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Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 25, 2013 09:43PM

Seeing as how there hasn't been a thread made on it yet, one has to assume it didn't go the Kooch's way. If anyone has a link to the debate please post it. Haven't been able to find one so far.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Jesus Christ, risen ()
Date: September 25, 2013 09:53PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Seeing as how there hasn't been a thread made on
> it yet, one has to assume it didn't go the Kooch's
> way. If anyone has a link to the debate please
> post it. Haven't been able to find one so far.


I'm voting for our Saviour. No more of you Kenyan Obamacare shitheads!

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: BelowMe. ()
Date: September 25, 2013 09:57PM

I watched it and it was really sad politics - like Ted Cruz bad.

Cuccinelli got his ass handed to him on many fronts. He mounted a defense but it was like Napoleon at Waterloo.

Transvaginal Pipeline just doesn't work well with women.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 25, 2013 10:24PM

Jesus Christ, risen Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Seeing as how there hasn't been a thread made
> on
> > it yet, one has to assume it didn't go the
> Kooch's
> > way. If anyone has a link to the debate please
> > post it. Haven't been able to find one so far.
>
>
> I'm voting for our Saviour. No more of you Kenyan
> Obamacare shitheads!


Cuccinelli is Jesus now? I didn't know Jesus took bribes? Did the money changers give Jesus a 1500 dollar Thanks Giving Dinner too? Did Jesus spend time yachting with the money changers? Did Jesus have to recuse himself when the Romans decided to hold the money changers to account?

Hardly a savior. More like a hypocritical con man.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 25, 2013 10:26PM

Anyways, Kooch is history, that's a given, get your dumbass and vote for that retard Kooch all you want, it won't make a difference.

What I want to know is if someone has a link to the debate?

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Historical Comparisons ()
Date: September 25, 2013 10:38PM

Terry reminded me of Freidrich von Paulus in the fall of 1942.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: General Friedrich von Paulus ()
Date: September 25, 2013 10:42PM

Historical Comparisons Wrote:
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> Terry reminded me of Freidrich von Paulus in the
> fall of 1942.

Comparing me to Terry McAuliffe is an insult. I was never that sleazy.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Here...Maybe ()
Date: September 25, 2013 10:58PM

Someone posted a link on the other forum here, but it didn't work for me:

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Virginia-Gubernatorial-Debate/10737441651/

I posted these comments on that thread:

My thoughts...this was not a game changer. Both candidates looked nervous out of the gate, but McCauliffe warmed up pretty quickly. Cucinnelli looked like the awkward wonk that he is. He tried to smile but you could tell that this guy has absolutely no capacity for warmth and humor. I have no idea how his base can relate to Cucinnelli.

Both candidates avoided direct answers and resorted to the usual talking points. But Cucinnelli downright lied. He categorically denied his disparaging comments on gays, saying he found McCualiffe's remarks incredibly insulting. He also promoted himself as a forward-thinking supporter of women's rights. "“No one up here has done more to protect women… than I have." Who does he think he's kidding?

One thing I found humorous - Cucinnelli referred briefly to Ted Cruz' "sort of filibuster".

Chuck Todd tried repeatedly to pin Cuccinnelli down on what tax loopholes he'd close to pay for his massive tax cuts. Cucinnelli's response - "There’s literally scores of them". Yeah, right. There may be, but Cucinnelli wasn't going to put himself out there.

Throughout the debate, Cucinnelli was snide and condescending. That may appeal to his base, but it won't sway independents.

One thing I thought McCauliffe may have stumbled on - but I don't know enough about the issue to be able to tell. Both were asked if they would revisit the school start date. McCauliffe said absolutely not - it is critical to tourism in the state. Cucnnelli said the opposite - children are more important than tourism.

Interested in other people's point of view - IF THEY WATCHED THE DEBATE. If you didn't, don't bother commenting (I'm looking at you, Liberal Logic 28).

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 25, 2013 11:06PM

This is a pretty extreme race, I mean, McAuliffe hates gun rights, and Cuccinelli hates gay people and thinks abortion is the work of Satan.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: RoadMusings_ ()
Date: September 25, 2013 11:12PM

eesh Wrote:
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> This is a pretty extreme race, I mean, McAuliffe
> hates gun rights, and Cuccinelli hates gay people
> and thinks abortion is the work of Satan.


They both suck and I thought they both sucked in the debate. I back Cooch but I'm not happy about it.

The sad thing about Cooch and what I will never understand is that he's not Todd Akin. He really isn't a dumbass (quite the opposite) and he can be very prepared when he needs to be. He has also done things which don't fit the narrative (his work with mental health services and sexual assault, etc). Fundamentally I think he's actually a good guy. But he spends most of his time pissing off just about anyone he can. There's a reason he's as polarizing as he is.

Bob McDonnell has views almost identical to Cuccinelli's (with perhaps two exceptions - he's not as extreme on gays and he didn't and wouldn't have gone after UVA over the global warming stuff).

Yet Bob McDonnell won by almost 20 points and still has a positive approval rating after having an awful six months of bad press from his gifts.

