it? plenty of good strong women who can do this, Those who can't, work on it until you can, or find another fucking job.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
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ColumnNo.4
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Date: January 04, 2014 02:51AM
It's sad this site is plagued with bigot, racists, sexists, misogynist, etc.
Re: Marines Delay 2014 Female Fitness Standards for Combat Integration
Posted by:
eesh
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Date: January 04, 2014 03:53AM
ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> It's sad this site is plagued with bigot, racists,
> sexists, misogynist, etc.
Most of those are posts by Alias. She hates most demographics.
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> It's sad this site is plagued with bigot, racists,
> sexists, misogynist, etc.
Most of those are posts by Alias. She hates most demographics.