Why? Because McDonnell knows how to disagree without being disagreeable. He knows how to talk to the plurality of Virginians who aren't committed partisans.

Cooch has never learned this. I once heard it said that "Cuccinelli has never met a Democrat he didn't want to fight with". And that's about right.

And if he loses, to this awful sleazebag of a Democratic nominee, that will be why.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Truth B Told ()
Date: September 26, 2013 08:13AM

RoadMusings_ Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is a pretty extreme race, I mean, McAuliffe
>
> > hates gun rights, and Cuccinelli hates gay
> people
> > and thinks abortion is the work of Satan.
>
>
> They both suck and I thought they both sucked in
> the debate. I back Cooch but I'm not happy about
> it.
>
> The sad thing about Cooch and what I will never
> understand is that he's not Todd Akin. He really
> isn't a dumbass (quite the opposite) and he can be
> very prepared when he needs to be. He has also
> done things which don't fit the narrative (his
> work with mental health services and sexual
> assault, etc). Fundamentally I think he's actually
> a good guy. But he spends most of his time pissing
> off just about anyone he can. There's a reason
> he's as polarizing as he is.
>
> Bob McDonnell has views almost identical to
> Cuccinelli's (with perhaps two exceptions - he's
> not as extreme on gays and he didn't and wouldn't
> have gone after UVA over the global warming
> stuff).
>
> Yet Bob McDonnell won by almost 20 points and
> still has a positive approval rating after having
> an awful six months of bad press from his gifts.
>
> Why? Because McDonnell knows how to disagree
> without being disagreeable. He knows how to talk
> to the plurality of Virginians who aren't
> committed partisans.
>
> Cooch has never learned this. I once heard it said
> that "Cuccinelli has never met a Democrat he
> didn't want to fight with". And that's about
> right.
>
> And if he loses, to this awful sleazebag of a
> Democratic nominee, that will be why.

Truth: The Kookster thinks he's been annointed by and is led by God.

God, meanwhile, thinks the Kookster sucks.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Exposed again ()
Date: September 26, 2013 08:17AM

BelowMe. Wrote:
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> I watched it and it was really sad politics - like
> Ted Cruz bad.
>
> Cuccinelli got his ass handed to him on many
> fronts. He mounted a defense but it was like
> Napoleon at Waterloo.
>
> Transvaginal Pipeline just doesn't work well with
> women.

Whats really sad Corky is posting under gerrymanderer then posting under another name so you can agree with your previous post.
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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: BelowMe. ()
Date: September 26, 2013 10:20AM

I'm not registered and have been posting under this name for a good while. I have never posted as Gerrymanderer though at times I agree with what he has to say.

Good post by RoadMusings above.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: From Da Hood -- Politics ()
Date: September 26, 2013 11:32AM

It's funny how you Liberals think Terry won the debate hands down. My 20-y.o. daughter called Terry a "little" idiot. At one point, Terry tried to explain how he would handle something and then had to be reminded that such approvals are not done by the governor.

Terry McAuliffe is only good at making money for himself or others that he supports the interests of. Clearly, he has no interest in Virginians. He'll be just like president Obama who used so many people to get where he got, yet dissed them as soon as he occupied 1600 Penn. Avenue. For example, why doesn't he have a friendship with Oprah any more? She was a big water carrier for him in his campaign? Or, Matt Damon? Matt told Obama that he didn't agree with some of his policies ... Obama dissed him.

Back to McAuliffe from 2009: (yes, I did a copy and past of the following info)

On November 10, 2008, McAuliffe filed to form an exploratory committee for governor of Virginia in the 2009 election.[51] He told reporters that he had planned to spend the next few months traveling to "every corner of Virginia" to measure interest in his possible run.[51] McAuliffe told The Washington Post that he is "best suited to carry the Democratic banner because he (would) campaign as a business leader who can bring jobs to Virginia".[51] He also cited his ability to raise money for down-ticket Democratic candidates.[51] On January 3, 2009, McAuliffe announced in a YouTube video emailed to his supporters that he would be seeking the Democratic Party nomination for governor of Virginia.[52]

McAuliffe's political team included several former staffers from the campaigns of Democrats Hillary Clinton, Tim Kaine, Mark Warner and Jim Webb. Among them were campaign manager Mike Henry, senior strategist Mo Elleithee, and communications director Delacey Skinner.[53] McAuliffe raised over $7.5 million over the course of the campaign, and donated an additional $500,000 to himself.[54][55]

In the primary, McAuliffe faced two other high-profile Democrats, State Sen. Creigh Deeds, 2005 nominee for Attorney General, and Brian Moran, a former state representative and former Democratic Caucus chairman. On June 9, 2009, Virginia Democrats selected Deeds as their gubernatorial candidate with McAuliffe losing by 23 points.[56][57] Virginia Attorney General Bob McDonnell went on to defeat Deeds by a margin of 17 points.[58][59]

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: September 26, 2013 12:02PM

Koch looked like he was 15yrs old.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Molecule ()
Date: September 26, 2013 12:05PM

Terry looked like he was drunk.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Atom Smasher ()
Date: September 26, 2013 12:14PM

Atom Wrote:
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> Koch looked like he was 15yrs old.


LOL. Typical dumbass lib. They always have Koch on the brain. Koch brothers this, Koch brothers that. What a bunch of broken record dumbasses.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: From Da Hood -- Debate ()
Date: September 26, 2013 01:15PM

Molecule Wrote:
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> Terry looked like he was drunk.

He might have been. A pre-debate picture has been released of Terry and quite possibly he may have consumed the whole bottle that he is holding.


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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Truth B Told ()
Date: September 26, 2013 01:45PM

From Da Hood -- Debate Wrote:
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> He might have been. A pre-debate picture has been
> released of Terry and quite possibly he may have
> consumed the whole bottle that he is holding.

Dumbass. That is a screenshot from Terry's June 2, 2008 appearance in Morning Joe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb8rt5EMvT4

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Oh Come On ()
Date: September 26, 2013 01:52PM

From Da Hood -- Debate Wrote:
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> Molecule Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Terry looked like he was drunk.
>
> He might have been. A pre-debate picture has been
> released of Terry and quite possibly he may have
> consumed the whole bottle that he is holding.

Seriously? That picture was from a Morning Joe segment several years ago when he brought back a bottle of rum for Mika. You really look ridiculous when you cite non-issues like this. As does Cucinnelli since he's cynically included it in his ads, hoping his goober base will buy it. Clearly, some of them have.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: He wants em bigger ()
Date: September 26, 2013 03:31PM

Atom Smasher Wrote:
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> Atom Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Koch looked like he was 15yrs old.
>
>
> LOL. Typical dumbass lib. They always have Koch
> on the brain. Koch brothers this, Koch brothers
> that. What a bunch of broken record dumbasses.

Liberals do love cock esp gerrymanderer

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: From Da Hood -- Debate ()
Date: September 26, 2013 05:07PM

Truth B Told Wrote:
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>
> Dumbass. That is a screenshot from Terry's June
> 2, 2008 appearance in Morning Joe.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb8rt5EMvT4


Yes. I know it was from a few years ago. But, I really have to wonder why the only way a Liberal can communicate or respond is if they call the other person names or try and cut them down?

Really. Maybe, you can enlighten me with a serious answer to my question on this. I'm not expecting much, after all this is me asking a question to the Liberal party. I hardly expect them to think deep enough for an educated response and will just anticipate more spewing on their part instead.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Ta-Roo ()
Date: September 26, 2013 05:11PM

From Da Hood -- Debate Wrote:
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> Truth B Told Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Dumbass. That is a screenshot from Terry's
> June
> > 2, 2008 appearance in Morning Joe.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb8rt5EMvT4
>
>
> Yes. I know it was from a few years ago. But, I
> really have to wonder why the only way a Liberal
> can communicate or respond is if they call the
> other person names or try and cut them down?
>
> Really. Maybe, you can enlighten me with a
> serious answer to my question on this. I'm not
> expecting much, after all this is me asking a
> question to the Liberal party. I hardly expect
> them to think deep enough for an educated response
> and will just anticipate more spewing on their
> part instead.


Liberals "feel", they don't think. Thus, their response is usually some emotional diatribe of either hate, anger, love, etc.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Serious Answer ()
Date: September 26, 2013 05:18PM

From Da Hood -- Debate Wrote:
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> Yes. I know it was from a few years ago. But, I
> really have to wonder why the only way a Liberal
> can communicate or respond is if they call the
> other person names or try and cut them down?
>
> Really. Maybe, you can enlighten me with a
> serious answer to my question on this. I'm not
> expecting much, after all this is me asking a
> question to the Liberal party. I hardly expect
> them to think deep enough for an educated response
> and will just anticipate more spewing on their
> part instead.

Here is what you wrote on this topic:

From Da Hood -- Debate Wrote:
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> Molecule Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Terry looked like he was drunk.
>
> He might have been. A pre-debate picture has been
> released of Terry and quite possibly he may have
> consumed the whole bottle that he is holding.

So you knew that this was a still from a Morning Joe appearance several years ago, but you deliberately tried to imply that this was a purposefully concealed recently released photo of Terry getting drunk.

And you need an explanation of why we think you people are duplicative assholes. Please.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: From Da Hood -- Debate ()
Date: September 26, 2013 06:20PM

Serious Answer Wrote:
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> So you knew that this was a still from a Morning
> Joe appearance several years ago, but you
> deliberately tried to imply that this was a
> purposefully concealed recently released photo of
> Terry getting drunk.
>
> And you need an explanation of why we think you
> people are duplicative assholes. Please.

Call it what you want. But, see, in your response, you couldn't reply without using the word "assholes" which proves my point even further. Next time, give it some more thought and provide an adequate response without having to belittle someone with your childish name calling. As you'll see in my posts, I utilize the correct names fo the candidates and I don't try and use some silly concoctions to make the name a joke. I'm here for a serious discussion.

Also, in a thread the other evening, there was the suggestion that people who see an Obama bumper sticker on the car should key each vehicle that has such a sticker. I then replied that in doing so, it was not such a good idea because we would then have to go down to the level where Liberals like to take things. But, with each response you make, you just vailidate and confirm what most of us know. You are inacapable of providing and adequate answer of some substance without the use of name calling or using the term asshole and other degrading word.

I think you'll see my point and you'll realize that the observation that I've shared is really quite accurate.

Your responses that you apply in political thread are a direct reflection of your party. If you like to take low-blows, then we can all see what your party is about because that is the manner in which you provide such representation.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: "Smart" guys make me laugh ()
Date: September 26, 2013 06:48PM

Serious Answer Wrote:
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>
> So you knew that this was a still from a Morning
> Joe appearance several years ago, but you
> deliberately tried to imply that this was a
> purposefully concealed recently released photo of
> Terry getting drunk.
>
> And you need an explanation of why we think you
> people are duplicative assholes. Please.


Duplicative huh. lmao

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Terry's habit ()
Date: September 26, 2013 06:59PM

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Serious Answer ()
Date: September 26, 2013 07:49PM

"Smart" guys make me laugh Wrote:
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> Serious Answer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > So you knew that this was a still from a
> Morning
> > Joe appearance several years ago, but you
> > deliberately tried to imply that this was a
> > purposefully concealed recently released photo
> of
> > Terry getting drunk.
> >
> > And you need an explanation of why we think you
> > people are duplicative assholes. Please.
>
>
> Duplicative huh. lmao

My bad....duplicitous.

du·plic·i·tous (d-pls-ts, dy-)
adj.
Given to or marked by deliberate deceptiveness in behavior or speech.
du·plici·tous·ly adv.
du·plici·tous·ness n.

I'm blaming it on spellcheck.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: From Da Hood -- Debate ()
Date: September 26, 2013 08:15PM

Serious Answer Wrote:
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>
> My bad....duplicitous.
>
> du·plic·i·tous (d-pls-ts, dy-)
> adj.
> Given to or marked by deliberate deceptiveness in
> behavior or speech.


Oh, the irony. You're here to give us a lesson on deliberate deceptiveness?

I think we're done hearing from you. You keep digging that hole that you're already in that much deeper.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Serious Answer ()
Date: September 26, 2013 08:33PM

From Da Hood -- Debate Wrote:
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> Serious Answer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > My bad....duplicitous.
> >
> > du·plic·i·tous (d-pls-ts, dy-)
> > adj.
> > Given to or marked by deliberate deceptiveness
> in
> > behavior or speech.
>
>
> Oh, the irony. You're here to give us a lesson on
> deliberate deceptiveness?
>
> I think we're done hearing from you. You keep
> digging that hole that you're already in that much
> deeper.

You didn't pick up on it, moron. Thanks for bringing to our attention that you didn't know the meaning of either word.

And at least I have a sense of humor about it - which is more than can be said for you.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Terry McIrishdrunk ()
Date: September 26, 2013 08:45PM

"n response to a question about how he’d accomplish his goals as governor, McAuliffe told the PAC board that as an Irish Catholic he’d be adept at taking people out for drinks and doing whatever it takes to get things done."

At least he admits it.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: You Idiot ()
Date: September 26, 2013 09:36PM

Terry McIrishdrunk Wrote:
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> "n response to a question about how he’d
> accomplish his goals as governor, McAuliffe told
> the PAC board that as an Irish Catholic he’d be
> adept at taking people out for drinks and doing
> whatever it takes to get things done."
>
> At least he admits it.

Gossip from two Republican board members who refuse to be identified. Real reliable. Meanwhile the right wing batshit crazy 'press' has been having a field day with this crap. Is that the best you got?

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Truth B Told ()
Date: September 26, 2013 09:40PM

From Da Hood -- Debate Wrote:
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> Truth B Told Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Dumbass. That is a screenshot from Terry's
> June
> > 2, 2008 appearance in Morning Joe.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb8rt5EMvT4
>
>
> Yes. I know it was from a few years ago. But, I
> really have to wonder why the only way a Liberal
> can communicate or respond is if they call the
> other person names or try and cut them down?
>
> Really. Maybe, you can enlighten me with a
> serious answer to my question on this. I'm not
> expecting much, after all this is me asking a
> question to the Liberal party. I hardly expect
> them to think deep enough for an educated response
> and will just anticipate more spewing on their
> part instead.

If you knew you were being a dumbass, why didn't you stop.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: MvNUP ()
Date: September 26, 2013 09:47PM

Terry McIrishdrunk Wrote:
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> "n response to a question about how he’d
> accomplish his goals as governor, McAuliffe told
> the PAC board that as an Irish Catholic he’d be
> adept at taking people out for drinks and doing
> whatever it takes to get things done."
>
> At least he admits it.

Admits to what? That he can crack a joke, albeit a bad one. You are then saying that Ken is actually as wooden as he comes across?

Or how about that he's Catholic. Oh, darn, so is Mr. Cuccinelli.

Or perhaps that he says he's Irish. Hmm.. Ken's mother's maiden name was Reilly.

It can't be having a drink, because Mr. Cuccinelli also imbibes.

With all other possibilities eliminated it must be...

"At least he admits" that he can "get things done".

Yea, you got him there!

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Terry McThrowEmBack ()
Date: September 26, 2013 09:56PM

Terry likes to throw them back... a lot


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KMGwpdsByE


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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Those damn WaPo right wingers! ()
Date: September 26, 2013 10:10PM

You Idiot Wrote:
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> Terry McIrishdrunk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "n response to a question about how he’d
> > accomplish his goals as governor, McAuliffe
> told
> > the PAC board that as an Irish Catholic he’d
> be
> > adept at taking people out for drinks and doing
> > whatever it takes to get things done."
> >
> > At least he admits it.
>
> Gossip from two Republican board members who
> refuse to be identified. Real reliable. Meanwhile
> the right wing batshit crazy 'press' has been
> having a field day with this crap. Is that the
> best you got?


"One member said that not everyone came away from the interviews thinking McAuliffe was blase and Cuccinelli better prepared. That member did not dispute McAuliffe’s drinks comment, but said, “You can take 30 seconds out of a four-hour interview and make anything out of it.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcauliffe-camp-erupts-over-business-pacs-choice-of-cuccinelli-for-virginia-governor/2013/09/15/bd93558e-1e04-11e3-8459-657e0c72fec8_story_1.html

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: KuFbC ()
Date: September 26, 2013 10:56PM

From Da Hood -- Debate Wrote:
>
> Call it what you want. But, see, in your
> response, you couldn't reply without using the
> word "assholes" which proves my point even
> further. Next time, give it some more thought and
> provide an adequate response without having to
> belittle someone with your childish name calling.
> As you'll see in my posts, I utilize the correct
> names fo the candidates and I don't try and use
> some silly concoctions to make the name a joke.
> I'm here for a serious discussion.
>
> Also, in a thread the other evening, there was the
> suggestion that people who see an Obama bumper
> sticker on the car should key each vehicle that
> has such a sticker. I then replied that in doing
> so, it was not such a good idea because we would
> then have to go down to the level where Liberals
> like to take things. But, with each response you
> make, you just vailidate and confirm what most of
> us know. You are inacapable of providing and
> adequate answer of some substance without the use
> of name calling or using the term asshole and
> other degrading word.
>
> I think you'll see my point and you'll realize
> that the observation that I've shared is really
> quite accurate.
>
> Your responses that you apply in political thread
> are a direct reflection of your party. If you
> like to take low-blows, then we can all see what
> your party is about because that is the manner in
> which you provide such representation.

Alright, since you asked twice here, I'll answer your question, on behalf of Liberals everywhere.

You stated in an earlier post "I really have to wonder why the only way a Liberal can communicate or respond is if they call the other person names or try and cut them down?"

But then, you went on to write "I'm not expecting much, after all this is me asking a question to the Liberal party. I hardly expect them to think deep enough for an educated response".

And in reply to a keying threat you read, you write "it was not such a good idea because we would then have to go down to the level where Liberals like to take things".

Now, since you're writing in complete and grammatically correct sentences, I can only assume that you realize how provocative and leading these statements are. As you appeal for civility, you evidently cannot resist the urge to do a little demeaning yourself, and without provocation. I'm sure you know the definition of hypocracy.

So, why do Liberals use insults and swear words in discourse with you? It's because years of dealing with you and your type have proven to us that Conservatives are weak minded, uneducated, fearful little miscreants, who are best dismissed with an expletive.

Oh yes, the Conservative's reliance on such Goebbelsian tactics as the "leading question" and the "strawman argument" is tiresome, and doesn't merit anything but snark.

Now, I've answered your question, so I respectfully ask that you answer one of mine. Why is it that small-government conservatives like Mr. Cuccinelli have platforms and positions at all? A platform implies using the power of the state to effect change, and isn't that antithetical to the very idea of limited government?

Why didn't Mr. Cuccinelli start the debate by saying "I believe in getting government off the backs of the people, and out of the way of business. Therefore, when I'm governor, we'll build a road or two, maybe, and keep the state police to catch murderers, I guess, and maybe fund a prison, but that's it. Liquor stores, privatized! Let them sell to 8 year olds. It's the free market! Schools? Each student must pay the teacher $20 per day, cash. The teacher gets to keep half. Colleges? The highest bidder gets admitted to UVA now! The environment? Trash it. After all, the Bible (which as a Catholic I'm not supposed to read) says we have dominion over the whole planet. And as my good friend, the Reagan crony James Watt pointed out when he was Secretary of the Interior, 'why bother to clean up the environment? Jesus is coming in a generation or two anyway'".

And then Mr. Cuccinelli could have walked out, pure in heart, and stout in ideology.

I look forward to your profanity free response.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Terry McDrinksalot ()
Date: September 26, 2013 11:07PM

...An example of that work is an e-mail that he sent today to his Richmond based supporters, asking them to join him for a drink at the downtown bar, LuLu’s. The invite is understated and simple, but it speaks volumes of his future goals.

Here is a look at the e-mail:

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Dear xxxx,

Terry will be at Lulu’s in Richmond this evening – Monday, February 22. Please drop by at 8 PM if you would like to have a drink with him.

Lulu’s
21 North 17th Street
Richmond, VA 23219

Thank you. We hope you can attend.


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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: kcpnW ()
Date: September 27, 2013 01:18AM

Ken Cuccinelli/Terry McAuliffe Debate 9/25/2013. Virginia Gubernatorial Debate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt-WxZEt7uo

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 10:03AM

Thanks for the link, watching the debate now.

Ken Cuccinelli - The grand son of a bare knuckle boxer. Fighting is in his blood and he'll fight for you!!!! lol

I'm only ten minutes in but Cuccinelli seems painfully awkward. I can't stand looking at his face for a matter of minutes yet alone have him be a four year governor.

His boring monotone voice makes me want to shoot myself. I don't know if I'm going to make it through this.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 10:05AM

lol @ Terry. "I said that's a lot of Turkey."

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Buck Naked ()
Date: September 27, 2013 10:06AM

Terry McDrinksalot Wrote:
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Is that a pic of Terry at the gay rodeo?

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 10:07AM

1500 dollars in turkey from Star Sci? "I said that's a lot of turkey." LOL

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 10:09AM

Still watching it but that line did it for me.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 10:10AM

Cuccinelli: "Bill Bolling has comments because he's not in this race."

Dammnnnnnnnnnnnn

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 10:30AM

Terry McAullife crushed him. Made mince meat out of him. Terry just suffers from unjust prejudices for whatever reason, mainly his outgoing personality. Cuccinelli is a monotone sounding moron.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: 1000 words ()
Date: September 27, 2013 10:52AM

Terry is a drunk rummy who doesn't even know what the Governor's Cabinet does.

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He also frequents the gay rodeo.

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He is an advocate for repealing Virginia's crimes against nature laws.

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And hangs out and kisses the ass of that fat puke, Michael Moore.

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He is repulsed by African American children.

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He is tight with mideast oil interests.

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He makes out with women who aren't his wife.

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He engages in shady business deals with the Communist Chinese government.

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Look folks, pictures don't lie.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 11:31AM

Speaking of fear mongering with the Chinese.

On a trade mission to China with her husband in 2011, Maureen McDonnell asked the world’s largest television network to do something it had never done before: make a show promoting travel to a U.S. state. She met with the head of state-run CCTV to make her pitch, starting formally by invoking the place of Thomas Jefferson and Virginia in American history but soon shifting into easy, laughter-filled banter.

“She charmed that guy — I was there — and they eventually came to Virginia,” said Alisa Bailey, former president of the state’s tourism office. “She’s a saleswoman.”

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Williams sprinkled luxury items and big checks among several McDonnell family members, and recent revelations suggest that the first lady made the most aggressive grab for the good life.

She asked Williams to pick up the tab for a $15,000 shopping trip to Bergdorf Goodman in New York, people with knowledge of the gift have said. And after admiring Williams’s Rolex watch, she asked him to buy another one that she could give to her husband, Gov. Robert F. McDonnell (R). She received a $50,000 check from Williams, which the governor reported as a loan, as she confided financial stress to friends.

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Cuccinelli received $18,000 in gifts from Star Scientific and Williams. He said he concluded after listening to supporters that the gifts were perceived as a problem for his gubernatorial campaign.

"The idea here is to clear the air. I've heard from my own supporters and people around the state on this and from my perspective, we'll be able to ... focus on issues not, maybe not completely, but as much as possible," he said.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/Sep/10/gift-scandal-va-gop-govs-candidate-donates-18k/

Pictured here, our princess of a First Lady and Star Sci's Jonnie himself. All smiles indeed.



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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: say wha.... ()
Date: September 27, 2013 11:40AM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Speaking of fear mongering with the Chinese.
>
> On a trade mission to China with her husband in
> 2011, Maureen McDonnell asked the world’s
> largest television network to do something it had
> never done before: make a show promoting travel to
> a U.S. state. She met with the head of state-run
> CCTV to make her pitch, starting formally by
> invoking the place of Thomas Jefferson and
> Virginia in American history but soon shifting
> into easy, laughter-filled banter.
>
> “She charmed that guy — I was there — and
> they eventually came to Virginia,” said Alisa
> Bailey, former president of the state’s tourism
> office. “She’s a saleswoman.”
>
> --------------------
>
> Williams sprinkled luxury items and big checks
> among several McDonnell family members, and recent
> revelations suggest that the first lady made the
> most aggressive grab for the good life.
>
> She asked Williams to pick up the tab for a
> $15,000 shopping trip to Bergdorf Goodman in New
> York, people with knowledge of the gift have said.
> And after admiring Williams’s Rolex watch, she
> asked him to buy another one that she could give
> to her husband, Gov. Robert F. McDonnell (R). She
> received a $50,000 check from Williams, which the
> governor reported as a loan, as she confided
> financial stress to friends.
>
> --------------------
>
> Cuccinelli received $18,000 in gifts from Star
> Scientific and Williams. He said he concluded
> after listening to supporters that the gifts were
> perceived as a problem for his gubernatorial
> campaign.
>
> "The idea here is to clear the air. I've heard
> from my own supporters and people around the state
> on this and from my perspective, we'll be able to
> ... focus on issues not, maybe not completely, but
> as much as possible," he said.
>
> http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/Sep/10/gift-sc
> andal-va-gop-govs-candidate-donates-18k/
>
> Pictured here, our princess of a First Lady and
> Star Sci's Jonnie himself. All smiles indeed.


Wow, talk about a fucking stretch. You had to go around the world twice to make that link. Remind me again what Maureen McDonald is running for?

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: gerry1 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 11:43AM

Your boy Cuccinelli took 18 grand from the same guy. Publicly apologized and went as far as to donate the same amount to charity. Like Terry said, "I said that's a lot of turkey."

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Turkey McAuliffe ()
Date: September 27, 2013 11:55AM

gerry1 Wrote:
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> Your boy Cuccinelli took 18 grand from the same
> guy. Publicly apologized and went as far as to
> donate the same amount to charity. Like Terry
> said, "I said that's a lot of turkey."


And that connects to the Chinese how??????

Terry is the only turkey in the conversation.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: gerry1 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 11:58AM

If he wins governor star sci has promised him a better thanksgiving dinner than the last.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: not so much....... ()
Date: September 27, 2013 12:03PM

gerry1 Wrote:
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> If he wins governor star sci has promised him a
> better thanksgiving dinner than the last.


Proof?

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: gerry1 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 12:38PM

You do it once you can do it again. Lack of a moral compass has been proven.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: not so much....... ()
Date: September 27, 2013 12:54PM

gerry1 Wrote:
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> You do it once you can do it again. Lack of a
> moral compass has been proven.


Sort of like fraudulently selling visas? Or more like illegally aiding in the election of a major union boss in exchange for large contributions from the union to the Democratic Party’s war chest?

Turkey McAuliffe's lack of moral compass has been evident for decades.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Liberal Logic 28 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 01:33PM

gerry1 Wrote:
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> Your boy Cuccinelli took 18 grand from the same
> guy. Publicly apologized and went as far as to
> donate the same amount to charity. Like Terry
> said, "I said that's a lot of turkey."


Then theres no way you could support Terry who made MILLIONS off them of course.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: gerry1 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 02:06PM

gerry1 Wrote:
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> You do it once you can do it again. Lack of a
> moral compass has been proven.

+1

Proven over & over again.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Vexxxed ()
Date: September 27, 2013 08:25PM

gerry1 Wrote:
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> gerry1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You do it once you can do it again. Lack of a
> > moral compass has been proven.
>
> +1
>
> Proven over & over again.


GerBear...you forgot to change names before responding to yourself about your response that you'd already responded to.

If you weren't such a dick, perhaps people that don't reside in your head might talk to you.

Again.
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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: F9tnj ()
Date: September 27, 2013 09:14PM

not so much....... Wrote:
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> gerry1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You do it once you can do it again. Lack of a
> > moral compass has been proven.
>
>
> Sort of like fraudulently selling visas? Or more
> like illegally aiding in the election of a major
> union boss in exchange for large contributions
> from the union to the Democratic Party’s war
> chest?
>
> Turkey McAuliffe's lack of moral compass has been
> evident for decades.

"Fraudulent" visas? Perhaps you are referring to the EB-5 Immigration Investor program, which grants permanent residence to foreigners willing and able to invest at least $500,000, in a US business, either startup or ongoing.

You can read all about it on the USCIS.gov website, but I'll summarize the interesting parts for you:

1) Started by George H.W. Bush in 1990 (those Bushes are always into mischief)
2) Invest in or start a business in the U.S. and you and your family can have one (See all those smiling faces with thick accents at the dry cleaners or the 7-11? Yep, that's how they do it.)
3) There is nothing illegal about an American citizen assisting an Investor in the application process.

As to your second, equally idiotic statement, why would McAuliffe have to "illegally" help anyone in a Union election in exchange for large donations? After years of vitriol from the Right, do you really think some Union official would be sitting around and thinking..."Let's see, we could make a large donation to the Democrats, who support Unions, or to the Republicans, who don't even support bathroom breaks?"

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: 9MeWH ()
Date: September 27, 2013 09:30PM

Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
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> gerry1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Your boy Cuccinelli took 18 grand from the same
> > guy. Publicly apologized and went as far as to
> > donate the same amount to charity. Like Terry
> > said, "I said that's a lot of turkey."
>
>
> Then theres no way you could support Terry who
> made MILLIONS off them of course.

Oh, this is rich on so many levels. What a crafty lawyer Kenny must be. Don't repay your bribe, donate it to charity. Voilà, instant tax deduction.

But not too crafty. The sad thing is that Cuccinelli didn't have 18 grand and had to borrow it from friends and family. He certainly isn't a sleazy Capitalist. He isn't even much of a Republican. A middle aged man with what, 3 degrees and a law practice, and he doesn't even have 18 large liquid he can lay his hands on? Hell, I'm an anonymous Liberal poster, can I can do much, much better than that.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: GerryFail ()
Date: September 27, 2013 09:33PM

Vexxxed Wrote:
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> gerry1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > gerry1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You do it once you can do it again. Lack of a
> > > moral compass has been proven.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Proven over & over again.
>
>
> GerBear...you forgot to change names before
> responding to yourself about your response that
> you'd already responded to.
>
> If you weren't such a dick, perhaps people that
> don't reside in your head might talk to you.
>
> Again.


lulz

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Liberal Logic 28 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 10:58PM

9MeWH Wrote:
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> Oh, this is rich on so many levels. What a crafty
> lawyer Kenny must be. Don't repay your bribe,
> donate it to charity. Voilà, instant tax
> deduction.
>
> But not too crafty. The sad thing is that
> Cuccinelli didn't have 18 grand and had to borrow
> it from friends and family. He certainly isn't a
> sleazy Capitalist. He isn't even much of a
> Republican. A middle aged man with what, 3
> degrees and a law practice, and he doesn't even
> have 18 large liquid he can lay his hands on?
> Hell, I'm an anonymous Liberal poster, can I can
> do much, much better than that.

"The prospectus, along with other documents reviewed by The Post, shows how GreenTech fits into a pattern of investments in which McAuliffe has used government programs, political connections and access to wealthy investors of both parties in pursuit of big profits for himself.

That formula has made McAuliffe a millionaire many times over, paving the way for a long list of business ventures, including his law firm, from which he resigned in the 1990s after profiting — along with his partners — from fees paid by domestic and foreign clients seeking results from the federal government.

A review of McAuliffe’s business history shows him often coming out ahead personally, even if some investments fail or become embroiled in controversy.

One high-profile example involved Global Crossing, a telecommunications firm whose demise in the 1990s cost investors billions of dollars. McAuliffe was working as a consultant to Global Crossing founder Gary Winnick, a prolific political donor, and became an investor in the company. McAuliffe sold some of his Global Crossing shares before the stock price plummeted and made an estimated $8 million before the company went sour."

The Securities and Exchange Commission launched an investigation this year looking in part at the firm’s claims to potential investors interested in using the visa program, known as EB-5. The SEC has subpoenaed documents from GreenTech and a sister company, Gulf Coast Funds Management, which is led by Anthony Rodham, brother of Hillary Clinton. Both firms have said they are cooperating.

It is not known precisely what the SEC is investigating. But agency investigators have examined possible fraud among other participants in the visa program, in which foreign investors pay at least $500,000 to companies to gain access to permanent U.S. residency for themselves and their families.

GreenTech has also become a focal point in an increasingly vitriolic dispute within the Department of Homeland Security, where several career employees have raised concerns about favoritism shown to the firm and about whether there has been sufficient scrutiny of foreign nationals whose investments in GreenTech have entitled them to special immigrant visas.

The courtship of Chinese investors by McAuliffe and his partners has already proved fruitful — dozens of investors have contributed tens of millions of dollars to the effort. The March prospectus says that the company has received about $46 million from EB-5 investors, with a goal of $60 million.

The investments have led to little in the way of making cars. In Tunica County, Miss., where a mostly vacant lot sits where GreenTech plans to build a plant, local officials remain hopeful but a bit nervous."



http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/greentech-formula-has-made-big-profits-for-mcauliffe/2013/09/21/3c6e332c-2136-11e3-b73c-aab60bf735d0_story_1.html


Shall I go on?

The only joke is you morons going on about 18k that was donated back to charity while supporting TMac.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 11:42PM

Vexxxed Wrote:
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> gerry1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > gerry1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You do it once you can do it again. Lack of a
> > > moral compass has been proven.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Proven over & over again.
>
>
> GerBear...you forgot to change names before
> responding to yourself about your response that
> you'd already responded to.
>
> If you weren't such a dick, perhaps people that
> don't reside in your head might talk to you.
>
> Again.


Some dumbass responds to my name using my unregistered name and then another retard thinks its the revelation of the century. You retards really need to put more effort into expressing your shitty political positions. This that name this name whose name which name stupidity is very elementary.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: gerry1 ()
Date: September 27, 2013 11:56PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Vexxxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > gerry1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > gerry1 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > You do it once you can do it again. Lack of
> a
> > > > moral compass has been proven.
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Proven over & over again.
> >
> >
> > GerBear...you forgot to change names before
> > responding to yourself about your response that
> > you'd already responded to.
> >
> > If you weren't such a dick, perhaps people that
> > don't reside in your head might talk to you.
> >
> > Again.
>
>
> Some dumbass responds to my name using my
> unregistered name and then another retard thinks
> its the revelation of the century. You retards
> really need to put more effort into expressing
> your shitty political positions. This that name
> this name whose name which name stupidity is very
> elementary.

+1

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: Vexxxed ()
Date: September 28, 2013 06:21AM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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This that name
> this name whose name which name stupidity is very
> elementary.


Back away from the computer and dial 911, Ger.

I think you are having a stroke.

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Re: Virginia Gubernatorial Debate
Posted by: nexYf ()
Date: September 28, 2013 11:53AM

Vexxxed Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> This that name
> > this name whose name which name stupidity is
> very
> > elementary.
>
>
> Back away from the computer and dial 911, Ger.
>
> I think you are having a stroke.

He can be entertaining when he's drunk.

Which is every night.

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